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Episode 20 · 2026-04-08 · 12,451 words
The hosts dive into various 'fake problems' including the psychology of Amazon reviews, the awkwardness of certain medical specialties, and a personal experiment with non-alcoholic beer. They also explore topics ranging from space exploration economics to the therapeutic uses of ketamine, all while maintaining their signature blend of humor and genuine curiosity.

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[0:00] and we're back to an audio of the fake problems by the end.

[0:06] And today we're going to open up with fun.

[0:10] So when you're on Amazon, do you ever look at the reviews for?

[0:13] I would have met all the time.

[0:15] Yeah, if you go over by something.

[0:16] And how often do you get turned away from the product

[0:20] because of a word?

[0:22] Pretty often.

[0:23] Yeah, if it's bad, though, I'll look for something else.

[0:26] So let me ask you this.

[0:28] Even when there's like almost an overwhelmingly positive ratio

[0:32] of good reviews, has there ever been a reason you just got to find the bad ones?

[0:36] Sorry, finished question.

[0:38] That's why I'm asking is like, because I personally,

[0:40] I have, there's been more good reviews by far.

[0:43] And I find one that someone just had the worst experience with the product.

[0:46] And I got to find out by this.

[0:48] Yeah, that's all it takes.

[0:50] Yeah, I mean, you can manufacture positive reviews.

[0:52] You can just spam those out.

[0:54] That's, I have heard the most honest ones live at the two stars and the four stars.

[0:59] I believe that because it's still something,

[1:01] having something rather the product at four and at two, there's still something.

[1:03] Yeah, even if there's a bunch of four stars, I'm kind of like, what's going on here?

[1:07] It is weird.

[1:07] It is weird.

[1:08] I also have, I don't think I've ever seen anything with a mostly negative review on Amazon.

[1:13] No, I feel like that would take it down.

[1:15] Yeah, you can't just keep it up there.

[1:19] People are just shitting on it.

[1:22] We should look for one.

[1:24] What do you think would have the worst review on Amazon?

[1:25] There's got to be something that has brutal reviews.

[1:28] Oh, wait, sugar-free gummy bears.

[1:30] That's a classic.

[1:31] Really?

[1:32] Have you heard of that?

[1:32] No.

[1:33] Why would I be able to review?

[1:34] Did it taste terrible?

[1:35] Anyway, if you heard of this story of what this dude eats sugar-free gummy bears and

[1:41] whatever the substance or the substitute for sugar is, it makes you shit your brains out.

[1:46] And it's one of the funniest online reviews you could ever read.

[1:50] He's like, I'm sitting on the floor praying for forgiveness.

[1:52] Just wondering what I did to deserve this.

[1:55] It's hilarious.

[1:56] But a whole lot.

[1:57] Is the review, is that just one really bad reviewer is the most...

[2:00] I think there's a lot of them.

[2:01] I think there's a lot of them.

[2:02] That should be a project for the next podcast.

[2:05] There's got to be top 10 most negatively reviewed products on Amazon.

[2:10] It's kind of, yeah, I don't even know how do you go about that.

[2:13] It's fun to think what price.

[2:14] Someone's done research.

[2:15] There's someone somewhere that is found.

[2:17] I just want ones where there's more bad than good.

[2:20] I guarantee someone's gone on that journey and found ones that are way more bad than good.

[2:25] But I just wonder what types of products would we prone to get bad reviews?

[2:28] That's a great question.

[2:30] Because anything I've looked at, I've never seen it.

[2:33] I've never seen one that had more bad than good.

[2:35] So I don't know what you'd be looking at.

[2:37] Maybe like a food thing?

[2:38] That's something that makes you shit your brains out.

[2:41] That's gotta be.

[2:42] Or like something that requires, like, because you can buy frozen food sometimes.

[2:48] Which I don't even understand how that works.

[2:51] Like, is it in a freezer?

[2:53] That's a wild move.

[2:54] Through all of the transportation, because I can't imagine it is.

[2:57] They don't get a freezer in the bag of that Amazon drug.

[3:00] At least I don't think so.

[3:02] Can you use order food from Amazon?

[3:05] I think I've seen you can get some frozen food on Amazon.

[3:08] Or stuff that like typically you would need cold.

[3:10] Involved.

[3:12] Yeah.

[3:12] Yeah, that's good.

[3:14] That's a good candidate.

[3:15] Yeah.

[3:15] Whatever you bought, thought out.

[3:18] Yeah.

[3:18] Yeah.

[3:19] I can't think of something else on the time I had.

[3:21] But I'll share the review I saw though while we ponder on this topic.

[3:25] No, okay.

[3:25] But I was going to buy seaweed because it's a product that like,

[3:30] unless you go to like an international store or like an international market store,

[3:33] it's you can't find a lot of goods.

[3:34] And hopefully we had some stuff.

[3:35] I like seaweed.

[3:36] This is a new thing for me.

[3:37] It's pretty good.

[3:39] It's great.

[3:39] It's really rich in eye.

[3:40] It's good for you.

[3:40] Yeah, yeah.

[3:41] It's got a lot of iodine too, which most people don't get in their diet.

[3:43] Unless they use iodine salt.

[3:44] Any seafood or eat dairy or eat eggs.

[3:47] So I guess it's mostly greedy, mostly plants.

[3:50] It's a tough to get.

[3:51] But like,

[3:52] the yeah, anyway,

[3:54] when looking for seaweed found a seaweed that I had not bought before.

[3:58] And I was like,

[3:59] I'm going to try something else.

[4:00] And it was like overwhelmingly positive.

[4:03] But then there was a,

[4:05] I think a one star review.

[4:07] And the review was literally,

[4:09] this smell so fishy.

[4:12] It's like, it's seaweed.

[4:13] It's got like, I've never come across a seaweed that's ever smelled not fishy

[4:18] or tasted a little fishy.

[4:20] It's from the Oceans.

[4:22] Yeah, like the fishy taste.

[4:23] Like you walk by the seafood section in the supermarket that smells fishy.

[4:27] Yeah, but it's there's someone somewhere that was like,

[4:30] I can't believe this.

[4:34] Bought seaweed.

[4:36] The name sees,

[4:37] or the word sees the fish.

[4:38] There is, I mean,

[4:39] have you heard with fish?

[4:41] I don't know if you eat a lot of fish.

[4:42] But that's like a typical criticism.

[4:44] If it tastes fishy,

[4:46] ironically, that's like a bad thing.

[4:48] True.

[4:48] But it's like,

[4:51] I guess it would,

[4:53] if this person maybe gave like a,

[4:55] this is way fissure than this other product.

[4:57] It was just, this is fishy.

[4:59] Yeah, most of them in the first seaweed.

[5:01] Could have been.

[5:02] It's like anything from the sea typically has that fissure.

