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Yo, yo, yo.
So this is the fourth episode that we've recorded.
And we said that every month we were gonna talk
about a movie.
And we did watch a movie.
So I feel like it wasn't one that was too crazy.
But I think it's worth breaking down
because I went into this movie being like,
I fucking, I thought it was a really good scary movie.
And the amount of plot holes that we poked in it,
in a matter of like 20 minutes of being on.
We watched it with the sun up.
That's a problem.
True. Once again, if you watch it by yourself,
very different vibe.
You're like, oh, fuck, but being around a bunch of dudes
in daytime watching it, it was like,
oh man, this story kind of falls apart.
I missed the ending too.
I was too busy Google and that freaking clam.
Yeah, the movie is it follows, by the way,
before we get to into this and talk about stuff,
because no one's gonna know what the fuck we're talking about.
For the audience, pretty much.
The thousands of people listening right now.
Movies called it follows.
I believe it came on around late 2010s,
so like 2018 or 19, the premise of the movie
is that there is this,
called a sexually transmitted disease
that takes the, it's like a demon thing, essentially,
that possesses people.
But if you have it and you fuck someone else,
they now have this thing following them.
And I can take the shape of a person you love
or anything in the movie, it's typically sometimes,
most of it is something like,
it's always people, because it was always people.
It's always people and it's always,
I mean, for the most part of the movie,
it's something like disgusting.
Yeah.
Girl boobs always out.
Yeah.
Pean their pants, like disgusting thing
that you'd be terrified to see.
So, the premise is that beginning of the movie starts off,
and we're not gonna say the whole fucking thing,
but starts off with, this girl has a date with a guy.
Guy has sex with her and then like,
chloroforms her and takes her to the top of this abandoned,
like, we're really noble chloroform.
No, what was he, because he was trying to help her.
Okay, hold on.
Hold on.
It's kind of, it's strange, but it's more to protect himself.
I don't think there's any no more,
because you think about like,
he's doing that to create a buffer between him
and the demon thing, right?
Because this guy has the demon.
Finish saying the rules, because.
Okay, yeah.
So, you have sex, the person who has the demon thing,
if they have sex with someone, it spreads to the other person,
and then the thing will follow that person until it kills them.
Once it kills them, it'll move back to the person who,
it's like a long line of people.
If you fuck, you give it to that person.
If they fuck, they give it to another person,
and the demon will keep working down
until it gets through every last person.
So, we went into this movie, I watched it alone
a bunch of times thinking,
it's a pretty creepy concept,
and especially the way that they portray the movie,
when things are like walking towards you,
like the old ladies probably the worst one of my opinion,
which is the woman walking across campus
for the very tall dude in the room is a little.
Yeah, that's always surprising when he shows up.
Yeah, so, I guess we started watching it,
and the first thing that came up is,
this is supposed to be like in the 1980s,
it goes to the scene with the girl,
the main character, the protagonist, and her friends.
And one of the girls has this clam,
you know, what's it called?
Like what girls, like the little pocket mirrors for like a makeup thing.
That's what looks like in the outside,
but then the camera pans to this angle where it's like a kindle.
It's like this in her hand, and it's in the,
what's there stuff like that?
I never got to the bottom.
Yeah, you googled and there was no obvious answer right now.
There was always one Reddit thread being like,
what the hell is this?
Same question.
Someone out there at the same thought of it.
What the fuck is going on?
I think everyone had that question.
There were no responses.
No, that's so weird.
There's no way it existed though.
I don't think so, because at one point,
I was like, okay, maybe it could exist
if it has literally like one thing on it,
but then later in the movie, she's like,
what are you reading now?
And then she says it different thing.
I'm like, oh, so it has memory storage in 1980s.
Like the internet came out in the 90s.
How do we have this kindle thing?
We don't have pocket computers.
Yeah.
So that's already pletal.
Within five minutes, this weird kindle 80s thing.
When did like the Game Boy come out?
Oh man, I mean, I, yeah, I don't fucking know.
I know when it came out.
We've had computers for a while.
I know that.
Yeah.
But portable pocket ones like that.
I don't know, maybe it is real.
Maybe we should have just looked up like 1980s.
I don't know, computers like portable computers stuff.
It's so weird that I feel like it must have been real now.
Now that I'm thinking about it.
Yeah, like why would they just plant that
in the whole movie with the whole,
it's like all days they knew the movie was below average
and they needed people to talk about it.
They needed the clam.
Yeah.
This will definitely punch off the whole movie.
It's my biggest takeaway from the movie.
What the heck was that?
So anyway.
10 minutes in the movie already like,
what the fuck is that?
Already a vibe of like, no, okay.
And then, dude, you made the mistake of over-hyping.
I dude, the second I said that we should watch this movie,
I thought about you saying,
I don't recommend anything to anyone anymore.
And I swear to God it jinxed the whole fucking thing.
As we sat down this couch to watch it, I was like,
I didn't hate it.
It wasn't bad.
It wasn't bad.
Which I didn't get a vibe of like,
this is so bad when you showed it off.
But I was like, this is definitely not
what I thought it was gonna be.
You got in my head, dude.
Gave you the yips, the movie yips.
Yeah, it's true.
Also, when you wake up from chloroform,
are you a little hazy?
Probably a little.
I don't know.
I would assume so.
But who know, we can try it.
Next podcast was to chloroform each other
and then the chorus waking up off of chloroform
and see how well it goes.
And then none of us wake up and we just die.
Oh God.
Dude, you can make chloroform from
things ammonia and bleach.
You can mix a lot of household things.
I think it's actually isopropyl alcohol and ammonia.
Bleach and chemical world man.
If you mix bleach and oh my God, what is it?
Fuck, there's a common combination.
It'll make chlorine gas.
There's something used to gas the juice.
Oh God.
Like if you accidentally do it,
it's a common household product.
If you mix them, people die from this.
And while it's white do that.
Oh, like the first episode.
Thought it'd gas someone in RV.
Oh no, I don't think that was that.
Okay.
I think it was something more chemically dense
than like a common household accidental mix.
Because this one once again, people have died
from this one of like, they go to mop a floor
and they mix bleach and think it's ammonia.
But it'll make chlorine gas.
Oh my God.
The fumes will literally kill you.
Like you'll be like mixing it
and then you'll just pass out and die.
Yeah.
So anyway.
Jesus.
I don't know how we got here.
Wait, wait.
Why do people mix it?
What do they think they're doing?
They think that they're getting more cleaning power
from the thing.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
But it's, you can't mix certain things just once again.
Isopropyl alcohol and I think ammonia or bleach,
they make chloroform.
So you could just make, you can make it
on a chloroform really cheaply.
They're like a bucket.
But then you have to contain it
because if you're in a closed environment,
there's gonna be breathing in chloroform fumes
and pass out and then you won't wake up.
If you're alone or if there's any,
I guess everyone in the apartment
if it's a closed system would just be knocked out.
So.
Jesus.
Anyway, let's,
let's back.
What were we talking about before this
about the movie?
I don't even remember.
I think, oh, it was because the girl got chloroformed
and we're talking about if she got hazy.
If you get hazy wake up,
she wakes up in the wheelchair after the guy chloroforms.
That was more than enough.
Yeah, that we get to deep dive into mixing household chemicals
and to making like killer fucking chemicals.
The underlying theme of this whole thing
is that everybody wants to fuck this girl.
They find out that she has this demon SDD
and there's like a line of dudes who are like,
give it to me, I'll save you.
But like, it's, it's up dude.
What have finally failed?
What are like a weird obvious message of like,
man, dudes just don't think at all,
especially high school men.
When you're like, just ramp it with hormones
and this girl's like, listen,
if you fuck me, this demon's gonna follow you
for the rest of your life and then kill you and you're like,
yes.
Like, I will, I'm gonna, I will do that.
It's tough.
Yeah.
It's terrible because I remember this movie being so good
and watching it like, damn it.
Fuck.
Dude, that's what, when you watch a movie with someone,
unless it's like a certified banger.
Right.
Dude, I prefer if no one's seen it
because then we can all react.
That's true.
Fair.
But there are movies that, it'd be really bad.
I just thought if we watch Interstellar,
we're like, what the fuck?
This is so bad.
That's scary.
I would, but I've seen it so many times
in the past like five years.
So like, do I watch that movie?
Whenever I'm feeling kind of down,
the movie gets me in the right place.
It's like, it makes you think about problems
that are not on Earth because it's so space.
It's like, your problems are so insignificant
to a possible fourth dimension
and the universe that exists.
I'm like, yeah, you're right.
Interstellar, you're right, Matt, you're McConaughey.
You fucking know.
McConaughey in space.
Unreal idea.
Once, we've talked about this briefly,
but, and many people have,
but his ability to go from romcom to that.
Oh yeah.
Mind blowing.
Like, connoissance.
Wow.
Like, he was typecasted.
So hard.
He couldn't do anything else.
I was just romcom after romcom.
He talks about this.
I was like, I want to become a serious dramatic actor
and boy, did he do it?
Like, fuck, dude.
That movie's amazing to me.
I mean, Christopher Nolan,
probably a huge reason,
but the fact that Matthew McConaughey
could be molded into this lead dramatic.
Oh, I want to watch it now.
It sounds so good.
After watching it follows God damn.
Yeah.
Fuck is the palette a little bit.
Yeah, dude.
Should have done that Sunday.
Yeah.
Anyway, that's it follows.
It was kind of a movie I didn't expect for us to review spoilers.
But this is the fourth episode that we recorded.
So we said we're going to do one.
Next one will probably do either.
Roar.
I am psyched for roar.
That one will be you've seen it though.
So no, when you haven't seen it.
Oh, hell yeah.
This will be a new experience for both of us.
I'm not perfect.
Just like soul man.
Or saving it for us, man.
I wasn't going to mention soul man,
but all right, it's out there.
We watch soul man.
Yeah, dude, it's a movie out there.
I feel no shame.
It's a movie made in the 80s that I mean out of everything.
The fact that James Earl Jones, the man who voiced Darth Vader,
sounds like Darth Vader just talking is insane.
No voice changer.
Nothing.
Never had one.
Nothing.
He's just Darth Vader as a person.
It's so good.
But okay, off the movie stuff.
Topics.
Let's do it man.
Let's do it.
I got hell of topics.
There's so many from last week that we need to get to.
Like, dude, I wrote so much stuff.
Let's see, where do we make?
Oh, dude.
Well, first one that's not that heavy,
which is, I didn't know this,
but Google can essentially tell the size
of the entire internet.
Like, you could download the whole internet.
Oh.
And it's about five million terabytes.
Which I like.
It's pretty crazy.
Because they just have the history of all the data
of all the places that Google will bring you to.
Wow.
Which may not be all of them, but like 99% of all the websites.
And it's five million terabytes, which it's a lot.
Can we, how much storage you need for that?
I like, how much money would you have to pay for servers?
Oh man.
That's probably a fucked ton of money.
Like a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot of money.
But also, I don't know.
It depends where you're storing it.
It's sort of in cloud or you're storing a physical space.
Yeah.
Because cloud, typically a lot cheaper.
But when you think of the cloud,
it's just someone else's physical space.
Like, right, it's all servers.
It's weird that it's like, we have the cloud,
but that's just servers that somehow.
It's a warehouse in Arizona.
So yeah, I just saw that I was like, what the fuck?
But also, it would be funny to buy just like 100 hard drives.
And just download the internet.
I guess a lot more than 100 hard drives.
But just have a couple, just have servers worth of the internet,
like static data that doesn't do anything.
I'm like, I have a snapshot of Google from a 2023.
Just sits in the corner of my house.
It does.
Just download it one day.
It's like an art piece.
Dude, who's having?
How fast do you think the internet grows every day?
Oh, that's a good one.
Well, you got to think also of like how many things get removed.
But there's probably a lot more being added at the same time.
I don't know, man.
That's a good question.
The economy bill or just building websites?
Yeah, or just uploading stuff?
That's true.
Because that probably happens a lot.
Video content.
What do you think YouTube grows every day?
Storage-wise.
Oh, man.
I don't know.
And how do you fucking price that out?
How is a company do you like scale that?
They must have just...
Dude, we're really getting into...
