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Episode 3 · 2026-04-08 · 20,854 words
Two friends dive deep into coffee addiction, workout culture, and random philosophical tangents while discussing everything from David Goggins to medieval torture methods. The conversation covers their attempts to quit caffeine, the ethics of synthetic diamonds, and passionate debates about biscuits and gravy being disgusting slop.

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[0:02] We live we live we're live and we're back and another fake problems podcast on a

[0:07] snowy

[0:07] You know Thursday

[0:10] Why are you so gassed dude just right up and down the stairs dude

[0:13] I've been sitting all day and then I was playing video games sitting more and then it was like

[0:17] Up and down with it I didn't work out before this oh

[0:20] Dude what did you do? It's going to people just kept calling me. Oh for work shit. Yeah. No, no just personal

[0:25] Just in general work and then like you ever end work and then just people just call you and just don't get

[0:31] Time to just like personal calls where people will be like hey, how's it going just to check it?

[0:35] And it ends up being like a two-hour call exactly. Yeah, and like I love those people. Yeah, it's like shit

[0:39] Dude, I just need a second it fucking happens man. I feel you I was gonna ask I was the gym

[0:44] But no, no, so that was just warm up reps over there that you were doing on the bench. Oh, yeah

[0:49] I'm fucking dude. I don't if you ever want to get a work on it's right

[0:52] It's right fucking there. I thought really I've been so bad for the past couple weeks with not working out but

[0:57] Like I literally have it right there so there's no excuse not to like I literally turn around

[1:02] It's like oh I have to do this now. Yeah, do you do do you do like formal workouts with yeah?

[1:07] I feel like if I had that I would just like bust out a few reps

[1:10] I'm a certified personal trainer to like legitimately did hear about yeah

[1:14] Yeah, so like I have like full structure thing with

[1:17] Progression worked into a whole program. Can you make me better? Yeah, dude

[1:21] I can get if what do you want to do?

[1:22] Do you just want to get like stronger and what every guy wants muscular and more strong? Yeah, yeah, yeah

[1:28] All the other dude. What do you follow this good content?

[1:34] There's so many things I want to talk about but this is I like talking about I

[1:37] Raleus right away. I love exercise physiology, but like what how do you do now? I

[1:42] I go to the gym and just I just throw some weights around I got no system no way

[1:49] I think dude

[1:51] You're potential you're like green dude you can get I get you fucking so jacked

[1:55] So you don't have like a split for a week that you want to have like a Monday lit you know anything no different

[2:02] I don't go consistently enough

[2:05] So it's like usually a Saturday I'll get like a two hour workout and that's

[2:10] My god what two hours cuz I only sometimes I can only do it once a week

[2:15] So just guy I gotta do everything got left and then run and then oh man you do it all yeah

[2:20] Does that frustrate you as a person?

[2:23] Dude I built so many workout programs for people and very curated to like what you want to do with your body

[2:30] How much car do you want to do it for free? I did I have only and then it got to a point like if someone wants one

[2:37] I'll do it but I'm no longer advertising that like I'd love to make you one. Yeah, I love to make you one because I know

[2:44] I like doing it for I know that you'll probably try to actually do it as opposed to doing like a week and never ever doing it again

[2:52] But also no strings of time if I make you one

[2:55] Don't feel bad if you don't I'm gonna be pissed if it doesn't work

[2:58] It dude

[2:59] I mean from what you just just described of

[3:03] I go in and I throw around some weights if it didn't work you would be in such an anomaly of like not getting fitter

[3:09] If I threw what I make and you like didn't get stronger or better

[3:13] It would be like what the fuck is going on the human body is so respond can you just like

[3:19] You should go further and be the guy who like wakes people up in the morning

[3:22] Can I hire you to just like scream?

[3:24] Maybe awful

[3:27] I have to wake up right?

[3:29] Sucks for you, but I'm like just some like just a fucking coach

[3:32] Yeah for literally no

[3:34] Kick the shit out of me

[3:38] Just yelled degrading things while I'm trying to get better dude. That's what I respond to I'm all you do it

[3:43] I'm negative re-inforge on the opposite guy really I hate that like when I wanted growing up

[3:48] I was super into lifting

[3:53] Why are we different?

[3:56] but a fuck

[3:58] Oh, I had one friend particular who grew up in a pretty a

[4:01] He had a rough upbringing like

[4:04] crazy like

[4:06] Me meeting him his dad was a gang member his mom was a heroin addict and then like eventually his mom was in out of rehab

[4:13] So we just have access to his house to party in all the time because she lit even we're like in high school and so

[4:20] He was like all about the negative reinforcement which even that phrases

[4:25] Wrong in technical terms in psychology. There's positive reinforcement reinforcement and negative reinforcement

[4:31] Negative would mean that you're moving an obstacle out of the way to encourage you

[4:35] So like positive I would ask I would be like hey if you do this I give you candy bar negative would be like I

[4:42] Remove this needle and your thigh if you do the thing which is an extreme stupid example

[4:47] So what I'm talking about is like fear of being like literally like

[4:50] Fucking bashing people essentially and until you scare them like you know, you yeah, I guess scares the wrong word

[4:57] But you either anger them or scare them into doing the thing from like

[5:02] it's like

[5:03] I

[5:05] Feel like fear of what you

[5:08] Won't get is a big motivator. Oh, I see of being like it's like like you see a wolf Wall Street

[5:15] Yeah, when he's given that speech and he's like

[5:18] You're gonna roll up next to a guy and see him and his awesome car with his beautiful wife

[5:23] You're gonna be in your shitty car and yeah, I respond to that shit like being being scared that being scared of becoming nothing

[5:31] Being not dead that works. I guess when I said I don't respond

[5:37] Like negative stuff is like that friend when we would go to the gym because we had a period where he was kind of overweight

[5:42] So I was trying to help him lose weight

[5:44] Okay, but I gotta be funny. Come on fucking pussy clown like

[5:47] Dude it makes me mad at the person not it like it takes my mind out of the lift every time like my focus goes to like

[5:54] Hey, fuck you man not like

[5:57] Bench this now for me, but some people respond to the shit of like come on

[6:00] You know what I think if someone else said it to me. I wouldn't respond to it

[6:04] I say it to myself though internally. That's okay. Yeah, see like it

[6:08] But the second I have an external thing my my attention just goes to that no longer the thing I'm doing

[6:13] But some people love that bootcamp shit. Yeah, like typical military drill sergeant being like come on you fucking fat

[6:20] I think there's a fine line. I like the intensity. Yeah, but maybe not like just

[6:28] Shitting up it can be intense in a positive way to it

[6:31] You like when you fucking got this you might like I like yeah, yeah, the motivational pushing you forward as opposed to being like you can't do it

[6:37] Which I I get both sides and everyone's so different so

[6:40] Different shit works, but I hate when people are yelling at me

[6:44] So you're David Goggins guy. I mean, I've read his book can't hurt me. Okay, you know, I mean he's a he's an anomaly in himself. I'm just being

[6:55] It's weird because I respect his like

[6:58] Calis your mind thing in the fact that it's all mental and he'll talk about even in his book and the podcast

[7:05] He and is like he did the first

[7:08] 15 years of what he did the wrong way because he was just pushing he was not thinking he over dead

[7:13] Oh, yeah, you like broke his body many times along this path until he's like what he is now

[7:18] Yeah, and like I feel like a lot of people I've talked to who bring up David Goggins are like you just got to keep going as hard as you can

[7:25] Yeah, that's I see people taking that message every single time from David Goggins and then they just that's how you get hurt

[7:31] Right easily I didn't read his book, but I heard him on the podcast. I think he said stretching saved his life

[7:38] Yeah, he said that he had some

[7:41] Hip lumbar complex stuff, which is like literally what keeps

[7:45] Everything in your waist and your lower back in terms of like all the muscles and ligaments there

[7:49] So it was like an a knot push can have I mean if you're just lifting and you're running a hundred mile races

[7:54] Yeah, your body's not really meant to do that it can but

[7:58] Shit goes wrong. So he's just doing years and years of like training in not a smart way leads to shit like that

[8:04] So he said stretching yeah, like helped him out, but once again

[8:09] Going to the mental part. It's awesome because he's showing like he was like a fat out of shape

[8:14] Dude got to this point where he was like running a hundred mile races ultra marathon and just

[8:20] I like that message, but people seem to think it's like just go as hard as you can until you break yourself

[8:26] Yeah, I mean anyone will miss interpret that very true very true, but

[8:31] Dude the older you get man that chicken be really will you talk about this a little bit less?

[8:35] You break it hurt when you're older you break a whim or you tear your ACL at like playing a pickup game of basketball

[8:41] Because you got to go hard at 30 oh

[8:45] Basketball gets me every time dude. I mean, I'm so bad at basketball. So I've never had that

[8:52] Yeah tennis, but I don't play like I used to so anyway

[8:57] Where we fucking what were you gonna open with oh

[9:01] Fuck

[9:05] It's alright dude so it's been going on the past four days

[9:08] I imagined nothing changed dude. Yeah, let's see in this last week

[9:15] You know I'm starting to do which I this is the first day. I haven't had any I

[9:20] Decide I'm gonna try I'm not drinking already. It's been okay. Well since getting drunk

[9:25] I should say but I'm gonna try to do no coffee. It's another big coffee guy. Yeah, I drink so much

[9:30] You just last time I talked to you 10 cups and 20 minutes or so that was an accident though

[9:37] But yeah, was that was at the moment when you're like I can't do it anymore

[9:41] You just I've had I've had a lot of moments like then the past where I go too hard with caffeine

[9:47] It's it's such a look at any drug right and they always have similar trajectories of like how people use them very very rarely are people good at using a drug

[9:57] Yeah, and so it's like

[9:59] Yes, you know, it's the say I

[10:03] The month begins I'm drinking one cup on Monday turns into two cups on two by the end of the week

[10:09] I'm drinking literally five cups of coffee and then I'll be like oh god

[10:12] I got I got I got to stop drinking coffee then I reset and I do the same thing over and over and over

[10:17] and it's I mean that one where I had like 10 cups definitely shines a light on kind of how much of a drug caffeine is to the

[10:25] point where you can be like fucked up on it like oh yeah God damn and then you know

[10:31] There's so much medical work out there that show medical studies that show like when you have caffeine your system

[10:36] It interrupts your REM sleep like it affects it and

[10:39] For sure caffeine is a half life of six hours. So if you have a cup in the morning

[10:42] It's still in your system when you're going to bed and then if you're drinking more than one cup you like

[10:47] Your your sleep's always fucked up like you have an experience your true

[10:50] Natural restful state is long as you're having a cup every single day

[10:54] Which most of the country's doing that right consuming caffeine to some form. I feel like most people have multiple cups

[10:59] I yeah

[11:01] Maybe I'm lucky, but like if I have more than a cup. I'm

[11:05] Zonged out of my mind. Yeah, I can't do it which I'm grateful for there's two they've identified two gene types that have two different enzymes

[11:12] Wonder just slowed to tight gestures for caffeine when they're fast. It's like my brother can drink like five cups of coffee and go to bed

[11:18] Yeah, some some people's bodies

[11:20] My room is zip through it and so it just doesn't affect them. I'm more

[11:24] Maybe a little slower than you but like I'll have a copper to and be like whoa

[11:29] Like it feels like it's doing so like you for almost half the time. I feel it immediately

[11:34] Yeah, so I think I'm gonna try to go without and see what like

[11:38] What it feels like and I do I've mentioned this before

[11:42] But like as I've gone older my anxiety's just gone up like naturally

[11:45] Really? Yeah, and the only thing I can see that's linear is like I've been consuming caffeine

[11:52] Since I was like 14 in the form of like energy drinks first like non-stop so many men and then I just never I have never stopped

[12:00] I've always drank caffeine. There's no way. It's good for anxiety. No, I mean it's it's it's it's document is being terrible for anxiety

[12:08] Dude what it does chemically to your body is just blast your body with cortisol so let's stress

[12:15] Yeah, so there's a book called why we sleep. Yeah, have you ever heard of it? I have not it talks about like

[12:22] What it does you go first though? Okay, I was gonna say because chemically

[12:25] You know we have all these neurotransmitters in our brain serotonin dopamine at these nosine epinaphyrin or epinaphyrin tons of right dude

[12:33] Yeah, they're always in there and they're I feel like the more good is good recall

[12:37] Oh, hell yeah, it's like how I agree baby

[12:40] Snural pharmacology damn, but um

[12:42] So coffee when you drink most people think that

[12:46] Coffee gives you dopamine which it but it does it indirectly so when you drink coffee all it's doing is

[12:52] It's blocking your endenosine receptors which are just the receptors that make you what I was gonna say they just make you tired right so

[12:59] And the more you consume coffee the more receptors your brain grows so then when you just stop your brain just like

[13:07] Rapidly taking an endenosine more often and then if you stop for a long time the receptors will go back to the normal levels