[5:05] But I hear what you're saying,

[5:06] because there are fish that like you eat like this way,

[5:08] way fissure in general.

[5:11] But yeah.

[5:11] To review it though.

[5:13] To feel that strongly about it.

[5:16] I've never reviewed, have you ever reviewed anything?

[5:18] No.

[5:19] Nor have I.

[5:20] I feel like there,

[5:22] it's a good thing to do because it's like,

[5:25] it's public service.

[5:26] It is do.

[5:26] You're helping other people out.

[5:27] It's almost an altruistic thing

[5:29] unless you're

[5:30] looking for something in return,

[5:32] which on Amazon reviews,

[5:33] you're not going to,

[5:34] you're rarely going to get like,

[5:35] a company reaching out to you,

[5:37] I think,

[5:37] to be like, oh, we're so sorry about this.

[5:39] It's a thankless job.

[5:40] Yeah.

[5:41] So it's like,

[5:42] by leading tweeting at companies,

[5:44] usually gets results.

[5:45] Yes, a little bit more public facing,

[5:47] which is kind of crazy to think how,

[5:49] like you probably just do that,

[5:51] not have any experience with that company.

[5:53] And probably they'd probably give you something.

[5:55] Yeah, I feel like, yeah,

[5:56] I'm this flight with the worst flight I ever had.

[5:58] They put me in the back and someone

[6:00] diary it all over my fucking lap.

[6:02] And the skiers licked it off my lap.

[6:04] Or something crazy.

[6:05] Maybe like,

[6:06] have freedom.

[6:07] And it'd probably be fine.

[6:12] But yeah.

[6:13] So that's the Amazon thing.

[6:15] We can go to the next one.

[6:16] Unless we have any other,

[6:17] I can't even know the product

[6:18] that would be overwhelmingly reviewed negative.

[6:22] Now we'll do some research.

[6:24] I haven't done research in a while.

[6:26] I have topics that I was going to look into.

[6:29] Like what, do you remember?

[6:31] We talked about powering the world

[6:34] with the Sahara Desert.

[6:35] I want to do like a deep dive on that one.

[6:38] Haven't done anything.

[6:39] I had a weird conversation recently

[6:40] that I was like,

[6:42] what, like,

[6:44] someone would,

[6:46] actually someone you know,

[6:48] or have met, I should say, was they're like,

[6:50] talking, we're talking about space stuff

[6:52] and innovation and space sacks and like,

[6:55] the energy problem and what people are talking about.

[6:59] Like it's one of those conversations

[7:00] where I got 10 minutes into it.

[7:01] And I'm like,

[7:02] are you just,

[7:04] like the things you're telling me

[7:06] just don't make any sense.

[7:07] Like the person was saying that

[7:10] for the worries energy on this planet,

[7:13] which I feel like it's a talking point more than anything.

[7:16] They're like,

[7:16] the energy.

[7:18] Well, the topic was energy

[7:20] and the topic moved to space and like,

[7:22] what do we gain from going to the moon?

[7:25] Because apparently,

[7:26] apparently China is trying to establish

[7:29] like some kind of space,

[7:30] space on the moon.

[7:32] And in my head, not being a space person,

[7:34] I was like,

[7:35] what's on the moon other than

[7:36] that they're being like ego-involved for the nation.

[7:39] I'm like, we got to the moon.

[7:40] and they're like,

[7:41] all they can do all this mining,

[7:42] they're like,

[7:43] for what?

[7:44] And how are they going to get it back?

[7:46] Like, it's not just like we,

[7:47] we mining that we can just like send it back to Earth.

[7:50] It's like,

[7:51] the thing where mining has to be

[7:53] worth the billions of dollars

[7:55] that we require to send things to and from.

[7:57] And then he's like,

[7:59] well,

[8:00] they're the thing that you'd all see is for energy

[8:02] and like just line

[8:04] some part of the moon with solar panels.

[8:06] And like,

[8:08] so we're gonna,

[8:09] we're gonna build infrastructure on the moon

[8:12] to generate

[8:13] solar energy there

[8:14] and then ship it back in batteries.

[8:17] He's like, yeah, I was like,

[8:18] paleo.

[8:19] And then I brought this to a hair desert thing.

[8:20] I was like,

[8:22] we had the,

[8:23] like,

[8:24] the stories are always wrapped in this like,

[8:26] the moon is the only way we could pull this off.

[8:28] It's like,

[8:29] why would we do it on the moon?

[8:31] That should be the question.

[8:32] We can do that here in a bunch of different ways

[8:34] and we don't have to have space in between us

[8:36] to get the energy.

[8:37] It's just like,

[8:39] I don't know, I don't know.

[8:40] It was such a weird place in that

[8:42] it's a hair desert thing to remind me of

[8:43] or someone's like solar panels on the moon.

[8:45] I think there's something with like

[8:46] the atmosphere is less so you can

[8:48] there's no atmosphere.

[8:50] There you go.

[8:50] So you can absorb this or you be

[8:52] whatever into the solar panels.

[8:53] But it's like,

[8:53] that can't be enough to offset like the cost.

[8:57] It would take to just do in the

[8:58] sehar desert.

[8:59] We're far out from doing that cheaply.

[9:01] Someday maybe,

[9:02] but like maybe.

[9:04] I get striving to be like a space

[9:08] civilization,

[9:08] which is effectively what space X is trying to do.

[9:12] Right, but we're far out from that.

[9:14] But it's like,

[9:15] when we look at goals and goals setting,

[9:18] to have a,

[9:19] as a species,

[9:21] well, to have a goal for the sake of a goal

[9:24] is not a good goal.

[9:25] And when people talk about a lot of this space,

[9:27] like moon space space,

[9:28] it's like,

[9:29] but why?

[9:31] We can go there to go there,

[9:32] then to be honest about it.

[9:33] It's it's hubris.

[9:35] It's right.

[9:35] That's why we went in the first place,

[9:37] which I do think is a good reason.

[9:40] Yes, I think this space race was good.

[9:43] We had competing nations.

[9:45] Yeah, people were gun hole about their country and what not.

[9:48] But it's like,

[9:49] now what are we doing?

[9:50] It's like,

[9:51] it's short of teleportation.

[9:52] I don't know how much more we can do.

[9:54] Like it's like, dude, we,

[9:56] you gotta think bigger in my friend.

[9:58] Well,

[9:59] a lot of physicists today say the biggest

[10:02] I shouldn't say a lot.

[10:04] One guy I listen to.

[10:06] Nice.

[10:07] Which I agree with them because his whole thing is that physics

[10:11] has not had an actual innovation in a long, long, long, long time.

[10:15] Is it a request?

[10:16] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[10:17] And I was like,

[10:18] huh, and they went and looked.

[10:19] It's like, yeah, there's not really been,

[10:21] did you see the theoretical physics?

[10:23] There's been nothing.

[10:24] Right, there's been nothing.