We're getting into it out.
Yeah, I guess because they're doing it.
And it's like, when have you ever seen Google or YouTube
or Facebook being like, today you can't upload anything.
We're running out of space.
They must have been.
They probably just have warehouses after warehouses
after warehouses of servers.
Just on reserve.
Yeah, that they still probably have plenty of room to grow.
But at the same time, as we move further into the future,
there's better ways to compress data.
So like...
We have ways of making data smaller,
even though it's the same kind of data.
Which it's funny to say those things
because I have no idea.
It's like thinking about lightning striking
and why that happens.
Like, how is that possible?
How are people...
How does someone invent this?
Like a phone.
Dude, there's so much shit we just have no idea
that we rely on.
Yeah.
Dude, there's an old Joe Rogan bit talking about that.
It's like...
If the 1% of people die
that know how to invent and make stuff like this,
everyone becomes cavemen again.
Dude, what if our farmers die?
Oh, man.
We're screwed.
Thankfully, I feel like we have enough automation
in place that we could probably figure that one out.
It's probably not no addition on the farmers.
We need them.
Doug and Ron.
But I think that farming...
It can't be...
It's probably complex, but there's...
People have been doing it for thousands and thousands
and thousands of years.
So the common man has been able to figure it out
as opposed to creating a server board from scratch.
Like, how would you...
That's impossible.
That's what I'm saying.
How would you know?
Even if you had all the right things on a table.
If you have the machinery, just push some buttons.
Yeah.
Be like, I'm done.
No, I fucking know.
But we wouldn't have any...
Yeah, I don't know.
It's weird.
Because the thing of Benjamin Franklin
has hundreds of patents.
Here's the common man.
But also back then...
Here's an argument always getting...
Different time.
That's one side of the argument, but it feels like
there was a time in humanity.
Humanity.
Human history.
Yeah.
So, keep going.
Okay, all right, Ty.
I appreciate the support.
Well, I struggled to his brain fart.
I also hate that phrase.
Brain fart.
I hate that phrase too.
It sounds like the first piv first.
Yeah, and I said it.
Said it like the fucking dork I am.
Just saying fucking brain fart.
Every time I hear it, I go, it's just a cringey phrase.
Yeah, it's like what a second great teacher would say,
when someone doesn't know the answer to a question.
Brain fart?
Oh, jump out of window.
What do you eat biscuits and gravy for breakfast?
You fucking sl...
No, blob?
It's almost a slut.
Whoa, dude.
That doesn't make sense.
I'm slutty for biscuits and gravy.
Yes, went deep on that one.
It's getting better than from a bird.
But that though.
Just a second great.
No, what just came out of you right now?
The explosion of calling a teacher,
a secretary teacher, a slut over biscuits and gravy.
Yeah.
I don't know, dude.
Just like, I keep referencing comics in this fucking podcast.
I feel like such a simp, but Mark Norman,
listening to recently talking about how he'll get to a point
in just his day to day where he has to say something like
outlandish to just get rid of the boredom for him.
Because he feels like life starts.
I get that sometimes.
I want to say an outrageous thing just because I feel like
either I'm creating it or the space around me is like,
there's nothing popping.
It impacts your environment.
Yeah, and then but...
Must you just say it in a room?
To his point, he's saying like,
I don't want to do it half a time,
but I just, I do it in a meeting and I'm like, oh fuck.
Yeah.
Like you just want to remember.
Yeah, dude.
That slut thing that I just did feels very much like that.
Or like I say it because in my head I'm like,
that sounds so much funnier.
And then like, fuck what I say that.
But anyway, it's a millions of listeners around the world.
Yeah, there's so many people listening.
So essentially if like we were to dwayne the rock Johnson
and Jack Black combined, all the people that follow them,
sorry for that.
That was a good sign.
Yeah, we heard a thought.
You were comparing us to dwayne the rock and Black Jack.
Black Jack?
Jack Black's altering.
Black Jack.
He's not even that funny, but the way it came off.
I didn't even check.
I don't know if I would have even noticed that.
You didn't point it.
Man, you got to pay more attention, man.
You'd be saying that shouldn't public.
I'm sleep deprived, dude.
It just leaks out of my face.
All right, insomnia stuff or just what?
I work getting up early.
Yeah, insomnia.
It's a tough one too.
You fucking sucks, man.
Um, how do we get here?
Jack's also a card game.
True.
Maybe that's why it came out.
Yeah, you can defend whatever you said.
It's fine.
Just double down on it.
Start saying Black Jack.
People.
How do we get here first?
I said the second great teacher thing.
We were talking about how do we get to that?
There was a point I was making before I totally fucking forgot.
You were.
I'm feeling there was something coming out.
Uh, second great teacher.
Brain fart.
That was the first.
What was the thing before?
Oh God.
It's coming to a piece of shit, dude.
My elbow just went through wood.
Here to break.
That's good.
All right, we'll move on to the next thing.
We'll come back to it.
Wait, what was the topic that we were talking about?
It was the five million terabytes of data in the internet and downloading that.
And then talking about if most people died,
there would be like, or if the 1% of people who were really, really smart and,
oh, and then Benjamin Franklin.
Yeah, I remember, man.
I remember.
You go farther back in time.
There's an argument to be made that because not a lot of inventions exist.
It's way easier to invent stuff.
Oh, for sure.
But then why isn't everybody inventing stuff?
There's always like a 1% of people who continue to invent things.
Like Benjamin Franklin.
When you're saying if you go back through history, there's not a lot.
There's not a lot of, or there's a lot of opportunity for invention because not a lot
of stuff has been invented.
Like today, it seems it'd be almost impossible to invent something because there's,
well, I would, I think I agree with that.
But also as we progress, it opens more opportunities and vent on top of other things.
But I feel like the barrier for entry to, well, I guess maybe no, because then the
come, the average man has more tools that his disposal to invent.
Like the pizza box guy.
Yeah, it's true.
Wasn't a need for that because no one was delivering pizza back.
That's true.
That's a good point.
I'm now eating my own words on this.
Because for a long time, I'm like, yeah, I don't know.
It'd be interesting to go back and look through the history of like people who have the most
patents and see what the percentages of people, I mean, probably obviously a very small
percentage in general.
But to make something that no one's done in a world of 7 billion people, pretty impressive.
There's also a lot of patents that aren't really, like for a latch on a thing.
It's a small modification to something.
True.
And then people just make millions because it's not everything in a situation.
Like Benjamin Fringer invented the Bifalcos, which is pretty big.
He invented, I think, the male system.
Like the American whole male system.
Yeah, like the beginning of a centralized mailing system that people would go put their
male and it sends their place and stuff like that, which is awesome.
That sounds way harder than Bifalcos.
Yeah, a little bit.
The ones like shaping glass.
The others like creating kind of an, I don't even, how do you go about being like, all right.
Tears where we put all this stuff.
And how do people figure out where stuff is back in the day?
I guess if towns are smaller, dude, I don't know how people navigated anything, even 10 years ago.
Yeah, I mean, two different days of printing out map quests.
Yeah, dude.
That was like, it was that.
You started to have like the physical GPS as you could put up on your dashboard.
Like the Tom Tom's.
I remember when that was crazy.
Yeah, I'm like, whoa, this thing had different voices you could do and stuff like that.
Pretty cool.
And now it's on our phone.
Easy.
I don't know street names anywhere.
Oh, man.
Yeah, I guess I just follow a blue line.
Takes me everywhere.
It's surprising how quickly you would learn it if you turn that stuff off.
Like I did Uber for like two years.
I delivered pizzas for probably like four in high school.
Seriously?
Yeah, yeah.
Didn't know that one.
Dude, I worked some crazy.
I worked white cast, solid delivered pizza.
It was a paintball referee.
I worked at a doggy daycare.
Dude, I did so many jobs.
I was a work horse man.
I want to hear about that.
About me.
About baseball referee?
Were you a chatty Uber driver?
Yeah, yeah.
Which I hear people talking about how much they hate that.
I feel like I have a good read.
I don't pry.
Someone gets in my car.
It's daygando.
I have to immediately go fuck brain part.
I hate myself in the front seat.
No, like someone gets in my car and be like, hey, how's it going?
And they be like, good.
And then if they're like, how are you doing?
And you know, give them a little bit about my day.
And then usually you can see if they, after I tell them about my day,
if they're like, oh, nice.
Then we just stop talking.
Yeah.
But some people will be like, well, what do you do?
Well, it was half the time.
Most people think you're just an Uber driver.
At that time, I was a regulatory specialist at a chemical company.
So then like, it's weird to see the dynamic of people like, oh, wait.
You do that thing.
And then like, it peaks a lot of people's interest to be like, uh, you're two things?
Like people just don't.
Literally, that reaction happened more than not.
People like, what?
Two jobs?
Dude, I feel like Uber drivers just make stuff up sometimes.
Probably.
I mean, like, you feel like I would do that if I were a Uber driver.
Just like, no, they just tell, they tell stories that I'm just like, dude,
are you calling me a liar?
I think you're foolish.
I think you lie to a lot of people.
Just everybody.
Yeah.
If anything, like you could, it's like you're never going to see that person.
Absolutely.
You could say whatever you fucking wanted.
Yeah.
But it's, yeah, I don't know.
I learned a lot about people.
I would say most people will talk or want to talk.
That's got to be amazing for just improving small talk.
Yeah, dude.
You got to really go at it.
I really got to talk.
Yeah.
And it's funny too when you like, how quickly the relationship to grades when you start going
the wrong way, you're having a good time talking to this person and they're like, oh, you
just missed that street.
And then it just gets so sour.
Like if you, it's weird to see people losing money in a meal, you be in like the fuck are
you doing?
Damn.
Yeah, dude.
There was a couple times where there was like a family one time and sometimes like as
you have probably experienced the GPS then will take you to places, it just will misread
where an address is.
So it will take you like literally the wrong location across town.
And I took this family to a hotel that wasn't their hotel.
Like out of Milwaukee and there's like downtown.
Oh, man, that dad.
That was so upset.
He was like, oh, nice.
Like the most.
I guess not like straight aggressive, but the most passive aggressive like the disappointment
you get from your parents kind of.
In other words, like you fucking the idiot, not saying it, but you can read that in their
face.
I'm like, oh, this fucking soul.
Awful.
Just want to get out of the car.
I would rather them got out of my car and lose the money than that whole ride because
it was so terrible.
So yeah, Uber days, man.
That was, I mean, good money if you have a car to just do it for it.
So much wear and tear stopping and starting tons of miles.
I put like 20 K miles on my car in a year, which is pretty nuts.
So yeah, but one of many jobs.
We'll continue with some topics and we'll talk about some of the other jobs at some point
later.
There's so many.
I mean, the paintball ones, an extreme story, gone like a civil, not a civil suit.
We'll talk about this at a nice point.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was fucking wild.
A lot of labor issues.
Okay.
We talked about the five-million-terri-bites.
Helen Keller.
Now, hear me out.
She can't hear.
So she couldn't hear me out.
Right.
You know, she is obviously the blind stuff.
And Dev.
I think she could talk.
She could talk.
Yeah, yeah.
But I guess there's no, you don't really have a good, what do your words sound like when
you're blind and deaf?
I guess Dev would be the one that impacts that.
Like, you know, she learned out of hands, too.
I looked up.
I was like, how is she communicating with people?
She would literally, people would make symbols in her hand.
Or she would, yeah, because you can't see, so you can't sign to her and she can't hear.
Talk about a bad hand dealt to you.
Jesus.
One of the worst.
Yeah, dude.
And then outside of it follows.
It's a pretty bad hand.
It's Helen Keller had a demon following her.
Oh, she'd be screwed.
Oh, yeah, she's not gonna wait.
She can see it.
She can't hear it.
She wouldn't even make an attempt.
She wouldn't know.
She would die so quick.
Helen Keller and Idfiles.
Talk about Helen Keller in various situations.
How long she lives.
Helen Keller, I mean, in today's day,
clipped by a car real quick, especially if you don't have family watching over you.
Like if you're alone and you're blind and deaf,
the chance of you living long.
There's no way.
Yeah.
Something bad would happen, unfortunately.
But I don't know.
Like, I tried to think of Helen.