[13:14] So that's why you feel extremely tired and you have withdrawal and you have headaches if you just stop caffeine you're a habitual user

[13:21] But so you mix that with the cortisol thing so then your adrenaline

[13:26] Like your your your journals are always getting fatigued because you're just spraying cortisol

[13:30] You're blocking all these endenosine things and then dopamine indirectly flourishes because

[13:36] There's so much of this other receptor that don't mean just kind of has free reign. Okay, and it does so

[13:42] It's not I don't

[13:44] I don't know for me. It feels like it's not doing anymore good anymore

[13:47] It feels like it's starting to hurt me more than helping sure instead of getting like a little jolt and having like energy for 30 minutes

[13:53] Yeah, now you go

[13:55] I saw the the way the book describes is basically the same thing but they

[13:59] a

[14:00] Dinozine or whatever yeah, they describe that as like a chemical that builds up

[14:04] Yeah, it gets to a certain level. That's what makes you tired. It's like that plus your circadian rhythm is what makes you

[14:10] Yeah, fall asleep and coffee just like puts off yeah the adenosine, but it keeps building yeah

[14:16] So it just blocks when it like actually comes into your brain to make you fall asleep. Yeah, so it's yeah

[14:23] There those receptors are blocked somewhere to like

[14:26] so there's a receptor agonist and antagonist so like

[14:30] LSD is a seroton agonist meaning that it will fit into a receptor

[14:36] That's for serotonin so then like a serotonin molecule couldn't fall into there

[14:42] It just takes it and it it causes so and denosine is being blocked

[14:47] So that's what you're talking about you have that like overflowing the denosine molecules flowing around

[14:52] Then once you stop coffee. They just to the receptors. Yeah, and then it gets super tired

[14:56] It's interesting. It's weird that like

[14:59] It would be interesting to see it before and after of human civilization with coffee

[15:04] I want we probably got extremely productive because most of human history we're drinking alcohol because of water was so

[15:12] It was not not potable. It was it was bacteria ridden so people would just drink alcohol all the time

[15:18] People were drunk for the majority of human history dude the water was just bad

[15:23] You would die of cholera like all the time if you weren't drinking booze

[15:27] Yeah, I've always wondered that like if I eat a questionable piece of food

[15:31] Should I just rip a shot so it kills all the bacteria in my stomach? I wish I had the answer for that

[15:36] All right, because I've thought of

[15:37] I just kill it but it depends on also of like

[15:43] But that that sounds like what you just described though

[15:46] You're drinking questionable water so you've caught it with some alcohol. Yeah, I just don't know like when stuff is in your digestive track

[15:53] If you ate something shitty what you're saying is like in right away in combination

[15:57] Yeah, I just like slam it. Yeah, could once again have no fucking clue

[16:03] Later

[16:06] So yeah, long story short gonna try to be off coffee for while and see if

[16:12] That does anything. I mean the stuff I read you know every time I do something I'll read internet

[16:18] Just people talking about their experience and everyone's like dude. It's like

[16:22] There's always the extreme people who say you don't realize the life that you could be living

[16:28] because you're it's

[16:30] Another interesting thing I'd not to talk on this for too long, but you know Michael Pollan is no

[16:35] He's this

[16:37] He's a renowned journalist who's written a bunch of books, but he's more known for

[16:42] Being open and experiencing all kinds of drugs and he's he like worked for the New York Times

[16:48] And he's like this guy is writing his phenomenal, but he made this book and I'm forgetting the name but

[16:53] But we just write about his experiences with like

[16:56] masculine ecstasy

[16:59] Every drug you could ever imagine opiates everything and just like journals his experience awesome book

[17:04] I got a name, but in that book he said of all the drugs

[17:09] caffeine was the most psychedelic which

[17:13] Sounds weird. He said that sounds like a

[17:18] Touchestake it's it kind of does right, but this is also the guy who's doing like

[17:23] ayahuasca and masculine and

[17:25] What does he mean by he stopped it for he didn't do any caffeine for two months and he'd his the story he tells is that

[17:34] After two months he went to a

[17:36] outside cafe with his wife and

[17:39] They had some coffee and like a table

[17:43] You don't need the information

[17:44] I was confused

[17:47] What were they sitting at and he said upon sipping it it became

[17:52] He's like instant euphoria like you you had he hadn't experienced with any of the other like you had just done ecstasy at these like

[17:59] Things that are supposed to give you euphoria and felt like

[18:04] Just a level of heightened awareness that didn't come with anything else and then soon after that

[18:09] There was a garbage truck across the street like loading garbage in and just the sound like extremely

[18:15] It agitated him to a level that was like uncomfortable and the most interesting thing is so he goes home

[18:21] Right and he said he he starts to do some work and he planning going to a nursery later like for plants

[18:28] Think it's what's called right like a plant nursery. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think it's what they call right

[18:34] Nursery yeah, yeah, well, we're gonna go with it because it sounds like a baby thing which it is also that too, but

[18:40] Anyway, he planned to go to this this thing later and he noticed that his brain. There's a bunch of nurseries around him it picked

[18:50] He got to one and he knows that he picked that one because there's an espresso place there

[18:55] So like within having a cup you realize he's subconsciously. Yeah, your brain like the addiction works on that level

[19:02] Where you're like you start planning out your steps to get the next hit of that thing unlike any other drugs

[19:08] He's tried like he knows it was like subconsciously programming his day and he's like whoa, this is so strange

[19:14] I

[19:14] believe that guy

[19:16] Could get to that level of where he could realize how much it was affecting him. I trust me

[19:22] I highly encourage you to go like I'll find the book and I'll send it the link to you or just like

[19:28] Watch some interviews with them. He's super knowledgeable and really like

[19:33] similar to like

[19:34] That that interview with you and Mac are not you and Mac Harry Mac

[19:39] There's like a level of genuine feel from him when he's talking about the thing

[19:44] Love Harry Mac, dude, dude amazing if we ever get guests on this podcast, please

[19:49] The guy is dude like when you see a

[19:53] Human like that. I'm like, dude. We are so cool as a species

[19:57] Yeah, that makes me so proud to be a person and be like that's one of us that guy

[20:03] Dude, he's so cool. He's so cool. So you watch the whole thing

[20:07] So you know that he does all this concerts just fucking freestyle insane. That is what?

[20:13] He's just the dude

[20:15] You want to finish a point about the other guy first?

[20:18] Uh

[20:20] It was just that that he's it's one of those guys that coffee's really fucking addictive really addictive

[20:25] And he is one of the guys that it's there's no bullshit there

[20:28] He's been doing this for so long and experimenting with these things and meeting with all these experts around the world

[20:32] Yeah, like you know researchers in the field not just like fucking random people that like and he's gone and spent entire months with tribes like to get there

[20:42] A lot of tribes have these like becoming of a man or an adult kind of ceremony

[20:46] He's that involves some kind of psychedelic drug and he's partakeed all over the like he's also he's like 60 or 65 is an older guy

[20:53] Yeah, dude, you're just fine like us. Yeah, he's brilliant too when he talks man. He's so

[21:00] Articulate about everything that like I've never heard someone to talk about a trip or a drug experience in the way that he does and then

[21:07] Whoa, that's like that's exactly what it is. Yeah, so anyway, you're what are you gonna say about a very much?

[21:17] Tiz I

[21:18] Feel like anyone could just watch Harry Mac be like this guy is unbelievable

[21:21] But yeah, the way that he can do I saw it's crazy brought this up because I saw that guy

[21:27] Like seven years ago, okay, just a Facebook video is like man effortlessly freestyle out of beach

[21:34] And there's a crowd of people around him and he's like

[21:37] Picking like the patterns on people shirts out and putting them in his raps

[21:41] And so like that that was already insane, but yeah

[21:45] This latest podcast he was articulating deeply

[21:49] Like very yeah things I would have a hard time talking about not in a freestyle right at a slow pace. Yeah, yeah

[21:58] He was just effortlessly freestyling

[22:01] profound thoughts yeah

[22:03] Prop to it like he got a prompt in a lab or just unbelievable dude, it is

[22:08] If anything's a testament to that you can train your brain to be a certain way

[22:12] That like does that when I saw that I immediately was like

[22:18] Dude because he said he's been doing this since he was like 12. Yeah, that made me feel better as a person because I was like

[22:25] How could he's just another level of of that being?

[22:29] How does your brain work that fast dude? It's it

[22:32] Going to the stand-up thing like it's

[22:35] At a certain point you just understand a level of complexity and there's different levels

[22:42] Obviously, but like that him is the most elite version of the rap game

[22:47] Yeah, but he is I have never seen a rapper not a little dicky maybe I've seen some of this like he can freestyle some nut stuff

[22:55] But the Harry Mac stuff or people he just like walks into a room

[22:58] grabs a bunch of prompts from people and just goes and it's not like

[23:04] I feel like a lot of freestyles are not connecting things. They're just talking about the stuff and he just will he'll like

[23:11] Connect everything in a way that like it'd be a trek. I will listen to right not a freestyle

[23:16] He just casually

[23:18] Spend out some unbelievable verse. Yeah, like

[23:24] I mean there's a lot of rappers that just write awesome raps. Yeah, that's amazing in itself right

[23:30] Yeah, but to just do it on the fly like that. It's just so unbelievable. It's insanity man

[23:35] And I hope there's more people that I'm glad that you glad he made it because I when I saw like I

[23:40] Wile ago, I was like in Saint

[23:43] But he wasn't anything. He was just making videos. Yeah, I feel like that's a level of greatness that

[23:48] It cannot become big. You know like that dude

[23:52] And he's he's smart and innovative with it like doing the amiegal chats. Yeah, dude

[23:58] It's it's any I mean he's a professional drummer

[24:02] pianist like he's he's so musically

[24:06] I don't need once they gifted trained he's just trained to the point of being so elite in that field that it's

[24:12] I've never seen someone in the rap world like that

[24:16] Ever I just wonder like how many rhymes does he have flown around in his head?

[24:20] Dude his brains. I think he can hear a word and he just has seven things on that. Yeah, he can just put in it

[24:25] Dude, it's just association man. Once again, it's like if you were to talk to a person who's a PhD and anything

[24:32] They had the same level of connection of thought but the freestyle version is like it's way cooler

[24:38] It's just speeding everything up, which you've like it just it how does it go that fast?

[24:44] I was getting amped up watching I dude me too. All right, you would go to some topics

[24:51] Yeah, I got I got fucking gobs of them. Let's see gobs. That's a good word gobs

[24:58] I have one off the top of my head though before I even open up the thing all right

[25:02] We said that maybe there would be a reoccurring theme of things that make you anxious or give you anxiety and

[25:11] Do you remember that movie 128 hours with James Frank Ogan his arm stuck in the rocks 127?

[25:17] It's one yeah, yeah

[25:18] That's never seen it, but yeah, so you know what it is right?

[25:23] Yeah, what happens? He saw this on a true story. Yeah, yeah guys like I don't even know something rock falls on

[25:27] I'm in like a crevice, but

[25:29] I just today no prompt on this just like sent myself there in my mind of like all right put yourself in the situation

[25:41] You're in nature by yourself. I love this is just an on prompt of thought

[25:47] Yeah, I just I get random dudes sometimes I'll wake up and just have something like that dude

[25:53] It's so weird the brain just has all this junk and it's just like just like Harry Max head

[25:57] It's just all this shit flowing around basically Harry Max. Yeah, but so

[26:02] Your own nature

[26:04] You're alone, but you're like a seasoned nature guy. I guess you're I think he was like an experienced climber of some sort

[26:11] Okay, but you're out there. You know no one's like out there, but you go into a fucking

[26:17] A place where no one's gonna find you and then you get your arms stuck and

[26:22] Then you know the first hour you're probably like I can I get I can figure this out and

[26:28] Then you know come more hours go by and you're like

[26:31] Dude, I think someone's gonna find me. I think like a minute in I start freaking out

[26:36] Yeah, what happened to the rock fall on his arm? He was I

[26:41] Think so because he was down and like there's I've seen patient of these things

[26:45] Like not dunes, but it's like desert area and then you like going these big cracks in the ground and it's like

[26:52] It's like all these weird sand patterns, but a rock fell and his arm was just stuck in between the thing but

[26:59] At some point in your head

[27:02] Say a day goes by you're like okay, no one's coming to find me

[27:06] You have to make you it really in that moment shows how much of a coward you are

[27:11] Because you either ages die there or you cut off your arm and you dude

[27:17] The balls it would take to slowly cut off your arm. What did he have on him to cut his arm?

