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And that's being workshop still.
Yeah, still a little in process.
I mean, I said I was gonna fucking do a lot of editing and put all the things on Dropbox.
None of that happened because all we got been a jury duty.
So tell me about it.
As of now on this podcast, I'm still technically in the trial still going on.
So I can't say what the case is.
But forgot what we were talking about mechanics before this that I was about to tell you.
So you were the alternate.
How did that all right?
So I learned half of this stuff, most of the stuff when I went through this,
because you know, you see stuff on TV and all.
There's so many things that go on.
I'm like, oh, fuck.
And launch story.
I mean, the jury stuff, they picked 13 jurors in the beginning through a process where
they interview you.
So like, when I went there on Monday, the first day, you send this big room with like
100, probably around 100 people that have just gotten the summons.
And you send this big room and there'll be trials throughout the day, right?
And this huge fucking core house over by the highway.
And they'll just be like, you have a number associated with you.
And they'll just call your name over like the voice of God kind of thing.
Be like number 27.
And like, you just come out to a hallway and they take you all down to a courtroom.
And you don't know, kind of think they call around 30 at a time for this prezes.
And they just ask some questions, which is like, your name, your occupation, are you single?
Do you have, or single marriage?
Do you have kids?
Do you have prior jury service?
Do you know anyone in the criminal, what's the word, criminal defense system?
Law enforcement.
So cops, detectives, lawyers, anybody in that world.
And then what are your hobbies?
So then no.
Yeah, yeah.
And then those are like the base questions.
After those are all done for all of the people.
So like a one by one, you stand up and you speak in the courtroom, which is pretty
fucking intimidating.
Did you tell me of a podcast?
No, dude.
I told my like, play the drone.
So I was like, there's no way I'd be like, yeah, do a podcast for my friend.
Where we just talk about everything.
I guess, did you want to get selected?
We'll get into that.
Okay.
Because there's some weird, you can totally get out of it.
Can't you?
Uh, if you just like show some obvious bias, there's levels to it because it's you are
under oath.
So by you lying, if they find out, it could be perjury, which can be so.
So you don't want to lie.
But it's our hammer on the cross.
At the same time though, if they're like, what's your hobby?
You'd be like, skinning people, you know, an extreme example, but you could say something
to get out.
I, you know, I didn't want to fucking, it's really intimidating when you're there too.
You're in a form of just what it's so like, it is not to say Hollywood got exactly right,
but it's like the same exact kind of like, oh shit, this is American judicial system.
It's pretty fucking intimidating.
So you're in this room.
They ask you the base questions and they start asking questions like the lawyers, each
one, so the defendant and the prosecutor, which in criminal cases, you questions.
Yeah.
So they'll start because it's between they are picking the jury along with the judge
at the very end of all the interview and they go, this person's good, this person's
not for different reasons.
So like a snake draft like was a snake draft like one guy picks a guy's like, I want
this guy in the jury on the other guy.
Yeah.
Yeah, essentially because they both, they both, they want it to be fair, but they want
people that are going to like side with them, but the judges, the ultimate decider.
Okay.
So like, you know, if someone say you have a case of like, I don't know, assault and someone
in the jury is have had been a victim of assault, which though, they'll be like, we don't
want it.
They'll have a bias because they've been assaulted.
One way or another, how it ended up, they'll have a bias towards this thing.
So they tried to get everyone who's like, has no direct link to this thing because they're
seeing from as an objective objective place as possible.
Right.
So you think both lawyers would feel that way.
Like if there's like what are the guys who wants to convict, think there's a bias that
would make it more likely.
Yeah, you would probably want that person, but then there would be the judge interpreting
that and also like, there would be it's a cohesion thing.
It's not like, I want this guy and it's a person who's obviously going to support you.
They're like, oh, yeah, you could fucking have that guy.
The way I saw it and the way it presented itself when I was there seemed like the people
who, because there was 30 in the room and then I got picked with the other 12 and the
people that got picked, I was like, yeah, that makes sense.
It's like no one's too extreme.
Everyone probably feels strongly a little bit differently, but there's like, there's
like a neutrality to where we are.
It was pretty interesting, dude.
If anything, it brought a lot of like hope to believe in the system now.
Dude, I was literally, I'm sitting through this whole thing.
If there's one part of the government that's working, well, wow.
Yeah, dude.
I mean, that's the one everyone shits on.
I know, but being in it and don't get me wrong, it's one I've been to.
But I feel like we definitely see so much of the Hollywood like, look how they fucked
up version.
Yeah.
That like the base, the day to day is going so well.
Like, between the judge, between the lawyers, between the court, I think reporters, they
call it like everyone is so like in tune.
It's like the caliber of human you see in that room when people are presenting and
stuff and talking in the way.
It's like, whoa.
Dude, the judge first of all would be a great stand up.
He was like, he was cracking jokes the whole time.
Hell yeah.
And was just like the most, when certain people talk and it's just like a word Smith,
we're like, oh, fuck that guy's like, yeah.
I want to be his friends.
Probably a smart dude.
Oh, yeah.
Also, I feel like the tension's got to be so high in that room.
Any joke is just going to kill.
And don't get me wrong.
The jokes are all pretty much around like when we're entering and leaving them.
It's never like during the midst of the thing.
So yeah, they ask you those other questions to us to see like, would anybody have any
connections to this or blah, blah, blah, blah.
And like, you know, they're more, they're getting more fixated on like who they're going
to pick.
Okay.
And then after that whole process, they make you sit out in the hallway and they, the
judge and the two lawyers talking about themselves about like who we want to finalize.
Bring you back in and they just rail off names of who they want for the 13.
And then they're like, yep, all right, be the courtroom tomorrow, 915.
And yeah, and it just like kicks off.
And man was in a wild ride, dude.
I can't wait.
So it's where you can't say things.
I can't say anything about it.
But it's, yeah, no, fuck, I can't dude.
Because it, no, no, no.
No, it's hell yeah.
Yeah.
So judicial system.
But it was sick.
I mean, I wanted to be like, fuck, I have to go do this.
I have to miss work.
I have to wake up earlier than I do.
I have to go to a courthouse like off of a highway, which is a course of beautiful.
I mean, it's like, it looks like the, what's that Greek?
Is it called the Parthenon?
It's got the big pillars, you know?
Yeah, probably.
It's like in the movie Hercules and the cartoon one where he goes and sees Zeus.
Yeah.
It's, it looks like that, like the building, it's massive.
But it was fucking cool.
And also the people on the jury were all like, leaving today felt we really like a breakup.
Because I literally spent like summer camp.
It, right, like 40 hours with these people.
And we were all like, we're like, cool, shoot.
Yeah, dude, everyone's cool.
They all, every day someone would bring in more and more snacks.
We're all like feasting just bits like it was dude.
It was like military camaraderie when you're just in the trenches with these people.
And like, I'll say this because it's not that bad against like making a decision on something
that's really fucked up and like trying to figure the, you feel like you're a team
fighting against almost evil in these situations.
It's dude, we're feeling because I didn't expect to go home to be like, oh man, it's
really real.
Like once you actually get to it, it's the most real thing I've experienced.
You don't want to make any of the wrong decision.
Exactly.
I haven't experienced something that real in like, I can't even take it.
It sounds like a nice change of pace on us.
You take a week off work and it may not want to be a **** to an extent.
Because of how I realize how dull like numbing.
Remember we talked about this last podcast.
How numb I kind of felt.
Yeah, I have been feeling.
Yeah, that was heavy.
That experience flipped all the onset.
Wow.
Like you, this is what I kind of boiled down to today because I was trying to process
the sadness when I got home at like three o'clock.
I was like, dude, **** I truly felt like in that moment, you are delivered a purpose.
Like you have this thing that you are tasked to do and it really matters to a lot of people
in that room.
And I was like, **** dude, that just, and then thinking of why I don't have this, that
like what I'm currently doing, I see almost no purpose in.
Yeah.
Dude, this revelations today.
My man glaze right over that.
Yeah, we're just going to continue into the podcast.
But yeah, **** man.
Yeah, once it's done, I'll tell you and **** everybody.
Dude, it's **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****.
Alright, anyway, how was your **** week or weekend?
Not even close to as interesting as that.
When we got tacos, dude, how do you not remember?
Oh, **** Oh my God, dude, where we ****.
Not that personal.
It's me.
We're that **** back.
Yeah, let's talk about that.
This is not that big of a deal, I guess, but we went to **** and blue bet to career,
tackle.
Taco, rear, whatever.
Taco place month.
There in food giant, and we sit literally maybe five feet away from a table with 15 women.
and it's a bachelor at party.
All green hair.
Yeah, it was like St. Patty's Day.
That was actually St. Patty's Day.
Okay, so they were, they, they were,
they had two things going on.
Yeah, they were both bachelor ats
and it was St. Patty's Day, dressed in all the attire.
Halfway through what the first girl she came up
and she was like, you know,
because bachelor at parties do these,
like scavenger hunt event things
where you go ask people to like,
but fuck, you want a table or something?
And everyone's like, yeah, for sure.
But she was like,
do any of you have a condom in your wallet?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And I was like, no.
And now I think any of, none of us had a condom in our wallet
and just digging to that a little bit.
I haven't had a condom in my wallet since I was like,
since I thought it was cool.
Which sound silly.
You're not supposed to do that.
It's like too tight.
Oh, kind of just ruptured or something.
Yeah, I mean, I always had the situation where it would like,
it makes it so obvious in your wallet
and it's just weird when you take it out of your brain.
You see a condom and like, this is fucking strange.
So then you start raw-dogging for the rest of my life.
Worked out real well.
That's a joke, people.
Kind of.
So that happens.
And we're like, we just continue
and food talk is fun, great.
Then this black guy comes up,
don't know why his race matters,
but just, I don't know,
just to paint the picture.
What, see, he was black.
Yeah, he was definitely black.
I actually didn't remember.
Yeah, no, I mean, I think definitely black.
He just was black, but he comes up.
I don't know, I just want to.
Let's dig into a more.
Yeah, yeah.
How black he's definitely black.
The judicial system has changed me for sure.
He comes up and I remember if you got to the point right away,
but he was just like dancing around the topic of,
man, they want me to like do a strip tease
to one to the bachelor.
I think they want to lap dance for a lap dance.
That sounds more correct of what he said.
And he was like, at first I'm like, okay.
Like, where do we,
oh, I'm telling us this.
At first, I honestly thought,
which there was obviously no men singing at that table,
but like he was with them.
Good seam weird that he was coming up to us.
I didn't realize he wasn't with them
until we left the place.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Because I didn't realize it for a while
because I was like, if someone's coming to talk to us,
they're with them.
Right.
Why would a random person be like,
hey, man, what's going on?
So this guy proceeds to be like,
I got to do a lap dance for this girl.
So can you guys like cheer me on?
So my wife or girlfriend or something
thinks that I'm like with the boys.
I'm pretty sure that's what he said.
And it was like, how does that change the dynamic?
This is making less sense now that I look at it.
Yeah.
Dude, I was sitting there like and eventually
pulled the chair and was like, yeah, I'll go do it.
I was about to literally just stand my ground
and be like, no, wow.
What?
The other sounds so maybe not mean,
but the audacity of me being a random person
in a random situation be like,
I'm gonna go recruit three people who are enjoying dinner
to come cheer me on as I strip teas on this person.
Out of nowhere, out of nowhere, just fucking.
And then also be like, I'm the Packers DJ.
I'll get you guys Packers DJ.
Did you contact him?
No, I forgot.
Oh, dude.
I should, I have his number.
You need to.
I need to suit.
I need to follow this lead and see if this plays out
because if he does not, that's even worse.