She couldn't drive a car, obviously.
That's out.
So she'd have to take public transportation wherever she went.
That sounds worse.
Right.
You have no idea where anything like...
You can talk to people.
You can't hear them.
You can't see them.
You probably get robbed a bunch if you're in a city.
Oh, God.
Yeah, dude.
There's a dark one right there.
What were you gonna say about this?
Oh, she...
Remember when we were a while ago, we were talking about...
If you're in a relationship with a blind person
and they have to feel your face.
There would be a moment...
First of all, do we know that that happens?
Is that something that might have been Hollywood
that kind of propped that image to us?
Because I just think that blind people feel people's faces.
Like a family guy, Cousin.
Where do they do that?
I've seen many movies once again, not a good fact-based for this,
but where they feel people's faces and they're like,
oh, that's a face.
But if they, if you're disgusting, ugly person, they're like,
oh, God, what am I feeling?
Feels like someone's elbow mixed with a fuck in me.
But I was reading about her
and the way she communicated.
She would do palms, but then she would also feel people's lips
when they were talking to her.
Really?
Yeah.
Which...
It's kind of...
It's amazing that you could figure out words
that they're sane by putting your hand down.
I can't even read lips.
I mean, obviously, I don't need to, so I can't.
But...
Right.
Like the level of a deaf ability to...
You probably could.
If Helen Keller could do it.
She was also super smart, wasn't she?
I don't know.
I just want to know about how she communicated with people.
She could have been a PhD, I don't get the fuck.
I just want to know...
Yeah.
That sounds impossible.
But also Braille sounds impossible, so...
Braille, I could get more behind.
I guess it's shapes of things.
So I guess lips make sense, but if you like,
lips could be very different.
I feel like there's like four lip formations for all words.
I just feel like...
What did you do with that?
I just feel like there's not a lot of lip formations.
Why?
I feel like, I don't know, there's you...
You pinch your lips.
You open them.
But when you're sane stuff,
I'm just going to start feeling my lips when I talk.
I guess I don't know.
But like, who...
I don't know.
The point of this story is that I don't...
It sounds almost fake, but obviously,
I guess it's real of her communicating.
We know of her probably because of her academic achievements
or inventions or something.
I've heard her name many times before.
All I know is she's blind and deaf.
She's a whole unit on her in school.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, see, I don't know.
That obviously didn't retain much.
Other than her being blind and deaf.
Yeah.
I guess, what if it was just average stuff she did,
but because of disability, we learned about her
as like a triumph of her personal.
I mean, I think the fact that she could even come close
to functioning as a normal person
is an incredible achievement.
Yeah.
It's pretty...
It's probably why she's famous,
but I feel like she was also smart.
Probably.
LAUGHTER
This is a great educated take on Helen Koot.
We're just spending facts here.
Here at this medical advice factual based podcast,
watches get sued immediately after saying that.
OK.
Being tarred and feathered, I just have that written down.
What about that?
Was it just a brief period in time
where people were doing that?
Was tar not a round for a long time?
Was tar newer invention?
Wouldn't that just burn insanely bad?
Yeah, oh yeah.
Yes.
You literally get third degree burns all over your body,
and then back in those days,
they probably don't have a chemical solvent to just...
The feather, you don't really need the feathers
to add that humiliation.
It's pretty horrible.
You do, though.
Before the feathers.
I mean, if you just leave the tar, it's kind of racist.
It's fair.
Yeah.
You don't want to be racist when you're
tar and feathering someone.
But what prompted that, I remember now,
I saw a picture from like,
you know, it was a picture
of a photograph.
So it had to be, I don't know when the camera was made,
but probably like, 1800s, someone got tarred and feathered.
It was walking into like a hospital,
like people like walking in,
just everything covered.
What do you do after you get...
Is your skin just gone?
Dude, if you get covered in like boiling tar,
yeah.
Do they drop you on a vat of tar?
No, they just take like a paint on you.
They just take a bucket and dump it over your head.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
And then...
So once again, yes.
It's one of probably one of the,
I mean, not comparing medieval times with top off
this is the last time, but like, they had some bad torture.
That one's pretty bad for still,
that was around like in the past couple hundred years.
I feel like it's always meant to talk about
in a joking context now.
I never thought about how horrible that is.
Oh yeah.
I mean, you gotta think once again,
you go a little bit farther back to,
you probably don't have a chemical solvent to get rid of that.
So like nowadays, even with the chemical solvent,
say it gets rid of the tar under that layer of tar,
you just have open just wound all over.
So you're just dumping chemical solvent into that
after it gets rid of the tar.
And then you probably just die from shock.
Like most people that get deep burned
are the most recent tar and feathering was.
That'd be a good one to look up.
But also like, who's doing that?
Oh, look at him.
Yeah, do you fucking check that out?
Cause I kinda wanna know.
Probably some college kids.
Oh my God.
Just like fucking some weird, frat hazing thing.
Were they tarred and feathered somebody?
I think that stuff started around like,
this is a total guess.
But when Britain was still here
and we were like around the Revolutionary War,
first result, June 2020.
No way.
Jesus Christ.
No, who was it?
What's the situation, man?
Even the news.
Oh my God.
Oh wait.
This can't be right.
Why?
Oh, there's some horrible pictures.
Oh God.
T. I can't imagine what that brought up
in terms of Google images.
All right, all this says,
June 2020, multiple graves and memorials
to Confederate soldiers were tarred and feathered.
So not people.
Okay.
That's misleading.
But also just, God, this guy looks rough.
How's it like,
Burton victim from being tarred feather?
Oh God.
The skin's like peeling off.
Yeah.
But I think, I mean,
the first time I ever remember hearing about that stuff
was when we were doing like history units
on Revolutionary War,
all the old wars that kind of like started off in this country.
There was like politicians being tarred and feathered.
Talk about a crazy like,
if someone was just a tarred feather as Senator today,
and people were like,
yeah, deserved it.
That's pretty wild.
Dude, that's a good way to keep politicians in check.
Dude, we've talked about this multiple times.
How like the government is all powerful.
But you look at like,
communist places where every time the leader eventually
gets killed by the people,
most times not every time.
The people like Gaddafi Saddam Hussein,
like the people will literally come together
and just bust into a palace and hang them
in the middle of the square.
I feel like it's just the organization
of the people is lagging the government.
So the government will have power for a certain time.
Yeah.
Once people catch up,
they try to stay together.
If it ever comes down to it,
people tend to be like,
no, we're getting rid of this evil,
like right now, in the most absolute way.
Yeah.
There's a fucking video of,
which it's kind of fucked.
Saddam Hussein being hung.
And even to the last minute,
where they're dragging him into the square
wherever they're hanging him.
He's like, some guys yelling, some shit.
He's like, I think he's just as fuck you.
Like, Saddam Hussein does?
Yeah, he's like,
in my head, I imagine someone would be like,
no, don't kill me.
He's just like, go fuck yourself.
He's, yeah.
When you're him, I guess you gotta know.
Here, there's no way out.
There's no way saving yourself.
It's wild to see someone being like,
they're about to die being like, fuck all you.
It's, dude.
It's kind of funny.
It's a tough way to go out.
Just hating everyone.
Yeah.
He's also Saddam Hussein.
Yeah, he was also bad.
He already, yeah.
I'm more on the side of the people who hunt.
I mean, not advocate for people killing people,
but like, I feel bad for Saddam Hussein.
Dude, I want to, I want to bring some empathy
to his side of the story.
You want to crazy?
And this, this is kind of,
I didn't learn this until recently,
but, well, some have been led, right?
We all know him as like the terrorist guy
who telepaneled stuff.
You know, like his family.
Don't tell me there's a soft side.
No, not to him specifically,
but his family would be like,
the Rockefellers in America.
Like they're, they're,
oh, some have been led on this like, the crazy kid.
Like they're all like,
giant millionaire people who are like,
our sons just a fucking terrorist.
It's weird.
I don't know that.
Yeah, like he comes from a background of extreme wealth
and just was like, fuck America.
Well, I mean, we weren't, you know,
we were over there doing things to cause that
at the same time, but I thought like,
he would be from a family of also terrorists or something.
It's just a family being like,
yeah, that one crazy son.
It's nice terrorist family.
So yeah, just don't casually hang out.
Just chill with RPGs.
Yeah.
I have RPGs not been like,
just printed on the terrorist image.
Whenever I think of RPG on the shoulder.
Yeah, it's just always like,
in a desert, just someone has an RPG
and they have just like face coverings.
There's like always an RPG.
I guess maybe it's just the area of that image.
That's true.
The fucking government.
All right.
Also 2007,
most recent actual Tarn Feather.
All right, get story.
Loyalist group in Northern Ireland
was linked to Tarn and Feathering
of an individual accused of drug dealing.
Oh, that's all I got.
Some would copy you.
Like, I don't want to call it prison justice,
but some like local justice.
Seems like off the books kind of job.
Yeah.
Like people taking care of their own.
But at the same,
what if it's one of those stories
where the guys just like selling weed
and a bunch of like,
and a bunch of like suburban dads are like,
we're gonna go with Tarn Feather this day.
Is that Irish accent there?
That's so bad.
I heard a lot.
I'm going to go to Tarn Feathering.
As worse.
More, more.
Hey, my lucky charm.
It's like that.
Fuck, cut that.
Yeah, cut it, cut it, cut it.
All right.
This is kind of a controversial topic
that I brought up in many spaces.
It doesn't get received well.
Zuz.
Okay.
What's your feel on?
What's your take on Zuz?
Yeah, I don't want to go on with any bias
before I get your opinion on this thing.
Yeah, I've heard the take of like animal science people
that it peaks interest in animal science
among people.
It's taken the positive view.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's good for kids to be able to,
kids and adults or anyway,
like a exposure just to see that.
But on the other hand,
you're imprisoning animals
that should be here.
Yeah.
It, I see both sides.
I definitely feel more strongly about the imprisonment side.
Yeah.
We're like, I want to cut,
this is what anecdotal stuff.
So, you know, this doesn't hold true to everyone.
There was a guy who was an animal science major
at the college I went to.
He was on my floor in my dorm.
And if he ever listens to this,
he's gonna know exactly who I'm talking about.
But he went and worked at a zoo
and was like the big promoter of conservation stuff
and got into a couple like,
not arguments, but just being like,
is it conservation if you're just taking these,
like they'll have the excuse of like,
this animal was born and it had no one protecting it.
It's like, who's feeding you that information?
It seems weird that you just find these two things.
Every zoo is like this animal would be way skinnier
if it was in the wild.
Which is, it seems like stories out of feed,
someone to be like, this is okay.
It always seems that way.
Well, it's like no one asked, but they say it.
Yeah, they're like, oh yeah, it wouldn't get cool.
It gets dyed.
Like, how do you know that?
You're just, you simply don't.
I've heard stories like the mother rejected them.
Like, how long were you following this?
How do you know this information?
Why did the mother reject it?
Yeah, like what?
She would write there.
Which sometimes that'll happen.
I know that that, like I saw, there's a,
I know what happens to the animal kingdom.
Sometimes where mothers will just reject their offspring.
Some animals more than other just by a default.
Like the naked mole rat, their offspring will literally
try to cannibalize the mother once they're born.
So the mother's fucking leaves.
So she hasn't justified a reason.
They're dude, highly recommend going and watching
like a small documentary or bits on naked mole rats.
Oh my God, talk about like Hell Spawn.
Like, do they're so, like,
they're about something coming in the world so evil
that it just attacks its mother.
Really?
Yeah, dude.
So much that the mother's like, no dude,
I'm out, I just leaves the fucking nest.
And then they live.
They're so mean, they just live in this world.
So anyway.
People have those as pets.
Yeah, yeah, they do.
Geez.
No, fuck it up.
Maybe you can like condition them though.
Like raise them to be good naked mole rats.
Go against their inner evil.
So I've video recently of a crane in a nest
and it's fucking sad, dude.
It, there's like three babies in the nest
and it has decided that if all three babies,
like it can't provide enough food for all three babies.
So it just throws one out of the nest.
Oh my God.
Like super high.
Just cut it off.
Just picks it up.
Does it even sugarcane?
Yeah.