[27:23] I don't remember I think he had to like smash a little bit with the rock first and then like tear I don't think there was like a

[27:30] uneasy cut thing

[27:32] Dude like I did that

[27:35] He any survived

[27:38] Hey

[27:39] Hey, buddy podcasting

[27:43] You want to join the podcast

[27:48] But that I don't know I think you have a lot of good thoughts and views

[27:58] 10 episodes we'll be fighting canceled by then

[28:03] All right, but I

[28:07] I don't know if I could do it. I don't know if I cut off my own arm. I might die the coward's death

[28:12] I also don't know what that state of adrenaline is like when you're like your body's like listen if you don't

[28:18] What off your arm you will die

[28:21] But I fear of the fear of like slowly you could argue you could even argue the opposite would be the cowardly move

[28:29] If you're so scared of dying that you'll do anything to not die

[28:34] I

[28:36] Don't know why I see what you're getting like dying probably scared him so much

[28:43] Then he cut his own arm off. Yeah, but then it's like it's skated you're not enough to cut your like you can be the guy that

[28:50] You're you're so you're here's how I see it all right

[28:53] There's the dying fear which is the big fear of everyone right the top one

[28:57] But then there's things like cutting off your arm which are a lower fear

[29:01] So you you have

[29:04] Knowing that this is the end all be all fear up there you have said I'm too scared to cut off my own arm

[29:11] So it's like you're scared of a lesser thing right right and being like I can't do it even though the ultimate

[29:17] The outcome is you just fucking die because you don't have the balls to do it. I would feel

[29:23] cowardly if I just gave up yeah, but then it's like

[29:27] It's coming from a guy who's never had to cut his own arm

[29:31] That that would be horrific

[29:33] How did he live how did he not plead out? I don't know he got out of wherever he was and got to a place where people found him or he found people

[29:43] James Franco James Frank

[29:49] Fuck that's unbelievable. He must have I feel like he must have known a little bit about

[29:53] Like how to do it? I mean he must have tied it. How do you tie it off?

[29:58] I don't know well, I think at some point his arm was like crushed in a rock. Yeah, so like it probably was just losing anyway

[30:04] Yeah, I mean, you know, he had to cut the part that was alive though. Yeah, it's like probably out right but he

[30:11] Do that makes me think of there's another horrendous thought but in his situation he was stuck standing and like there's torture methods

[30:19] You know that go but I mean they probably still do it in some dark places in the world, but where they put you in

[30:26] Boxes that you can't sit so you have to like stand the entire time and they just you just stand but it's like a

[30:34] Like a two-foot wide lawn box that they just put you and I hate that and it's short

[30:40] So you're like slightly hunched. Oh, and they just leave you there

[30:44] Do they would do like medieval time stuff?

[30:46] They throw people in those dungeons and just leave them like that until they die just going on everyone

[30:51] Sites the medieval times is torture time. Why why were so many people getting tortured? I don't know

[30:56] That's a good question because a lot of that's where it all like you see the most extremes of like flane men and like

[31:02] I said that wrong flane man not full man

[31:05] Like it's kind of the same right?

[31:08] There's yeah, yeah, it's very similar but they're spelled. I guess filet would be the piece of the thing

[31:14] Flane would be the act of the thing

[31:16] Okay

[31:17] Don't quote me on that

[31:19] Entomology

[31:21] But I feel like we hear mostly about torture things from medieval times. I don't know why

[31:26] Yeah, like what the heck was going on maybe just monarchies were cooler, but that's I don't that's hard to believe

[31:31] That's hard like I would people were probably doing bad shit everywhere like all the time

[31:37] I mean, there's like the it's funny because there's certain groups of people over the top the course of history

[31:42] I'm out of historian. So this you know these are not all

[31:47] Let's just say fact check me

[31:49] Audience and I might oh I see your name fuck

[31:54] Derek

[31:56] Um

[31:58] We're like there's always points in time where there's like a

[32:02] An average society that's like there's always a crazy society somewhere

[32:06] Like a lot of people having to like the sparrans were an example that everyone knows of now or like most people in that time looked at them

[32:12] They're like savage people people like

[32:15] They're fucking nuts. They weren't awesome

[32:17] Yeah, but like most of the world at that time was like those people are essentially cavemen relax

[32:28] But like another example that is like the the command cheese the Native Americans here when we came we're like

[32:35] A lot of the tribes would eventually

[32:39] Other tribes tricked us into thinking that the command cheese were attacking someone so that they could

[32:43] Get American forces to just obliterate the command cheese because they would just go around raping and killing all these other Native American

[32:51] They're just like they're like the Viking equivalent of the Native Americans and like every group of people to ever exist always had

[32:58] That evil crew of them. Wow. It's weird too because there's always a

[33:03] Like Native Americans. I feel like a lot of people talk about in this light of like

[33:06] They're all kind and they live nature and they're peaceful and they were equally

[33:11] Oh, there is as evil as every human to ever exist and do horrific things. Yeah

[33:17] They'll they were just far the revenue dude

[33:21] Vicious dude. What a crazy world to be in and like dude fucking so like this is the planes land that we live in right with God's Illinois

[33:29] In my head growing up when they would teach history

[33:32] It was like oh, it was just you know big open fields and

[33:35] It's just kind of a non-dangerous climate

[33:39] But it was just the great planes. They were horrific like there was their non

[33:45] They never ended and then there'd just be like tribes of Native American. There's nowhere to hide

[33:49] You would like start to make your trek across them and just get destroyed

[33:53] By narrative of the face. Yeah, do it fucking and a lot of the times they would just follow you

[33:59] Until you just perished by natural cut like they'd stay you would see them from a distance

[34:03] Just like kind of stalking like like Anna predator and prey. Oh God. Yeah, man

[34:08] We live in a very blessed time

[34:10] We're like that's so that it that sounds fake

[34:14] Like all of that sounds like that that can't be real, but it is

[34:18] Dude, I don't even have to move ever in a day if I don't need if I don't want to

[34:27] Yeah

[34:27] Just

[34:29] Dude, I was thinking about this the other day. Yeah kind of just kind of shifting topics here

[34:34] But like no do take it. I could literally

[34:37] Just stay in my room

[34:39] yeah

[34:40] For the next for the rest of my life basically. Yeah

[34:44] You could literally get any kind of food you want delivered everything's paid for

[34:49] You can you have a phone so you can communicate with anyone you have a computer a camera you can communicate with anyone via those means like

[34:57] You can literally stay in your room

[34:59] Unless we literally unless like war happens we get a talk to something if there's like yeah

[35:04] That would be a factor that would change

[35:07] Got you to the fuck

[35:10] Like you you could just sit at your computer and not change as a person for 40 years

[35:15] Yeah, and then you come out the other side as a 60 year old being like

[35:18] Like the same person. It's it's kind of weird

[35:21] Yeah, mentally

[35:23] You probably took great a little bit. Yeah dude. I mean

[35:27] fucking

[35:28] Well

[35:29] Like in prison in the prison system solitary confinement is known as the most

[35:35] Horrific punishment just being alone. I do a lot of that every day. Dude me too man

[35:40] I'm literally here alone and then once it moves out I'll be truly alone in my fucking apartment

[35:45] Oh god we have to start hanging out more before we kill ourselves

[35:51] People will tune in are they dead yet?

[35:53] Are they still alive? Have they ended it all?

[35:57] But no I I mean I don't know about you, but I can feel it like the more time I spend alone the more time

[36:03] I feel like dude, where's me down? Yeah, and my social ability just plummets also

[36:08] I you would you say an introvert or an introvert?

[36:12] Extremely okay. I would say that about myself too. Yeah, like I see it

[36:16] Like I'm outgoing typically in public, but like I need to recharge alone

[36:20] So it's as wild even even the most introverted people

[36:25] You need some you need you need other people you need to connect with people absolutely. Yeah

[36:30] which

[36:33] We are social beings like we have to have something with other people so

[36:41] It's weird when we live in this world of luxury where we can just not which I don't think there's ever been a time where you could just

[36:48] I guess you could but it would you should be extreme measures and historically, you know

[36:52] But now it's like I can have every one of my needs and probably once met

[36:57] And just sit here and never talk to anyone or see anyone

[37:02] It's weird we're gonna say I think my eyesight's changing too

[37:07] From I don't look at things far away from me

[37:10] Ever and apparently that's like how you relax your eyes. Yeah most of the day

[37:15] For this thing I see is the opposite wall

[37:18] I'm looking at a screen. It's just I can feel it

[37:21] Dude there's priceless true to that. I mean

[37:24] I feel like we're we're doing a weird experiment of a bunch of things in like

[37:29] us being exposed to screens all the time

[37:34] all of these different like

[37:37] What's the word for like hyper excited to worry things on the computer typically when you're seeing all these colors and buttons and things and code and doing this

[37:45] all the time

[37:46] What just dope me hats left. Yeah, just all the time. So you just like you're just

[37:50] Draining or making your brain sold dull or tolerant to those things

[37:55] And then now and then what we're just talking about you have the loneliness on top of it

[37:59] It's a it's a strain dude. It's it's a it's an experiment that's gonna produce some really weird results at the end

[38:05] We're gonna have it like generations of people that are just like

[38:09] Just so socially awkward or emotionally not developed. Yeah

[38:14] but like we're

[38:16] older but there's kids that are going through this to thank God. I am so happy. I missed like Twitter was fun

[38:24] It was like a fun new thing. Yeah, high school. Yeah, it's become I'm an Instagram was barely a thing. I'm so glad I missed all that

[38:32] Yeah, like my space was the one I

[38:34] This is the only one I ever really got into. Yeah, like my face would like had our top friends on there

[38:39] You play music on the page and then Facebook in that time was like for college kids

[38:43] And I was like okay, I'm not doing that and then it never got to a thing where I'm like

[38:50] posting

[38:51] All the time or I'm scrolling through Facebook all like it never seems literally forms you

[38:57] Yeah, it forms your personality. It changed your your wire to it. I mean talk about dopamine

[39:02] You're like literally programming your brain to just want those likes and want those images and the

[39:09] colors like non-stop

[39:12] It's fuck man. We're fine. It's probably gonna be that I mean there's probably plenty of scientists and stuff

[39:17] We've said this by now, but it's gonna be the new like cigarettes

[39:20] Like 10 or 20 years. We'll pass by whoa. We did that. We gave that to kids. Yeah, and then gives us cancer

[39:27] Yeah, it's gonna do something. I mean we see like these huge spikes in autism or like

[39:31] Just mood disorders in children or anxiety

[39:35] Made anxiety through the roof. I feel like that's already being realized. Yeah, that end depression are

[39:40] Extremely high in youth and they've they've made a causal relationship between

[39:45] mostly I mean unfortunately affects women more

[39:49] Young girls because it's the whole comparison thing they see unrealistic images of their friends

[39:54] compared to the reality of themselves

[39:56] and yeah

[39:58] Which brings me to the next topic which is that of wow you plan this whole thing out

[40:02] You know that that uh

[40:04] Comparing yourself and maybe think of uh, so I've been reading

[40:09] Meditations by Marcus Arraileus which I think we talked about I started reading it and I'm like I'm like halfway through it

[40:15] And it's it's a cool book and it's I don't know if you've ever read like I have it. I I cracked it open

[40:21] Okay, I haven't I haven't read the whole thing but I've ever read a book in like philosopher style

[40:26] Like it's like biblical language

[40:28] It's strange like the first chapter, which I think they just call like they call them books like book one

[40:35] It's like 50 examples of people

[40:39] That have all these qualities that are like what they would consider stoicism. I guess or stoic

[40:44] Like John who did the thing but he's very seldom to himself when he makes sure everyone's cared for and it's just like

[40:50] Will do case by case by case and it's like after a while. I was like yeah, that's it's fine

[40:55] Like I it just gets kind of weird, but the funny thing which you can see

[41:01] The like it just dates the whole thing is anytime not anytime, but a lot of the times when they're like

[41:08] Here's the thing you should do if you don't do this you're a woman

[41:13] Oh really yeah to like all the time and it'll be like

[41:17] Yeah, you should really not think about what others think about you otherwise. It would be really womanly of you

[41:24] There's it's riddled with that but it's subtract the one the word woman out and just put like

[41:30] Coward or something

[41:34] You also have to think of like in that time is the time now men are usually like

[41:41] It's very feminine masculine. There's like men going to war women stain like women were thought of as like literally items

[41:51] Objects like that it's fucked up. Don't give me wrong. Oh, yeah, that's listening. It's terrible

[41:56] But it's in that world they were seen as that so when they're making those comparisons

[42:00] It's the modern day of saying like you're being a coward that's brutal. It is it has a lot of good points though

[42:06] It's not to that's the woman thing

[42:09] But try to get you out of this hole here

[42:17] I

[42:18] It is good the the common thing I see in the whole book is just

[42:24] Stop thinking about what other people think about you. That is the biggest like it'll take you down

[42:29] Really if you just following yourself. Yeah, just focus on yourself find something to get better at

[42:35] It's always it's like things of like I love that. Yeah, it's self and it's it's good. It's written well

[42:39] It's just self-improve. Well, not self-improvement, but it's

[42:45] That one I mean granted I'm like a hundred pages and it's like 200 something

[42:50] But there could be other themes, but it seems like that is the one don't think about what other people think about you

[42:54] It's only gonna hurt you. Is that a is that a book because I've read a little bit of it and it's it's just like a bunch of paragraphs of like

[43:02] Yes ideas. Yes

[43:04] Some others you do just turn through those or do you like read a little blurb and that just kind of sit with it

[43:11] I'll read through and then when I find one I'll write notes on my phone. Okay, so otherwise

[43:16] I'll just not remember stuff. Yeah, so I really want to get into the practicality because they're talking about all the themes and I feel like

[43:23] Towards the end they might get to like

[43:25] What you should be doing kind of thing like the idea of not

[43:30] You know thinking what others think of you is great

[43:32] But what is the practice of doing that because it's way easier said that done dude

[43:36] I can be like, yeah, I'm not how do you implement it in your life?