[10:25] And like recently they had physicists

[10:26] who won the Nobel Prize for like AI stuff,

[10:28] which is like, yeah, it's not physics.

[10:30] Everyone's giving it shuddy on them.

[10:31] He's like, yeah, they just went into a different area.

[10:34] It's like, that's why they could do it.

[10:35] And then his whole thing is that using chemical means to get places,

[10:41] we have to, we can't keep thinking that way.

[10:43] Because with like combustion,

[10:45] we can only go so far and so fast.

[10:47] You need nuclear fusion.

[10:49] But I don't know, but I don't, but like for travel,

[10:52] it's not an energy question.

[10:54] It's like, you can only burn things so hot to go so fast.

[10:58] So with nuclear, it's like,

[11:00] the propulsion still wouldn't be fast enough.

[11:03] And like we wouldn't have materials to be able to handle that level of propulsion.

[11:06] So I just think that there's a ceiling to that game.

[11:10] In terms of like how fast you can shoot something.

[11:13] You, you got to read this sci-fi series.

[11:15] I've been pushing on you three body problem.

[11:17] Oh, yeah, I watched a couple of episodes and that goes into all this stuff.

[11:21] Okay, the show I think does an okay job,

[11:23] but yeah, the book is unbelievable.

[11:26] It's three books.

[11:27] Okay, wait, so what will they talk about?

[11:29] They go into this where they like,

[11:32] we have to switch from internal combustion to nuclear fusion.

[11:36] Okay.

[11:36] If we want to advance further as a space society.

[11:39] And then it's just like, there's a whole like political debate about that.

[11:43] Like where we should put our resources.

[11:45] So would in that book would nuclear fusion or fission or whatever it is be like,

[11:51] it's a much more efficient way to generate energy.

[11:55] And if we can harness it and put it in an engine,

[11:59] that would be much better for space travel.

[12:01] Gotcha.

[12:02] And then it goes even further beyond that into like way more advanced out there.

[12:07] Mathematics.

[12:07] Got it, got it.

[12:07] Because energy is one part of the equation I had.

[12:10] But then it's like propulsion,

[12:12] like going to certain amount of speed is like,

[12:16] well, if something can zip us at light your speed,

[12:19] can we build something that can withstand that?

[12:22] Can we, can we, can we, can we, can we, can we, and we can expand that?

[12:24] Yeah.

[12:24] Like, and I don't think we're even close to that,

[12:27] like chemical means.

[12:28] These books are so cool because it is sci-fi,

[12:30] but a lot of it is like, stuff that is close,

[12:34] like stuff that might be feasible.

[12:36] So one thing they talk about is when you're jumping into not light speed,

[12:40] but like extremely fast space travel,

[12:43] yeah, you can, they have this stuff called deep sea fluid,

[12:47] which is effectively breathable liquid.

[12:49] Wow.

[12:50] And it, it like fills up your body, gets into your lungs.

[12:53] And because it's a liquid and not a gas,

[12:57] the motion doesn't like destroy your body

[12:59] because the pressure is equal inside of the side.

[13:03] That's pretty cool.

[13:03] And it's, it's fucking crazy.

[13:05] And then I looked up that concept and it's real.

[13:06] Like there's been research done on it.

[13:08] Whoa.

[13:08] And we're not quite at the point where we could like,

[13:11] pour liquid inside you like that.

[13:13] Yeah, but like I think they've done very controlled,

[13:16] minimal trials of like demonstrating you can breathe liquid.

[13:19] So like if they figured out more on that,

[13:22] they could open up doors to other things.

[13:24] That's so interesting because it's like,

[13:28] yeah, I don't even know because H2O,

[13:30] it's just like that compound we can't,

[13:33] like so many things go through my head of like the lungs

[13:35] need certain quality of matter like you.

[13:40] So to think that someone developed a liquid version

[13:42] is like going against like,

[13:44] it's very hard to imagine.

[13:46] Yeah, it's crazy.

[13:47] Like highly oxygenated liquid.

[13:49] I think one of the biggest challenges is like your lungs

[13:52] aren't robust enough to like,

[13:54] yeah, pump liquid.

[13:55] Yeah, I mean, dude, people like the reason you get pneumonia

[13:59] is you get a small amount of liquid in there.

[14:01] Yeah, a small amount.

[14:02] Yeah, yeah.

[14:03] So I think that someone's like, we're in a dump.

[14:05] But if it was like, you bick with us through your body

[14:07] and there's pressure on both sides,

[14:09] I think the theory is that could.

[14:11] And then yeah, I guess then you got to have a way to get it out

[14:13] at the end of the right now,

[14:15] because then you got to like just put a vacuum in.

[14:19] But not saying it can't be done.

[14:20] It's just super interesting that their science about it.

[14:23] All right, we got.

[14:25] It's crazy.

[14:25] We got Amazon reviews.

[14:28] Amazon reviews, I think we're good.

[14:29] I think pediatric urology is worthy of talking about.

[14:33] Tell me, tell me more.

[14:36] It's a weird, for me, I guess I get if you're like,

[14:40] when you're, if you want to be a pediatrician,

[14:43] you go, I want to help kids.

[14:46] Biggest.

[14:47] Why did you get into this line of work?

[14:49] That's a tough question to answer.

[14:51] Dude, if you're someone whose profession is looking at child genitals,

[14:55] which like don't even know, we need children, you're all just,

[14:58] but it's such like a, why did you choose this?

[15:02] And maybe it's so like you're so far in the medical field that like,

[15:05] at that point, it's so not.

[15:07] I doubt it's a dream from a young age.

[15:12] For some, there's got to be some out there that are like,

[15:14] oh man, I can't wait.

[15:16] I feel like a lot of medical people, they just pick a focus.

[15:20] Like as they're going through the school and all that.

[15:24] Yes, it is just such a unique,

[15:26] I never even thought of like, oh, of course, that's,

[15:29] that's got to be a field.

[15:30] Yeah.

[15:31] So it's like,

[15:33] I can just like a urologist in general.

[15:36] So like, why would you?

[15:38] Yeah, I mean, that one I can,

[15:41] yeah, no, that is also weird.

[15:43] The child, that's another layer of like,

[15:46] you want to look at child genitals?

[15:48] Not that they want to.

[15:49] I guess that's a weird way to put it, but it's like,

[15:51] but that is how it's like, you could have chosen any other thing.

[15:56] Most jobs, people in the line of thinking is like,

[15:58] oh, why'd you get into that?

[15:59] Oh, you want to do that.

[16:01] So yeah, it is weird.

[16:03] It is dude, fucking crazy.

[16:05] Again, we need it though, because there's children out there,

[16:08] apparently with urinary problems, but it's like,

[16:11] never crossed my mind.

[16:12] So do they take like the honorable way?

[16:15] Like, I'm doing this so no one has to.