If he's like, just doesn't respond
or is like, I'm not the Packers DJ.
That was what got me to do it.
I know.
I saw you perk up when you're like, oh fuck.
If he made that up, that's, that's off to him.
Because at that point he tricked us.
Yeah, I was just, once you guys went in,
I was like, I got support my boys and random boy.
Who's, okay, so this all happens.
Eventually, it says, yeah, I'll do it.
And then we all just kind of get up for,
I just want to get out of this.
He wouldn't take no.
I know we said no for a while.
He stood at the table for probably five to 10 minutes
being like, guys, we gotta do it.
I'm like, what are you doing?
He so didn't have to.
I've never in my life had someone come up and do that
while I'm eating with like, something to be like, guys,
listen, you really gotta help me out here.
And also, it's crazy to me that us being there
is gonna be the difference that saves him
in like this relationship idea.
But he was like, my wife or whatever is gonna freak out.
Was there a wife there?
Was he there by himself?
I don't know, because when we walked up,
there was some tall girl that he was talking to.
Okay.
That seemed like that was the whole situation so strange.
Yeah.
So anyway, just progress this fucking weird story.
Also for context, the table with these women
is like, it's a very long table packed into a tiny kind of space
where everyone's kind of backed up against the wall.
So there's like, we can't squeeze through
unless everyone kind of scoots in their chairs.
And not to be mean, this is just for description purposes.
Most of these women are pretty overweight,
like to the point where it's a tight fit.
It just wasn't tight fit all the way around.
It's just me, it's not a mean thing.
Just honest at this point, the beautiful women,
but they're just heavier.
And so we kind of squeezed through and stand awkwardly
against this brick wall.
And this, the bachelor ret sits in the corner,
maybe three feet away from us.
I don't even know what we're supposed to do at this point.
I don't know what I'm expecting from this guy
to do to this girl, but man, he just fucking dives in there.
As if he has been a stripper at some point.
I don't even know how I would attempt to lap dance someone,
but he knew what he was doing on some level.
He would be like fake dove at her,
like slid his whole front on her.
That's why I assumed he knew the people.
Because I feel like of all the people,
we were the most shocked at how hard he was going.
Yeah, I was like, they told us to cheer, right?
So we were pulling our hands.
We wanted to be woo people.
As soon as he did it, I was like,
I just stopped.
I was like, oh my god.
Then it shocked.
It was.
I didn't expect at all.
At all.
The level of strip T's he was about to,
my guess not strip T's the right lap dance.
Yeah.
It's not a strip.
Strip T's he would literally be taking off his clothes.
So that happens.
And we just go back to our table.
Antichlomact.
Don't talk to the guy after,
oh no, he came over again.
He came up with his reincarnation
for the potential Packers tickets.
So we'll see how that plays out.
I don't know how we got here.
I guess that was last Friday, right?
Yeah, that feels like, dude, with this whole court thing,
that feels like a year ago.
So much has happened.
Hey, you didn't even remember.
Dude, literally.
My mind's been fucking washed
with the judicial system law stuff.
But anyway, I'm a little light on the notes this week
because of everything else going on.
But we'll see where we left off.
I feel like we got plenty of leftover stuff.
Yeah, I'd there's some stuff.
Every once in a while, there's something down there.
If I find it interesting, but I have, we'll see.
Let's see, from last week,
I think we left off on the four day work week.
Yeah, Henry Ford.
Oh yeah.
Which, but once again, to your point,
progress it for his time
because the work week was like fucking what?
Monday through Saturday.
He went from six to five.
And then he was like, knock dude.
We're cutting back the Friday.
We were like, yes, finally.
And now we're bitchin' it out.
But it wasn't even for the people.
It was for productivity.
He wasn't like, he's like, people are more productive.
Right.
But how do you get that?
That's the thing.
I think they're outpuched.
I think he just tried it.
I guess, yeah, I guess it did.
Makes sense because otherwise,
probably other companies would keep doing the other way.
If it was more productive,
like there was no human rights involved
with that decision, I imagine.
If it's coming from a business man.
Yeah, I don't think it was a strictly business decision.
Which, there's a part of me that I don't know if I agree
with it if like,
because there's a bill in Congress now
for the four day work week.
Like they're pushing it as a law,
which the five day one is not law.
But then, okay, let me walk back a little bit
because I looked into what that exactly means
and it's just relative to overtime.
So like places would still have 40 hour work weeks,
but those extra eight hours would be overtime hours.
So I'm gonna get paid more for doing more.
I just don't know what a law like that would do
because a lot of the time stuff like that happens,
it forces companies that can't afford to do that
into places that they'll just go out of business
or they'll have to hire less people
and then the business like, I don't know.
I feel like anything forcing business like that
tends to not work out too well.
What about people who don't get overtime?
Is it just changing nothing for them?
That's a good point.
Like salary people.
Yeah, what do we do?
We just get fucked by the system.
Like we usually do white men.
I can goddamn.
How are we gonna fucking get back from this one?
It's tough out there.
No, I mean, I'd love a four day work week.
That'd be awesome.
Yeah, I know, but at the same time,
it would be cool to have a three day week and permanently.
Oh, dude.
I can't even imagine a point counter to that.
That you would be like, yeah, we should keep the five day.
I mean, from the business side, I can see.
How?
You know.
Can I start a business?
No, I'm just saying like, if I'm a business,
I'd be like four day work week.
You're obviously a businessman.
That's, in my head, it's just more hours worked.
I understand there's a threshold of like,
the Henry Ford's point.
It's probably people who follow the heart.
Yeah, but I feel like we talked about this point last week.
I don't wanna butcher anymore.
We're just kind of floating around.
Let's move on to the next thing.
I hold up.
I looked up at the Arkansas child labor laws.
How'd that go?
It wasn't as bad as it sounded.
Okay.
It's just hit me with it.
You still under 14, you can't work.
Oh, so it's for 14 and 15 year olds.
Okay, specifically.
So it's like that's not the checking of their permit
or whatever is that.
Strungent, I guess.
Gotcha.
So that phrase, theology sounds a little sketchy.
Like the checking of their workers permit.
Yeah, the way they phrased it was,
there's less hoops to jump through it to work
as a 14 or 15 year old.
Right.
Which means they won't check your permit.
So I guess a younger kid could work.
Yeah.
It's sound, yeah.
It's weird because it's like,
I don't wanna tell people they can't work,
but it's like when you're 14,
I just see people using it as like,
I can use my kid to work.
Or like not saying that all people are bad,
but I feel like most money when it's made by teenagers
is might be taken by their parents,
especially at that age.
If you're 14.
Yeah, well, that made me think like,
what's going on in Arkansas?
Do they need like all hands on deck?
Like what's, I mean, it's a south.
It's just, stuff is weird a lot.
Not that categorized half of the nation.
But things are very different.
Have you spent any time in the south?
Like, per long periods of time.
No, I've never lived down there.
I've, I've took in,
I've gone to Kentucky for like half of a month
with a girlfriend a long time ago.
They had her family knew these people down there that,
you know, they're very wealthy.
They had this barbecue joint.
It was a blast, but it's like,
things are just very different.
Everything's slower.
Yeah.
Not like slower, like bad slower,
but like it moves at a pace.
They're just more relaxed.
Yeah, like nothing's a rush.
Yeah.
Which I could see how they'd be really frustrating
from a business perspective,
but like being there and being on a vacation,
it was like, nice dude.
We're just chilling in this mansion.
Like, I can tuck you in and barbecue every fucking day.
But it's, it's a different kind of life.
So when things like the child labor law thing happens,
it's just, it feels contextual to like a different place,
you know, where here it's like, what the fuck?
Yeah.
It's like, you're gonna put kids to fucking work.
When I'm out there, it's probably, who knows?
It's all speculation on my point.
Fun war that I like to use a lot now
because of the lawyer thing or the jury duty.
But yeah, it maybe it's okay down there,
but also it seems we're gonna say it's okay.
Let's just take a sweep.
It's probably okay.
It's probably fine.
We're good to know that it's not, I mean, once again,
I looked at, when I looked it up,
the first thing I said was no one under,
like working under 14 is still illegal.
Okay.
Gotcha.
Well, that's good because I definitely felt victim to that.
I saw the pictures of me signing the thing
and the kids next to them, I was like, fuck man.
Well, I had to look at it because I've,
I mean, you told me, I've told so many people since then.
And people started asking me questions.
Yeah.
It's good to back up your stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sick.
I mean, it's, this is kind of a tangent,
but do you want kids at some point?
I like the idea of it.
Think so.
You're like, this is a deeply personal question.
Yeah, yeah.
It's personal time.
Yeah.
All right, segment personal time.
I've had so many situations where I go hell no
and then I'll see,
like we'll have conversations like the Hans Zimmer
father, son, relationship.
Like you just find so many instances of people's inspiration
that they drew or like you see the connection
between father's son or mother or daughter,
vice versa, switching the genders of whatever things.
And it is beautiful.
It is.
Yeah.
And then you also hear of like,
you'll never love something as much as you love your child.
And it seems almost a waste to live this life
and not feel that thing.
If life can offer that to just not do that.
I feel everyone, I know with kids
and I've just hearing people talk about kids,
I feel like everyone says that is what living is.
Right.
That is the point.
Yeah, but then right now it sounds horrible.
Right.
But it's like when's the good time to do it?
I don't want to be an old dad.
There's no good time to do it.
And then I could play with my kid.
To be 70 when he got to high school, that sounds brutal.
Yeah, you're like falling apart in the kids.
They're all football with me.
You're like, shut up.
My ankle's my arthritis.
But now being a teacher, you see a lot of the,
so there's the romantic part that we're talking about it.
Right.
We're talking about this beautiful love thing.
Then you see the inner workings of like,
because the school I worked at
from pre K123 kindergarten all the way up to eighth.
So you're seeing all these kids all the time,
taught four through six, then seven through eighth.
And being with kids at least eight hours a day,
it's rough, man.
I don't even take care of them at home,
kind of situation, but just, right.
And don't get me wrong.
I'm maintaining multiple.
It'd be different if I had my own kid.
As opposed to like 20 kids I have to manage.
With no instincts.
Oh my chest.
You love them.
Yeah, and you have no like real control over them
because they're not your kid.
Like you can tell them, hey, don't do that.
But, like, you know, you send them to the principals.
Like it's just, were you a cool teacher?
Like did kids want to have you?
I liked to think so.
Because I was also like the only guy and young person.
And like, I don't know.
I'd like to think I'd provide a lot of fun
in terms of like lectures and stuff like that.
My grade school, there was one dude.
Yeah, teacher, everyone wanted to be with him.
Yeah, it's different.
Not to say men and women are so different,
but it's like there's a, there's different ways of teaching,
but then there's different energies that like,
male and female kind of brain.
I mean, I was, I don't know how many times
I got told to be quiet because I was being too loud
in my lessons.
So, but kids left like this fucking is a blast.
And there's also like me being younger,
being more tech.
Where are you so loud?
I just get excited during lectures,
like talking about stuff and imitating characters
and the kids fucking they have a blast.
You're just doing stand.
Literally dude.
If I could fucking have some video of me teaching,
I would guarantee you like, oh nice.
Like that's, it could be funny.
But like also being younger,
it was more tech forward than most of the teachers
so like doing stuff in Minecraft.
Well, the kids love Minecraft.
We build ancient civilizations and stuff
for history class.
It's like build Rome and build ancient China.
They've, you know, I knew what the kids were on.
That's beautiful.
Yeah, I would.
It was a good kid.
It was good, but how do we go on this teacher topic?
Don't remember.