[43:39] Yeah, the fuck which I don't know if they're gonna talk about that, but if you like there's gonna be something

[43:44] Matter, does it give you any context like historical context around his life? Or is it literally just his journal like his thoughts?

[43:54] I mean, there's tons of historical context in terms of like he'll talk he'll tell stories about

[44:01] Things he's experienced his father is operating. I mean, it seemed like the guy had an awesome life

[44:06] The way he talks about he's like I've been blessed by everyone who's ever touched me kind of like my father my teachers my brothers my sisters

[44:12] My mother he's coming from a place. It sounds like enlightenment like he's had every need he has met

[44:19] And he's found that being stoic or being

[44:23] it's just like

[44:25] It seems like the state of absolute calm in terms of emotion

[44:30] Like things can happen to you. It sounds almost like crossword with Buddhism and stuff like that

[44:34] Where stuff can happen and you look at it from an objective view as opposed to as an emotional view which will help you in life

[44:42] I mean all of this yeah all the meditation stuff that goes on is like all based around that of like

[44:47] learning to let things pass through you and not like push against them when they happen kind of idea

[44:54] I don't know if you're gonna practice like mindfulness or

[44:58] What is the other one transcendental meditations a little different

[45:01] But they're all the same kind of cut cut think about stuff. Yeah, that's good. Something going on there. It's no hairy Mac, but I'll take it

[45:11] But yeah, that's an interesting

[45:14] Because I've heard that I mean from this and other sources like the the way to be

[45:19] Happy is to be very even keeled and like not spiking too far in either direction. Yeah, doesn't that kind of feel like you just

[45:26] Sort of get numb to things. I think it just not

[45:31] When the extremes happen because they will happen. Yeah

[45:34] You kind of dull the spikes. Okay, because those the the highs and the valleys

[45:40] The lows of the valleys just kind of they tend to disrupt so say you had that baseline

[45:44] You can experience a high and if you don't have that baseline you just shoot right back down though

[45:50] I think that's the idea of like sure not numbing super awesome stuff or super well

[45:57] Either way. Yeah either way just not not numbing it but making it so when it happens you can come back

[46:04] Your baseline is strong up to where you can go back to that thing and be okay

[46:07] Because everyone's gonna experience something that's gonna cause

[46:10] I would hope extreme happiness

[46:12] Unfortunately a lot extreme sadness at some point and some people at breaks do some situations where people

[46:19] It changes them for the worst in the moment or for the better right through extreme positive impact, but

[46:25] And some people will say psychedelics will do that so and there's more and more data coming out. I don't need to read the book

[46:32] I'll just do it. I'm telling you. I mean the more

[46:34] science we do in that

[46:37] world where they like give terminal cancer patients

[46:41] So they have like two grams of psychedelic mushrooms and it just changes their entire thing like they're outlook on the whole situation

[46:47] They like accept death. They're okay. They become happy. It's nuts

[46:51] I hate to give credit to an external thing because I'm a full believer in like the internal it is like we have to work this but

[46:59] Those are tools that mankind has not I'm we've been using them forever

[47:04] But we need to like use them to do it. We need to get everyone behind here. They grow for us. Dude. Yeah

[47:11] They're so weird. I'm pretty sure that they're the only thing that can live in a vacuum too

[47:15] Not like a clean vacuum like a vacuum of space

[47:18] So there's theory that they just showed up on a meteor one day like way way way long ago

[47:23] They just fucking landed and then just like inhabited everything

[47:27] It's fucking crazy. Have you ever heard the stone to ape theory?

[47:30] Uh, maybe we're like our ability us

[47:36] Or I should say not us. This sounds like a Joe Rogan take. Is this a Joe Rogan take? Uh

[47:41] He's probably mentioned it. Okay. It's a it's an actual theory by scientist that I think either like Carl Sagan or some kind of

[47:48] physicist or evolutionary person, but the theory is is that

[47:53] Uh, so when you take psychedelics you can experience this stuff called uh synesthesia

[47:58] Which is like you can feel colors or you can hear colors, you know

[48:03] We're like your sense is kind of blend

[48:05] The theory is that

[48:07] primates

[48:08] Some chimps somewhere some gorilla somewhere

[48:11] ate some mushrooms backs and because they just grow on shit the psychedelic ones most of the time

[48:15] and

[48:16] Had a blending of sensation that created language

[48:20] Because they started making associations with sounds and thought

[48:25] And it up until then they were split

[48:27] So from that synesthesia it prompted that and then it was kind of like a feedback loop of

[48:32] This thing makes me think this way and allows me to start to have complex thoughts

[48:37] And you know, we're talking about hundreds or thousands of years of evolution

[48:41] But that's one of theories which dude when you do those you can see how that

[48:46] Be possible

[48:47] As a person not as a pro well we are primates, but you know as a as a fully formed human

[48:52] You eat those you feel like it's literally open to new pathways

[48:57] Yeah, and the science we're doing now is showing that where they take people like ptsd and

[49:03] You know typically they'll put you in cognitive behavioral therapy for a long time and like work through the stuff

[49:07] And what they found when they give psychedelic mushrooms to people it like

[49:11] It puts your brain in a state

[49:13] That makes it more malleable

[49:15] Okay, so like you can have a bigger impact in a shorter amount of time for better or worse

[49:19] You know, I could traumatize you on mushrooms and you would like have ptsd from that experience

[49:25] But if we do good things during that time you can beat things in the much smaller window

[49:30] So

[49:32] Anyway, it's just science

[49:35] It's just simple stuff that's going on the universe

[49:38] All right, let's actually go to a topic love all right. Let me see this fucking crazy list

[49:43] Because it grew overnight

[49:45] Gun lost

[49:48] Just

[49:49] Tell me about god loss well

[49:54] I just I like I feel like it's a moving target no pun intended that

[49:59] It's always that was totally intended

[50:07] It's it's strange because we're America

[50:11] You know what we're America and we're all about our second mammarats

[50:17] But when those things when those laws were made

[50:20] Did like you know someone has a joke out there forget who it is one can means like when we made those it takes you two minutes to like oh

[50:28] Yeah load a musk put this the gunpowder in by the time and the joke is by the time you're like done loading it

[50:34] You're like I don't want to shoot this guy because it's like that emotion is so fleeting when you're like I want to shoot this person

[50:40] But now we have guns that like

[50:43] Or automatic that you could unload a clip and less than like 10 seconds be like oh fuck I just killed a bunch of people yeah

[50:50] And then it's like

[50:53] There's the side of if the government comes after us

[50:57] We want to protect ourselves which I get that side too because the government does some terrible shit

[51:02] Yeah, but then you have school shootings dude if the government comes after us

[51:06] I

[51:08] Have drones I know it would be it would be very quick

[51:13] The government comes after you you're not even gonna know your house would just blow up

[51:18] Yeah, there would

[51:20] I get that there's more there's more of us to fight them, but in terms of like

[51:26] We would have to have some

[51:29] Collective consciousness event where we can all connect and organize which would never ever happen ever do that no

[51:36] So I'm I lean more on the side that if it did come down to that to your point government which is like a

[51:43] Blitterade the common people and then once like a say a hundred thousand people are killed by the government everyone would just fall in line

[51:48] Unforce it'd be like yeah, dude. We're not gonna

[51:51] Fuck with the

[51:52] They just literally blew it like New York up with a nook. No thanks to it

[51:58] But so sit but then I guess it all in today it always gets to the point of

[52:05] school shootings

[52:07] Yeah, like we have

[52:09] So you by neatly American problem and for the past like what two or three years or something like that which is

[52:17] Nuts that when I was growing up that was never

[52:20] Why is that when we were growing up that never happened and their guns were still available

[52:25] Do we not heat well? I mean we just talked about mental health with social media. I think our natural collective

[52:32] Resimation has got way worse. That's in sit. Yeah, I guess I mean that obviously that's the root cause right like it's not up

[52:39] There's more guns now

[52:41] but

[52:42] Like Columbine was the one when we were growing up and that was it that was the one and we were like all school shootings

[52:49] You mentioned going to school. It's like every day shooting just hoping

[52:53] May hope is not our school today

[52:55] It's horrible. Yeah, so I'm crazy. I

[52:59] I feel like now

[53:01] One of the one of the more recent ones didn't they look at the guy's history and he was watching all these fucked up YouTube videos

[53:08] Oh, it's the Buffalo guy

[53:10] I don't remember but I feel like if you're sick

[53:13] Mentally now you can just go on the internet and feed it and make it grow. Yeah

[53:19] Right, that was not a thing in the past. Yeah

[53:23] Yeah, fuck dude. It's so complex

[53:26] But fuck it's also like

[53:28] I don't it would be I don't know what happened if the America was like we're gonna take all your guns away

[53:34] I think there'd be there'd be some kind of

[53:37] Extreme pushback, but I just what everyone said but everyone's like no one needs the murder weapon the semi automatic

[53:45] Yeah, however many rounds like and I kind of agree with that. Yeah dude. Absolutely. I you should be able to have a gun for self defense

[53:53] I think so you're home. It's the one thing because I'm all for this like free market idea in terms of how we run a country

[54:01] But it's the one thing that's literally made to kill someone

[54:04] There's not another product out there that the consumer can buy

[54:07] That is purely made to end someone's life. Yeah

[54:11] Nothing so it's like there's so many of them. There's so many. Yeah, we have I think it's like one point seven guns per person

[54:19] Yeah, there's more guns of people

[54:21] That's so many just fuck around and find like half a billion guns

[54:27] Where are these guys?

[54:30] And so many guns

[54:33] It's not good. It's horrible. It's fucking crazy

[54:37] It's like how the hell do we control it now? Right and that the I've heard the argument to of say we

[54:44] People will get guns anyway. Yeah, but then but then

[54:48] Like Australia banned automatic weapons in

[54:52] 19 like 90 after they had one really bad school shooting or mass shooting and

[54:58] To buy an AR 15 in the black market in Australia is like 30,000 dollars

[55:04] So like a criminal. Yeah, it's free market. That's

[55:08] That's a win. Well, that's black right if it give the price gets through the roof right and then

[55:13] I think Jim Jeffries has a joke about this where he's literally like

[55:17] criminals, I mean a after they did that no more mass shootings one has not happened since then

[55:23] but

[55:23] If you if you're a criminal and you have 30,000 dollars you're not about to

[55:29] Go buy a gun to do the thing, you know like that amount of money when someone usually has that they're not about to go

[55:36] Do a mass shooting or something like most people are trying to get the money

[55:40] So if they had that money you're saying if you have that much money you're you're the boss and you're doing bigger things than shooting up a school exactly

[55:48] So it's like that

[55:49] It's a good experiment and what happens but

[55:53] Since we have such so many guns here it might not have that effect like the black market for guns here would probably not be super expensive

[56:00] I may go a little bit

[56:02] but I don't fucking know

[56:04] There's a topic where obviously not gonna solve

[56:08] But I like how it was the first topic I had

[56:11] For this podcast was just gun loss

[56:13] Yeah, well I'm gonna go buy a gun after this podcast

[56:18] Dude

[56:18] Did you ever shot again? Yes

[56:21] You

[56:22] I shot a war war two gun and my great uncles. What was it like? It's pretty cool

[56:27] I mean with it feels I was like 12 but he like held it with me and we just shot shit in his backyard

[56:33] He like lives on like Michigan or he's dead now 93 but nice dude is ripped a shit too. Yeah, you know fall

[56:40] World War two

[56:42] fucking would go to gym every day

[56:44] Dude

[56:46] Side story about this guy Uncle Tony

[56:49] Rest in peace. I love a good World War two story

[56:51] Well

[56:53] Tell me about his combat days

[56:55] You only told me you got shot and he said it felt like an hit by a bat like huh like the impact

[57:01] And then you're kind of it but

[57:04] He I learned about this workout thing called Nautilus through him which is a thing that arrived in like

[57:10] Probably the 50s or something where so you have a word so you have a bicep curl machine right

[57:17] You can do like say you do a set of bicep curls and then you hit a button and then the weight flips to be opposing

[57:24] So then it'd be a trisic extension on every rep do you do that? No, so you like oh you could but it

[57:31] You'd probably not

[57:32] Biceps are like sure try something bigger than biceps so you

[57:36] I don't want to do it. Yeah, yeah, but there's all these machines that are Nautilus

[57:41] Brand that have that which in the exercise physiology world

[57:46] That is one of the best ways to work out so after you do an exercise the next one should be opposing and you're the you're always stronger in the same workout

[57:56] Or in the same workout. Okay, so like that's why they they pair chest and back or

[58:03] You do shoulders and back so any kind of opposing direction. Okay, that muscle

[58:08] Will be stronger in the lift afterwards. So if like say you're going into a bench

[58:12] And you're laying on there if you do like a couple of quick like

[58:17] Weird lat pull up things. It's a good way before you go into the bench so to make it stronger. Oh, yeah, it's weird like a

[58:23] uh motor neurons that like activate in different ways when you

[58:28] Work your body that way so anyway those machines were cool and I was like fuck dude

[58:33] I've never even seen one though ever he said he used to go to a gym that was only those until he died

[58:38] He had like biceps that were bigger than mine just like 93. Yeah, dude. He was ripped. That's what I want to be

[58:45] Dude ripped old man. It's the palliant dude making ministerony every day and living on a lake shooting MP 40s at fucking squirrels

[58:52] Sounds like when he talk about it

[58:54] All right, here's the concept

[58:57] How do you feel about people that have a really well? Yeah, I'm just fucking bad except Harry Mac

[59:03] Love Harry Mac so fuck cool

[59:05] Um people who having a strong opinion on things that they are not educated on

[59:11] There's a lot of that like god loss

[59:22] Like the thing we just spoke at like you're just like break down the fourth wall of us being fucking idiots

[59:26] Be like oh wait, this is the whole podcast dude. I literally I had this thought last time. Yeah

[59:33] You just

[59:35] We're on some tangent you just hit me with what do you think about military spend?