[16:17] I feel like that's what you got to do.

[16:19] What other way would you spin it?

[16:21] But that even that sounds weird, saying it that way.

[16:26] I'll bite the bullet and look at these.

[16:29] Like the guy we're going to be, if you're going to be a child porn,

[16:32] I'll do it.

[16:33] I'll sacrifice myself.

[16:35] I don't like this stuff.

[16:38] It's just, I think that's the only way to answer that question.

[16:41] If you're at a party, someone goes,

[16:43] well, why'd you get into children's urology?

[16:45] And you go, well, it's a feel that there's a high demand for work there.

[16:50] And there's so many kids that don't have a urology specialist.

[16:53] That I think that's the only way you can spin it.

[16:55] I can't see a way.

[16:57] Honestly, I feel like no one would even dare to like,

[17:01] to take the line of like, why would you do that?

[17:04] I feel like there's a lot of respect that would come with.

[17:08] Just a doctor in the urologist.

[17:11] I think someone, okay, this is talking for me personally,

[17:13] but I could see myself asking it almost accidentally as like a social courtesy,

[17:19] where someone says something and just go,

[17:21] well, how'd you get into that?

[17:22] Not even thinking of like what I'm at.

[17:23] Sure.

[17:24] And I feel like that can happen.

[17:28] And in that situation, if they spin it any other way other than,

[17:32] there's a high demand there and I felt that the industry needed it,

[17:36] it just sounds like you're a pedophile.

[17:38] If you go, well, I always wanted to work in children's pediatrics,

[17:41] pedophile.

[17:42] Oh, I enjoy working with children's jandals, pedophile.

[17:46] Name one other job, where you can.

[17:49] Where you have full access to children's jandals.

[17:52] I don't think there's any other job.

[17:55] That might be the only one.

[17:56] I mean, the FBI watching child porn.

[17:58] But we're talking a doctor's like touching.

[18:00] Real, yes.

[18:02] That's a little separated, even though it's still probably,

[18:06] I mean, that's second in line in terms of.

[18:08] Dang, not great.

[18:10] Yeah, that's a fun.

[18:12] I never thought about that.

[18:13] I just want to find a fucking children's

[18:16] urologist and just talk.

[18:17] Just grill them.

[18:19] To be assaully brutal.

[18:21] Fucking what they call it.

[18:23] Not a puff piece.

[18:25] What do they call the opposite of a puff piece?

[18:27] Well, they write an article that's just like, damning.

[18:30] A deflate piece.

[18:32] A hit piece.

[18:33] Hit piece.

[18:34] There you go.

[18:35] Deflates a fun one.

[18:37] Oh.

[18:40] Okay.

[18:41] Well, I got nothing else on pediatric urology,

[18:44] but I think it's worth a,

[18:46] it's worth it's worth the question.

[18:48] I think it is.

[18:49] Why do people do it?

[18:50] I promise you and the fans.

[18:52] And if I ever run into one in real life,

[18:54] I will ask them.

[18:56] Good.

[18:56] Why did you get into this?

[18:58] Find one on a, on a hinge.

[19:01] Pediatric.

[19:02] You're.

[19:02] It's such a.

[19:03] Matrathon.

[19:04] I don't think of ever, I don't think I've ever seen anyone.

[19:08] That'd be tough to put on your hinge profile.

[19:11] Yeah, I think they just put Dr.

[19:13] out of the way.

[19:14] Well, I can hold on is, is that a specification?

[19:18] Is it just pediatrician?

[19:21] It can't be.

[19:23] Because like, yes, it's a kid, but like, there's got to be kids,

[19:28] neurologists, kids, uh, psychiatrists.

[19:30] Like, there's not.

[19:32] Or, or, or is it,

[19:35] is it, is it just a urologist?

[19:37] Is it like a pediatrician manages your kids care?

[19:40] And then would refer you to a urologist if you,

[19:44] that's a good, quite anything about that.

[19:45] Needed that might be that.

[19:48] I don't want to Google pediatric urologist.

[19:52] You're the research, holding this thing together.

[19:55] You might be right in that.

[19:57] There's not a.

[19:59] But there's like, there's children's versions of specialty doctors

[20:03] in almost every other field.

[20:05] Like, at children's.

[20:06] I don't know.

[20:07] Yes, I, I would think that there would be.

[20:09] It would be hilarious if that's the one that's never started.

[20:12] Because of the reasons we're talking about.

[20:14] They're like, we can't, we can't do this.

[20:16] If I was that, I think I would just say one or the other.

[20:19] I feel like I would say I'm a pediatrician.

[20:21] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[20:23] And then they'd be like, well,

[20:24] and then just infinite respect.

[20:26] Like everyone's, like, no one's going to say,

[20:28] you automatically are good.

[20:29] It's like, oh, you're in it for the day.

[20:32] You're for child cock.

[20:36] So yeah, that's a tough one.

[20:38] I think I kind of, I'm probably going to look it up later.

[20:41] And just, I mean, you brought, that's not a crazy Google search.

[20:44] Is there a difference between children's,

[20:45] yourologist and yourologist?

[20:47] Do they have their own doctor?

[20:49] So the craziest Google search?

[20:50] Yeah, there's way worse.

[20:52] They'll probably think you're like a parent.

[20:54] Probably, yeah.

[20:55] Like, I'm looking for care for my child.

[20:57] Yeah, should I just go to my, my yourologist?

[20:59] I'm like, finally, you have no kids.

[21:00] I'm like, what are you doing?

[21:02] I'm just entering this all in the chat GPT.

[21:04] It's building a case against me.

[21:07] Okay.

[21:09] Small penis rule in books to avoid claiming likeness.

[21:14] So that's why I've died.

[21:15] No idea what you meant by that.

[21:16] I'm sure I remember the like,

[21:19] that what's the small penis rule in books?

[21:24] I don't know.

[21:25] I'm trying to write a wrote that down.

[21:27] There's a rule about small penis as a books.

[21:29] And likeness beat.

[21:31] I think it's something like,

[21:34] I don't know.

[21:35] That makes me think like,

[21:40] if there's like an image of someone in a book,

[21:42] you have to give them a small penis

[21:45] to claim that it's not them or something.

[21:49] Yeah, maybe it might be like that.

[21:51] That sounds like it.

[21:53] I got a follow up on that one.

[21:54] Okay.

[21:55] Totally forgot what, why but the only big break dancer,

[21:57] I don't know, I feel like we've already done that.

[21:59] It's just yeah, everyone knows about her.

[22:01] Private sperm donation.

[22:08] It's opposed to.

[22:09] Supposed to.

[22:16] Let's think about this.

[22:17] It makes us sound like sneaky.

[22:19] Like, I'm giving you a secret dose of my sperm.

[22:22] People do that shit, right?

[22:23] I mean, people like literally have friends,

[22:25] like, like a couple will be like,

[22:27] we're trying to get pregnant.