Fuck.
Oh, having kids, right?
So I see the part.
So everything's finding dandy teaching lectures,
but you see like once you have that kid,
and this is super cliche to say
because everyone says that there's no time off.
You're literally like that.
It's your life.
For the rest of your life,
that's the thing you need to pay attention to.
And it's also, it's not just 18 years.
Like is, no, yeah, there's the rest of your life.
Yeah.
It's like how many kids fucking don't,
I mean, they go to college and shit like that,
but we're not real adults.
I don't feel until like at least,
at least 25, a little like,
where you can probably function the world.
Oh, yeah.
You know?
And then like, I'm about to turn 30.
And I feel like I'm just starting to like,
okay, I have enough hold to like start doing things
other than trying to get my hold in life.
Like I finally blast onto career I want.
I'm kind of comfortable in terms of,
I'm not worrying about my next paycheck.
Like I can start to do stuff that's more like,
what do I want to do?
And especially on the terms of the whole purpose thing
with the jury duty of like,
man, I need to figure something out quick
because I can't keep feeling this way.
It's not so dark when I say that.
Everything's fine.
But it's a good shit.
It's good shit.
Keep going.
But when you feel something that's,
when you feel the thing,
I feel like you're supposed to feel like the purposefulness
and in a jury situation,
it would be nice to feel that a lot more.
It would nice to be like wake up and just feel that way.
Yeah, I feel like I can do something to make a difference.
I feel like that sounds corny,
but like I feel like the weight of what I do,
to me it doesn't mean that much.
Like I love, I like the, I don't know,
what's the word for it?
Like the thoughtfulness it requires to do my job.
Like I have to think through problems.
I like that.
But there's no part of me that's like, man,
I can't, like this matters.
I feel like there's, yeah, there's two parts to it.
Cause one is just literally liking the work.
Yeah, right, right.
No matter what the impact is.
And then, you know, there's the other part
that you talk about.
But I like, yeah,
I'd be super interesting to see like,
I guarantee if they didn't experiment
of how many people find purpose in their job,
it's probably some abysmal low percentage.
Like people find, yeah, I'm like literally like,
I am so attached to this with my like spirit.
Let's call it, or like this is me representing
what I want to do through a job,
which at the same time it doesn't have to be your job
that does that.
But like the people who are, you know,
working for charities or nonprofits
that are like pushing a movement in a direction
that's doing something they want to help you.
I don't fucking know.
But I need to find that thing.
Let's find a purpose, dude.
Starts as being like lawyers.
I mean, sounds so silly, but there's definitely a part
where like, I'll just become a judge.
Yeah.
Like, dude, it's to be,
and maybe it's a power thing too,
because as a juror, you're like,
you're deciding for the better good.
Like you're making decisions about how this person
to you, there's you get nothing out of it.
Exactly.
And there's, but you could end this entire person's life.
Potentially.
That probably gave away a little stuff about.
It's true.
All right, what's coming out later?
So it's fine.
Nice.
Come on to the next topic.
No, you can't get off this one.
Okay.
How do this start?
Child labor laws.
Yeah, and then we got into personal time about.
So do you want kids?
Oh, yeah, I didn't need an answer that question now.
I just kind of danced around.
Yeah, you did.
And then we've done some next dance around it, dude.
I see you.
Yeah, fuck you.
I don't know.
Like, I feel like I'm gonna know,
and it's gonna be too late, but I don't want to just.
You know, that's heavy.
Yeah, but at the same time, don't want to jump the gun.
And then be like, I don't, I don't want any of this.
It's not something you want to force.
Exactly.
So it's right now, I think I'm a no.
Yeah, but it's fucked, because it's, I mean, I would never just,
like I would have to be with someone.
Oh, yeah, that I like and want to spend my life with.
It's not, but we'll do it a lot.
No, people are like, I want a kid.
I'm gonna get a donor or a surrogate.
Oh, I was about to side with you and say like most people,
that's logical.
Yeah.
Most people don't do that.
Yeah, I guess on the sides of like,
a lot of people don't like each other and decide they're gonna have a kid.
Right.
And then there's a surrogate side of like raising a kid by yourself,
which sounds whole like extremely difficult.
Perhaps the people who do it, but yeah, no, I don't know.
Right now, no, for sure.
All right.
But if I'm 40 and I don't like what I'm not a fucking,
what's the word doctor who knows enough about,
let's just say doctor, but like women as they get older,
the potential for birth stuff to go wrong is kept pretty early.
Like 35 to 40 is a dangerous range to start having kids or a woman.
Yeah, I think that number is going up a little bit.
Science we, yeah.
Science.
Well, I know that like a lot of the worries,
just genetic defects.
So I don't know if it's not like complications of the woman's health.
It's more like as you get older,
the chances of the baby having stuff wrong with it is just higher.
Okay.
But to your point, science could have changed.
I just know that like that if I women,
much more of a timer than with you.
Right.
And women get in this panic mode now,
what the age range we're in to be like,
gotta have a kid if I want to have one now.
Otherwise, I may not have it or I may have one that's,
you know, disabled, disabled people are great.
But I think if, you know,
you don't want to set yourself,
you're a kid up for a hard life.
If they had, if you had the choice, you know,
you don't want to like be like,
oh yeah, I have a 90% chance of this kid having some severe disability.
Why would you do that to someone?
Yeah.
Not to say that people living with those disabilities can have a good life.
It's just, I would think most people would choose that.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Got dark.
That's what always does.
Wait, I think we've talked about this many times,
but the name might change to like dark real problems.
Really?
I like that one.
Real problems.
What's funnier?
It has to be the opposite of what we actually talk about.
So I don't know if we can talk about more fake problems or real problems.
I don't know, man.
It feels like we always end up in real problems.
To do the last last time to like,
let's end on a happy note.
And we got, it was the darkest part of the body.
Yeah, the human traffic and stuff.
I don't even remember that part.
Yeah.
It was, I don't even know.
We talked about, I was talking about the human traffic in different places where it's legal.
We're prostitution's legal.
Oh, God.
And we just, that was the way we ended the last one.
But then we also, no, we talked for like another unexpected hour.
We're like, we're not record any of this.
Right.
Which, we can take out a lot of crazy stuff.
We've got our record.
Yeah.
So anyway.
All right.
Jowl labor stuff.
Moving on.
I'm not going to add it.
Okay.
This is so random.
But you know, like, I guess I think about it more with like battery packs when you buy
batteries.
Okay.
And they come in that plastic that's like so hard to open.
Why do they do that?
Dude, how many, I've gotten cut by that plastic more times than paper.
I didn't even, is that the point of it?
Yeah.
Okay.
Sorry.
I didn't know you were going that way.
Yeah.
No, it's, it's a weird, it's a weird random.
Well, there's, there's a lot of things that are packaged like that.
I can't think of any of the samples, but it, I don't know.
I mean, batteries are kind of dangerous, maybe.
Well, they started making it.
There's, there's certain stuff that they just put in that hard plastic.
And it's like, maybe it is the chemical stuff and it can like spill.
I bet there's a rating that says this needs to be packaged.
It does degree.
I take that back.
I literally have a giant package of batteries downstairs that's all double is, has a paper
backing.
So you can just rip the back.
But those ones I'm talking about is like, you know, that thick, ass plastic that you
need scissors.
Yeah.
Like you can't get into the pack or a knife.
But so many Christmas mornings where I've been opening a toy when I'm like nine years
old and have cut myself or I can't open it and it just leads to frustration and I don't
know, this is for sure a fake problem.
Anyway, there we go.
But whoever's making also the waste, man, I've seen it where they'll have two batteries
and this giant like six by six plastic packaging.
Now, what are you guys trying to do?
Either make it smaller or just use something else.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know what I was expecting from this.
Is this the battle we want to fight?
There's a lot of battles we can fight.
This is we're going to find our purpose.
Yeah.
This is taking down the hard plastic corporations.
Let's shrink the plastic island in the ocean.
Dude, this is random.
I need to write this or maybe I did write this down.
But there's a giant blob.
They said blob and whatever I was reading, blob of seaweed that's twice the width of the
United States heading for the Gulf of Florida right now.
It's moving?
Yeah.
Similar to how the plastic is floating.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
It's not alive.
I had time.
Well, I mean, it could be a lot.
No, it's like detached.
It's got to be.
But yeah, it's like, where is it headed?
The Gulf of Florida.
Oh, thank God.
Relan locked.
Yeah.
But what?
I read a little bit.
If it's not what happens when it gets here.
Well, that's the thing.
It can cause just like mass death of what of secretures because it's just getting stuck
in it.
Okay.
But then like in the ocean, it can be good because stuff feeds on it.
But twice the width of the United States.
You know, fucking big bad is which North South or East West with?
They would, oh, well, I guess if you're looking at a map, you have to turn it to make it
with at that point, right?
Because height would be when you're looking at it straight.
I don't know.
How are you looking?
You wouldn't be looking at a map sideways.
Yeah.
So with you mean East West?
Yeah.
Why would it be both?
That's why I beg her.
I don't know how you're looking at the contrary.
What?
I mean, if you're looking at a map, that's right.
I just got a hot sign.
I mean, it's, I mean, take it a moment.
I think of width as the shorter of width and height.
How wide is it?
Hold on.
We got length too.
That's another word.
Yeah, but length.
I guess, sorry.
Height is only used in three dimensional things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
So height's out.
I meant to say length.
So length.
Okay.
In the situation, I would have had you if you said length.
Width really fucked me up.
I thought you were talking to yourself.
Yeah.
Wait.
So not fuck, I'm rethinking what I said.
I said it's two times the width of the United States, which would be from East to West.
Length would run from south, north to south.
Okay.
I inherently would have thought the opposite.
Really.
Not, but now I'm thinking in my head, what, what do you, this is great.
This is not where I expected to go with this, but this is interesting.
What would make, isn't this a geometry question at this point?
What makes length length and what makes width width?
Is it just the length of the things?
It's usually, I mean, it would usually be, if you have a rectangle, it would be a shorter
length.
Longer one would be the length.
So, so I'm thinking of the country as a rectangle, north south would be the width.
Okay.
I think we agree on the same thing.
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's move on.
I don't know.
I don't know why it seemed like we weren't talking about the same thing, but we were.
It sounds like a shit ton of seaweed is about to hit the contrary.
Yeah.
Is my take away?
Yeah.
A lot.
And apparently, with the, have you experienced what do they call it?
Red sea, I think, where it's like salty one.
It's salty one that you can, that's the, that's the, that's the, never.
No, this is, it's red tide, my bad.
Red tide, yeah.
It's literally a bunch of shit fucking, I don't know why it dies.
It's like something with the acidity in the water.
But like, thousands of fish die and get washed up and the smell.
I've smelted in the floor at a one time.
Oh my god.
It is, if anything smells like a rotting corpse, it's probably that.
And it's like, city wide.
Because there's so much of it.
And apparently that seaweed is going to cause red tide for miles and miles and miles and
miles.
So like the whole, I think we'll smell it up here.
I hope to cut the major stink that just creeps its way up to the Midwest.
That sounds like it could kill someone just from how bad it smells.
Well, yeah, I mean, you think about, when you're smelling shit like that, it's got to
be like, methane, like chemicals that aren't good for you.
It's, if you're breathing that in all day, just like degrading corpse fumes, probably
not good for you.
Just hope.
Yeah.
What's that happening?
I don't know when, but it's approaching.
Okay.
The alarms are raised that the seaweed is approaching.
Very lately in the back of my hood.
Until it happens.
Like Ohio train seaweed.
Yeah.
What happened with the train?
I don't know.
I think we just got back now.