Cause it's like, if I don't do this, all of them will die.
It's crazy to see that calculation in a bird.
Of being like,
Oh, I think it picks.
I think it picks out random.
So I can get fucking socks.
Dude, I feel like it probably does.
Yeah.
It takes a little evaluation.
There's a decision made in that bird's brain
of being like, which one do I like the least?
Just pick something, throws it off a fucking,
the whole thought of animals deciding things.
Yeah, dude, just bananas.
Dude, there's still arguments out there
that like animals are like,
I know that we're pretty crazy in comparison
to other animals and what we can do.
But dude, it's like,
people still believe that animals don't have emotions.
Which is fucking so crazy to me.
Dogs totally do.
That's one of the most direct examples,
but like a lot of it's propaganda
for like meat production.
So we can like dehumanize like cows and pigs.
Some of those animals are way smarter.
Like pigs have an intelligence level of like a six year old.
Like they can do math.
Yeah, pigs are extremely intelligent.
And we're very smart.
And have extremely like deep emotional responses.
And we like torture and slaughter them.
And terrible, terrible ways.
This is how it's weird.
I don't know where we're going with this though.
Zeus.
So anyway, I feel like the zoo, big zoo,
is feeding us a bunch of lies about how like,
this is what they needed.
Because do you think about before humans were here,
animals didn't need us?
They were fine.
Yeah, they were doing everything fine.
But you know, I mean animals also don't take care of their own
as much as humans do.
Like we, we compensate for, I don't know if that's true.
Like what do you think of?
I mean, you just talked about a bird that just dropped the kid off the nest.
Like human, what do you think?
Birds are almost dinosaurs to me.
Yeah.
You know, like I grouped them into like,
alligators, crocodiles, reptilians.
Like the more you get mammalian, mammalian,
cows, monkeys, they tend to take care of their kids.
Like for the whole thing, mom and dad,
I know some animals won't have,
though, you know, the dad will go and keep fucking other shit,
find other mates, but there's a lot of examples of like,
companionship between the mother and the father,
raising their offspring and taking very good care of them.
So, now monkeys, I think I mentioned this last one,
that feels wrong to see a monkey in a cage.
Yeah, because it looks like it's just, it's a person in there.
Three cores of the way to a person.
We're like, huh, this is so strange.
Or like I've seen videos where like a pregnant woman will go
to a zoo and be like up against the glass and the monkey will go
and, or it's typically a gorilla.
We'll go and get its child to show the mom, it's child.
I'm be like, this is my baby.
It's fucked, dude.
They understand on the level that's like,
oh my god.
Yeah.
And they react to magic tricks you ever seen that?
Yeah, we're like, oh my god.
Oh my god.
That monkey freaks out.
I'm telling you, we're gonna like, with a lot of things.
We should draw the line of mammals.
Don't cage mammals.
But everything else just gets fucked.
Yeah, it's cats.
I'm like cats.
Oh, fuck you, I love cats, dude.
Cats rule, man.
There's so much worse than dogs.
Now emotionally, they just don't give a shit.
We can agree to disagree, but I think you're very wrong.
Oh shit.
I grew up with cats.
And I truly believe.
It's tough to hear me out.
Hear my point on this.
I was kind of in a similar boat as you until I was like 13.
And my parents got cats, because most of the times
when I went to a friend's house where they had cats,
the cats like off in the distance,
hiding under a bed, anti-social, it hisses at you.
Like, you know, it's like, why do you have this thing?
This thing hates everyone in the house.
It's like socks.
Yeah.
Then we got our own cats and raised,
like my family's very loving and caring.
They end up like dogs.
Like they literally come over to you.
They roll over, they want to be pet.
They come and like chill with you.
They literally act.
Yeah.
And here, this is the point I'm trying to make.
We raise dogs in a certain way, but we don't cats.
And I think that's where the stigma comes from.
Ah, man, cats suck.
It's because we see them as this thing that's like
anti-social and doesn't want to be loved.
When in all actuality, they're way more similar
to dogs in that sense, where they want that companion.
And they want to be pet and they want to lay
and they want to play with you.
Like, I've learned that from growing up with them.
They're like, oh, fuck, change my mind entirely.
Yeah.
Yeah, I promise you.
It's real.
I mean, the way you just described that,
you basically like the best cat is a dog.
But I'm saying that the dog is the dog
because of the care you give it.
Because of the care that we give dogs
and the stigma we expect from dogs of like,
this is man's best friend, you know, the saying,
you don't say that about cats.
We put that pressure in that animal, not on cats.
We go, just does what it wants, you know,
there's no control there.
It doesn't love you.
It's just there because you feed it.
And when you apply that logic to it, you'll get that.
I'm telling you from an experience of living with them.
Where we got the cats and like,
it's just gonna go hide under a bed all day.
And then it did the polar opposite.
So, but that's just my two cents.
It's your opinion.
And I don't wanna, I can see where you're coming from.
Because I've seen the situation from like,
why would you have this thing?
So, anyway.
Did you have dogs growing up?
I had a dog.
Okay, so yeah, nobody's there.
I mean, I don't hate cats,
but I just, dogs are so much better.
Like I would have a cat probably.
It's also dude.
I'm like, trying to sell you cats now.
But the convenience of a cat, that, oh man.
It's best you can leave them alone.
Literally, they go to the bathroom by themselves.
They just know how to do it.
Yeah, do as kittens, we had, that's awesome.
It's so fucking sick.
Where you, like my parents just got a dog
in the past two years, a little chihuahua.
It's like a, a mutts, so he's like a little thicker chihuahua.
But like, you gotta take it on walks,
fucking three times a day.
Poops, you gotta pick up poop.
Fucking, it needs to go out.
Like you gotta get that thing to work.
Otherwise it just gets fat.
Yeah.
Yeah, I can't get fat too.
Don't get me wrong.
But the maintenance required is just like zero
on those things.
So anyway, we've gone so far on this topic
of dogs versus cats.
Audience, you let us know in the comments.
What dogs are cats or cranes?
It's just gonna be, dude, just fire it.
Fucking sane, some wild shit, like elephants or something.
Oh, the elephants are awesome.
I guess we were talking about zoo is,
the more and more we see stuff like sea world instances
were like the killer whales, the best example,
because there's the one that killed that woman.
But then that opened this can of worms of all of these
killer whales all over the world,
or any kind of animal that's used to like trekking
an entire sea over its lifetime,
that you put in like a 50 by 50 container.
And the killer, most, I don't know if it's other ones,
but I would assume so.
They're fucking fin on top, starts drooping.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Remember that in free willy?
It's fucking crazy.
I was surprised.
Free willy was on top of this.
And I've totally forgot about free willy.
Remember that?
They knew, they like, there's a droopy fin.
Oh man.
It's literally for that reason.
That was the first time I saw it.
I was like, why is it like,
you'll never see it in the wild.
Ever.
It's literally from the condition they're in.
Because they just don't, they just deflate
as an entire being like they're,
and then they start killing people.
Because they're like, let me out.
They go crazy man.
They're used to going thousands and thousands of miles
in like a year, and then you're stuck in like a box
like this smaller probably.
That's like us working from home.
Yeah, dude, we're the killer whales of this world.
We're essentially stuck in SeaWorld with our cushy apartments
and no one's forced any us to do that.
We're doing this only by ourselves.
So all right, I'm going to end this point.
But the point of all this is that I see more of that stuff
and I go, are any of these animals really happy?
Like these animals that are used to giant open fields.
I mean, you've ever seen a sea lion show?
Yeah.
Those are awesome.
Yeah, but like, dude.
Yeah.
You do so many dope tricks.
They're so cool.
But they seem happy.
But like, I think it's just for their happy.
It's true.
Do you want me to, I'll give you this.
They're happy.
We'll move on.
I won't fucking go on this point anymore.
Dude, I was blown away.
First, the man showing up.
It's the same thing with the killer whales.
They'll do this stuff for like,
they'll push them out of the water at 30 miles
probably with their standing on the tip of their nose
and they'll do like flips off of one
and then we'll like catch them in the water
and push them back up.
It's fun, crazy.
We're just making them do it though.
That's the thing.
We're literally, this thing in the wild
would never, ever do this.
And we're going.
It makes me happy when they just throw a fish though
and they just eat the fish.
Yeah, that's fine.
Feedin' it's cool.
Yeah.
But like, come on, man.
I guess my point is it's reaching its full potential
by bouncing a ball on its nose.
Oh my god.
It's like, fucking like Tiger Woods dad.
We got to train this three year old
to be the best at this thing.
It would never do that in the wild.
That's true.
It would be really cool if like,
we took these animals that we trained in zoos
and released them into the wild
and then their genes caused other offspring in the wild
to start like doing ball tricks.
It's like generations later,
their seals just like passing balls around.
Just in the wild.
Yeah, it's just like,
I don't even know how they got a ball.
Let's go to the plastic island.
Do like this is the fucking best.
Fuck.
Yeah.
So sealines it's cool.
Everything else.
Not cool.
It's the mammal thing, man.
Well, I guess killer whales are mammals too,
which is a weird one.
They're like giant.
So are sealines.
Well, it's what I'm saying.
Like when I see a sealine,
I'm like, oh, mammal.
But then I see like a whale.
It looks so much more like a fish thing.
Yeah.
That's weird.
And then there's like,
is a whale shark is still a shark, right?
I think.
I think it's still a fish.
Yeah.
All right.
That was a bit of a tangent.
So zoos, uh uh uh.
Oh, that's a tarq one.
I don't even know what I'm talking about that.
Way to just interest me in what you're about to do.
All right.
All right.
Throw it out there a couple of weeks ago.
We'll see.
Within the past couple of weeks, a teacher.
Oh god.
Got shot by a six year old.
I did see that.
Yeah.
And then I was reading more about it.
I'm like, how a six year old?
I guess you're pretty like functional at six.
But then reading the stories.
It hold is that's kindergarten?
Kindergarten for a great around there.
Shooting a gun.
Shooting a gun.
Blowback.
How do you even?
You got to think about, yeah, the some dudes on the school
systems are so fucked.
But reading the story and the teacher was like,
we got around that the kid had a gun.
And like so there's multiple, or like the students
were talking about to the point where both the teacher
and some of the staff knew and the teacher was like,
you need to search his backpack.
And an administrator was like, we're not searching
his backpack quickly after got shot by the kid.
I was like, oh, do that administrator is so fucked?
You really were like, don't do that.
And then kid has a gun.
Talk about like the fastest firing of your life.
Yeah.
Like, but it's weird.
How did he get it?
Parents not locking up.
Probably just parents thing.
It didn't give that information in the story.
It just read like what actually happened in the school.
Yes, it's weird man.
I would have never thought that young.
I feel like it's weird you say people were talking about it.
I feel like when I was in grade school,
I remember some room or like this kid's gonna bring a gun
to school and obviously didn't happen.
Yeah, I remember.
I'm in a pen with you.
Yeah, with bombs though.
Not a gun.
We're like this, which it's always like the kid,
not to profile someone, but in high school,
there's always a weird kid.
There's always someone who's a little off.
Not saying that it's a bad or good thing,
but something's off in the person.
And like you've been, it's weird because typically
in school situations, you've been seen this person
every day for nine months in a year.
And then like you can just tell that this person's,
you know a lot about that.
Yeah, there's something not right.
You can get a good enough vibe typically
in nine months of seeing someone every single day.
But there would always be like,
the rumor would be pointing out that person.
So it made it that more like, fuck.
They're what, oh dude, they're definitely was,
there were times where someone called in said,
I'm gonna come shoot up the school.
Oh my God.
But it never happened.
And it was, I mean, shitty guess it is,
it was cool because my mom would be like,
you're not going to school.
And it's like, fuck yeah.
Cause I'm gonna get like a week
of not going to school.
But it's like, that stuff was like starting to happen.
Maybe big as we were getting, that was like high school.
So, I don't know.
It's weird that a six year old did it.
So up until then, I'm like, teenagers maybe.
Are they gonna try them as an adult?
Well, that was the thing.
They're like, we don't know if we want to open up,
set the presence that we can start trying people
who are a six year old because their mental capacity
doesn't understand the law at all.
At dude, it's just the ramifications of shooting someone.