[22:28] They'll just go like on the black market

[22:29] in quotes of just like asking a friend

[22:31] to come and it cop or something.

[22:32] And then they just object at themselves.

[22:34] I think that's what you're talking about.

[22:35] I think so, which is a hilarious concept to like,

[22:40] it'd be weird to be a vendor on the black market.

[22:43] Of private sperm donation.

[22:44] It'd be very professional terms.

[22:45] Yeah.

[22:47] A vendor being just a guy who's going to jack off for you.

[22:50] Just a host.

[22:51] And then how, when does that blend to like,

[22:54] just sex?

[22:56] Or someone's like, hey, I want you to put a baby in me.

[22:59] And I imagine it's usually like a lesbian couple

[23:01] lasting things.

[23:03] Yeah.

[23:03] Imagine it's not like a guy in a girl being like,

[23:05] hey, can my male friend give me his come?

[23:09] So we are thinking of do.

[23:10] Well, they, I mean, they, they,

[23:12] they none a cop and give it to them, right?

[23:14] Yeah.

[23:14] And they have to like,

[23:15] face it to themselves.

[23:16] Turkey, Baster.

[23:17] We all have that image in our heads.

[23:19] It's just a turkey.

[23:20] Yeah.

[23:20] I've, I have a man.

[23:23] I've been, I've based a few people.

[23:26] No, one of my friends showed me a picture

[23:29] of a kid once.

[23:30] She's like, see this kid.

[23:31] This kid was made by Turkey based in.

[23:34] Oh, wow.

[23:36] Cool.

[23:36] Yeah.

[23:37] Super random.

[23:38] Just out of party.

[23:40] I'm talking to a children's.

[23:41] Yeah, I think it's that party.

[23:43] Tons of yourologists there.

[23:45] Yourologist convention.

[23:48] But yeah, I, I mean, obviously, I've never come across

[23:50] Washington's ads.

[23:51] I've never been asked to donate to friends

[23:54] in terms of the form of come.

[23:55] But like, I would be honored to be asked.

[23:58] It really depends what it is.

[24:00] I don't know if I would do it, but it's that.

[24:01] That means like, hey, I want you.

[24:04] That's true.

[24:05] It's a very, very nice thing.

[24:07] Yeah.

[24:07] It's just, uh, and I guess the opposite is they,

[24:11] or if they don't do that, they do it with a random person,

[24:13] which I guess maybe, maybe it does make sense.

[24:16] But.

[24:17] Yeah, not in that cup, dude.

[24:19] I have so many people asking me.

[24:20] It's just, in my head, if I had any friend ask me,

[24:23] like, we're trying to have a kid.

[24:25] Can we use your sperm?

[24:26] Be such a.

[24:28] Because your friends, I feel like it's just,

[24:30] it's such a weird friend.

[24:32] It'd be weird to have like a best friend,

[24:34] and then their son is just your son.

[24:36] Yeah.

[24:38] That's crazy.

[24:39] That is crazy.

[24:40] Yeah, it almost have to be that.

[24:41] Do you, you might get that like, I want to be involved

[24:43] because it's my son.

[24:45] I, yeah, I feel like that totally happens.

[24:47] Yeah, absolutely.

[24:48] And then now you just cast that upon your life,

[24:50] where you have this situation of like,

[24:51] that's my kid.

[24:52] Yeah.

[24:53] That sounds terrible.

[24:55] Wow.

[24:58] Well, yeah, never doing that then.

[25:00] That sounds fucking awful.

[25:04] I'm trying to think like if,

[25:05] if do you think there's people in your life

[25:08] that you would do it for?

[25:09] No.

[25:10] No?

[25:11] No, like my friend.

[25:14] No.

[25:16] It'd be so weird.

[25:17] Also, most of the,

[25:19] because then you also know they're infertile.

[25:22] Yeah.

[25:24] There's a lot of,

[25:25] there's a lot of layers to it.

[25:27] I'm just like,

[25:28] I just, I guess maybe it's weird for me

[25:31] because I can never in my head see any of the women

[25:33] I'm friends with like,

[25:36] doing that.

[25:37] I think I have some great,

[25:39] good women friends, but it,

[25:40] there's no way you could be asked

[25:42] and it wouldn't be a complete shock.

[25:44] Exactly.

[25:45] That's so weird.

[25:46] Right, like I'm not, I'm not friends.

[25:47] Like if I was friends with like a lesbian

[25:48] couple who's trying,

[25:50] it would be a current.

[25:52] That'd be funny to be like,

[25:53] I got to be top of the list.

[25:55] I'm like, I know I'm up there.

[25:57] Well, like it wouldn't be a curve all that

[25:58] as opposed to now any one of the women

[26:00] I'm from when came to you're like,

[26:01] I need you to,

[26:02] I really want to have your kid,

[26:03] but I don't.

[26:04] The guy Mary just isn't caught in that.

[26:07] Yeah, I mean, that's even it.

[26:09] I wonder if that's that situation

[26:10] probably maybe has happened.

[26:13] Yes, the premise of Ted too.

[26:15] Just kidding.

[26:16] It's totally different.

[26:16] I just say I haven't seen Ted

[26:18] for a while.

[26:18] You could have just said that.

[26:20] I would've been like,

[26:21] oh, really?

[26:21] No, he's a Ted and his girlfriend

[26:23] are trying to have a baby,

[26:24] but Ted doesn't have a dick.

[26:26] So he needs a sperm donor.

[26:29] Gotcha.

[26:30] And he does he has Mark Walbert?

[26:32] Well, they tried to jerk off Tom Brady

[26:34] for a stint asleep and then they asked Mark Walbert.

[26:37] God, I haven't seen that movie since I came out.

[26:40] But okay, sperm donation private,

[26:44] hilarious.

[26:45] Also, I kind of want to know the running rate though.

[26:48] Of like,

[26:48] if there was a black market rate or yeah,

[26:51] because there's got to be,

[26:52] say it's not a friend, it's just someone who's like,

[26:54] you know, I just want some come out,

[26:56] pay 10 grand and whatever for coming.

[26:58] We got that way high.

[27:00] Not all the time.

[27:01] I've seen that.

[27:01] So I have so much.

[27:03] I've been storing it for years.

[27:04] Yeah, I'll end up sperm stay alive.

[27:07] Actually, question.

[27:08] I think I know this stuff because I've had

[27:10] refrigerated.

[27:11] Oh, refrigerated.

[27:12] No, I'm just down in the open.

[27:13] It dies pretty.

[27:14] I think they definitely like keep it for a while

[27:17] in sperm banks, right?

[27:18] They freeze it.

[27:19] Yeah, they freeze it.

[27:20] Yeah, which that freezing time,

[27:22] dude,

[27:22] freezers are crazy.

[27:24] Cold.