Did I tell you, but there was an update.
The CEO of Norfolk, the company that owned the train and, you know, was transporting
shit or didn't own the train, the stuff on the train, whatever, the product that fell.
As he was testifying court about the thing, another train of theirs, derailed.
Yeah.
And dropped some shit.
I don't know what happened.
Well, he was in court while he was testifying.
Do they bring that evidence in life?
I don't know.
Bring that.
I was like, oh, fuck.
What do you, you would think they would just, you just quit at that point as CEO?
Yeah.
CEOs don't quit, dude.
They want money.
Dude, they quit all the time.
They literally give them like these crazy severance packages of like, we're going to
give you 30 million dollars for the rest of your life.
You go over here and they just find some new big wig.
It happens so often in a parachute.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pretty sick deal.
I'd like to be CEO one day of anything.
Dude, this is fucking so cool.
If you kind of want to be a lawyer, it'd be pretty sweet.
But the fucking work to get there, man, it's like I'd have to do four years of law school.
I could be like Frank Abbott now, just pass the bar.
That's true.
Just do it.
You know that guy, that's the catch me if I can guy, right?
You know, he made up like most of that story.
It came out recently.
Did he?
Like very recently.
That he was like most of that.
He's like, yeah, most of it didn't happen.
Isn't that silly condes all?
Yeah, which is kind of awesome.
He's the con man.
Well, so what did he do?
I thought that story when he became a doctor.
He was a pilot.
We'll have to touch on it next time because I didn't dig into it.
But I remember reading like it came out that that story.
Most of it's been falsified.
Damn.
Yeah, which sucks.
It's a crazy awesome story.
Yeah, dude, that's how the movie sucks.
Before we make these claims, you probably take it at the end stop.
Because it could be like, I don't know.
He didn't do one or two things, but the headline.
I mean, it seemed just like the child labor one.
If that movie is fiction, that's the stupidest movie I've ever seen.
The movie is only cool because it's true.
Right.
Yeah, without it, it's like, oh, guys, it's like, oh, you didn't make it.
It's a cool story.
Yeah.
It was a superhero.
You just gave him super powers.
Yeah.
But to your point,
passing the bar without going to law school, I wonder how easy that is to do with the wealth of information.
I hope you did that.
Do you think you did that?
I don't know.
Tell me who did that.
I'm not going to promise you anything, man.
I don't want to break your heart.
But like, isn't the LSAT is the bar, right?
I don't know.
Or is that the, I think that's maybe that's the law schooled mission exam.
I think the bar is the thing you take at the end.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because they have the MCAT for medical LSAT for law.
But yeah, that'd be fucking cool though.
If you just learned enough to where you could just go.
Good.
Skip off law school.
It's probably super easy.
Even if you could just pass the bar, there's no way you could just be confident.
No.
Because in those years of law school, you're like going to court.
Yeah.
You're like shadowing lawyers doing what do they call it?
Like theater.
Not like theater.
Like, oh my god, what's the like a play case?
Like it's, it's all going on to write a school room.
You have a defendant.
The other person has a, you know, you're either a prosecutor.
They're kind of lawyer.
And you just go through those motions.
Just like a student would do clinical school.
Yeah, that's based on past trials.
Or are you saying they're real?
They're fake.
They're fake.
But they got to try based on real.
Yeah.
Either new stuff that's come about old trials, all stuff.
But similar to medical students and clinical stuff,
they do practical stuff.
It's the same fucking thing.
To my knowledge.
Anyway, it sounds like you know a lot about it too.
I mean, that's about it.
So, one of them, yeah.
All right.
I remember what we were talking about.
Oh, talk about it.
See what it is.
Talk about it.
We covered that.
No, for now.
Oh, yeah, we talked about the terrorist guy last week.
We got brutally tortured by the CIA.
Oh, yeah.
We turned himself in.
Then we talked about insulin.
Yeah.
It was a random story that happened a while ago.
Don't know if it's that funny.
But there's this grocery delivery.
I've called Instacart.
I think it's like local to Wisconsin.
Or maybe it's everywhere.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
We both used to get grocery delivery through them all the time.
And they started just to fuck stuff up.
Because essentially it's like door dash where they just have a person
doing your grocery shopping.
But now like a lot of grocery stores will do that in-house.
Like Whole Foods will be through Amazon.
So like it's one of their people doing the whole thing.
And then someone gets assigned to the...
So someone picks it out from the store
and then a random person drives it to you.
As opposed to Instacart,
that person goes to the store, grabs all your stuff.
And then leaves.
Okay.
So one time I had stopped using it
because I kept fucking my shit up.
Used it sparingly.
And then one time,
you know,
put like five oranges, five apples,
and like some other fruit.
And either the guy or the store fucked up,
they gave us like hundreds of fruit.
Bags and bags and bags of fruit.
Hell yeah.
It was like lined the back room over there.
It was so fucking crazy.
I don't know why I thought of this,
but it was so weird.
Did you go through all of it?
Yes, slowly.
But it went bad before you go through.
It was just gonna so much.
Yeah.
It was literally,
it had to be at least a hundred apples and a hundred oranges.
So like extra zero on there.
Yeah.
It was fucking,
I don't even know what happened.
But I think the guy was like,
obviously he knew we fucked.
Because they just misread it or something.
Yeah.
And it was just,
but he paid the same price for,
that's awesome.
Thousands of fruits.
Nice when you just get away with something like that.
Yeah,
where the system just kind of like signs off,
just like the bank stuff we're talking about,
where like people get random amounts of money
going to the bank.
I wish that was that way.
But did the best time,
one time I ordered a pizza.
Yeah.
I think it was dominoes.
And I fell asleep.
And they tried to deliver it and they couldn't
because I was sleeping.
Yeah.
And the next day I woke up to an email of them
apologizing that they didn't deliver my pizza
and they gave me a free pizza.
Here's your extra pizza.
It's an asshole.
Yeah.
Yeah, too.
It's a good, it's nice when that stuff works out.
It really makes you a question.
The carmic movement of the universe sometimes.
How often do you feel like,
okay, sorry, that's a big question.
But how often when you're doing a good deed,
do you feel like good things kind of happen?
I don't, that's maybe not the right way to phrase that.
But
when you're being good,
less bad things seem to happen,
I should say.
To you?
Yeah, I don't know.
Like the inner it puts,
it might be more of just you now perceive the day as being better.
Like you're in a better mood,
so you see it as good.
Right.
But it's whenever I have instances like that,
like the pizza thing where I'm an asshole and something goes right.
I'm like, what?
I thought that's not how this is supposed to work.
Yeah.
So I was like mad at myself for making a guy come out here
and not deliver the pizza and not getting a pizza and wasting money.
And then I just got a free pizza out of it.
Yeah, I think they refunded me and gave me a free pizza.
It's once again, it's weird in the sige.
I mean, it's good that you feel that way and not like hell yet.
Like entirely.
I mean, there's a fact that way.
It's a part of you definitely.
I got a way.
Dude, you could, I just, I want to know if I can keep doing that.
Just keep getting all three.
I mean, if you switch pizza companies,
yeah, yeah, you could however many pizza companies are in your location.
You could probably do that if you really wanted to calm the system.
Dude, that was like years ago.
I bet I could do it again with the same company.
Oh, yeah, dude, you could probably do it multiple times
across a span of three months.
No one would know.
Yeah, like dude, Amazon's probably the craziest example, but
I've gotten shit shipped to me and then been like,
I'm going to return this and hit the refund button
and then just never return it because I'm lazy.
Not of like, okay.
Not because I wanted to con them.
I just like, I didn't want to go to coals and drop off this thing
and they just give you the money back.
I never say anything ever again.
Yeah.
Dude, they're, they're amazing.
Or if I, I'll have like a missing package.
Like I didn't get it yet.
And they're like, okay, just, just, just, there's another one.
They literally sent me a Dyson vacuum.
The animal too.
500 fucking dollars.
It's sitting downstairs in my closet.
I was like, I haven't forgot what happened, but like the box was broken.
I was like, hey, the box was broken.
Didn't even matter.
They just gave me all the money back.
$500.
That's how much money they have.
Yeah, I mean, they don't have to get so much.
But it's nuts.
I mean, and that, but that makes me want to buy from them more.
True.
That's true.
It is the best customer experience.
Oh, yeah, fuck.
They're feeding Bezos too.
They're gonna take everything.
Yeah.
Fuck.
That's dark.
Dude, I have the same socks and fucking black actually.
Same like Haines, blue X thing, whatever the fuck is on the bottom.
That's very easy.
This is important for the fans.
You didn't comment on my, I had Superman socks on last time.
Well, this one's like in my fucking face.
So, I don't know, I think both of them were probably down last time.
You don't fuck remember.
Yeah.
Dude, you've been in the head so many times.
There's no way.
You remember what sucks.
You couldn't even remember my apartment number, dude.
My reality is like, shutter island.
I just don't know what's going on.
Talk about fucking hell on earth.
I was like, going through that.
I mean, how much of a cool support system does he have
for this entire thing to happen around him?
Just having a dope mark rough below.
That's cheering for you.
And then they're like, I still fucking crazy.
Someone could be that for me.
Yeah, I wouldn't even know.
It could be you.
Could be.
I just started this podcast, like keep you in a safe space for a couple hours on a day.
Make a wish, pop.
All your other handlers are busy at this time.
This is literally daycare for me, dude.
I just cast man.
Be great, man.
You'll be so safe.
I mean, I mean, having fun.
Like, did you release a fucking account?
I'm going to.
Oh my God.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Next week, dude.
Okay.
That's my slow play.
Oh God.
I'll be out there eventually.
Like, dude, what are you worried about?
No one's there going to come out.
It's ever going to hear that.
Say whatever you want.
Fuck.
I mean, God damn is that a self-fulfilling prophecy.
If I remember what I'm about, this has been going.
But yeah, yeah, we'll push him out.
We'll push him out.
Anyway,
God fuck with me.
That's okay, man.
You're sane.
You're a sane person.
And you're saying on your sane couch.
That's what my hallucinations tell him.
Yes, right.
All right, let's get into some heavy stuff.
It's all just awful.
Dude, I forgot what you were saying.
It was some comedian.
But if you got
an only fans notification,
anytime someone you knew from high school got an only fans.
It's interesting.
Are you saying that happens?
No, no, no.
This is like a hypothetical.
Hypothetic school.
Dude, that basically happened to me once.
I explained.
Just someone I knew in college, all of a sudden.
Okay.
I just got followed on Instagram as a count.
Okay.
And it was like clearly porn.
Like they were doing porn.
And it was this person.
It was the person.
Oh, that's next level.
It was literally notification saying
this person has an only fans account.
Whoa.
Did you go look?
I tried.
I tried.
What do you mean?
What happened?
You have to pay for only fans.
Right.
Fuck.
There's definitely some, I mean, this,
it's not even almost sexual.
But there's some people I'd be like,
I want to just see what their boobs look like.
You know?
Like from high school,
we're like, what do those look like?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You're curious.
It'd be interesting.
I think there's a there's a money pit there.
I'm like,
if someone could create that second hand thing
that would attach to Facebook and then just be like,
who in this date range from this time of your life
now has an only fans account.
They do that shit with like dating apps.
Like, well, they just like,
you got my mind.
It gives you a recap of the year.
Just how many people and these people
and they're like, yeah, they know how to have an only fans.
Can be done.
The amount of money that you can make on only fans is just good.
Well, yeah, there was breaking down the numbers
recently with that, uh,
that bad baby girl who was like,
catch me outside.
She was on Dr.
Phyllis.
That girl made like 50 million in one year.
Oh my god.