[59:41] And my god cheese dude, I don't know. I don't know if that's my my wheelhouse, but let's think dude

[59:47] That's the fun part about this whole thing is that

[59:49] It's just disclaimer before every episode. We don't know shit. No dude. We're fucking we're just too do

[59:56] Fucking chilling. I think

[59:59] All right, I guess we haven't had like any super strong takes yet about

[60:04] The government which I need to chill on a little bit, but but also I feel like they're not perfect takes, but they're rooted in fact

[60:11] I mean at least of things that have happened. I was just gonna say

[60:14] Dude before the internet

[60:16] It was mostly just chilling a basement talking nonsense

[60:21] Not to say it should become reality like fact, but it's so fun

[60:25] Just like you heard this fact from your fucking cousin about like like Maryland, Manston getting his rib removed

[60:31] So he could suck his own dick, which just literally was not true

[60:34] Yeah, but that thing just floated around that that fact for so long. Yeah, it's like I love

[60:40] That it's like the human mind just like bullshitting about stuff and it creates hilarious stuff if you just let it ride a little bit

[60:47] Once again, we're not giving medical advice or like you know

[60:51] It we're not trying to teach you how to live your life. We're just here to have fun. I I feel like I

[60:57] Feel like I acutely remember realizing

[61:01] When like how everyone fact checks everything. Yeah, like I had a very specific friend in college

[61:08] Who he would get so mad because everything he would say stuff in a wee bit like is that true like we would question him on it

[61:13] Yeah, and it's a reason like that's annoying when someone does that to you

[61:17] Yeah, when someone just questions something you say like that sucks, but that's that's the world we live it

[61:22] True and I can see to play devil's advocate. I've definitely

[61:26] Had a friend that I

[61:29] It's weird because he maybe you've had this friend as well in a friend group growing up

[61:32] But you just know they lie or exaggerate about a lot of stuff

[61:36] Like a ton of stuff to be checked

[61:40] It's either it gets to that point where I'm like dude bullshit or I just start a green like right? I was like nice dude. It's just

[61:48] People will do that all the it's weird. I have adult friends now that do and it's weird because there's a way to connect

[61:55] Yeah, like the way at least I've seen it with the one I'm talking about now is like

[61:59] They'll say all these things as if like

[62:03] To impress me so I'll still be friend like we're already friends

[62:06] You don't have to do that, you know, you're you're here man like I don't care what's going on just tell me the truth

[62:11] You don't got to exaggerate but

[62:14] Yeah, I don't know it's now we live in that age like time. I work. I'll just pull out your fun be like wrong

[62:18] Yeah, it's it's a fine line. Yeah, it sucks to feel like

[62:24] You people don't believe you or people don't like trust you. Yeah, if you're terrible just fact checking all the time

[62:29] But yeah, there's also the person who needs it. I feel like I feel like

[62:34] Now everyone kind of realizes that

[62:37] But for me, it felt like in college we were kind of transitioning

[62:40] Mm-hmm. Maybe it's just the time of my life, but

[62:44] Where everyone starts fact checking everything. Yeah, I feel like

[62:49] If we're being asked about it too and we talked about this a little bit last time

[62:53] You know, I was telling you like we sometimes just read headlines. It was connecting to the fucking quality Climidia bit

[62:59] but

[62:59] It was

[63:01] Most people are just reading headlines and that social gathering just being like headline

[63:04] Yeah, just say and then you ask them once again. I've done this thing of like read it

[63:10] Don't know anything about the article like uh fuck. I feel like

[63:15] If most of these things people are learning there is using them as like social fodder to conversation

[63:20] Which I I want conversation. Yeah, I'd rather that than us just like not talking about it

[63:26] You don't want to silence some like make someone feel scared to talk right?

[63:29] So I feel like in this fact checking universe. It's easy to be like that's wrong

[63:34] But instead just like

[63:35] be like

[63:37] Let's just keep talking about this. This is fucking wild right even someone says something crazy

[63:40] It's better to be like oh yeah, tell me about you

[63:43] I want to hear your extreme take on this thing like gun loss

[63:47] but

[63:49] Yeah

[63:50] It's I had it's weird that you bring this up because when I went home this past weekend told you went back to my parents

[63:57] We went to the city as we're driving on a congested Chicago highway almost to Chicago

[64:04] There's the L train that's going and there was these springs that connect each train cart to each other like three sets on each side of it

[64:12] And you and my dad was like I wonder what that those are four because they have the big thing

[64:18] That's connecting them like the giant metal piece in between on the like not on the ground

[64:22] But you know you'll walk over it as you're passing between cars if you're like switching cars. Okay

[64:27] And he was like why would you need the springs like that's not if the train crashes those springs aren't gonna hold it together

[64:34] And then we were literally talking about it and my mom's like I'm just gonna fucking Google and like don't

[64:39] I was like let's just fucking let's just keep talking and see like where we get with it because it's way more far away

[64:44] You're so right about that. Yeah, I

[64:46] I had someone on some podcast at this but they're like I don't want to see the funny video you saw today

[64:53] I want to hear you talk about the video

[64:55] Then why you tell me about it. That's more fun. This the connection like we'll talk about being social and being human and connecting to each other

[65:02] That is it. Yeah, instead of us being like here's what the robot says here's the actual truth in the world

[65:08] It's it's weird, but I'm trying to be more like that especially

[65:12] I mean

[65:13] When I go home and visit family because everyone's just like we just find that out now like too. Let's just go for round

[65:19] Let's just be it he gets for a while and this fact doesn't matter if we know it or not

[65:22] You know like it's not gonna change our lives as we learn the springs do something else on the train

[65:26] Like let's just hang out with each other talk to each other and instead of you finding the fact and then just showing it down

[65:32] Yeah, yeah, you figure it out. No, we never looked it up dude. It's beautiful

[65:40] And then I talk about my one more word about

[65:44] I mean the backseat oh so beautiful

[65:48] But yeah, no, it's yeah, it was cool, but all right

[65:54] We'll go to a topic that's not gonna loss

[65:59] Okay, I'll know it was oh we never we never circle back to this

[66:02] uh

[66:04] So

[66:05] The strong opinion on something you're not educated on I think it differs kind of from what we're talking about right in terms of like

[66:14] Talking about nonsense. It's that's not having a strong opinion on it. The keyword is strong exactly

[66:19] Well, like people like very opinionated about something you don't know that much about right

[66:23] Which I feel like there's a lot of people like that like think of

[66:29] Trying to think of an example. I've had in my life of someone who's like has a really strong opinion, but really doesn't know

[66:36] I can't think of one I think like the working out world or the exercise world

[66:40] There's a lot of that of people being like this is the right way to eat right way to eat right way to take supplements

[66:45] Right way to do this movement where they're like comparing just the most tiny of difference between like a lap pull down

[66:52] If you pull it down to your chest or you pull it down to your neck and like dude, that's a

[66:56] Everyone's physiology is really different. So what you're feeling and what you're working out could be

[67:03] Entirely different and that amount of distance

[67:06] Not gonna make a difference anyway, but they'll like be very gun-ho

[67:11] Be like if you don't do this way, you're not gonna get the development you want

[67:14] It's fucking crazy to hear

[67:17] Dude, I think this

[67:18] We you talked I think we talked at some point about how people's beliefs can be like core pillars of who they are

[67:25] Yeah, I feel like that's just having any strong opinion

[67:30] It's it's often like representant about that deeper than just an opinion. That's probably that's a good point

[67:35] Good I think it's probably I mean

[67:37] Why would anyone feel strongly about anything if they didn't identify with it on a deeper level?

[67:41] You know, it's probably so close to who they are right and they're like this is me

[67:46] The neck not the chest

[67:50] Just thinking of a bodybuilder being like this is my spirit the way to correctly do a lap pull down my temple

[67:57] And it will then and if you call that guy out he's gonna be pissed oh well

[68:02] Yeah, cuz you through his lens. It's you're attacking him. You're not attacking the way to do the lap pull down now like noted

[68:08] You're spreading this information. Yeah

[68:11] It's weird. I mean at that level

[68:14] It's not dangerous, but then you get the people who are like Hitler

[68:19] Yeah, talk about the strongest opinions

[68:24] Yeah, that's dangerous. Yes, dude that

[68:27] And it's it's a good experiment of brainwashing in terms of like I mean it happens all that not all the time to the Hitler level

[68:35] but

[68:36] How just like finding a lot of people in their most week of times and

[68:42] Slowly slowly planting seeds of being like

[68:46] Germany's great

[68:48] Germany's great

[68:51] No, no, I'm leaning to the

[68:54] But just like

[68:55] none of those people in the beginning

[68:57] Ever thought the outcome was gonna get to work

[69:00] Sturminating people like none of them. I mean there's the

[69:05] There's the photo of maybe we talked about this last time. There's a photo of them in medicine square garden

[69:10] They had a Nazi convention like 1936 before they were known as like

[69:14] They were just a political party in Germany

[69:16] But in New York at medicine square garden

[69:19] They had like a 30,000 people attendance thing with like there's swat stickers everywhere in the picture

[69:24] And but it was just like oh yeah political party

[69:26] So they had fooled already so many people and then once again, it's just like inches that they move up

[69:33] And then eventually everyone's already so deep in it that they identify with that thing as them

[69:38] So like to go again here's now it's coming back

[69:41] Yeah, yeah, that I truly believe that's what it is is like you get so deep you see it in our our political atmosphere

[69:46] Where people get so entangled with ideas like that taking little steps up

[69:50] And then it takes a lot of courage for you to go I was wrong

[69:55] And in the Hitler case you say you're wrong it usually means like death like if you're if you're right

[70:01] Un

[70:02] You can't just go home damn and I'm like oh yeah dude take off your clothes

[70:09] Take off the Nazi stuff go home you die you just fucking shoot you in the street or

[70:14] Door you in the gas chambers?

[70:17] So yeah has a

[70:20] Bits basically saying just that he's like what I just have to know what he was saying because there's no way he just came out and set it like we're gonna

[70:27] Hmm just exterminate people. Well, you know, they're a regional thing

[70:31] Was they were going to send all of the juiced him out of gascar?

[70:35] That was the original plan. Yeah, they were just gonna ship them all there. They weren't gonna kill them

[70:40] That was their actual plan. Yes, and then that was way to like

[70:45] Such a hard thing to pull off to just ship like six million people to Madagascar

[70:51] That they're it was more economically

[70:53] It was easier to just gas to mass extermination

[71:00] So but and now we do it. Where are we starting?