[27:25] At a certain threshold.

[27:27] I mean, does it?

[27:28] What is cold?

[27:29] Does it not blow your mind that you can put a piece of meat

[27:31] in the freezer for like six months?

[27:33] Yeah, like it's like time travel, dude.

[27:36] It just slows everything down.

[27:37] Yeah, it's like dude,

[27:39] there was a point time,

[27:40] most of history.

[27:41] Well, like, you're not even getting close to refrigeration.

[27:45] It's like every, every food just goes bad

[27:48] like three to seven days.

[27:50] Everything.

[27:51] So it's like all has to be local.

[27:52] There's no logistics around transporting food anywhere

[27:54] because all just fucking goes bad.

[27:56] And because of that technology,

[27:58] we can have grocery stores.

[27:59] That haunting would be so illiteric in that era.

[28:04] That'd be such a thrill.

[28:05] And you've got to bring it back to the village

[28:06] and everyone's hyped.

[28:08] Oh, dude, that's gotta be nuts.

[28:09] It's like winning fucking the Super Bowl.

[28:11] Yeah, everyone's fucking carrying this.

[28:14] Probably haven't eaten for a while.

[28:15] Yeah, yeah,

[28:16] it's still, I guess agriculture came around though.

[28:19] And then once that happened,

[28:20] you know, but again, people were like

[28:22] growing their own crops to eat.

[28:24] It wasn't like being,

[28:26] to my knowledge, really like distributed.

[28:29] It was mostly like the person running your land,

[28:32] usually in the source.

[28:33] And like middle ages, like you have a fiefdom

[28:36] where you have like a-

[28:36] The serifants?

[28:37] Yeah, well, you have like a Lord

[28:38] ruling over your land

[28:39] and you're a farmer on their land.

[28:41] And like you owe them half of your crop every month

[28:43] because they're the Lord of the land.

[28:45] And then you get the other half to sell and feed yourself.

[28:47] Owning land is always just the path to riches.

[28:51] It's just always been that way.

[28:54] Well, it's gotta-

[28:55] Yeah, I mean,

[28:57] it's gotta take land.

[28:58] Yeah, I mean, yes, yes, taking land, yes.

[29:01] I mean, at its core, like,

[29:04] not to make it political,

[29:05] the libertarian view,

[29:06] at the- it's very core all libertarians

[29:09] because there's things that they disagree on.

[29:11] The core is property rights.

[29:13] It's the most important.

[29:14] Is that whatever you own,

[29:17] the power of the government has to be used to stop people

[29:20] from taking that from you.

[29:21] And that's-

[29:22] That's at its core.

[29:23] Which is, yeah, then you get into the other things, like,

[29:26] should the government have police force?

[29:28] And I wish, yes, I think.

[29:30] But there's-

[29:30] Then everyone else starts to disagree on a bunch of little things.

[29:34] But it all comes down to like what you own people-

[29:36] You've got to write to land.

[29:38] This is the most American thing.

[29:39] Yeah, it's protected.

[29:40] Hell yeah.

[29:41] Which is big.

[29:42] So yeah, to your- to answer your question, land is the key.

[29:45] I mean, that example you just gave just makes me think of the modern day version.

[29:49] It's just buying an apartment complex or like a condo and just renting it out.

[29:55] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[29:56] And you can- you know,

[29:57] you can make the armions way better and then someone-

[30:00] Because there you don't-

[30:01] I guess you are paying them rent.

[30:03] But it's mostly by like choice.

[30:05] Whereas opposed to in the Lord farmer situation,

[30:08] it's like some Lord just came by.

[30:10] And it was like, yo, you owe me this now.

[30:12] Yeah, yeah.

[30:12] And you're like, well,

[30:13] it's either that or he kills me or I die.

[30:15] So gotta do that.

[30:17] So how do they get that?

[30:18] So is it just weapons?

[30:20] Was weapons the differentiator of how you got-

[30:23] Weapons and Armies.

[30:24] So numbers.

[30:25] So like, you know, royalty would typically have an army and then it would break off into wards

[30:30] and look, we're protected by the monarchy wherever it may be.

[30:34] And so it's just like this trickled on effect.

[30:35] Like, you don't fuck with anyone connected to royalty.

[30:38] And then also, the farmers don't have great weapons to your point.

[30:41] And they don't have anywhere near enough people to fight back.

[30:44] Wapets and numbers.

[30:46] Yeah.

[30:46] So what it's all about?

[30:48] Yeah, then technology changed all that to a degree.

[30:50] Like, then people started guns.

[30:52] And then it was like, well, people can kind of fight back.

[30:56] But then technology increases.

[30:57] And mostly it's a numbers game for the most part.

[31:00] Yeah.

[31:00] Because like, you would never-

[31:02] Yeah, I don't know.

[31:03] The American military, the people tried to fight back,

[31:05] I don't know if it would last very long.

[31:06] If it was a true war,

[31:09] the American people would probably just stop down.

[31:10] Very quick.

[31:12] Yeah.

[31:13] Yeah, I imagine.

[31:14] We've covered that before.

[31:16] Yeah.

[31:16] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[31:17] Okay.

[31:20] Spots.

[31:20] Oh, wait.

[31:21] Mating in animals is a mix of aggression and mating.

[31:26] I think this is talking about the animals.

[31:28] Like, when they look at the brain,

[31:29] it's like what lights up.

[31:31] And like, the centers for aggression are lit up throughout.

[31:34] Like, it's not true of humans, too.

[31:37] Yeah, I think the reason I put it down is that like,

[31:40] we associate sex with love.

[31:42] And it's like,

[31:44] on a physical level, at least what we understand about the brain,

[31:47] which, you know, there's still a lot to understand,

[31:49] is that like,

[31:51] aggression is happening during this thing where like,

[31:53] it's making love.

[31:55] Yeah.

[31:55] It's a weird,

[31:56] I know you're wrong.

[31:57] You should probably be having sex with someone you love.

[31:59] Yeah.

[32:00] It's like, the act is way more synonymous with aggression

[32:03] than it is like,

[32:04] oh, it's loving.

[32:06] Which, you know, you have loving sex.

[32:08] Yeah, I heard somewhere that like,

[32:10] in males specifically, like the part of the brain that lights up

[32:14] when you like want to have sex with someone,

[32:17] it's like the aggression part, which is brutal.

[32:20] Yeah.

[32:21] It is a weird one.

[32:24] It's like,

[32:25] the way it was described, like,

[32:27] when a guy sees like a woman in like a tight curvy dress,

[32:31] it's like, I want to consume that.

[32:34] Like, like, like a meal or something else.

[32:36] And like, women don't have that.

[32:38] Yeah.

[32:39] And it's like, what makes us human is our ability to mitigate that.

[32:43] Because in the wild, they don't.

[32:45] Yes.

[32:45] Just, they just do it.