And like, yeah, she makes like
more than, I don't know,
the top people are making like a million a month
doing that.
And it's just like that bad baby girl apparently.
I've never been on only fans,
but she like doesn't, it's not porn.
It's like maybe some like boob.
Yeah, because you can do anything.
You can do anything.
Right.
You can just be on there.
Most of it's sex stuff.
Yeah.
But there's people making millions that are literally doing nothing.
It's like,
you're just doing it for one year.
And then be done with the set for life.
Yeah, just show my bottle one time.
And then be like millions.
How much money you think we could make?
We're probably not a lot.
There's probably so many.
Well, I don't know.
I feel like there's just thousands of people
that would just watch a bottle.
For video image.
It's insane.
You can just put anything
and people will watch it.
People will pay for it.
True.
And there's a lot of horny dudes out there.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like
feet picks.
That's a big thing.
True.
I don't get it.
I got such hairy feet, dude.
I don't know if it's sock.
I've talked about this.
I'd have to like shape my feet
and do something to them.
Someone's probably into that.
A lot of people are probably into that.
Well, then it comes to the question.
Do you want to?
Are you going to take the dive?
Because you put a lot on the line.
The second you put together
an only fans account.
The second you're like,
I now have an account associated with my name.
I guess I could just use Nailie's.
But if you have your face and thing,
you're kind of screwed.
Yeah.
I mean, there was that initially when only fans started,
there was like a wave of people losing their jobs.
Women more specifically.
Yeah, because they'd be a teacher.
I could see.
But then they'd have like,
and then their teacher especially feels like one word
that would not work out.
It's dicey.
Because it's like,
if you're a fourth, like, I guess,
well, I shouldn't say it depends on the age
because it's still kind of weird,
but should it met?
Well,
fuck, I'm going in circles on this.
But if you're a company,
and you hire somebody,
and they have kind of a representation of themself
that you're like, I don't want that to be
representing my company,
them fucking their butt online.
Like posting it, I can see that.
So, but at the same time, I'm like,
it's a side hustle, dude.
Let them make,
they make $30,000 a year's teachers.
Yeah.
Let them make, they can't make ends meet,
let them show their butts,
make millions of dollars.
Who's to say they can't do that?
It's weird.
Because schooling system,
the majority's government run,
but also still a job.
So, I guess the end of the story is,
gonna try only fans.
And see how much I make.
I'm gonna have like one subscriber
who pays me five bucks a month.
That's good to me.
Just like, who's this one guy?
XXX69.
Man, it keeps giving me five bucks a month,
and I'm just showing,
butthole, all the fucking time.
I'm talking to God.
Well, yeah.
So, I don't know.
It is wild to see the top performers
on that they're making like,
hundreds of millions of dollars
of the course of four years.
I feel like even not the top performers
are still pulling in.
Yeah, hundreds of thousands.
Yeah, hundreds of thousands.
Yeah, man, there's something there,
but I don't know.
I've been this conversation funny enough,
a lot of times with a lot of people.
Because people see the numbers of that.
They're like,
hot, what?
Like, I'm working my ass off at a day to day job,
and people are like showing their feet
and making way more than I make.
So I,
I'm not sure that much demand.
There's just so many people.
There's just so many people out there.
Right.
Someone proposed an idea that
Congress, any senator, any politician,
I should say, but they're talking about Congress
specifically, should just wear jackets like they wear
in NASCAR, or they have all the sponsorships.
Just like literally you see
who they're taking money from.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Isn't that awesome?
Yeah.
It'd be so cool, but there'd probably be too many
on everyone's channel.
But it could make out.
It'd be so small.
It'd be like poor sizes to the amount of money they pull in.
Damn.
I wish they were just, that should be law.
It'd be awesome.
Taking the silliness out of it,
even just having like whenever they're talking,
there's a screen that just shows like,
they've taken money from all of these places.
I feel like it's just fair.
Like that does so.
Is that public information?
I don't know.
I feel like it has some of it as good.
There's obviously under the table stuff.
Yeah.
It's weird because walking the
Milwaukee Courthouse downtown
in the line to the metal detectors,
there's literally a sign that's like
you have to be a reg, like the process
and the no-nose of lobbying.
Of like, you can't show up here
unless you're a registered lobbyist.
And like, if you don't, here's what happens to you.
Which, think about the corruption that happens there
that you have to register as a lobbyist
to like make it known that I am trying to do.
Yeah.
And then also there's a separating wall
to who can't be a lobbyist.
Okay.
But seeing that was like,
why do we have this?
The fact that this isn't a fucking courthouse is like,
the man who's going to come in here
to bribe essentially politicians.
Yeah.
It's just a job they're like,
just tell us you're doing it.
Yeah.
Just tell us.
It's cool.
So if you tell us.
I mean, but once again,
we know what happens,
but I can't name any politician
in any company they're associated with.
That is given the money.
I have no idea.
Can you name any politician?
Oh, yeah.
Mitch McConnell.
Here you go.
Yeah.
I mean, the head,
what is Nancy Pelosi?
And there's like,
there's a vegan Democrat guy
that's black dude.
I eat mostly plants.
At least I try to.
So I was following him.
Cory Booker is his name.
But he's cool.
I know a bunch of them.
All right.
But the more you listen to it, the more
they just sound like the exact same person.
There's one.
Have you ever watched like,
any like big debates or hearings
amongst politicians?
No.
I don't really.
If you listen to it.
The Breck Havanaugh thing was
Oh, about the whole like,
not him.
Did you rape a girl or something?
I didn't watch those hearings.
I don't.
I think it was the accusation.
The accusation.
The accusation.
I don't know how bad it was.
So the longer you listen to like a
a bunch of politicians like when the
fucking uh,
the Trump Russia thing was going on.
You remember that?
They're the impeachment hearings.
Listen to those.
All of them at all at once.
What it boils down to?
Some I'm a pilot.
Most of these politicians by the way,
I have a lot of degrees.
They're all most of them were previously lawyers.
I could see that.
And it's it's one will say something they'll go.
You you person,
Republican have done this thing.
And you didn't do this that you promised
blah blah blah blah.
And then it'll go to the Republican guy and it'll go.
And you did it's never there's no acknowledgement
of wrongdoing ever.
It's always look what you did.
Then it goes to them and goes look what you did.
And there's not one instance of going someone going.
Yeah, I did do this.
They don't even rebuttal on the points made against them.
It's like just attack attack attack.
Yeah, which automatically assumes that
all the things that they were being accused of.
They did.
They never rebuttal the things that they're accused of.
I feel like the public consciousness is dumb enough to
wear like if you admit wrongdoing,
that'll just go against you on the grand scale.
Yeah, I think in general,
yes, but I think there's definitely something
in most humans that we tend to play down of like
when someone admits they're wrong.
Maybe it seems weak, but it really like.
Being genuine is more important.
Right. I think that it might seem in the moment
like it's not when someone's like
I did do that thing.
And like, you know, either I feel sorry,
you're going to step something and take.
I think that gives more leeway to like us being persuaded.
Even though it seems like it doesn't.
I think that works in a one-on-one case.
Yeah.
In the masses, I think.
A little different.
Unfortunately.
Yeah, maybe that is the way it is.
Or maybe that's why it's the way it is now.
Maybe that's why it's the.
I feel like if you're in anything,
people are going to just take that now ammunition.
But he even said he did it.
And people would just drill that into the masses.
Hear me out here.
So that drilling,
I feel like a lot of that.
There's extremes on both sides of politics.
Always, right?
Any amount of parties you had,
you have the extreme people.
And now with the internet,
that drilling, I feel like happens.
It seems like all the time about anything.
Politician, comedian, actor,
the someone does something.
Whether it be really bad.
You make it extreme.
And that drilling happens on everything.
But the general public,
like doesn't, I feel like they don't see it that way.
We were made to believe from all this noise
that that's the way that most people feel.
They're like, someone fucks up and you go.
So you think most people see through it.
I think so.
Actually that extreme.
Yeah, like when people see someone fuck up and be like,
I did fuck that.
Like I am taking responsibility.
I think people resonate more with that.
I could be entirely wrong on this.
I think it definitely varies.
Yeah.
Case by case.
But I feel like most people have,
I should say, well,
like common sense.
If anything, this is biased because I was just in the system with all these
fucking common people as I am.
But I was impressed, dude, by like the level-headedness that most people had.
Yeah.
Like a bunch of random people from all walks of life,
entirely like down to earth,
which you just don't, I did not expect that at all.
Changed my perspective in this week, for sure.
And I wonder if part of that is everyone kind of getting that purpose you are talking about.
Everyone kind of is writing that feeling of,
hey, we all got to do this together.
And this matters.
Yeah.
Yeah, it could be.
I guess separate from that part is just like talking to the people there.
Yeah.
It's like talking with you, you know, non the, you know, the fuck upness stuff.
But dude, oh my god, there's so many opportunities where I was going to say something
pretty bad.
And I was like, can't say that.
We're going to be in the same room for the next like four days.
There was a fuck what was it?
I think someone was talking about, I don't even know.
It was something, I think it was a STD related thing.
I was going to bring up the animal stuff.
I keep talking about,
and then I realized the potential for that to ruin the room.
And then we're sitting.
They just put it for four days.
That is perfect.
Perfect.
Sample size of an audience to test that bit out.
Yeah, that you're locked in a room with for four days though.
Do it on like the last time.
You've been at a club and they just throw you in a room for the next four days.
For the people you bumped in front of.
Oh god.
Yeah.
Yeah, that you're the, you're the Climedi a guy.
Exactly.
No one's going to take you seriously.
But,
level head and this of people impress me in terms of just like conversation.
We're talking with people.
There was, there was one guy when I was waiting in the big jury a lot.
While they're like calling you to be interviewed.
Where there's like hundreds of people.
I sit down and it's like this short guy in a suit.
And most people are just dressed in casual stuff or maybe a dress shirt.
And he's reading this book.
And he like, you kept making like some comments as stuff would happen like little jokes.
He's like maybe 65 or something.
And so I just strike up a conversation with them.
And the book he's reading is a book about how people's lack of faith in this country
is the thing that's causing like communism to take over or socialism.
Oh, which is kind of an interesting concept.
It's, yeah.
There's probably some truth to it.
But I don't know if I totally followed the like,
if you don't believe in God.
Like, oh, like religious faith.
Yeah, he's like specifically Christianity in that book context.
So we were talking and then it started off okay of like we're talking about
stuff and animals just like quirky things that everyone experiences.
He was like talking about like how coyotes would run through his lawn shows me like,
like an old person does with the phone just starts showing you a patient of the shit.
Then we were talking about we got on the topic of politics.
I don't think I started it, but we got on to it really quickly.
And he's like, he's obviously a hardcore Republican.
Like talking about how the Democrats have ruined everything and blah, blah.
And there's some truth to that.
But then there's like both sides have done.
Right.
Terrible.
They're all doing the same thing with a different illusion.
Yeah.
Cover.
And so like he's taught I'm not about to take the stance with this person I'm talking to of like,
well, they're both wrong because obviously this guy's like, I'm a Republican.
And then he kept saying things that were just wrong.
Like he was talking about how in tax brackets,
he saw how taxes should be lessened in general.
I'm like, absolutely.
I think that's true.
I think it gets misused all the time.
He's like, yeah, because like people are scared in tax brackets to go up because then
they'll tax you more.
I'm like, that's not how that works.
It's incremental.
So like the money you make in the higher bracket will be taxed that way, not all your money.
Right.
So like he would say stuff like in the vein of that of like being literally wrong about
if never heard the take, people are scared to move up tax brackets.