[71:03] Oh

[71:05] This is all to say that strong opinions that you're not educated. I mean that's

[71:10] Not to keep talking about this, but

[71:12] Those people had strong opinions about

[71:14] Things they knew nothing about

[71:17] About like Jews being rats and all the propaganda that the Nazi would spread. It's all obviously false information

[71:22] But it's like propaganda that

[71:25] Enough people really had strong opinions on like the Jews are this

[71:29] To go to that extreme

[71:31] It's crazy

[71:33] It's insanity dude it fucking is but

[71:37] Yeah, I was thinking more strong opinions on like

[71:40] The bodybuilding level

[71:45] But it's awesome to see the scale of it. I just

[71:49] When it becomes dangerous, I I don't know if I should be a

[71:54] Person to be like hey, don't do that. That's that's for me. That's the situation always get to where I see people saying stuff

[72:00] Obviously wrong or like kids are in at least in the lifting world

[72:04] Like stuff about like a lot of people will say that they're all natural. How often do you come across bodybuilders just preach and stuff all the time

[72:12] Dude, I mean, I mean like like in person. No, just a bunch of like um I'm also I don't really post anything online

[72:18] But it's always on the internet or people who post pictures of like

[72:23] Them their progress working out. They're obviously on steroids like a lot of them

[72:28] There's you you can only reach a server if it's dude. Yeah, that's a great example of that. We're like there's

[72:33] So many people consume it kids consuming that content being like

[72:37] All I gotta do is eat raw meat get son in my face and lift six times a week

[72:42] And I'm gonna look like that and you can attain that without steroids now do that. I don't want to give liver can any fucking

[72:51] I don't want to even give his it's when all that stuff came out the amount of stuff he's on is insane

[72:57] Like it it's fucking and everyone knew it every way dude. Well any

[73:02] I don't know there's people who believed he was a natural athlete now like dude what

[73:07] That's his skin looks fake everything about looks fake

[73:11] There's so many teletel signs when our people get really bulgy traps the swelling and redness of the face because there's so much water retention

[73:19] Having 2% body fat and being like

[73:22] Ripped where you can see like every app. Can't even look healthy. No, dude

[73:26] He looks terrible. Yeah, he's also eating raw meat all the time

[73:33] Steroids you he does both those

[73:36] You subtract even it's like if he was just eating raw meat, I'd still be like what are you doing? This is fucking crazy, but it's

[73:45] Oh, it's it's such a weird illusion to put up to go eating raw meat will get you this that's his whole thing

[73:52] I know he's called the liver king

[73:56] Is the soul just the brain and we're like not what if the brain is the puppet the whole time the soul is actually in the ass

[74:03] Okay, so if you had the option

[74:05] Oh fuck so you know when people like there's amputees that we have like a whole market of prosthetics that are nearly functional

[74:14] Arm arm or leg parts sure just going back to 127 hours. I mean it ties in but I wasn't trying to do that

[74:22] um

[74:23] Worst starting to see the level of robotics that's gonna be like

[74:29] enhancement

[74:30] So you didn't even lose your arm, but you have the option to get terrible arms to cut it off and put it fake one

[74:36] Yeah, would you do it? Fuck no me neither, but it looks pretty cool. But like all right. What if you could like

[74:43] I'd throw some like throw a jetpack on fly around like grafted to your back

[74:49] This is half a jetpack just attached to you. Are you saying just like a separate jetpack? I'd wear an iron man suit

[74:54] Oh, that'd be cool if I could take it off. I'm not gonna cut my own limbs off

[74:58] Yeah, but like what if you could run like 160 miles per hour if they give you robotic legs robo legs

[75:05] Do need to do that. That's true

[75:07] But you like run home to visit your parents. No, that'd be cool

[75:11] That'd be

[75:12] All so many bugs or like oh yeah, probably get a robot mouth for that

[75:20] Just becoming entire robot or you like bench fucking get robo packs

[75:24] You can you bench like a fucking if you removed your arms to get robo arms so you just so you could bench more

[75:31] You suck you you're the worst person

[75:34] Why don't you're talking to the worst person?

[75:37] Become full robot. I guess this is kind of on the horizon of that neural link stuff

[75:42] Which that dude

[75:45] The robot arms the lake stuff to me is like okay, it's so it's not it's just part of me

[75:51] But like getting something in your brain. Oh, you feel you just playing with fire. You watch black mirror. Yeah, dude

[75:57] Fucking awesome. A lot of that stuff going on. Yeah, it's all sci-fi like it's what could go wrong. Yeah

[76:02] Like a lot of brain implants stuff. Yeah

[76:06] It's I don't know the I mean one of the best ones in my opinion is the one where you can just watch all your memories back

[76:13] That'd be awesome. That would be cool. That'd be so cool except they demonstrate all fucked up. It could be yeah

[76:19] It's just like we we know so little about

[76:23] Like we still don't even know really what consciousness is and till like now take

[76:29] Start shoving things and take hardware and just put it in the place where like most of our processes come from in terms of being a person

[76:38] It's just such a gamble dude. They just put a chip in there and now you can google stuff from your eyes

[76:45] Yeah, it's crazy. I mean I feel like in our lifetime. They certainly won't have to do they they

[76:54] They just they'll start doing trials. I think they're gonna fuck up a lot of people

[76:58] They just finished doing it on the monkeys and they're trying to get to human which they also killed like thousands of monkeys

[77:04] The chips like melted their fucking brains and now they're trying to get human trials. I should say

[77:11] Tesla

[77:14] If you melt like a thousand monkey brains

[77:18] But like to survive

[77:21] And they could they could google shit and they're too barely made

[77:26] If you could play music in your head whenever you want it from Spotify

[77:30] Yeah, I don't know dude. I don't know if I want that

[77:33] I don't know if it's just such a funny trade up me like this might kill you

[77:38] But you can have Spotify hooked up to your headphones headphones are awesome now

[77:42] Bluetooth headphones and my hot phones dude air pods had the right it that is become such a fashion thing

[77:50] Like the I think AirPods look stupid. I do have them. I don't have I do oh shit. Oh, yeah

[77:56] I mean, but I don't I don't feel

[77:58] Let's talk about stronaping in the opinions fuck air pods to fuck, but they've become of like a

[78:05] A fashion trend thing like people wearing things with the AirPods. I'm like whoa. This is so weird. I

[78:11] I fashion can look like anything. I showed you the rubber boots

[78:15] The big red boots if it demonstrates that you have enough money to buy it. It'll look good people will desire it

[78:24] Yeah, oh, I dude

[78:25] I think the fucking tube that hangs out of your ear with AirPods. I think it looks stupid

[78:30] Well, but this shows you have enough money to buy AirPods true, which is a status symbol

[78:35] So now I'm gonna rebuttal for the AirPods against your argument

[78:40] Guess what headphones I wear

[78:44] I don't know like a weird question. I say I'm son

[78:47] No, dude. What's another brand of headphone? There's still Apple tech. I wear beats, but they wrap around your ear

[78:55] Okay, do they have like little rubber plug things on the ends of them? Yeah, though

[79:00] I wear them because they I don't know

[79:02] I've never ran with AirPods and I feel like they would fall out of your ears. Oh no, they fucking stand there

[79:07] So it says that don't believe it dude. I've ran 13 miles like for an entire summer. Let's stay in my ear sweaty

[79:12] Do you get terribly sweaty, but they're fine. There's no way you sweat as much as me running 13 miles

[79:19] I mean if we ran the same amount you might be sweaty

[79:21] Are you saying just in general just all the time dude? How so you look fine? You're not sweaty. That's what I'm probably sweaty too

[79:32] Okay, not sways that

[79:33] But god, what are we talking about the insert the brain insert? Oh, Narelank. Yeah, I mean

[79:40] It's weird because we will hit a point

[79:42] I think we're bill that thing will start being able to like enhance your brain

[79:46] Efficiency so then we'll have we'll have people that are just better

[79:53] Which what do you do then and there's gonna be like civil rights movements around that that scares me too because

[80:00] I like having smart people and dumb people in in various subjects

[80:05] I fully believe

[80:07] Everyone is smarter than someone has something yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely

[80:12] So but I feel like something like that it feels like

[80:14] I

[80:16] Everyone's just gonna level out at a certain ceiling

[80:19] I don't know just because same think about what you just said having the smart and the dumb

[80:25] It would probably just translate like we'd all be heightened

[80:28] But then there'd still be the smart and the dumb at those various areas. Yeah, what if okay?

[80:33] I mean we're getting super hype about it. We're fine. Just

[80:36] If I could just throw something inside. I want to be an awesome musician and I have nothing to that

[80:41] Would be insane that sounds that sounds too good to be true. That'd be so cool

[80:46] That'd be sweet like dude, but then but then all of a sudden I guess at the point I'm making

[80:51] All of a sudden nothing's impressive anymore. I don't know. I'd it definitely could go that way for sure. I think that

[80:58] We're like if we we're wrapping

[81:01] consciousness around

[81:03] The intelligence so be like ever there's still the uniqueness that every person is and the ability not ability maybe but

[81:11] you could like

[81:13] You were talking about trying to learn the interstellar thing on piano while ago, right? So imagine if like you had

[81:20] Your ideas and creativity, but with the musical ability

[81:23] You would be able to make things that I'm like a new three exactly and you could you could it would open up the world for everyone making

[81:31] You just flip my opinion and tell it at dude

[81:35] It's it it sounds in my in my opinion my strong opinion on this

[81:40] It's not I think that sounds awesome to have like everyone now has the ability to create

[81:45] Stuff that they think is creative. Yeah, but it also could just be like we cap out everyone caps out

[81:52] There's no smarter dumb and then everything's just uh

[81:56] Like monotone

[81:57] Everything is the same everything's good and at that point there's no reference to bad

[82:02] So then everything's like yeah, the thing that scares me is like being able to play an amazing song out out of piano

[82:10] Like that would just be something you bought

[82:13] Instead of something you put the time in and herb

[82:17] Yeah

[82:18] That I don't know what that feel like that be a really weird feeling. Yeah, but like

[82:23] all right

[82:25] Like we've talked about in doing stand-up

[82:27] You can I can as you walk through the bits and you can see yourself doing this like well, right?

[82:34] I can see myself doing the funny thing and then when I know when I go to do it

[82:39] It's not going to be anything like in my head, you know

[82:43] So it'd be weird if like we close that gap

[82:46] So now there's the thing in your head just happens

[82:50] There's no there's none of the bad which is probably not just don't have to work

[82:55] for anything

[82:56] You just super fit super smart super talented people would just get depressed or just fuck like rabbits everywhere

[83:04] And just make a super race

[83:06] Yeah, no, I don't fucking know

[83:08] It either way if it does happen like they start pumping these narrow lengthens out

[83:12] I'm not getting one anytime. I'm gonna let the first seven waves of people die from crazy brain shit or

[83:19] Who fucking knows I was get freaked out about putting like anything artificial in my body and keep and staying there

[83:25] Yeah, like having a piece you have anything like a screw or anything from no component. Don't you do right? I don't oh

[83:31] I think like the hip

[83:32] All natural all natural weird hell yeah

[83:36] Yeah, but uh, yeah shit fucking freaks me out

[83:40] But anyway, that was like we've only done like two topics dude

[83:45] We're fucking on fire

[83:48] There's so much stuff I have written down. We're even have right now of content

[83:51] Uh, I

[83:53] I could I feel like I could talk for days on what we just talked about yeah, but let's let's move on

[84:00] Biscuits and gravy

[84:02] How do you feel about it?