[32:46] It's like, the wild is only rape.

[32:49] It's literally like,

[32:50] that's all animals are like,

[32:52] I don't think there's no consent.

[32:53] It is fucked up.

[32:54] Yeah.

[32:54] I don't think there's any,

[32:55] I don't think there's two animals going.

[32:57] Yes, we can do this.

[32:58] It is crazy watching a nature documentary.

[33:00] It's like, oh, yeah, they're just,

[33:02] that's rape right there.

[33:02] They're all fucking.

[33:03] There's in time, I mean, the whole,

[33:05] they're,

[33:06] here's the weird thing for me.

[33:08] Most animals, I shouldn't say most.

[33:10] I feel like the top ones that they cover in these documentaries

[33:12] always have periods of them being in heat.

[33:15] We're like, an animal, it's like a mating season.

[33:18] Do humans not have that?

[33:21] Yeah, why are there seasons for animals?

[33:24] I don't know.

[33:25] And like, no one has ever told like,

[33:26] oh, yeah, it's summer.

[33:27] It's time where like humans go to fuck.

[33:29] Have we just been crazy?

[33:31] I mean, summer kind of is.

[33:33] It's like, uh,

[33:34] what events where you are?

[33:36] Yeah.

[33:36] Like if you're in California,

[33:38] you're just fucking all the time.

[33:42] True. Yeah, I guess that's a Midwest thing.

[33:44] I feel like there's like,

[33:45] coughing season, like going in a fall.

[33:48] Everyone says you gotta get a relationship for fall.

[33:50] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[33:50] Anyone be single for summer.

[33:52] We're presumably just fucking brains out.

[33:54] Well, how about this?

[33:56] I think

[33:58] humans have evolved out of.

[34:00] There was maybe a one point in time.

[34:03] Like, you could see that.

[34:04] Yeah, because I think like the animal,

[34:05] we've evolved out of so many things.

[34:07] Yeah, I think that animals have those patterns

[34:09] because they literally can't,

[34:12] they should.

[34:13] It's survival.

[34:14] Yeah, if they try to make another season,

[34:16] then it's going to be like way more precarious

[34:18] for their livelihood.

[34:20] As opposed to us,

[34:21] it really doesn't matter in terms of when we want to flock.

[34:24] Unless you're living in like some third world country.

[34:26] To have stream weather.

[34:26] Pure dominance.

[34:28] Yeah, over the food chain.

[34:29] We can fuck whenever we want.

[34:30] Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

[34:32] Hell yeah.

[34:33] Got one cool.

[34:38] Yeah, so the aggression thing is still it's just funny that like

[34:41] as far as we have evolved,

[34:43] the physicality of most things is still very linked to like

[34:47] all we're still animals.

[34:49] Right, right.

[34:50] And it's again,

[34:50] what separates us is like us trying to not be animals.

[34:54] Us being like,

[34:55] we're better than this.

[34:56] We should not rape.

[34:57] We should not like take advantage.

[34:58] We should we should be good people.

[35:00] Just like us being like bad animal.

[35:03] The instinct is there.

[35:04] So we have two parts.

[35:08] Gotcha.

[35:09] Two parts to you.

[35:10] Yeah, it's which

[35:14] that could be the argument for human consciousness alone.

[35:16] Of you understanding that there's a part of you

[35:20] that you shouldn't indulge in too much.

[35:23] That you should you should not be a racist.

[35:25] You should not be out

[35:27] in printing every woman you see.

[35:29] Like, you know, there's certain things where like I can't give

[35:31] into these animals as opposed to every other animal.

[35:34] Just they just do.

[35:35] They don't even consider resisting.

[35:37] Yeah, we're having the ability to resist.

[35:40] It's yeah, and it's weird because there's like

[35:44] you'll find examples of animals like engaging with emotions to some degree

[35:48] in terms of like say a dog wants a treat, right?

[35:52] And you like you train it to like hold out for the treat.

[35:55] So you like always instill some level of thinking in it.

[35:59] But then you can make the argument that oh, you get more treats later.

[36:02] Or like your affection is the treat to it.

[36:04] So it knows that like this game, this strength is relationship.

[36:07] But you could also make that argument for humans too.

[36:09] I just think that humans that probably have like the top level of consciousness right now.

[36:14] And it gets diluted the more you go into nature.

[36:17] There's like bigger animals.

[36:18] Yeah, I think that's what we check out.

[36:20] And then like bugs are not as conscious, which is, you know,

[36:25] they're just kind of like working as one.

[36:27] But they were yeah, it's just weird.

[36:31] And it's like there's all these things trying to,

[36:34] and it's like the ones closer to us like dogs and cats seem to like maybe

[36:39] mirror some of our stuff in terms of cognitive like,

[36:42] I don't know like the treatment I think about, but also just.

[36:46] So they can step out of the instinct for a second and just exist and enjoy life.

[36:52] Well, maybe it not enjoy it.

[36:55] Because it's just because if we said, okay, every animal gives it an entire instinct,

[36:59] dog would never do a situation where it doesn't eat the treat.

[37:01] It would always go, food is here.

[37:03] I need to eat this food.

[37:04] Well, maybe because I feel like the way you train a dog is you would inflict some sort of

[37:10] punishment on if it if it does the wrong thing.

[37:13] Like if it eats it too early, you say no or like sure, get a little zap or whatever.

[37:19] Yeah.

[37:20] So maybe that's still just instinct.

[37:22] Like it knows that there's a punishment.

[37:24] There's pain associated with it.

[37:25] Yeah.

[37:26] Interesting.

[37:27] But then can you argue that that's like not instinct that's condition behavior?

[37:31] Like instinct, yeah, maybe.

[37:32] Yeah, right, right.

[37:33] It is called shit.

[37:34] You know, like that's like animals are always doing that regardless of animal.

[37:37] They're doing those things most of their lives.

[37:41] And then the dogs and the cats can almost like sometimes step out of those to like

[37:46] engage with.

[37:47] That's an interesting question.

[37:48] Condition behavior.

[37:49] Is that is that just instinct twisted in a different direction?

[37:54] Or is that like a step outside of instinct?

[37:57] I think it's like a step outside.

[37:59] Because like just like us, we have like we have the eat the shit the fuck.

[38:04] Like we still have those.

[38:06] But then we have a learning stacked on top of it.

[38:09] We go through experience.

[38:11] These things make for better outcome or worse.

[38:14] The pain on who you are, right?

[38:15] And a dog has those instincts and is learned maybe this makes my owner happy when I do this.

[38:21] So it's like almost like stacked on top of the instincts.

[38:24] I don't know if it blends into them.

[38:26] Is it almost you could argue the treat one is like the opposite of a I need to eat instinct.

[38:32] Yeah, it's fascinating.

[38:34] It's weird, man.

[38:37] It's definitely something that I've thought about.