Ever that there's it's a common misconception.
I guess you would get dreaded to get taxed more, but like you're still making more money.
Right.
The net of all of it, you're making more.
Yeah, exactly.
The money you're making at that level is getting taxed more than the money you're making at the lower level,
which he would say stuff in that vein of thought while we're talking about these points and I'm like,
dude, what are we doing here?
Because now you're like, and I would correct him.
He just got, oh, he did correct.
Yeah, and he would be like, oh yeah.
Like, no, that's what's receptive.
No, this is the weird thing is that when I would say the corrections, he knew the corrections.
So he knew he was providing me with false information.
Oh, yeah.
And the, it probably looks fine on the surface and the conversation, but it's the conversation is
degrading because I'm losing this person's lying to me.
Your whole perceptive on this person.
Yes, it's like why it sucks when you find someone who's so passionate about something,
who's willing to lie to get you to believe in the thing.
Like you lost all the credibility now of like me believing in this thing,
you're trying to sell me of whether it be the Christianity and politics or whatnot,
but like you're saying things to make your point that you know aren't true.
And then I tell you, no, that's not true.
And you go, oh yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
carries on.
And then, okay, hold on, here's the kicker.
It's devolving to the point where he's getting, you can, where it's like Fox News,
Dad vibes, where it just keeps going down to these levels of like,
there's subtle levels of racism down there.
Oh.
And then he's, I don't know how it led to this, but he started being like,
yeah, and the problem is with, you know, with like immigration and he every time he's
looking around, well, he's every time.
And like we're packed in with hundreds of people.
Like everyone, we're the only people talking.
And like everyone can seem to be like,
immigration, like there's a lot in anyone in this goddamn country.
I'm like, okay, now I'm stuck.
I'm stuck next to this fucking dude.
It's almost like he was trying to start from a place where people could connect to him
and then just pull you down and do it.
Yeah, it was, it was weird to experience for sure.
And then did he get selected?
I mean, he wasn't, he got pulled into it from the group.
Yeah, yeah.
Thank God, dude.
But it was, it was weird.
It was, it's so weird to see like,
people who've been on this earth for like seven years or 65 years.
And have seen a lot of different things and then just lie to you.
Yeah.
And then get caught and be like, oh yeah, I did do that.
Anyway.
In real time in front of you and have no, it's almost worse that he admitted it so quickly.
Yeah.
I mean,
it's bad either way.
It's just weird.
I haven't seen that.
Like, I can't think of another instance where that's happened in real time where
someone's like, they know they lie and they go, oh yeah.
It's been to you and talk to you.
So fucking weird.
It's like, it's like lying and honest at the same time.
Ah, yeah.
But it's, yeah, it's the lie.
Once in my experience in that conversation, you just immediately are like,
why am I talking to this person?
Because you're being the person you're acknowledging they lied and then lie.
Once again, this wasn't one fact.
I don't remember the other ones I corrected them on, but it was stuff was like,
that's not how that works.
He's like, yeah, you're right.
And then we'll just continue to do this fucking thing.
Do you think he didn't know and literally heard your correction and was like, oh,
yeah, I don't know.
It didn't seem that way.
But he was also older.
So maybe there was just like, I don't know, CT.
Or just old.
Yeah.
You go straight to head trauma.
Yeah.
You could just be like dementia.
So you think, yeah, equivocal.
I don't know how we got back to that.
I was curious about, could you just get selected?
I should say, does anyone watch your conversations once you're selected in the jury?
Does anyone listen then?
Conversations once you're selected?
Because like, you have to deliberate with the other jurors, right?
At the end.
At the end?
Yeah.
So what do you mean?
What conversations?
Because like, what if you, you discuss if he's,
right?
So what if you like introduced a ton of bias at that point?
And they realized you or you shouldn't have been selected.
So we can't do anything.
You could easily.
If you just knew how to pass the
Oh, yeah.
Questions at the beginning?
Absolutely.
I mean, that's the thing though is that generally,
most people I get the vibe don't want to be there.
Right.
That's generally the vibe.
So like, someone to con their way into this thing, they don't want to be in just
and they don't know what case they're going to be on.
Right.
So no clue until you've been selected.
So it would be a long con to play.
And then most of the pain would be inflicted on you because say you got to that point
of where you have this bias thing, which you haven't been able to talk about the case the whole time.
Right.
So you haven't been able to like, plant seeds of bias in any of these people.
You would just be coming full front.
Be like, this is how I feel and having to convince people within a matter of like,
small amount of time, right?
Essentially.
So you would just be hit with a ton of push pay.
It would be awful.
Be a terrible situation to be in.
Someone's probably done it.
I mean, they can't not try it next time.
Yeah, just ruin a fucking court case.
Did you can deliberations continue forever until you decide?
So like, it has to be unanimous for criminal.
Civil has to be like five, six or whatever.
So in a case where it's criminal, if one person goes, no, you sit there and it'll go on,
like it's happened with big high profile stuff or deliberation will take
days, weeks, and you just, because one person's like, mm-hmm.
Wow.
Yeah.
I think it's even if that person was super biased, there's no way they're flipping 12 people.
They're 11 other things.
That's the thing.
So they would sooner give in.
You say that it's probably happened.
Maybe.
Probably as, like someone just date others probably a couple times.
Like someone had such a good point.
They were like, holy fuck.
Someone just takes over.
Oh, that's actually pretty sick.
I'd like to see that fucking play out.
Should make a movie about it, dude, because you could never see that play out.
It's a true point.
But yeah, no.
It's weird.
Anyway, onto the next thing.
All right.
What time we got?
126.
So do like plenty of content coming your way.
All right, we're headed towards the bottom of the list.
Oh, this is right.
This is more probably tick should.
But super simple.
You see that stuff with the Silicon Valley bank.
We're like, you know, they're
falling in line with what typically happens when banks misuse people's money.
They just, you know, money they don't have spend it all and then they go bankrupt and then
government bailes them out.
I'm not a huge fan of Biden.
But he was talking on the topic of this because people are questioning,
are they going to bail them out, which is for the common people.
We don't know what that is.
They just use taxpayer money to literally pay banks off
that misused people's money for their own good, which in my head is fucking insane.
We've done that for so long.
But they just spend all of our money and they go, we're all out.
And the government goes, well, we'll give you more.
It's just like this.
There's never ending revolving door of our money.
They just get to keep burning through.
So anyway, the Silicon Valley won.
The reason it would got big news is because it was heavily,
it was like startups heavily used it.
It was all about startups use that as their main banking system.
And Biden was like, it's like, that's not how this works.
This is capitalism.
If you do that with people's money, your company goes under.
That's just how it is.
And I was like, fuck yeah.
Usually it's some like wishy washy bullshit like, well, I don't know.
Well, if we don't bail them out, the economy will fall and blah, blah, blah, they always do that.
The economy is going to decommunite.
It's going to blow up if we don't bail out this bank.
And then we bail them out and then markets crash.
And you know, it's, I think it's all bullshit.
I'm not an economist, but every time we seem to let them crash a market
and then bail them out and they do it again.
It's got to be consequences, right?
Yeah, dude.
The flip side is like a lot of people trusted their money to that bank.
I mean, I guess that's on you to put your money somewhere.
Well, we have the federal insurance of up to 250.
So that's for sure.
But like, if a, if any company does that, banks are the only one that get that out.
Like, yeah, any typical company if they did that with their money, they had no money.
Government want to go, oh yeah, we'll give you some money.
Yeah, the company fails as it should.
Otherwise, that company is going to do the same fucking thing.
They have those values.
They did it once.
They're going to do it again.
Stop it.
Do it.
It's the same thing with fucking subsidies.
What we have stuff that if most people, if it didn't have a subsidy,
it wouldn't prosper.
The entire industry would fall apart.
Yeah.
But we continue to be like, give them tons of money.
And then there's also like, caps that we put on those companies.
Like for agricultural, but caps on certain things.
So that there's no incentive to do better.
So you just literally have to be there and do whatever the government says to receive money.
So just kind of stagnates.
And then the government starts to like own everything because they're the main
payer of this thing.
Yeah.
And then all of it falls apart.
All right.
This isn't something that's been talked about a lot.
But you know, like when a foreign person comes here,
and their accent is typically like hot, you're like, oh, it's different.
Do you think like American accents are thought of that way?
I don't know.
Right?
I think so.
I think just anything different.
I think so too.
It just sounds like if you were bound to another country.
Uh, no.
No.
No.
Okay.
Yeah.
Have you?
Yeah.
No.
I want to, I want to Switzerland.
No.
People.
I thought people would hate Americans.
People loved me.
Really?
Yeah.
Wait, hold on.
Set it up.
Why did you go?
It was a study abroad.
Okay.
How long were you there?
It was there for three weeks.
Okay.
It's a good chunk.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like you get there, people are like, oh John Wayne.
Oh, I'm sad.
I'm an Asian person.
No, it's up to you.
I was, I would just walk up to people and be like,
spreck and English.
They'd be like, yeah.
Oh my god.
The toe.
Yeah, it didn't even,
we've tried to do the accent.
You just, you lean into the American accent.
People realize you're different.
And they're excited.
Interesting.
Do you like party out there?
Like what was the,
Oh yeah.
What was the socializing?
Like,
Oh, there was this,
they had this huge festival.
At this,
we went to this,
this school.
And apparently over there,
after the classes and,
but before finals.
Okay.
There's like three days
and they just have this massive festival
where they just drink on the campus
in like the academic rooms and stuff.
There was a three day thing,
just a bender.
And they dress in like old timey costumes.
it was a lot of time.
It's like a great like Renaissance fare.
Kind of.
Yeah.
That's pretty fucked up.
No, sweet.
It's called frock vulca.
Did you, did you make any friends out there?
They used to like talk to.
I kind of lost touch with most of the people.
I mean,
I made friends in my group of kids.
The people came over.
I met some swiss people.
A couple of swiss people.
But what's the,
what's like a Swiss dish?
Would you eat what you're there?
Fucking cheese,
wine, and bread, dude.
I ate that every day.
It's pretty good.
Yeah.
I mean, can't go around cheese,
wine and bread.
Oh, it's awesome, too.
Hell yeah.
Was it like,
these are all just,
like small talk-o-shots,
but I want to know,
what's like the weather.
Well, I guess one, one time a year.
I want to know.
Dude, it's the most small talk.
Yeah.
It has, it was nice.
It's beautiful.
It was the last time when you went.
Yeah, it was summer time.
Yeah.
Because there's a
conversation with some of the jurors this morning.
Small talk stuff, but
one of the guys we're talking about,
how like in the Midwest,
we have, we see all four seasons.
Other places don't typically get that.
You know, you go to California.
It's like Groundhog Day.
But we all kind of agree
if I'm like false kind of off.
Like the changing of colors of leaves
and that, they're like small window of a month.
Where it's like,
yeah, you can wear jacket,
you don't have to wear a jacket.
The leaves are out.
It's getting spooky outside.
And then,
we're like, this is good,
shed right here, right?
Like, is there anywhere in the world
that has that longer,
that has longer fall?
Yeah.
That just like,
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm a fall.
I feel like fall is literally,
like an inflection point in the weather.
So it can't last.
It seems like a transition thing.
It's like a week here.
It's not even a month anymore.
I feel like.
Did we just find the trans season?
Oh my god.
Yeah, dude.
Fuck.
But yeah,
I think they get all the stuff.
I think they have seasons.
Yeah, you know what,
fucking like,
like ecosystem,
Switzerland is,
or probably,
well, I think it's slightly north.
I feel like it's pretty close.
Like Canada.
Plain or wise.
Uh-oh.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well tight.