[84:06] Ah you've had it right

[84:09] Ah, yeah, like the breakfast biscuits and gravy it's good

[84:13] I have I have friends

[84:16] I've one friend in particular who like that's

[84:19] Every diner every breakfast place they go to same they check it out that that's what they're there for and they they compare them

[84:25] It's like they're big yeah, I

[84:28] Don't I'm not super hyped about it. I don't really ever order it. Yeah same. I had a

[84:34] So probably similar to that friend you're talking about I had a friend who

[84:39] Thought that was the best thing and talk about strong opinions would be like

[84:45] Like he was it wasn't just that he loved it a lot it was like you need to also love this a lot

[84:50] And he was a big like

[84:54] He was always like when we go to his house and as we've gotten older like he makes that for breakfast every time

[85:02] You like dude like my biscuits and gravy tomorrow. I'm like yeah

[85:09] I

[85:12] He's open up his own business. Yes

[85:14] and

[85:16] It's got it's just oh

[85:19] I even with I've never I look at that meal and I'm like debauchery it's bread and goop

[85:26] Literally on a fucking plate

[85:29] It looks disgusting. It looks like diarrhea mixed with fucking a biscuit

[85:34] And it takes it tastes like I'm eating something at a concentration camp truly. It's like dude

[85:39] It's truly when I when I hear the words slop

[85:42] I think of biscuits and gravy. Yeah, he's like lunch lady slopp just do it on the tray

[85:48] And the fact that I know someone that it was so passionate about that meal

[85:52] My

[85:55] Unbelieve there's been so many times anyone like his biscuits and gravy. Yeah, it's it's an average dish

[86:01] Yeah, it's just something that's so surprising me to be like this is fucking dude wait

[86:06] Just wait till you have this slop man. You're gonna love this flop

[86:11] It's gonna be great slop

[86:13] It's just salty fatty goop. I mean it's just salt salt fat

[86:19] Makes everything good. Right. It's just a whole thing like

[86:22] But it's it's a weird

[86:24] In soupy gelatinous nothing forms when you're just like we find shit and being like yeah, dude you're gonna like it. I don't

[86:33] Gravy gravy shouldn't be as big of a piece as it is in that dish

[86:38] Then any meal just like if gravy is the number two thing

[86:43] That's probably great to go gravy gravy goes on

[86:46] gravy goes on just you don't just eat gravy. Yeah up until that person

[86:52] Gravy had always been on food

[86:54] Not just you don't just you don't slurp and glit gravy at the Thanksgiving table. It's disgusting

[86:59] You're an animal you could kicked out of my parents house like what are you fucking sloppy pig

[87:06] Just kick you out

[87:07] But I just need a thought about that because it's a good pig impression. Thanks man. I do

[87:16] I got all the animals locked down

[87:18] Yeah, but I need to bring that up because I I saw it's it's average

[87:22] It's so I don't know who I saw recently but I saw someone talking about how good biscuits and gravy wasn't I was like

[87:26] Not the friend I'm talking about I'm like what are there's gotta be some emotional connection

[87:31] There's gotta be like I was growing up my mom would make biscuits and gravy because I truly don't understand

[87:37] Why that's is considered like a culinary masterpiece to some people

[87:41] I probably sound like such a douche saying that

[87:44] Like I'm really yeah, yeah, my palates way more refined, but it's just it's locked dude. It's get over your pigs

[87:53] I'm sorry. I kind of want some now

[87:55] It sounds pretty good. Let's do it dude. I know where you know what maybe I'll say that's like maybe a once a year meal for me

[88:03] I haven't had it since that friend in high school. Yeah, yeah

[88:06] I probably don't even have it once a year, but I would I wouldn't want to eat it much more than that

[88:11] Yeah, I'm just I also I don't I'm done talking about it

[88:17] Sounds like you're over at dude. Yeah, I'm so super fucking over it

[88:23] Okay

[88:25] So this one's a tofer there's two things good

[88:29] Say you get engaged okay and

[88:33] You know you give the you have your engagement ring give it the ring

[88:36] The engagement doesn't go

[88:40] Should you get the rain back or should you get to keep the ring? Oh

[88:45] Die you should she should give you the ring back. Yeah, apparently this there's there's it's literally

[88:51] It's what it is the symbol of your marriage. There's there's people out there

[88:55] Which it might be the minority, but I've heard people take the stance of it's a gift

[89:02] So I get to keep it

[89:05] Which in my head is psychotic behavior. Yes. I think that is truly psychotic meaning that that thing was purely a medium of like

[89:13] The bonding of two people and that's no longer happening and so okay, so with that

[89:20] In that realm of stuff all right. Was that was that the first one? Yeah, that's the first one

[89:25] I think we're on the same page. Yeah, which I would imagine most logical people like yeah, did you give a pack?

[89:30] It's like it's weird that you have an engagement ring that someone gave you and then you never got married

[89:35] Be very strange

[89:38] Keep I'm sure those people sell it right away, right? I don't know

[89:42] There's a lot of freaks out there

[89:44] They might be wearing engagement rings because people do it a little bit more shit than that. That's very very true

[89:49] So on that note we now live in this era where diamonds are being made in labs that are chemically equivalent

[89:57] Intetic ones to the ones being mined by slave children in Africa

[90:02] They made a whole movie on it. What diamond we owe to caprio

[90:05] great movie

[90:07] There's a stigma to this

[90:09] To bind because they're much cheaper the lab ones much much much cheaper than a slave diamond and

[90:17] There's a stigma for of buying that

[90:20] Oh if you it's yeah, you know, which is which is can you am I'm trying to get inside the people's heads who are taking that stance

[90:28] I don't know anyone. I feel like I know a fair amount of people who are engaged. I don't know anyone who has that stance

[90:35] I believe it's out there what it's like I know that it's I'm saying I know but I've literally heard

[90:41] People be like yeah, no, it's it's like because it's a cheaper alternative

[90:46] But it's so I'm just trying because the point I'm trying to make it shows like you you didn't pay for the real thing

[90:52] So do you like it's just it I'm trying to get to the point of like

[90:57] That thought of saying it's the cheaper alternative. I want the one that's found by a slave child

[91:05] There's people who are thinking that

[91:08] How how

[91:09] I don't think they don't think they think about the slave part

[91:13] But I think that's an excellent rebuttal if someone yeah is like get me a real diamond

[91:19] Dude also are there are there any honest real diamonds?

[91:23] Honest real diamonds, what do you mean like like not blood diamonds? Oh, I don't think so

[91:30] I could be I don't know anything about the diamond world

[91:33] I just know that the majority of them are like yeah in mines in Africa or South America or something like that but

[91:42] Yeah, I also I mean you think about that whole situation how much of that's just been marketing from like the diamond industry

[91:48] Of like you need this thing in your wedding and like how much we we have just fit like fallen for that fucking trap

[91:54] I'll be like yeah, we need this rock

[91:57] Yeah

[91:57] Which granny is like the hardest rock effort right? It's hard the hardest rock and they use like diamond

[92:05] Drills and shit to like mine stuff. So it does have a function which is pretty tight

[92:11] but

[92:12] I don't know

[92:15] Guess synthetic diamonds. Oh dude

[92:17] This was gonna be a bit I was thinking about so

[92:21] When I was driving home, I saw a billboard for um

[92:25] It was like a hospital and it was just a picture of a woman like in the woman power stance with like one one hand on their hip kind of like

[92:31] Yeah, we did it sassy stance. Yes sassy stance. Hell yeah and

[92:36] It was just a quote that said I'm not a number and we've all heard heard that right like at a hospital system

[92:42] If you've ever been in the hospital system

[92:44] It's like they you get treated kind of in a non-human way a lot of times where they poke around

[92:49] You know billings a huge issue in shunts and shit. It's always hell if you're going through a lot of percent

[92:56] And that phrase I'm not a number or I'm not a statistic is common nowadays right like I'm a person

[93:02] I matter. Yeah, yeah, yeah

[93:04] But you subtract the context from that like take out anyone having ever said that

[93:09] It looks like a billboard for person who's just fucking crazy going. I'm not a number

[93:15] I just imagined the therapist working with a woman who's like

[93:21] I'm seven. I'm number seven

[93:23] She's like we got to break it out at this you're not that you're Julie

[93:28] You're Julie. It's like how Monday I was five plus two one on two days was four plus three and on Wednesday

[93:35] I might be like

[93:36] 21 divided three that's really empowering for that person to be like I'm not a number

[93:42] That's beautiful fucking crazy

[93:45] Dude, I don't know what was she wearing like what this standard clothes just I don't know if I would have gotten that

[93:53] Telling you brains weird

[93:55] But no, I was saying I don't think I would have understood the billboard if I saw I think I would have had the same thought as you like what the fuck?

[94:03] What was it advertising for just it's a hot the

[94:09] There's surely the concept yeah of like this hospital will treat you like a person so like it is a hospital name

[94:17] Yeah, so okay, you know small in the corner, but that you couldn't I can I know what a hospital was

[94:22] It was such small it was like literally giant picture for giant picture of the quote. I was like what the fuck this is fucking weird

[94:30] But yeah

[94:32] Good stuff

[94:33] All right, oh dude, I watched a fucked up horror movie smile. Yeah, did you see it? No, oh dude have you seen it follows? No

[94:44] I'm not a horror movie guy. Okay. I need to tell you about this movie all right. There's well first let me tell you about it follows

[94:50] Bear with me audience. They're good movies. I'm a big horror dude. I love fucking watching horror films, but

[94:56] There's a movie guy in general, right? Yeah, dude. I fucking love some more movies dude. Dude, we should man

[95:02] I also watched the department. I was home, which is always so good. So good dude

[95:07] smile well

[95:08] I think it's made but well, I don't want to make a consumption this movie it follows which came out a while ago the concept was

[95:16] This thing demon whatever you want to call it once it has its sights on you and it wants to like take you

[95:23] It just takes the form of a random person. Maybe you know this person or maybe it's just some random person

[95:30] That is always coming towards you and if it gets to you it kills you and it sounds like such as like a simple concept

[95:38] Dude, it's a movie filled with like

[95:40] You never know who's coming towards there's one scene is walking towards you

[95:45] And there's so many just horrifying creepy scenes like there's one where she's sitting in a classroom because she's in college and the the angle is like

[95:53] To her face and out like the window and you just see like people walking on a college campus and like the class is going on

[95:59] And like in the distance you can see like an old woman and just like a nightgown

[96:04] Like walking textbook scare. Oh my god

[96:07] Like

[96:08] Talking about does not give it justice and how fucking creepy is and it's just like

[96:12] Slowly building scenes of hurt like you always have to be on the move because it's always following you

[96:17] And you have to like get away from it and it kills people

[96:21] So I don't want to ruin it if you're gonna watch it, but you're not a horror guy. So if I'll ruin it

[96:26] I kind of want to watch it. All right. All right. That'd be a fun one to watch

[96:28] But I want to make you watch horror movies. I like watching horror movies with people. Okay. It's fucking solid

[96:34] And the whole thing's got 80s retro vibes the people who directed and shot it. It's so good

[96:39] That's a way to just make anything work now just put 80s music in it that time like that what a time that

[96:45] Really?

[96:46] I wasn't even alive to that that is

[96:50] Hot take here. Yeah, do

[96:52] Stranger things socks people like it for the nostalgia. Yep. Absolutely. It's like

[96:58] The biggest Steven Spielberg knockoff like the vibe of a bunch of kids fighting just all good vibes

[97:04] The music I know everything it's it got me in yeah for a little bit

[97:10] By the end of the first season. I was like that. What yeah?

[97:13] It's just it kind of started to lose its meaning. It was just like

[97:15] Like you said for the vibe of it

[97:17] It was it was just the feeling of like the 80s and the synth and the yeah the look and everything it's like well. Yeah cool

[97:24] But that time always looks awesome. It's time and history. So anyway

[97:29] smile

[97:31] Similar kind of concept with like a demon thing

[97:34] But when it possesses you

[97:37] You start seeing people that just are like

[97:40] Smiling at you in a really creepy way. You're smiling at me right now dude

[97:45] And it once again not seeing it sounds kind of silly but man doesn't get on your skin

[97:52] And I've seen a lot of horror movies. Oh

[97:55] Just like these you never know if it's someone that's actually there similar to the it follows thing

[98:00] You don't know if it's a person or if it's the demon thing just like following you and getting closer and then it chooses to like consume you and then

[98:08] It's oh god. It's it's horrifying. I'm sure freaked out right now dude. We should watch it falls and then that one is there so I was very

[98:18] Uh

[98:19] Impressed because you know as with many movies

[98:22] There's a lot of bullshit ones out there like stuff just seem pumped out all the time. That's lower quality

[98:27] Smile was fucking salad in terms of horror is like damn dude people are still doing it people are still making shit

[98:32] That's like

[98:33] It's good to see a refreshing good movie. Yeah, that's not just a cookie cutter. There's no better feeling. Yeah, so anyway

[98:41] Yeah, if we're gonna watch them. I don't want to talk anymore about it because they're fucking

[98:45] Good shit. All right, let's see. Oh, I saw the new Chris rock special which was

[98:51] It's pretty good. I started it. Yeah, I fell asleep to it

[98:55] There's a weird

[98:57] I don't want to I don't want to bash Chris rock because he's fucking all he's the man. I

[99:03] Loved his his Elon Musk joke. I was just so unexpecting. Yeah

[99:08] there

[99:08] I think most of it was good and I don't want to talk about the rest of it because you haven't seen the rest of it but

[99:15] Whenever comics do the thing of they'll say something to get not a laugh with applause I fucking

[99:22] cringe like

[99:24] Air it just feels wrong it feels weird

[99:26] Yeah, people are going up to like make a statement and I'm like isn't this a nice comedy? Yeah, no

[99:33] I don't like that. He did once again

[99:36] By majority of it was awesome, but there's times where like same stuff to get a

[99:40] Like yeah, you go Chris. I'm like. Yeah, what are we doing?