That's why I'm saying it's,
it's seen movies and happens all the time.
It sounds, yeah.
It sounds fucked up, but it's like,
that is the parents fault.
Like, absolutely.
You know, like how a six year old dude,
you're so underdeveloped.
You have no fucking clue what's going on.
The fact that it, I'd say it's 90% of the parents fault.
Yeah, like I wouldn't, I don't know.
I wouldn't put any like, oh God, listen vomit.
Put any like, wait to decision,
until you're like, I don't know,
maybe it to even at a teenager, man.
You're still very like, people should be protecting you.
You know, it sucks because we're so far away
from that perfect situation.
Negligence that get it going.
Yeah, and gross negligence.
Gross negligence also that a kid would get to the point,
a six year old would go, I'm gonna shoot my teacher.
Oh yeah.
That's like, take care of just how he was raised.
Exactly, man.
So it's with a support system that would never ever happen.
Unfortunately, that's not the case for the majority
of people living in this country
of like having good support systems, mental health care,
physical health care, like.
So we just have more of these.
But to see a six year old dude, I'm like, oh my God,
what is happening?
We're devolving into that.
Next you know, it's gonna be babies coming out of the womb
and just fucking popping the doctor in the fucking room.
Go go go.
Weee!
At the same time.
The potential's there.
I'm not gonna not declare that I guess.
Four day work week.
More country's are starting to do it.
Yeah, do it.
Yeah, yeah.
Have you ever thought about that in a serious way of like,
how I'm for it?
It sounds awesome.
But how would that make sense?
Like you're doing, there's less time of you working.
How would that make sense?
There's a 10 reforod, that was a big forward thing.
It's like workers are more productive in the time
they work if they work four days a week.
Really?
I think so.
Cause all right, hot time up.
Before you look anything up, I just wanna make that one
on this.
I'm having to forward like the guy who like,
assembly lines, which like was industrial work,
which like the 40 hour work week was like established
for that time because of those,
because it's like, it's mindless work.
So it's like, we require this many hours to get this job done.
So maybe he was, maybe he was against the grain.
Maybe he was like, all about the assembly line
because he could lessen work.
I would imagine you would make less mistakes when you're,
I mean, it's still very reliant on humans back then.
All the assembly lines stuff.
Yeah, true.
I understand the side now because I feel like more work
requires more like creative thought or critical thinking.
As opposed to in a factory,
if you have to do one movement for eight hours,
yeah, I understand the whole.
Yeah, eight hours a day, dude,
cause it just, we need to move production.
We need someone here doing this monotonous task.
Now it's like, if I can fix a problem in three hours,
why should I have to work eight?
So I see that side of it,
but it seems like cutting a day would just mean
that there's just a day you're not doing work.
But I guess if you're meeting deadlines, it would matter.
I think you just gotta deliver.
To run what you gotta do.
Yeah, stuff done.
But out of this, more countries are doing it.
One country is like actually implementing it now.
I don't know, it's probably one of the fucking Scandinavian countries.
So ahead of that.
Dude, they're all of them.
They have like, they have paternal care for nine months
or like a year.
So you have a baby, you and your wife get paid by the government
to just chill and raise a child.
Damn.
Dude, that's the kind of place where people don't,
six year olds don't shoot.
They're fucking teachers.
Cause you have the time to like actually pay attention
to your child.
Oh, okay.
What you got?
Forty work week sounds progressive,
but it isn't nearly a century ago.
Ford Motor founder Henry Ford determined
that manufacturing employees could actually turn out
more car parts by working fewer hours.
Nice.
As a result, he trimmed their work week from six days to five.
Awesome.
Hey, but for his time.
Same concept.
For his time, yeah, that's essentially what we're talking about now.
So go ahead and refort.
Dude, I'll take it, man.
It's all about the movement you can do in your time, I guess.
Towards the greater good.
I guess, yeah, I guess that was a progressive thing
at the time of 40 hour, five day work week.
Yeah, it was a shorter work week.
Oh, dude, you just got Sunday off.
That's so God.
Let's talk about mess on this topic, though.
Did you see that Arkansas recently repealed
the child labor laws?
No, I didn't.
Oh, yeah.
Whoa.
What do you know?
Oh, yeah.
Literally, there's a funny photo of the sender
who signed the bill into a repealed the law or bill
or whatever, holding it and like 10 year olds and suits
next to her.
Everyone else is smiling.
The 10 year olds are just like straight face looking at this.
So what kids can just work now?
Yeah.
Now you can employ children.
Oh, my God.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
That's in the United States.
Why?
Why did they do that?
Arkansas, man.
They're just like, this seems getting back in the coalmines.
It's the time to do it.
Oh, my God.
I didn't know you could just do that.
Why are we hearing about this?
I mean, I did.
Why aren't you hearing about it?
You got to stain up the date with child labor law.
Oh, I guess.
Oh, no.
I don't know.
Why would Arkansas do that?
That doesn't spread.
I mean, we're old.
Who gives a fuck?
I'm just kidding.
Now, it'd be really weird to go go into a subway
and see like a 10-year-old working.
Oh, actually, dude, this is so fucked up.
There's more crazy shit.
In Wisconsin, I believe, they found like eight and nine
year olds working in slaughterhouses, tons of them.
Tons of places breaking the child labor.
Yeah.
And then there's been a big thing.
It's weird that that story about Arkansas
came out recently.
But prior to that, recently, there was, they're like,
yeah, there's these nine years.
They're just covered in blood and guts.
That's slaughterhouses.
That's, I guess, you know there's kids working on farms
slaughtered animals.
Absolutely.
I guess that's true.
It's just weird.
I guess it's weird to think of them
in like a commercial environment.
Yeah.
Where you're like, McDonald's.
I guess I'll step removed.
You just go to a drive-through when there's a kid in there
just like, has his lunch box up on the thing.
And he's like, oh, I'll take some McNuggets.
And he's like, would you like a go with that?
She's crying in the window.
I guess if it spreads here, as long as you don't have kids,
you're okay.
As long as you never pro-create or be able to family
for yourself, it'd be fine.
I mean, it's not like kids are being forced to work.
Well, that's kind of the thing.
That opens up the door for parents to be like,
you have to get a job.
Oh, okay.
You know, we're like abusive parents can just be like.
And then how does...
A little bit about like the good old days
when you just had a paper route.
People were just kids who made bank off paper routes.
You always hear about that.
That's true.
I feel like that's a glorified thing.
That's probably so.
Yeah, we're like, it's sound, it's sound always like.
Ah, neighborhood kiddie's throwing newspapers.
Just making a couple pennies.
Back in the day, it's a lot of money.
And then the reality of his child waking up at 6 a.m.
to go deliver newspapers to.
I guess maybe if you're just covering like a couple blocks
or something or a neighborhood, I don't know.
But I feel like that's one of the stories told to us to be like,
it was better when children weren't.
And it probably wasn't.
How old do you have to be to get a job?
You can 15, well, it depends on the place.
But when I was growing up,
if you got a work as per me, you could be 15.
Okay.
Other than that, 16.
Which I got one or just per me to work at White Castle
when I was 15.
That feels like a good age to start working.
I think so.
I think it's a good year to be like.
Time to learn some...
I guess it depends on your work.
Some responsibility.
Yeah, it builds some character for sure.
Especially if you grew up in like a good family situation.
Because it exposes you to the world.
I mean, once again, it depends on your work.
But like White Castle.
I grew up in a good family and experienced bunch of shit heads,
but White Castle, man.
The people that come to that place,
you just get treated like,
I mean, the people I worked with were fine.
And cool most of the time.
But like, I worked at a 24, 7 White Castle.
So I worked overnight at Graveyard Shift sometimes.
And the people you see from 11 PM to 7 AM.
Whoo!
I mean, it's a weird crowd.
It's just weird, everyone treats you like,
you're not human.
People just like, they'll throw shit at you.
They'll fucking just be like mad for no reason at you.
Just it's so, it's weird to be like that.
But also it's, talk about ego death.
We're like, you think you think you hot shit.
And then you go to a White Castle,
work an eight hour shift and you're like, I'm nothing.
You feel like you're in the cast system.
Where you're like an untouchable.
Where people come up to you.
I kind of want to try that.
Nope.
I mean, you can.
I want an ego.
You can easily apply at White Castle.
Should you pick up a White Castle site?
It's also, you know what, White Castle smells like.
It's a very distinct.
Come smell right now.
Dude, working there and just sitting in that,
you smell like it.
It never comes off, man.
You just smell like White Castle.
It still smell like it.
So this is how it's going.
Oh God, I've never had a slider ever.
And I worked there for three years.
Yeah, they're so good.
They just look so good.
They're so good.
They dissolve in your mouth.
I've made so many.
And they're just like goo that melts into a bun.
Hell yeah.
Oh, I've eaten their chicken rings,
which are they're just like chicken nuggets
in the shape of a ring.
That's weird.
Yeah, they're okay.
But that's the only thing I've ever,
and their fries, their fries are crinkle cut
and fucking slay hell yeah.
But no, I think everyone needs to work a job
at a young age in one of those fields.
Just to be like, oh my God,
people out here doing this as their life.
They're like their main income.
Yeah.
It's fucked up.
And the other end of that,
I worked at a doggy daycare where it's like,
I'm in a big room.
There's like an indoor playground,
probably 50 dogs on one spot,
and a TV with Netflix and a bed.
And you're just gonna sit there.
Oh, it's sweet.
It was the best.
Oh my God, dude.
Like I would show up hungover after partying all night
and just chill with dogs and watching Netflix
and get paid to do it.
That's perfect.
It's any other addiction,
but it's weird to think about like,
that one feels weird, isn't it?
Yeah, it's like I can't stop so many betting money,
but it's all about the rush.
Like it's not about the money you win.
It's not about the money you lose.
It's all about like the suspense of,
it's cause you lose the eye on me.
It's cause you win and you did nothing to earn it.
That's why it feels good, I think.
I don't know, but they're losing so much more
than they win.
That's the thing.
So they're just chasing me.
Yeah, I have getting that money,
but they immediately just put it back in.
And they always lose it all.
No one's beating the casino.
The house always wins, man.
What the hell is this?
Abdul Wally, I think I'd say in there, right?
Turned himself into CIA being falsely accused
as a terrorist to clear his name.
And they brutally tortured him for three days.
Whoa, during the era of weapons of mass destruction,
we gotta go fight terrorism those days.
You know, they had the Patriot Act,
which was like, we can now do any of this guy
was just when someone accused him of being a terrorist.
And he had no connection.
I was reading about this guy,
so he's just like literally a normal person who accused him.
The CIA, we think this guy's a terrorist.
So he turned into the smartest organization in the world
Yes, the central intelligence agency.
Yeah, I was like, oh shit, he's just a guy,
but he turned himself in.
He was like, I have nothing to hide.
I'm no one.
And they tortured him for three days brutally.
Waterboarding, like physical torture, like, oh my God.
Yeah, and it was just a person.
It's so bad.
When did this happen?
Probably, I don't know the day,
but probably 2003, 2004, pretty quick after 9-11.
I feel like we waterboarded a lot of people.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I've ever seen a picture
when they like do what it looks like in like a anatomy
of when you're getting water-borted.
No.
It's like, because whenever I see people get water-borted,
I'm like, I know that it's supposed to simulate drowning.
Yeah.
But I never really got why.
Because you have a thing on your face,
water's going a little, it's going over you,
but a little bit in you,
but they put you at an angle so that,
oh, it goes down into your nose.
Yeah, and so like, you have probably an inch pool
just sitting in the back that's given you like a millimeter
of space to breathe actual air.
So like, you constantly have a pool of water
in the back of your esophagus.
And like, so you're essentially drowning.
Yeah.
You are, but you have just enough,
whoever figured that out, genius.
Because it won't kill you.
I mean, you'll get, you know, extreme PTSD
and be just damaged as a person, probably, but.
Dude, there was, there's this book talking with strangers.
Okay.
They talk about terrorists and water-bording.
Yeah.
And apparently there was one guy who just,
he just knew how to like open his system.
Open something.
Yeah.
So it would just flow right through him
and he would just laugh while they were water-bording.
I want to just wasn't even scared.