Well,
that's a good time.
Yeah, dude.
I was going to want to Munich too.
Oh, dude.
How was that?
That was the mo-
As soon as you get there,
you're like,
holy shit, it's Europe.
It looks exactly like
everything you've ever seen in Europe.
Just the architecture
and the streets and everything.
Do most people speak English?
I guess,
everyone.
Literally everyone.
That's fucking crazy to me.
I mean, that's a way.
Because it makes traveling here.
We stumbled into this bar
and this guy just,
he's like,
no, it's closed.
You can't come in here
and he talked to us for like five minutes.
He's like, I'm sorry,
my English sucks.
It's my fourth language.
I'm like, dude,
that was so good.
Too fuck.
That's pretty cool.
Because in my head,
I had it like,
it'd be hard.
If you're an English speaker,
to go anywhere else,
but it's probably pretty popular.
Yeah.
I mean, I could talk
to just about everyone.
It's pretty dope.
Nice.
Yeah.
Well,
the next thing.
We'll do a couple more.
I think we're, let's see.
Oh.
Have you seen the movie The Whale yet?
I really want to fucking watch that movie.
Uh, no.
Oh, you know what it is.
Right.
Printer Frazier.
Yeah.
Dude, we should,
there is apparently,
you know,
Dove, the soap company.
This has been happening
for a while with other kinds of stuff,
but they're like,
I don't know why,
why is Dove making these?
Does Dove make statements about stuff
that's not soap?
First of all,
I've never heard Dove make a comment.
I have no.
Okay.
Well, I'll probably make a comment.
That was saying that,
that movie whale they should have hired
an actually obese person.
Which, okay, why did Dove say that?
That, that's why I'm like,
what?
What connection do they have to the,
the weight of America?
They make soap and hair care products.
To their point,
not to their point,
to counter their point.
That logic is so bad.
Is there anything?
I think, okay, maybe not to everything,
because I think of like,
there was a movie
from the,
this is in line with Soulman, actually.
There's no where you're going with that.
There's a, there was a, well,
I mean, that movie is an 80s example,
but there was a movie on Genghis Khan
in like the 50s where John Wayne,
the cowboy guy,
was just Genghis Khan.
Like full, like Asian faced.
Essentially.
That was a thing.
Yeah, yeah.
So in that realm, I can see it,
like if you're casting people,
you don't cast a white guy as the black guy.
Right.
Because it's like a physical thing.
But I guess the obese one is a good example of that,
but,
fuck, oh,
maybe I'm eating my own argument.
I think,
well, okay, how, how he was huge in that movie,
isn't he supposed to be like 600 pounds?
Yeah.
Well, you know,
severely obese.
Yeah.
The race thing is like there's enough talent
to where you should,
you should hire someone of that race to play the part.
That's true.
As opposed to
obese people.
I don't know how many obese actors
signed up for.
I can't name one.
Like that obese.
Yeah, I think a morbidly obese person.
I can have one,
I think I can have that.
I think I can have that.
I think I can have that.
From the remember the Titans,
he was, he was pretty big.
See how many remember that guy.
Okay.
Yeah.
Have you seen the movie Wonder?
It's a, oh,
it's not, the name sounds familiar.
What is it?
It's about a kid with treacher colon syndrome.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
It's where you're born without cheek bones, I believe.
Okay.
Regardless, it's a
pretty severe deformity in your face.
Okay.
And that's like any,
I once
said in a social setting how I,
I liked that movie.
And because it's good.
It's a, it's a heartwarming movie.
I cried.
Cry segment.
I cried during that movie.
Someone attacked me for,
for supporting that movie.
Because it wasn't that,
because,
because,
because,
because it was,
because it was,
it was a 12 year old kid playing
the kid with treacher colon syndrome.
Sure.
Because it,
because he didn't actually have it.
Okay.
Someone was, was outraged that.
how did that conversation result?
It didn't,
that,
it result with the person storming out of the room.
No way.
So you stood your ground?
Yeah.
Proud of you for that.
That's because,
not that,
in social situations,
sometimes I'll just buckle
because I don't want to fucking,
I don't want to,
I just want to,
it to end, you know?
Because I know this person's off their
fucking rocker when they're made.
There's something going on.
If they're making a strong stance like that,
I'm like,
you can have that.
But,
so,
hold on, so what,
I was,
what did you counter with when they were like,
hey, this is,
this is fucked.
You can't do that.
I mean,
first of all, just that
this person's kind of an acquaintance,
not super close.
Sure.
Just the fact that they came at me was,
I was like, why are you attacking?
That's pretty,
so that allowed,
yeah, not a great start.
And like, I think, like, why,
I didn't want to say the gender.
Too late.
The argument was like,
they're like, I don't know why they made it the movie.
Like, I don't know,
like, you don't know what their motive is.
Okay.
And I was,
I was like, literally the person's family was,
I did a lot of research after this argument.
But, okay, I shouldn't say that because I didn't say that in the time.
In the moment, I was like,
how many 12 year olds with this super rare disease
are lining up to play this role?
Right.
They probably,
I'm going to go on a lemon, say zero.
Yeah.
So,
and then,
the response of that was,
okay, well, then they shouldn't have made the movie.
Well, really,
that this movie spread awareness to it.
Does he?
Yeah, never heard of.
Right.
It showed how hard it is for a kid to grow up
with that.
And it was,
like, it was really like moving.
Yeah, I was moved by that.
Like, you gained compassion for those types
of people who have that.
Someone like, something I didn't even know about.
And then, and afterward,
because, yeah, I was,
the person stormed out.
I was heated after this.
I didn't punch the wall.
Did recent, and apparently the family
was brought to tears by it.
They were so happy.
So, the people who were affected by it.
Yeah, they loved it.
They were so happy that awareness was brought to the condition
of their child.
This person has to be the house.
Here's the nail in the cup.
No, no.
He must have been dicked pieces.
He got to let it go at some point.
I'm clearly over it as you can tell.
Yeah, absolutely.
As you sit up and as I give it a bridge.
This was years ago.
I was doing that shit.
It's weird.
I just, I couldn't believe I,
I was so taken aback.
I never even thought it would have been a sensitive area.
Yeah.
So, I get the whole, the whale thing.
Yeah, it's weird because you were in,
you were there when one of these happened,
not on the scale of being attacked.
But the Dahmer series had just come out.
Right.
And I was like, dude,
I think I took the devils.
I have a kid on that one.
Sorry, go ahead.
No, I don't think you did there because there was a,
someone sitting, it was either.
I'm saying people's names.
Fuck.
We'll cut that.
We'll cut that.
We'll cut that.
It was someone at the table and they're like,
you know, that just, it makes those families relive that horror and that trauma.
And, you know,
they, I'm not going to watch it for that reason.
I was like,
okay.
But it's,
if you want to make that argument,
there's been,
not hundreds,
but so many things made about everyone in those situations.
And it's mostly like,
I don't want to call it awareness,
but it's just, it's a story about something that happened.
Yeah.
Like that thing happened.
That thing will keep existing in history.
And for someone to be like,
shouldn't consume that because someone made a thing about the thing that happened.
Right.
To me, it falls flat on space.
And it being like,
if anything, that series kind of brings to light, like,
how gay communities face like police brutality and police ignorance all over the place.
Because until I had seen that version,
like I had known of Jeffrey Dahmer,
he would go to the gay parts of Milwaukee,
find his victims there, do all this stuff.
But most of his victims was just because police didn't want to touch any gay stuff.
Like they would just were,
yeah, like he would get away with some,
because he was a white man in a black neighborhood
that half the time the cops came there for some,
like the neighbors were constantly calling about the smell,
the noise, like he was grinding up humans in his apartment.
And they just ignored it because it was a black neighborhood,
like severely poverish.
And the one time where he had a 14 year old,
like Native American kid that he had drilled a hole into his head.
And the kid had gotten out and ran to the street.
Oh my God.
The cops who took the kid and brought him back to Jeffrey Dahmer.
And literally were like,
Jeffrey Dahmer's like, oh, sorry, it's my boyfriend.
He's drunk and literally just brought him,
and then killed him and ate him because of the cops.
Oh my God.
Like people need to know those sides of the story.
Right. Yeah.
That chicken happened because of levels of racism and discrimination
in government systems like that.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
I can see the part where like,
the families who got their family members killed by Jeffrey Dahmer.
If you watched that,
yeah, that would be traumatic.
Why would they do that?
Why would they watch it?
Yeah. Like on some level, it's on you if you're choosing to go out of all the stuff that exists.
You're choosing to go do that thing.
Yeah.
And then be like, I can't possibly put myself in this.
No, I don't know if I would watch it or not.
I can't even.
I don't know.
I would assume they wouldn't.
There's also, there's been tons of stuff made about,
there's been multiple movies, multiple series made about Jeffrey Dahmer.
This one is to hit because it had Evan Peters,
who's a phenomenal actor, by the way.
And the whole thing was done in a way that was like,
it was an interesting fucked up story.
They did it well.
But the one I feel like I remember in that conversation,
the one I felt weird about was the Ted Bondi movie,
which I feel was like, I front.
Yeah.
I didn't see it, but I watched a trailer
and I felt just eerie.
It felt like they were just glamorizing.
Yeah, like, yeah, making it be like a sack at Fron's Ted Bondi.
And like that, that made me really think
if I knew someone who was killed by him,
I would be like, what the fuck is this?
Yeah.
That one's hard too because Ted Bondi was like,
a lady's man.
Yeah, like he was, women loved him.
Which is insane.
Right.
Well, he was like a smooth, apparently a smooth guy.
The hands-wise, he could like do all these things.
But even after it was known, he was a killer.
People were like, oh my god, he's so hot.
Dude, he had people like reaching out to him by letter in prison
being like, oh my god, I want to marry you and shit like that.
He had a girlfriend while in the girlfriend knew a lot of stuff.
Yeah.
And would come visit them and they would,
like, they were together.
So I can see,
I don't know, it's like, is it wrong?
It's been true.
Not in the place to speak on it.
Because I don't know what it would be like.
These are all, as you can see, I'm obviously over this conversation too.
That happened.
It's good to say, man, let's bring up old shit.
We're not over yet.
Oh man.
There's so many fucking shower conversations in my head of just like,
you know, when I get the most of those conversations,
though, is when if I drink coffee late and I'm laying in bed,
it's the mix of the not sleeping and coming down from coffee,
my brain will go to some of the worst times in my life.
And just like cycle through them on repeat while I can't sleep.
Oh yeah.
It's so bad, man.
But it's mostly, it's more commonly conversations I had,
like, you rehearse them or recap them all the fucking time.
Like, I was sure to set this when, or just have conversations that probably will never happen.
Yeah.
Like if I get into this situation, I should say this.
And even in real life when I get them, I would never,
you'd never be as vicious as you would get into your mind just dismantling.
So I had to, I had happened today and I thought about it for probably two hours after the end of the day
when I got determined an alternate and jury duty.
Are you over that?
Well, this is not yet.
No, there's, so this is my first time doing this thing.
So I don't know what you're supposed to do.
If, especially the alternate thing, like I didn't know what was going to happen,
he called me alternate, used kind of sit away from the jury because they're like,
in a stand, then you like sit in a separate seat when you're the alternate, just for the empire.
And he's like, the judge asked me, like, do you have stuff in the back of the name?
You want to go and I'm like, yeah, I got some stuff so I gotta walk back.
There's like, if you want to have a chat, we can have a chat.
Which I didn't know it was like, what does that mean?
It's like a debrief of the whole thing and then talking to you about next steps.
But the judge was so nice and he was like, but if you have to be anywhere, I don't want to keep you.