[99:44] Yeah

[99:45] What am I watching there's a lot of people out to that dude? It's it's I like a good applause every now and then but

[99:52] Yeah, if you're you're just setting out. I feel like Dave Chappelle opened that door up of having like intellectuals

[99:58] I was just gonna say I feel like his most recent stand-up was just

[100:02] Means he's like philosophizing on yeah, which is a word but once again

[100:07] I don't want to bash anyone's craft

[100:11] Yeah, I love shot an open mic

[100:16] Go

[100:18] It's like when you go to prison you got to hit the biggest guy in the face first so that everyone knows not to fuck with you

[100:25] Is that a good that's a good tip. Yeah, dude

[100:29] But in the beginning like ship house first couple of new specials. I was like it was pretty cool

[100:34] I like the intellectual break thing. Yeah, but now it's it starts to feel empty sometimes because it's like

[100:41] You just gotta make sure your the goal is being funny. Yeah, that has to be I love a good if you can get an awesome point across

[100:50] Yeah, well, it's funny. It's that's awesome. Yeah, if you're funny for the sake of being funny equally awesome. Yeah, but

[100:57] Yeah, a lot of people I feel like just I feel like once you get further in your comedy career

[101:03] People try to start saying things on stage instead of just be funny. Yeah, which another one I watched recently

[101:09] Which had his socks because I love this guy that Andrew Santino he had his new special called cheeseburger

[101:18] Um, man, I don't want to say that because he's so fucking funny in everything else

[101:23] I've seen him in and he's a phenomenal area watch the show Dave with little dickie

[101:26] That was the first time I saw my guys hilarious

[101:28] And then him and bad friends with Bobby Lee is probably still the funniest podcast. I've ever watched my entire life

[101:35] So I don't want to bash him, but I it I watched that and I was like

[101:39] Man, it just shows how hard stand up is I think guys are so talented

[101:44] There was some fun or something there like him talking about like Biden trying to go down basement stairs

[101:49] Kamala's trying to like trap him and then he's like

[101:52] Kababana like see you in there like that

[101:55] That was pretty good, but he had a lot of those preachy things. Yeah, lower. He's like

[102:00] Uh, how about like fuck COVID and like what?

[102:04] What are we doing? Yeah, it's so funny. Stop it breaks my heart, but he's awesome

[102:09] I'm just being dick and I'll probably go up. What if I just went and open like and only talk about?

[102:14] Yeah, just talk about literally like you know if you'd start doing a lap hole down down to your chest and

[102:21] I would laugh my ass off and the rest of the crowd are basically they'd boom me

[102:25] I think maybe the first show you saw tomatoes thrown at just smacking me in the fucking face that you'd have to be so bad to get boot

[102:32] I don't open my dude when did we get rid of the tomato era?

[102:35] Where were you just talking tomatoes? I'd be or just vegetable studio. Have you ever been hit by fruit?

[102:41] No, I think so. Have you heard so fucking bad. When are you getting hit by a fruit?

[102:47] I

[102:48] Was this really sure

[102:49] I was in Florida. Coconut just I don't know the coconuts fruit. Now it's our story another time

[102:59] Okay, I'm gonna write that one down because we're not forgetting your fruit trauma story

[103:04] This is where like all your actual fear of concussions come from this is fucking fruit story. You just got bonked

[103:09] Hold on. I need to write that

[103:11] All right, okay, this is the last thing we'll talk about because we're come up on to

[103:17] so

[103:20] Recently I'm pretty sure the federal government

[103:23] No, trust me. I'm not gonna go. It's not gonna go that way. This is kind of a it's it's a weirdly good thing, but I think it's

[103:30] This is probably really bad take on this all right. I feel like a lot of people will be mad if I took this stance

[103:36] Had a strong opinion on it here

[103:38] They capped the insulin price to 35 dollars

[103:43] For like a month's worth of insulin which apparently insulin has been

[103:49] Pretty expensive way more expensive than 35 dollars a month for full supply

[103:55] This is good

[103:57] In terms of people will not die because they can't get insulin right and for type one cheaper more accessible

[104:06] Yeah, and for type one diabetics. I'm like hell yeah

[104:10] Type ones the one that

[104:14] Listen

[104:15] Is gonna come off is really mean this is not I don't want people to not have insulin. I don't I don't

[104:22] This is

[104:25] Spittin out

[104:25] Type ones the one you get genetically right so you have no choice your lifestyle doesn't really affect it

[104:29] You can probably mitigate it with some of the stuff like the plant-based stuff. I was talking about last time

[104:33] They've shown some reversal or maintain. I already know where you're going with this

[104:37] Free mark your free market guy right

[104:40] Well, I don't know if that's you want the market pressure to no no no no no no no no no no no no or maybe that's where I'm going with it type two

[104:48] You get it is totally lifestyle it's earned it's earned by what you do

[104:53] By bringing

[104:54] Insulin down and making everyone have access in a nation that is 70% of us are overweight 30% obese

[105:01] I feel like we're just gonna lean in heavier type two diabetes typically a disease that comes with just

[105:09] Eating terribly and being overweight no bees so that the the quick fix so to say that's what I'm saying is easier to get

[105:17] We're putting a bandaid on a huge problem like your limbs severed and you put a bandaid on the nub like

[105:24] The once again. This is not me saying people should not write insulin, but it's like we're building

[105:30] No, it's the outcome gonna be we're yeah, we're building a world that like

[105:34] And talking to wrong the people on those insulin could be trying to do better

[105:38] But we're like opening the door of people to be like I

[105:41] Could just keep I stay on this and continue to get fatter and I'm more unhealthy when when you have two choices

[105:47] Keep taking insulin or get healthier

[105:51] And the insulin choice becomes easier dude, and you I mean you talk less less forcing pressure to get healthy

[105:57] And you look at any of the historical data on

[106:01] How we go about resolving illness in first world countries. It's always pills

[106:06] It's always procedure. It's never lifestyle where we're just furthering this this momentum of

[106:14] Continuity. I mean eventually we're gonna die from it. We're like artificially propping up life

[106:19] And then people die like

[106:20] Interorable weird ways and there aren't even there half the time by the time they're 60 in their head

[106:25] It's I'm coming from a place of

[106:28] We need a movement that's like

[106:30] For getting healthier at the core

[106:33] Not more of the drug stuff

[106:35] But they do have the purpose there's there's an analogy and antidepressants as well

[106:39] An analogy well just it's it's it's similar how like that's a oh yeah

[106:46] It's very hard to get off antidepressants and they're they're better as a short-term solution versus a long-term solution

[106:53] Yeah, and it's it's create it literally in the past couple of weeks. There's been

[106:58] two

[106:59] separate studies that came out relating to antidepressants which are

[107:03] Exercising does better and then we're talking about like 30 minutes of walking

[107:08] five times a week

[107:09] does better than counseling and medication combined and

[107:15] The side effects of most of those SSRIs that most commonly prescribed antidepressants are suicidal thoughts dude

[107:23] And then you don't have a libido you can't get fucking hard like

[107:27] It's just the side effect is what you're trying to do it. It's so fucked man and it most doctors

[107:35] Will not be like

[107:37] What's your lifestyle like to like oh your sad will prescribe you this and it's not their fault

[107:41] They just they have they have to see 40 patients that they have a 10 minute window to figure you out right

[107:46] And there's big pharma who's also like

[107:49] Behind all that too. It's just it's weird. It's weird to see the momentum of how sick can we get until someone's like

[107:57] We can't keep doing this now

[108:00] On the other side of it will just be healthy people

[108:05] So there's always that positive

[108:07] Yeah, that's great. Yeah, dude. I mean I'd rather see people get healthy, but

[108:13] I also can't tell anyone how to live their life

[108:16] If you want to die in a puddle of vomit because what are you gonna

[108:20] Let's take the reverse. What if they hiked up the price of insulin. What do you think happens? People die

[108:27] I mean that do you think anyone gets better when they wouldn't have

[108:31] I think anyone makes a decision to get healthier

[108:35] I think I think a lot I think people will die

[108:40] Well, but now fuck dude. Now I feel bad

[108:44] Because I think of someone you ever seen like a video of someone who's extremely obese

[108:49] just

[108:51] I saw one of this guy who was like 700 pounds and just like

[108:55] Eating 11 ice cream things from an ice cream truck in the morning. Just this whole his whole day. They were just documenting his whole day

[109:03] Not like I never feel more sad than I do

[109:08] Look watching someone like that suffer because it's addiction in just a different form

[109:12] But that that one is what dude

[109:14] It's so sad to see someone like enable to move

[109:18] Yeah, oh my god, and then it's a deeper thing. I like they just love food. No, it's always a deeper thing

[109:25] It's any it's once again this person can just be have been addicted to heroin

[109:29] And that would be their thing and they would not be overweight

[109:32] It's just is taken form in the comfort of food. Yeah

[109:35] But man dude, it's it's so sad

[109:38] And every time like that's half the reason why I want to get certified as a personal trainer

[109:42] And I haven't even like trained anyone is because whenever I see someone really overweight

[109:46] There's something in me that's like

[109:49] I need to help this person

[109:51] I just don't know how because it's so complex. No, cuz I'll start eating but fuck anyway

[109:58] We're at two hours

[109:59] I say we ended with uh

[110:04] What if either a you had a crying moment in the past four days or be

[110:10] Something that made you just like

[110:12] Well, I guess the crying ones from a happy well crying to be a sad thing

[110:15] But how about like something on the happy note

[110:18] That happened the past four days. I was gonna say this last time, but I didn't I hit my bench goal that I wanted dude

[110:25] What did you hit two twenty five dude? That's a good fucking

[110:28] Yeah, I was able to do that back in high school

[110:32] Yeah, and lost it for a while and I was two twenty five two plates. It's like

[110:37] That was like a big deal. It's a standard of feeling like a badass. Yeah

[110:41] Yeah

[110:41] I know like let me just get back to that and I get back to it dude. That's awesome

[110:47] There's no better feeling when you're making those fucking games dude

[110:51] I like that. Yeah dude

[110:54] If you think I'm gonna get you but if you want to I will get you to a place like fuck dude

[110:59] My body can do this it's awesome man. It's dude sounds like I'm getting like a new superpower or something. Yeah

[111:05] I'm gonna give you bionic legs

[111:08] That's a program I can chop off your legs. What's in your brain surgery?

[111:15] Um, but that's an awesome one. I'm trying to think of in the past four days

[111:23] What did you do

[111:26] I'm out here getting better. What you do

[111:31] I

[111:32] It's there's a it's a bittersweet feeling, but I've lived with for a long time

[111:37] And this is the last we're we're splitting up so to speak. It's a crime moment

[111:42] No, I mean

[111:44] I mean it's but it's a feeling of

[111:50] Like I mean he's moving and we're still gonna pay all five of them like before we lived with each other

[111:55] We just hung out all the fucking time. Yeah, but uh

[111:59] I've never lived alone ever and it feels there's once again the bearness is

[112:06] Not living with a good friend, but then like there's this spark of like adventure

[112:11] Because then

[112:13] You've been in relationships before and I'm not obviously dating or fucking

[112:18] But it's like a it's it's when you live with someone. I feel like there's a level of comfort

[112:23] Like what happens when I'm dating someone we're like yeah, I kind of slide into like oh, I have my social

[112:30] Thing here, you know, so I it's nice to know like someone will walk through that you could just talk to

[112:36] Yeah, and it like that has made me into just not

[112:41] Wanting to go do I feel like I have it all and I'm getting really really comfortable and the living alone feels like a real spark of like

[112:49] Okay, I got to like it's only me now

[112:52] It's me and myself and I got to work on this and I got it happen

[112:56] Yeah, and it's exciting like it it's gonna be hard

[112:59] Yeah, but it sounds really exciting to me in terms of like gonna start working out gonna start doing open mics

[113:04] We're doing the podcast gonna do the improv thing like just

[113:08] Explore all this shit and I'm nice 29 I got the world ahead of me

[113:15] Now I have some of my friends of time. I've also never lived alone. Yeah, so my friends that live together currently

[113:20] we're saying like

[113:23] When they split up eventually, mm-hmm, they'll be more intentional about hanging out and seeing each other like they'll maybe make a weekly

[113:31] whatever night and

[113:32] And it you kind of potentially make the bond stronger in that way versus just

[113:38] Uh, this person's always here, you know kind of just built in yeah, there's there's

[113:45] Not to talk to a different. Yeah, not to talk too long on it, but there's also there's the side also of like

[113:52] Well

[113:53] If we live separately or with if I live with anyone there's always a level of like I want my space this way

[113:59] Everyone has their different take on how they want to space

[114:02] And I'm nice worlds in that way you want to banchen the kitchen dude straight up

[114:08] But there's just there's such differences there

[114:10] But like we've been cool enough to the point of what we live for seven years, but yeah

[114:14] Not having that I feel like we'll definitely strengthen relationship because it no matter who you are

[114:20] If you start seeing someone like slacking and doing something or maintain something you start to like

[114:25] Some consciously or consciously be like what the fuck like you start to

[114:30] Respect starts to kind of go down because you're right

[114:33] We're we have to both do this thing now. I'm just doing a thing and like it happens both ways

[114:37] But it's just it's not that party sees it is not conducive for like

[114:43] Yeah, dude, I want to like hang out more when it's like fuck dude. You're not even clean up your shit. Yeah, but

[114:49] Anyway

[114:51] All that being said exciting new happy stuff new chapter fucking literally

[114:55] Sent the application today, so it's it's finalized ish

[115:00] So

[115:02] It's kind of done finalized it like that. Yeah, all right on that note

[115:08] Thanks for tuning in again, and we'll see you next week

[115:12] Bye-bye. Love you all