I wonder if you've seen people who can like chug a beer
in two seconds, but opening their throat.
I wonder if he was, I wonder if he was,
I imagine he was just a party frapp, bro.
I'm like, oh, bro, I got this.
Water-bought me bitch.
Yeah.
Don't be watering.
Apparently he was like the most badass terrorist
of all of them, like the big head-hatch of guy.
You could just deal with the waterfall.
You could just take it.
You know he slamming bushlights back home.
He's just crushing bushlights.
Maybe, I don't know.
I don't know where it is from.
He's a Cuban terrorist, I think.
My people, dude.
My death from Cuba.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
A kin to this town.
They talk about speaking of the CIA just fucking up.
They talk about how Fadal just played the CIA,
left and right.
Really?
Yeah, just their spies were way better than our spies.
Hell yeah, Cuban blood brother.
Dude, it's weird.
Cuba was, it's also cool.
I want to go to Cuba at some point,
because they have, the embargo happened around 1950 or whatever.
So all of their stuff is from 1950.
They just kept taking care of cars from the 1950.
So you go there?
It's just all cars from the 1950s.
It's time travel.
Yeah, it's super interesting.
I mean, half the countries in chant,
like there's buildings that are just torn apart.
It looks like Detroit everywhere.
Oh god.
But you know, there's something nice parts.
With 1950s cars.
That looked pretty cool.
But we can go there now.
It wasn't like that for a long time.
Or you literally just couldn't fly there.
Oh yeah.
This is something that happened a while ago when I was traveling,
actually traveling to Salt Lake City a bit ago.
And I was fucking, have you seen this movie?
It's a Matt Damon, Adam Driver.
Forget the woman's actresses name.
But it's like this old French story about these three people
and their side of the story that involves Adam Driver
potentially raping the woman.
It's like in medieval times.
Never seen this.
It is so good.
And I washed it on a plant, you know, on a plant on a flight.
You're typically like, it's gonna throw something on.
Hope this is good.
Whatever's new.
Solid.
So good.
It's like truly, you see the story as the person on each side.
At the end, you really don't know who to believe.
But it's also like, they're both like nights that go to war
and they have like these, you know, the whatever battles.
Like jousting.
Gamer thrown stuff.
Yeah, dude.
And it's so well done.
And in it, there's a very brutal rap scene.
Oh god.
And on a flight, my TV's right in front of me.
Oh no.
And there's two people next to me.
And I'm just, they're just like, the immediate.
You just look at him like, sorry.
I'm just kidding.
I'm not gonna say anything.
Like, I'm so sorry for this movie I'm watching.
But the kids or the kids around?
No.
There's an extremely overweight lady and then a guy,
just a normal dude.
I felt so bad for the overweight lady.
Cause I like, she was on my left and her,
like she was kind of like overflowing out of her seat.
And she was like trying to not touch me.
And I, I wish she would just be okay
with her fat touching me.
Yeah.
Cause I, it was like, whatever man.
You're sitting like, it's fine.
But I could tell that she was having a bad time knowing
that she was like, kept shifting around like, fuck dude.
That's tough.
I know, man, I felt so bad.
But and then she sees the brutal rap.
And then she's probably like, oh, fuck this guy.
Yeah, it's kind of, it's kind of, it's kind of a fucking monster.
Um, but that happens on, I was,
the immediate physiological response that happens
in those situations where I'm like brutally embarrassed
for no fault of my own.
Where I'm like, I start sweating and getting hot.
I'm like, like, it's kind of, I mean, you wouldn't let a kid
into a r-rated movie.
Sputantly the fact that you can just play those on plans
when a kid could be anywhere.
Dude, talk about a wild person if like,
you have like a 10 year old soon as two.
See that I would probably,
it's a, like behind you, I guess,
I guess you should check your surroundings.
Yeah, if it, okay, if they're behind me,
I probably won't.
I've watched people's movies like four rows ahead of me.
Why, what are you doing?
You watching your own movie?
I mean, I glance at them.
Mind your own business, dude.
All right.
All right, dude.
You're the kind of people that hate them.
But no, if it was next to me, I definitely,
like I would turn it off.
I couldn't.
The worst thing to watch around people.
Yeah, that you don't know.
Yeah.
And that they just see you watching this
be like, hmm, nice.
It's such a weird feeling, man.
But it's like, I didn't make the movie.
Why do I feel bad about this?
Just a politician.
I wish I could just be like,
I didn't know there was gonna be rape.
I didn't know.
You should have just amounted it to the point.
Maybe funny person I was like,
he's watching the rape movie.
Get on.
Just get fucking like duct tape to my seat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fuck, but I'll find the name of that movie highly recommended.
That's, oh no, I'm recommending shit.
I promise you this one's good.
Just don't watch it with me.
That was so good, dude.
All right.
No, but yeah, you should watch it.
All right.
I'll find it.
But it was one of those ones that was like, you know,
the follow, it follows movie was definitely a like,
I love horror movies.
So it's a reason why I love this movie.
I went into not knowing anything and it just being a movie
and I was like, oh shit.
Good story.
It's magical when you can get like a group of people
and find a movie like that that none of you have seen
and it just turns out to be awesome.
Can you think of one that you've, nope.
No, not one.
Oh man.
Thanks for me.
I can think of like YouTube videos.
Oh yeah.
But we're talking about full goal.
So people are sitting for like an hour and a half at least
and being like, that was all good.
I mean, I watched everything everywhere all the ones.
Recently, yesterday.
How do you like it?
It's pretty good.
Pretty awesome, right?
Do you like it?
Yeah, dude.
I loved it.
I thought that was like, very powerful.
Very, very, very.
I also think they did a really good job of like,
as something's approaching to climax in a scene,
they go like it diffuses really quickly.
There's like this pattern where like,
it gets like really to the top and it goes to the next thing.
And it does it again.
It like climbs so close to the line of like,
whew.
And then it goes like down a little bit.
It was progressing at the same time.
Yeah, it was like there's like this gradual overall progression.
But then there's like these heights and tiny dip
and then heights and then tiny dip.
It was such an interesting way of like putting together a film.
And I just, I mean, the concept and the visuals
and like the whole battle with the,
when it got to the As part and their slam and dildos
and their ass was amazing.
Another movie where I told my parents,
this is really good.
And they watched me like,
it was okay.
Yeah.
But that one I understand because it's like,
it's like watching a movie and there's a sex scene
with your parents.
Not your parents having sex.
But a scene in the movie.
It sounded weird.
It did not have to clarify.
It sounded weird in my head.
A movie with a sex scene with your parents.
I don't want my parents to have sex.
It's casual, man.
Polyamory.
That has nothing to do with that.
Get your shit to get the same fucking words at this point.
But it feels like that same.
Like the butt scene in that movie,
everything everywhere else was.
I see in the same vein of a sex scene for parents
where they're like,
butts, dildos, what?
Like in their day,
anal is probably insane to them.
Do you ever think about that?
Where they're like like the thought of butt sex,
most parents are probably like of our generation.
That was,
sodomy is a sin in the Bible.
So in their world,
I mean, my parents grow,
I mean, they're not religious now,
but there's probably some of that so embedded
into their brain of being in like Catholic families of life.
That's bad.
It's weird to think about that.
But also weird to think about parents and butt sex.
Let's move on.
Good second.
So the fake ending spoiler,
but love the fake end.
Those hilarious.
So they went all the way into the credits.
Yeah, and then we got bring it back.
Yeah, so I can ask the man,
but back to the point,
movie that you showed people that impressed them.
I have one actually that happened not too long ago.
The prestige.
I've showed that to so many people.
Yeah, I showed it to,
that's my favorite.
I showed to multiple people that have been like,
that was good.
I only can go wrong with the Christopher Nolan.
You can't actually,
I guess he's ten and not being a hit.
I preached memento for years.
It's a good one.
And some, my friends watch,
I wasn't there.
They watch it without me.
And they're like, the movie sucked.
And I was like, damn, I could see.
So they're like, I didn't care.
This, I do agree is kind of a valid Nolan fault.
Then I think he overcame within her stellar,
but a lot of his characters,
you don't care about that much.
He does a lot of things more for the mind bendy,
twisty aspect.
Yeah, I feel like he suffers in the emotional realm sometimes.
I don't know about that.
I feel like he has movies where he does it.
He does his mind bendy stuff to such an extreme
that the common person's like, what?
Momento being one and tenet, I think.
They're big, right?
With Momento, they're like,
I didn't give a shit about the main character.
Interesting.
But I think of like, inception,
the whole Leonardo Caprio, his wife,
and her and the kids and him having that such like,
by the end you care about that character, I feel like,
Batman, I guess that's kind of story made for him though.
Like the story's already there.
Prestige, I mean, do when you see fucking.
Prestige is so good.
Like Hugh Jackman realizing that.
Fuck, dude.
The Prestige in my opinion is the most perfect twist.
Yeah, and that one was perfectly executed.
Oh my God.
And it's just dangled in front of your face.
Amazing movie.
So that's one for sure.
I have never shown to someone and then been like,
man, they're always like,
yeah, no, I've never, I've shown that to a lot of people too.
Yeah.
But other ones, I think I've like shown in their stellar
to anyone, but I was just washed and people already knew about it.
Yeah.
But every time everyone's like, oh, I'm so good.
Oh my God.
It's beautiful.
It's a gorgeous movie.
And everything about it, the soundtrack, the visuals,
the acting, it's like,
wow, can all this exist at once.
It's amazing to see that.
But yeah, I can't think of another movie that I've showed people
that I'm like, this works every single time.
I used to think it was signs.
It's not.
It's anyway, we feel like we've been talking about movies a lot.
What do we have for time?
Our 51.
Do like 15?
Give me one more.
Yeah, we got some, we got some more stuff on here.
Let's see, this is kind of controversial.
Way more controversial than stuff
we've been bringing up.
Talk, how do I write it?
You ready?
Yep.
This could lose us some followers.
I agree.
It's not a career disagree topic.
Oh shit.
Actually, okay.
Okay.
COVID.
Fuck.
So remember in the beginning,
what we were like, it was a bat.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then it was a penguin, which South Park made a whole episode
on about it being a penguin.
Now, and then there was like the conspiracy theory that was made
in the lab.
And those leaked?
Man, was it ever made in the lab?
The more and more stuff that comes out,
there's a testimony that just happened recently
with the X head of the CDC,
who went to the Wuhan site,
and there's just this paper trail of them
deleting the sequence of,
it was, we have now validated,
it was from the lab.
But they deleted the sequencing of the virus.
They somehow were able to recover it
because they're doing investigation,
be like, why, what happened here?
There's, I'm not a chemist,
but there's, or a virologist, I just say,
chemist probably not, but what the X head of the CDC
was saying on the sequencing,
they recovered.
There's like bioengineered receptors for argining,
which he said that those don't naturally exist
on this virus, so that we did something,
I've never heard this term before,
called gain of function research,
to mutate things to use for not good things.
So they're like literally bioengineering this thing,
so it could go to humans.
And before it could not.
And there's the X head of CDC's saying this
in front of Congress like a week ago,
he's like, oh yeah, we just released,
we don't know if it was an accident
or if someone just, if there's a bigger scheme of,
if we release this, then Pfizer can make a trillion dollars
and like we can force the world into this deeper pocket
of like give us more control over you,
because we're protecting you,
with whether it be mandates or vaccines
or whatever it may be.
And it's getting, the more and more this story grows,
the more it gets like, it seems pretty,
not good, just bioengineered.
It's, yeah, it seems more like this was not a like,
oh no, this thing got out, it seems more and more like,
why were we making this?
Yeah, that's terrifying.
Yeah.
So, I don't even know what to say.
So what do we do?
I don't know.
Like I guess it's good because we know about it now
and we have someone who was high up in power
being like, hey, you guys were doing something
that we shouldn't be doing.
So that's good.
Maybe more regulations in place, somehow, results.
Yeah, I hope so.
Some policing of stuff like that.
Like why are we, some virologist out there's probably
like does why we do get, well, it was weird
because that gain of function, verbiage, they're like,
that shouldn't be a thing anyone's ever doing
with viruses.
Yeah, it would seem like a task.