And me not reading the situation at all went, yeah, I'm just gonna head out and just grab my stuff and dip it out.
Okay.
And okay, so this is fucking neurotic as shit.
The whole time leaving, I'm like, that guy doesn't like me now.
He thinks that like, I didn't even want to spend two seconds to talk with this man.
And like, was he asking, do you want to just talk?
That's what I interpreted it as.
But it definitely, after the fact, I was like, that's probably not to just go hang out and talk to the fucking office.
You want to get a beer?
No, literally, but in the moment of being like, not panicky, but just like everything's going on and asking me,
I was like, no, I'm just gonna go.
But then I'd think about the situation and it probably looked more like, I don't want to fucking talk to you.
I'm getting the fuck out of here and just left.
And so, thought about that a thousand times on the car at home.
And then he could see so many people.
But right, but then in my head, I'm like, the next time I see him, I'll say that I know he's super busy
and I just didn't want to take up any of his time.
Like that conversation's ever gonna happen.
Like me playing-
Oh, like you would bring it up again.
Yeah, like you would be like, I just didn't want to like, I know you're busy.
I don't want to have to like, take your time away.
So that's the end of thinking about that for literally hours.
So talk about neuroticism and fucking having conversations and be like, I'm gonna say this next time.
I'm never gonna see that judge again.
Watch me see him tomorrow.
Just walk down the fucking street or get called back as an alternate.
Then have to be in the thing.
All right, let's do our fucking reoccurring things.
Let's do a, we do pet peeve stuff that came either one that you can think of
or something that happened to you that this week or recently,
that you're like, what the fuck?
I can't even get the fuck out of here.
I mean, yeah, I got a bunch.
I, one that I've been thinking of, experiencing recently,
when people just talk in circles, say the same thing over and over and it's like,
dude, I get it.
How many of that crazy, that's crazy man, do you?
You hit him with like three deep and man, that's crazy.
Well, no, not even like, I mean, there's that when someone's just telling a boring story,
you don't care.
But I'm talking like trying to explain a point and you've got, it's like, dude, I got it four
times ago and you just keep going.
It's tough.
Yeah.
So what's your, what's your move on that?
Do you just keep going?
All right.
I just kind of let him go.
Eventually, you got to just break up.
So I'm going to find a way to just be like, yeah, it's divert.
Yeah, be like, oh, and this next thing.
But it's,
yeah, it's weird for people to not understand that you understand.
Like, right.
Well, and I don't even think it's that they just, I think people just like saying stuff.
They just like making points.
That's true.
It does feel like you already made it.
It does.
Yeah, it does.
But it's, it's the, I can just feel my time just leaving like, I'm like, I don't want to
spend any more time in this.
Yeah.
That's a fuck dude.
Now you're not you're saying that.
All right.
You got one.
I guess.
Yeah.
That one kind of ties in years.
Let's see.
Trying to think of over the course this week.
If I knows anything that, oh, I'm just going to say this one because it's fun.
It only gives away any information.
All right.
And it might be biased because I've had this hat.
I feel like everyone's had this happen to them.
But when someone recognizes you as someone else, like a famous person or someone they saw,
and they just call you that, the example here is in the mighty ducks.
There was, I forgot what they call them.
But as a guy who like couldn't escape would hit really hard.
Okay.
I've never seen that movie.
Oh, okay.
All right.
So he has a name.
But he's like in the movies, like this dorky kind of chubby dude.
And the bay lift kind of looked like, like kind of.
And so this one girl and as we're in the jury room, we're like, we'd go on break and we just sit there until they're ready for us.
And we have to go back.
So it's just all the jurors in a small room.
And she's like, yeah, the bay lift today looks like this guy.
And like, we're all like chocolate about it.
Like, yeah, yeah.
He comes to get us for course.
The guy opens the door.
He's like, yeah, just calls the guy that like yells it as a joke.
I'm like, damn.
I hate when people do that shit.
It's like such an uh, a fucking ignorance of how someone's going to feel when you do that to them.
Right.
Of like, girl, what what are you doing?
Yeah.
Oh, I do.
I guess how did the person take it?
Just like, okay.
He's a bay lift at like a criminal justice system.
He's like, Jesus fucking Christ.
I think she said that two times.
I was like, if you see mighty ducks and then he's like, no, like you could tell not wanting any part
right or to entertain this at all.
It's got to be Brad Pitt or someone good looking.
If you're going to do that to someone, that's what I'm saying.
You're calling him this guy that's like not someone you necessarily want to be a so not
associate but look like and just be like, yeah, this guy and you're that's your name now.
It's weird to keep.
It's one thing to be like, hey, you kind of look like this person.
Yeah, we're just keeping the joe going, especially when they're not re-act,
especially when they're re-acting the way of like,
yeah, okay tight.
Fuck.
That I think I've said this probably is my pet peeve a while ago but that lack of self-awareness
is probably my biggest one like someone's doing something and it's obvious that everyone
receiving it is like, please stop.
Please.
And the person's like, I'm going to keep going.
I think that's just all pet peeves ever.
That's just someone has a lack of awareness.
True.
That's someone else's man about it.
Yeah, and they just manifest in different kind of ways, which in this way is calling someone
a name that, because I've been recognized as fucking Shilabuff a lot growing up.
No joke.
I've been at random bars.
I can't see.
And people go like, Shilabuff, people get exactly like Shilabuff.
I'm like, yeah, thanks man.
That, uh, that's a nice like mid-range.
Yeah.
I can deal with it.
It's not the worst.
I've gotten Seth Rogan before.
I don't see that at all.
Yeah, not many people.
No, multiple, multiple independent people.
Interesting.
I got before, if anyone, there was an era of this guy, do you remember what
bro science was?
It was like a YouTube channel of this guy, Dom Mazzetti, who was just literally
like doing spoof bros, because it was in that era of like,
this is what you should do to lift man.
And like he was just making fun of all of it.
Like saying wild shit in the fucking gym.
But I look very similar to that guy.
Okay.
To the point where I wore it as a costume.
He had to have like reps for Jesus.
So I just printed a picture of Jesus on there and had reps for Jesus on a tank.
It's pretty fucking dope.
Nice.
But that one and Shilabuff have happened.
A wild amount to.
Shilabuff's whole area.
It's just so it's so funny to me that a random person in public will feel
that you look so strongly.
They'll be like, whoa, whoa, you look exactly like Shilabuff.
I'm like, thanks man.
I have multiple sources.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, many at bars, almost always at bars in college.
They're like, I never would have thought that.
I think certain angles I can.
But like, you know the angle.
Definitely the dot.
I'll show you a picture after we're dumb.
This is the dumbest Eddie guy.
But a lot like dumbest Eddie.
For sure.
Okay.
That covers Pat Peeves.
Happy moment, cry moment.
But you said you did cry, right?
No, I said, yeah, years ago.
To the left, I'm like crying.
Here's ago.
I was an emotional man.
I didn't have any of that.
Do you think we should be more proactive with the cry thing?
Let's try to force ourselves to cry.
Try to cry?
Yeah.
Something a dangerous game.
Because then you get into some social.
We just say all the time.
Each week we try to cry.
We come back.
We talk about what we tried.
Did it work?
Did it not?
Made it in OnlyFans.
Definitely worked.
It's crying for a while.
Okay.
I think, dude, you say that.
And when I was.
Obviously, I haven't watched it yet.
But that whale movie.
I feel like that is a guaranteed.
It's here preemptively calling your cry.
Yes.
Because I knew, I mean, it's.
It's been touted as an amazing move.
I mean, Bren and Frazier were one and.
Oscar for.
For the one best actor.
Yeah.
And it's known as, it's good, but it's known as like one of the saddest movies out there right now.
Wow.
Yeah.
It's super emotional.
And I really want to fucking see it.
So I know I'm gonna put in cry.
I did, though, this week.
And all this jury stuff.
Not cry, but get tearied of.
That counts.
Yeah.
Coming home today and feeling that weird sadness of like having a breakup of like.
God.
Yeah, dude, once again, there's something about that.
The like.
Bonding that you have with people in situations of not.
This isn't peril, obviously, but.
High-stake situations where you're with people for a long.
It's not that long, but prolonged period of time.
And just now they're you're never going to see those people again.
Ever.
And it was like.
Oh, it's hidden away that once again, as I said before,
did not expect when I came home.
No one was here.
It's like, fuck.
God damn.
What hits you on expect to like that?
That's intense.
Yeah, because I was like, oh, I'm free for like, there's moments you know
are gonna catch up.
It to it.
It's.
Yeah.
That's exactly it.
It's kind of fascinating.
It is, dude, especially when it's even weirder,
because when I they're like, you're an alternate.
Go.
I was expecting that walk out of there to be like.
I'm free from Jerry duty.
And it is Stockholm syndrome.
Do.
Yeah, literally, but the the internal
confliction was like, not my stomach.
I was like, what the fuck?
Why do I do?
It just cause on the way out.
Just a door away and on the wall.
No.
Dude, it's like got out feeling weird.
I literally open the door of the courtroom, which is, you know,
it's like a lot.
You have to go through all these hallways to get out the back and stuff.
And there's this one woman in a hallway walking towards me like.
Oh, so you're the alternate?
Like, what the fuck?
Who are you?
Well, I was like, what the fuck will people?
I forget that there's a whole gallery of people watching this thing.
Right.
And people have seen you coming in out of the building.
Like, there's, you know, there's lawyers in the ecosystem
that are always there that notice probably new people.
Yeah.
And I'm like, yeah, she just started like,
grilling me with fucking questions of like,
oh, how do you like, was it your first time?
Like, how do you like, how do you feel about becoming a,
like literally as if someone was putting a mic in my face.
And like, and you're like, I'm sad.
I literally faked.
I was like, I don't like, like, played the, I'm so happy to leave.
The whole thing while internally being like,
I'm never gonna see these people again.
Like, oh my god, dude, how cool were these people?
These people sound.
They're just average people.
But it's just like, once again, it's a, in most average situations,
I think I had, have that, like I've had situation where I spend a long time with people.
But because it's in the situation of
we're in this together, we're deciding someone's like outcome.
There's really high stakes and we have to like, cooperate.
I just haven't had that.
It's weird to it.
I'm telling you, it's the same.
This is, if this ever goes live, I'm gonna get pitched up by everyone in the military.
But it's like, that fucking going through shit and feeling bonded by that.
Oh, there's, yeah.
Like that brotherhood or big.
I mean, I feel that way about football, like in high school.
Yeah.
When that was over, I was like, I'll never be with these people.
Right, dude.
We went through this shit together.
Yeah.
Not the military, but it's fucking hard to.
It's not the same as seeing someone's arm get blown off.
Yeah.
You living through it, but that, when I see people who like,
have, we're in the military and they're veterans and they see each other and they just like,
have that baseline of, you know, we're in it.
Like, we were bonded on that level.
So I felt,
as silly as that sounds.
So that's beautiful.
Thanks man, I never would have guessed.
Me neither.
Wow, I'm growing.
It's fun.
Isn't it kind of crazy I was talking about this numbness and literally a week after I
haven't experienced it blows away?
You said something.
Weirdly seriously.
Yeah.
Fucking so weird.
You asking you shall receive, man.
It's gonna be a journey, dude.
Dude, I'm excited.
Dude.
I'm gonna start trying to do stuff.
I feel like this has now been going on for so long.
This podcast.
Yeah.
Well, let's fuck wrap it.
Yeah.
There are two, nine, Jesus Christ.
All right, everybody.
That was good.
Most of us are probably getting cut at the end, but thanks for joining us and we'll see you next week.
Bye.
God bless.