Do you think there's a redeemable explanation?
I don't know, what, what do I have no idea?
Yeah, what purpose could you have for like,
making something so transmiss to humans?
That's a virus.
I can't think of an idea why, but once again,
I'm not a virologist, there might be someone out there
like if we give it to humans and the killer whales
can get us sea world.
And they're like, oh, okay.
Yeah, I'm so good.
I'm good.
Then like, yeah, it's just weird
because maybe it's like a Thanos type of guy.
You know, control the population,
makes some more resources available for the human race
by taking out half.
Why didn't Thanos just make double the resources
with this finger snap?
Was that an option?
You could do anything with the finger snap.
That was the thing.
And you get all the things.
Like, hey, it could bend reality.
That's what I'm saying.
Just make double.
Oh my God.
Do you just think of that?
Do you just, you just be like, oh, fuck that move.
It's like the one Marvel movie I liked.
Yeah, it was a big deal.
It was like, we gotta stop this guy from this plan
that he thinks is like, this is the only way to save people.
Just make more.
Yeah.
What an idiot.
See, I kind of liked Thanos
because he was somewhat redeemable.
And Josh Brolin played him.
Yeah.
Like, can't not like him.
Yeah.
No, like, no, it turns out he's just stupid.
He's just a big dummy.
Big purple, or just actually evil.
He just wanted to kill people.
I mean, I could see more of that where it's like,
it's funny though how no one brought up.
And what if just Iron Man's like, dude,
can't you just make more of these things?
He's like, nope.
Yeah.
No, no, weird.
I mean, I can't hear you.
He's went all hell in color on him
and just couldn't fucking communicate all.
It is weird to think that the whole plot of that
is that he's gonna eliminate half
and not just be like, yeah, more.
Maybe earlier.
Yeah.
Shit.
I'm trying to defend him here.
Since you've been poking holes in the files,
I've been looking for more holes in everything.
You sparked a fire.
Dude, I can tell you were a little mad
when I just kept saying things.
You know what?
Let's be honest right now.
Let's break it down.
There's always a moment.
We talked about this before on the podcast.
When people identify, they attach their personalities
to things where they like something so much.
And don't hear me out.
That's not like my favorite movie.
I was like, this is a good scary movie.
And in context, watching alone, it's okay.
It's still, I think it still holds up.
But there's that moment when people start being like,
what, what, like, the thing that you like to watch
that they're like, this doesn't make sense.
They're like, fuck.
But then within five minutes of that,
I mean, when I was younger, it was different.
But I realized how silly it just gets more funny.
And then it's more fun to hop on the train of like,
oh yeah, this shit, there's so many ridiculous things
about this.
And it makes for a better time doing that
as opposed to me, honking.
I'd be like, no, you don't get it.
You don't get this story that I'm so invested in.
Yeah.
But I didn't, I liked it.
It was a good movie.
To think it was scary.
No, dude, I'll do that for any movie, even movies I like.
Yeah, I like talking during movies.
That's the hard thing too.
When you get people like you, me, and the room.
Yeah.
The gift of gab thing goes hand in hand with like,
it's hard to just sit and be with people
that you like to socialize with and just not say anything.
Dude, I love watching things with people
and just throwing comments out there.
Yeah, it's the best.
Unless it's like really, really something
that I really want to watch.
Yeah, it's fucking, it makes it that much better.
A good example of something that I love so dearly.
But when I will comment on the whole thing
and think it's so much of it, it's funny,
but at the same time, I think it's like,
one of the best series ever is Lord of the Rings.
There's so much goofy shit.
And I've watched, I've watched the Fellowship,
but it's also, the story is amazing.
I've read the first two books as well.
And it's, everything about those books, that story,
the guy who made it, who was a linguist,
who made multiple languages in the, like,
yeah, that's the world building of that thing is insane.
It's like someone, as if someone wrote an act,
like it reads like a history book.
I mean, not, you know, not in the interesting way,
more of like the, it seems like fact.
Like what the fuck?
It's insane.
The pages shut up.
Yeah, dude.
And then the movies were masterpieces.
I think, I think the age super well
and Peter Jackson did a great job,
but the whole time we'll be laughing about like,
shit people are saying or how gimme looks,
because he looks like a fucking doofus.
Yeah, when Sam almost drowns from like four feet of water
that dude, and Frodo just being a bitch
the whole time.
Like Sam, help me Sam and Sam's like, fuck the fun.
Yeah, I was carrying the whole thing.
And there's the whole like,
where were the eagles the whole time?
Well, that one's, that's an easy one to put down.
Because you should fly the eagles in there,
die at Sauron Seasome, and then you just take them out
with Nazco.
Drab a lot of terms on you, but yeah, you know.
I was late to Lord of the Rings.
It wasn't like a childhood movie for me.
Yeah, God, I was like, yes.
They're good.
They are good.
Yes.
I think they're solid, man.
It's also a good like,
we're not worse back on moving.
I know, dude, we just circled right back.
They're so good though.
Dude, I feel like I'm not to be all hips are about it,
but I feel like I'm truly a scene of file.
Like I've watched so many movies,
and there's so much good stuff out there.
I keep thinking that I've hit like threshold.
And like, oh, I'm never going to find a good one again.
And then I find another one like, oh, fuck.
It's insane how many original ideas can exist.
Yeah.
Because I would think like we would hit a cap,
and it would just be done.
Like everything we've kind of hit a cap.
Everything everywhere at once.
I feel like that was new.
It was still in the realm of like,
it was a new ish, like the multi-virtuous.
I guess yeah, that, let it.
I'm trying to think of one of those sawers like, whoa.
But it has happened in the movie.
It's nice when you get a refreshing take
on something that's been done before.
Yeah, or it's fun too,
because we keep having like stories that were like ages old
from other like parasites, a good example.
He ever seen that at the Korean film?
No, I haven't.
Dude, check that out.
Check that out.
Yeah.
Fuck, what was the original thought
before he got back to the movies?
Oh, shit.
Oh, a time out it follows, but that's also movies.
Oh, there was something before that.
That fucking memory dude.
Hold on.
Oh, we're talking about the COVID thing.
That's not gonna spiked.
Okay, we'll talk about one last thing.
Yeah, let's close on a nice light and easy one.
Okay.
Like, I just dropped the hand.
Like, how I get the calories are up 22%?
Because people suspect it's smartphones.
That's not necessarily one.
All right.
This is maybe not dark, but interesting.
Prostitution.
Okay.
So in most places in the world it's illegal, right?
And so when talking about something laterally,
but not drugs when they have fully legalized it
in places like Portugal and a couple other countries
and they treat as like a mental health issue.
Yeah.
Addiction goes down.
And, but so I was like, okay, maybe in legal place
with the prostitution, you know,
the kind of bad world that surrounds prostitution,
like PIMS and you're trafficking
and all the coercing people in the sex for money goes down.
But the number show the opposite.
I show it like places where it's legal,
human trafficking goes way up.
So it's kind of like a weird, because it's, yeah,
because it, in my opinion, and looking at the data,
it looks like it opens up a gray zone of like,
how do you prove that you human traffic this person
for sex when it's allowed here?
So if you get them to just say they wanted to,
at least like you've right,
or you like, you know, coerced them into also sit.
Oh yeah, I was kind of hard.
Yeah, or how are you, you tell they're not brainwashed
as opposed to it being illegal somewhere.
And then people brain them, it's weird.
But then there was also disparity between middle income
countries, not middle income,
but in the middle of how much money they have,
don't have nearly as much human trafficking
as places that have way more money.
And what about way less?
They need cover that one.
But I guess not enough to mention
and the stuff that I was reading.
But the reason the high money does is because
they ever request like women or men,
I guess it goes both ways from other places
as like an exotic product essentially.
But that encourages way more human trafficking.
Because you're literally going, I have this money,
go get me this type of person so I can have sex.
And then that situation is way more risky
in terms of like grabbing people from places
that don't want to come there.
Okay.
So the issue may lie in that as opposed to like,
this is so heavy, this is the heaviest.
Sorry man, I was reading this today.
I was like, this is so interesting.
Because in my head I'm like, that is surprising.
Yeah, in my head I'm like, if we legalize stuff,
the dark part of it, like cartel, you legalize drugs,
all of it becomes legitimate.
There's no more horrific wars against these things.
It's just business is competing then.
But then prostitution.
No gun laws.
What we talked about this last time, dude.
It's the one thing made to kill people.
So it's a weird outlier for me.
I don't know what side I'm on.
Is the difference with the drugs and the human trafficking
where there's like the drugs you're doing it to yourself,
the user of the drug, the human trafficking.
There's a clear victim that isn't part of the system.
Yeah, I guess there's more autonomy in that
for the person of like, I choose to do drugs.
Yeah, and you know, people can get addicted
and they can not be totally in your control
because you're in a situation that drives you towards drugs.
I totally understand that.
But I see your point in terms of,
Well, I guess so what you're talking about with the drugs,
I don't know if you also mean this.
Like, aren't there, there's places where you can go
and safely get a dose of the drug you're addicted to
to help you wane off of it?
Like, that seems like a very productive thing.
I don't think there's anything analogous to that
with human trafficking.
Oh, no.
Yeah, that's a weird one.
Because it's like a system designed to help the addicts
on the drug side if you legalize prostitution.
I guess, I don't know if that helps anyone.
Yeah, I guess that's the bad side of the drug side
because you can also see the market side.
So go into the drugs legalized world
but non addicts side of it, just recreational users
which is probably the majority of people
are recreationally using stuff.
I don't know how many it, I mean, yeah, I don't know.
But in the prostitution market,
there could be people who are addicted to sex in that market.
You know, I can't see, the only thing I can see
is that that's also like, if you're a prostitute,
male or female, it's your choice.
And who is to say you can't do that to make money?
If you wanna do that thing, man or woman,
wanna have sex with someone and get paid money to do it,
who might be like, no, you can't do that.
Fuck that, dude.
We sell our bodies to businesses to work all day.
Literally, our brain is part of our body.
Our bodies are part of our bodies.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like, why do we separate that one?
Once again, because I think it's just traditional values
that have been so ingrained into most systems
that are like, that's a taboo thing.
You can't be fucking for money.
And it gets a bad rap because it's been illegal
so then you just get like the black market version of that
which opens up the door to terrible things.
But to the gun point, once again,
that thing's made to kill people.
That's all it does.
There's nothing like that exists anywhere else.
Yeah.
But I keep saying butt, cause I keep contradicting myself.
I don't know where I fall on it.
Cause I could see it a little bit on both sides.
It's just weird that the numbers I actually show
that the more guns we have, the more people just die
from guns and tear like school uniforms have.
And a mesh and a scarf.
Yeah, our guns are going to die from guns.
People get shot.
And then people who shouldn't have them
get them and do terrible things.
So I don't know about that one.
Proc3, three separate things.
Yeah, I think drugs and drugs are the parts
that are closer.
But guns, gun is such a hard one.
Obviously it is because these issues are always talked about
and no one's found a really good solution.
Other than country to abandon them and not had shootings
at all, but then they have stabbings.
Like, which I don't know,
stabbing is way harder than shooting someone.
Yeah, like way, way, way, way hard.
So much more intimate, like you're in front of touching them
as opposed to like shooting someone from a far away distance.
You also can't like, I don't know man,
there's so much more physicality to like stabbing someone
than being like, it's easier to run away from a guy with a knife.
Yeah, and have no emotion attached to it.
Like if you had a machine gun in five seconds,
you release 30 bullets into a crowd.
It's like, no, it's a lot harder to connect,
I feel like with that thing.
As opposed to you physically entering someone's body
with an extension of yourself being a knife,
there's gotta be some like visceral feeling to doing that.
Oh, God.
Yeah, ending on a good note.
All right, before, all right,
you know what, I know a good note,
we'll go through the reoccurring stuff
that we need to talk about.
Pet pee is the term.
Yeah, okay.
Cause that'll be soft in the blow,
prostitution guns, stabbing, you droves.
Just that with saying this isn't that dark.
You right.
All right, first one reoccurring segment.
Did you tear up?
Everything everywhere, all I want is,
like I've got me at the end of the moment.
The scene when, cause the daughter is just like nihilism
in the body, like she doesn't give a shit about anything.
Yeah.
And the scene when she just wants to end it all
and her whole family is pulling her back.
That got me.
That was pretty good.
It was very powerful.
It's pretty deep, man.
And then, you know, they follow that with like,
her and the daughter and the father.
Yeah, and by the car talking about the whole situation.
Yeah.
I like a good movie cry.
It's good, man.
It's good to feel.
Yeah.
It's weird to say, I mean, men should feel things.
Yeah, dude.
Not to be this emotionally.
Men have emotions too, but it's, it's all,
because I don't know.
Unless you're in a relationship,
most social situations, you're not really,
it feels everything feels kind of numb sometimes.
It feels like, back to ending on a terrible note.
It just feels like,
I feel like this is just kind of common,
but like the far, when you're a kid,
everything's so like vibrant, like emotion, life.
And now it's like, the spikes in emotion
are just never there.
Other than a movie cry.
Dude, where you're like, you feel something internally?
I don't know if I, dude,
just unboxing a whole bag of fucking emotional shit.
But I don't know if I felt like deep emotion
outside of like movie stuff in a long time.
I'm like,
if you've been fortunate to not have family friends
pass away.
Knock on wood.
But only a grandma in the past five years,
but like no one else.
My dad got prostate cancer a couple years ago.
So that was, that was something.
For sure, but then he's cured.
So it's okay now, but nothing like,
even relationships with women, like breakups just don't,
I'm just, not that I'm not invested,
but it's a, after you go through so many,
it just becomes less like meaningful.
I've been in like, I don't know, seven or eight
relatively serious relationships.
And by like seven or eight,
they've been dating since I was like 14.
So like, and I have a pattern of like dating someone
for two years.
And just like since then,
date someone for two years,
maybe you have six months off maximum,
I'm onto the next thing.
This is the longest period I think I've gone
without dating someone, which is about a year.
That's good.
Yeah.
But it's like the last breakup man,
this is all stuff I'm probably gonna cut out.
But it was just, it felt weird to be so disconnected.
Because at the end of it, it's probably good,
you broke it off then.
Yeah, but it was like,
yeah, it felt strange because it felt not human.
Where I was like, yeah, I just want to end this.
And then the person was like, what?
I feel like I've talked about this before,
but it's just strange to be like not,
not having empathy, but not like,
I don't fucking know where I'm going with this.
Not keep going.
I don't know, it's just, it's strange to,
it feels numb at this point.
We're like, I've, if I probably went to therapy,
I could probably like undo this,
but I've become so numb to like relationship pain.
Because I have, through the relationships,
experience tons in the beginning.
Whether it be cheating, whether it be breaking up,
whether it be, just get through all that shit.
No, that's just,
well not literally, it's not like,
I have such a low expectation of a relationship.
Where I'm like, we'll get to a certain point,
we'll be great in the beginning,
and then it'll just fall off and become this gradual thing
that both of us are kind of like, yeah,
we just exist around each other.
And then eventually someone's gonna fuck up in a way
that gives you a reason to just get it out
and be like, no, you're that one?
No, I'm done.
Same thing over and over.
And I see it all around me in the same shape
with marriages, friends and relationships.
It's fucking scary, dude.
It's terrifying, I don't think.
Yeah, it just wears off.
With anything.
Dude, I was telling,
this is definitely getting cut out.
I was telling, you probably see some relationships too.
We're like, people, mostly the girl will be like,
we'll say things that are like,
obviously, they're like statements to be like,
I'm not attracted to my husband, or like,
we'll be hanging out and they'll say a joke
and then it should be like, ew.
Like that to like the person you're due,
all the time I see it.
I'm like, what?
What are we doing?
That's their life.
That's what I'm saying.
I see that a lot, dude, like, don't give me wrong.
There's some good ones out there
that are obviously into each other,
but it's people who've just like,
leveled off at this emotion of just,
yeah, we're here, we're doing this.
That's about it.
Oh my, it fucking terrifies me to see that.
I shouldn't say terrifies.
It makes me sad.
Yeah.
To be like, oh man, I think about it.
It scares me.
It scares me.
I said it.
Just yeah, I'm fasting that much time and someone
and then it just fizzles out and that, yeah.
The time I've had more of that experience in me,
but I'm saying longer than like 10 years in,
like you're married.
Yeah, son, you're just, any of kids,
that is terrifying.
You're absolutely right.
Because it's, at that point, you are,
you're locked up.
Yeah.
And the out has a lot more consequence.
Like, multiple people's emotions
on very deep levels of just hurting significantly.
So, and maybe that's, we're talking about this now.
Maybe that's why I'm just literally not dating anyone.
I'm like, no, this seems good,
but I guess it's life
and there's no other way.
I mean, we're at a point where we're in between
these things, like some people we know are in this.
Yeah, some people are out.
Yeah, but it's a weird transit, like eventually
we'll be the sad people.
I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't,
I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't,
it's like, is that the point?
You just gotta find someone and settle down
and have kids and have a family.
Is that living?
Do.
Or is, cause at a certain point,
we're gonna be on the outside,
we're just living like an old person's home together.
We'll just be like neighbors and an old person's home,
like, yeah, still doing the podcast at 90.
No, but I heard someone say, forgot who it was,
yeah, we go a couple days ago, whatever, it doesn't matter.
Seeing like, people in their 30s don't know
that they're gonna get old.
Like, in terms of physical as it's happening.
As it's happening, but I think that's just,
humans don't have, if we did have that capacity,
we'd all live our lives differently.
Oh, I know exactly what this is gonna feel like
in 50 years, but he was saying that
from just a physical standpoint of taking care of each other,
like when you're fucking old and can't move around
or do stuff and you don't have anyone around you,
life is really, really hard, like extremely hard.
I would like to think I wouldn't become that,
like I'd have, I'd maintain my physical state
to where I can move around and do stuff,
but get there eventually if you keep living.
You think so?
Wait, what do I guess what do you mean?
But like just, like people who need a walker or like,
oh yeah, you think so?
Yeah.
I told you about my 93 year old fucking great uncle,
he's like gone to the gym every day,
but what, what, he's gonna be 108 at some point.
Like, nobody died, but he still had his physical capability.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You either die or you're gonna get to that point.
That's what, but I don't want to, I'd rather die
than be like someone needs to wipe my ass.
I'd rather kill myself.
Yeah.
You heard it on the pot here.
But no, that's, most people hit the point where they can't,
they need someone to take care of them.
Like it has to have.
I want, if it gets to the point by an agon, immediately.
That actually, no, I'd probably do a drug route.
Drugs are easier and much more guarantee.
People miss their heads all the time.
It's fucking, imagine me that guy, like raise it.
Yeah, you put in their mouth
and there's a natural instinct that this is so fucked up
because, all right.
Side story full of nothing.
We were kind of cutting everything.
Yeah, this whole end part's gonna get cut.
I only know why we're holding the mic.
It's like a brain piece.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, it's some dumb.
It's like dude, check this out.
And it was a dude just walking down the street
with his wife's head in his hand.
Oh, God.
Wearing like fucking, like just some random Middle Eastern
country or something like that.
Not to prolly, but an entire country.
No, I don't.
But it was just like, he was just like ready to get caught.
He was just gonna, just done with it.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
It is scary to think about that.
There's like some of that.
No, it was it was a dude, his wife cheated with.
Okay.
So someone just like literally lost it truly.
And you know, there's, it's weird to think that there's like
an exception to some of that stuff in court, a crime of passion.
That's like a real thing that lawyers will try to like.
He was mixed in the moment in a, in a, like he had no control
of himself.
I wonder if that's ever worked.
Like, yeah, he just caught off his wife's head, dude.
Like he was just in the moment.
He was just being impressed.
Oh, he laughed.
That one feels calculated.
Yeah.
There's no way you're getting out of that one.
But there's an animal thing in all of us, which is weird.
Like I hate to think it, but I would imagine most people
have the potential to do that.
Could be back into a corner to do something like that.
But I caught off your own arm.
I mean, we talked about 128 hours, guys.
It's like saving yourself.
Talk about like in terms of like malice towards someone
of being like, man, I hate you so much.
I'm going to cut your head off and walk around the street with it.
And yeah, that dude was ready to just beat Don.
Yeah.
I mean, walking the street that's pretty.
It's like Saddam Hussein saying, fuck you to the people
who are about to kill him being like, I know what's happening.
Yeah.
This is all fucking over.
But yeah, I don't fucking know.
Well, that's a good way to end it.
I guess wait, I didn't know how to get on this.
I was a crime all months.
Yes.
It started with this.
Hi.
Talk about how you're feeling numb, dude.
That was, that was beautiful.
Oh, yeah.
Was it?
It sounded pretty sad.
Like how I didn't feel anything.
Did the, if you hear the song Jack and Diane.
Yeah, of course, by John Newn.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That line, it's so hard.
Like life, life goes on long after the thrill of living is gone.
You just keep going.
Can you just, he not do that?
No, I mean, that's, man, that's true.
That line just hit me hard.
I heard the song my whole life.
Yeah, it's like, it's such a like, happy tone.
It's like, it's like the summer of, what's the song?
The summer of the six, no.
The 69.
Is that the song?
I think so.
No.
Or maybe it is that song, but it's in the same like tune of that of like, poppy 80s music
or 70s music.
You're like, nice.
And it's about just like, you listen to the lyrics.
Oh, I'm so bad about that.
I think I've told you this before, but I like playing drums.
Maybe it is because of this, but playing drums when I was younger.
Whenever I listen to a song, it's very rarely that I know the lyrics.
Yeah.
I'll listen to it.
I like the sound of certain things.
And so not a lyric guy.
Like some I know, but most of it's from when I was younger.
Nowadays it's always like the sound of the thing, but there's situations I've been in one
more recently in the past relationship I was in, where there's a song called, Electro
Shock Death Trap by like, but it's not, it's just like an indie rock band.
The title's weird, but it's like, I got a really poppy vibe.
And I didn't know what the lyrics were at all, but it was like, this song, fucking,
rules, dude.
I think that the band was like black taxi or something.
The sentence that the girl I was dating.
And I was like, dude, check this out.
And this is like maybe a couple of months in.
And the whole song's about like, just getting into a relationship with someone and not
wanting to be near them, because you find out that like, you really don't like them.
You have a whole whole way to start that.
You're a slaps man.
Yeah.
And she was like, she literally thought I was trying to tell her something.
She's like, oh, that's tough.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And dude, because that's something you could try to talk your way out of.
And she still might not believe it.
Yeah, dude, there's certain levels of love.
So I guess the gas lagging portion is way better than that.
Dude, I don't know.
So that about when he, when his wife first got pregnant.
What?
He's like, I kind of just hope it's a girl.
Because yeah.
Because I feel like it's a commentate to be like worried about the teenage daughter phase.
Because that was that was my argument.
I was like, take a lot more.
That's kind of a deep thinking level of it.
Yeah.
Because I brought that I was like, what about this?
And he's like, dude, guys do way worse.
Guys, guys are crazy.
Yeah.
Guys come at most of the crimes.
Well, you think about the office that you were just talking about.
When you have the daughter, you're worried about the guy's stuff.
You're not worried about the daughter.
That's true.
You're still thinking about the changes that you guys.
Most of the tough teenage daughter phases because of guys that got this.
We just cracked the code, man.
We're the worst.
We suck.
We're pretty bad.
We're pretty bad.
Women are, women are pretty cool.
But there's, we're so good at sports though.
We're so much better by it, dude.
Oh my God.
We're gonna, I want to keep going.
I have a lot of stuff to talk about.
We're gonna keep it rolling.
Do you have to be anywhere?
Let me check my phone.
What time is it right now?
It's 9.30.
All right, we'll go on for like 10 more minutes.
I didn't realize it was fucking 9.30.
We had to learn how to edit stuff.
I just got to sit down and do it.
That's the thing is that the past three weekends,
literally no time to do anything.
It's just been time has been so little.
Anyway, I forgot what we were talking about.
Time is relative.
Yeah.
Just thinking for sure.
Something about men and women and men being in a sport.
Probably good about 10.
It's 9.30 at night.
All right, fans, sorry about that.
Danger.
See you next time.