[38:39] I've been like, what the fuck?

[38:41] Yeah, could I be a follow-up?

[38:44] Instinct versus just behavior?

[38:48] What part of behavior is an instinct?

[38:50] Well, here I got a follow-up for you.

[38:51] Which actually probably supports what you just said more than what I,

[38:55] as the counterpoint I said to it, of our instinct can just be having the same thing.

[38:59] Because if you go, do we get genetics say instincts are just generation after generation of

[39:06] learning behavior?

[39:07] It's just what those things have learned over hundreds of thousands and millions of years.

[39:11] What you do as instincts today is just an amalgamation of all the learned behavior of generations.

[39:17] So when I think condition learned behavior, I guess I should...

[39:21] It's like genetically learned behavior.

[39:23] It is.

[39:24] What's it?

[39:25] It's conditioned though.

[39:26] It is conditioned through evolution and genetics.

[39:30] Yeah, just gets a lot.

[39:30] But then there's like additional behavior of like your own consciousness and existence.

[39:35] How you've trained your own brain.

[39:38] And that, what you have, if you have children, some of that will make its way into them.

[39:45] Really?

[39:46] Some. That's why you'll see parents...

[39:49] Outside of your own teaching of them, like just innate things.

[39:52] There's some stuff because they've done these studies with twins

[39:54] where they are separated from birth.

[39:58] Mimicking a lot of the same things, regardless of conditioning.

[40:02] And they didn't grow up with their parents?

[40:04] With different sets of parents because they were adopted.

[40:06] So they grew up doing extremely similar things.

[40:09] Some of the weirdest cases, marrying women that look very similar that have the same name.

[40:14] I believe that, fully.

[40:16] That's the thing.

[40:17] Like, they're...

[40:17] They're like, well, you're attracted to.

[40:18] I feel like that's just wired.

[40:19] Yeah.

[40:20] And like, those things do come from genetics.

[40:23] Like, there's something something something wrong.

[40:24] I would argue that we have a lot that we can manipulate with the hardwiring we have.

[40:29] So I agree that that's genetics.

[40:31] But like, is it possible to say that...

[40:34] Can things you have learned and trained yourself?

[40:38] So you develop this behavior.

[40:40] Yeah.

[40:40] Then you have kids and you never see them.

[40:43] Well, the things you've learned in your life can zapy transfer genetically to your kids.

[40:48] That's what I thought would not be possible.

[40:51] But...

[40:51] Yeah, I should say I don't know these exercises.

[40:55] But I would think that there would be some things that would transfer.

[40:59] It could be.

[40:59] Because I think it's just a big, sliding scale of...

[41:03] They're going to have more genetic material of the past like,

[41:06] 100 years of...

[41:07] Like, your dad, your grandfather,

[41:09] who have...

[41:10] And grandmother, what not.

[41:12] But then like, your actions will matter.

[41:14] So it's like, it's all in there.

[41:16] Like, actually...

[41:17] It's matter.

[41:18] Yeah, dude.

[41:20] It's all in the genetics of the next offspring.

[41:22] It's just like, they'll just have a smaller piece of you than the grand scale piece.

[41:27] So it's like, your learned behavior could be in there...

[41:30] Well, it will be in their genetics,

[41:32] just as a matter of how much of that will come out.

[41:34] How many of us would agree that like, all the big,

[41:36] two next hatches in the other generation,

[41:38] but still in there, so there's still a chance that like,

[41:41] something you learn in your life has been given to your kid.

[41:44] Wow.

[41:45] I'm not a geneticist.

[41:46] So it could be entirely wrong out of this.

[41:48] I do know that, you know,

[41:51] the centuries of genetics and stuff like that doesn't matter.

[41:53] And that's what we're doing.

[41:54] Sure.

[41:54] That's what we're doing.

[41:55] The learned behavior of past generations does affect our genetics that we have today.

[41:58] So I just, it would be cool if you could just like,

[42:00] learn something and then it just being your kid.

[42:03] His past is on, dude.

[42:05] Yeah, dude.

[42:05] Just like guarantee them a successful life by doing some good habit.

[42:10] So yeah.

[42:11] Yeah.

[42:12] Cool stuff.

[42:12] On to the next one.

[42:14] I'm going to have 42 to see that.

[42:16] Like 70.

[42:17] Very 70.

[42:18] It's okay.

[42:19] Great game.

[42:19] I'm kind of locked in here.

[42:22] I forgot the TV was even on.

[42:24] It's talking about all this mating and aggression.

[42:28] Let's see.

[42:29] Kettamine first use these, these NA beers.

[42:31] I'm like, I'm drinking them and I'm like forgetting that I'm not drunk.

[42:34] I know.

[42:35] It's awesome.

[42:36] It kind of makes me feel like I'm just getting drunk.

[42:38] It truly, dude, I get the same excitement when I go to drugs.

[42:42] Like weird.

[42:42] I know it's so nice.

[42:43] It's weird as hell.

[42:44] It also hear me out.

[42:47] So I just started like you.

[42:49] I don't think I've maybe tried no duels once,

[42:52] but I have never like drank a fucking beer sober

[42:56] as like this is the intentional replacement.

[42:59] And I was drinking some of my apartment

[43:00] the Saturday nights, the last night.

[43:04] And I had that one thing where I'm like,

[43:07] oh, I can taste that there's no alcohol on this.

[43:10] But at the same time, I have the same social excitement

[43:14] around me.

[43:15] Kettamine, I'm like ready to get after it right now.

[43:17] And it's like, you, you, again, it's a sample of one currently.

[43:22] But it's like, how much of me boozing has just been

[43:26] thinking that this thing and obviously alcohol has an effect.

[43:30] But how much of it, how much of it is actually because of the alcohol not

[43:34] just me thinking this brings a good time and associating with it.

[43:37] We know how powerful placebo effect is.

[43:40] Yeah.

[43:40] It's just a trigger like, oh yeah, let's we're going to have good time now.

[43:43] Yeah, we're going to go.

[43:44] So yeah, I'm like, I'm out in this place right now where I hope

[43:50] because I'm going to, I'm going to test this stuff out in like actual partacies.

[43:53] I'm going to start going out, get in any of your, you can see how it goes.

[43:55] And seeing if it was just like, I was, no, I didn't need the alcohol the entire time.

[44:04] I just need something.

[44:05] That'd be an awesome realization.

[44:08] Yeah, dude, because I'm at that point.

[44:09] Especially if you use it, I feel like you don't as much.

[44:12] Maybe do, but like for people who use alcohol as a crutch in social situations,

[44:16] to have that realization of, yeah, I didn't need it.

[44:20] Dude, it would be so big for me.

[44:21] That's, I use it so heavily.

[44:23] The first hour of, it's like the, it's like the lion realizing he had courage the whole time.

[44:29] Yes, dude.

[44:31] It's like influencer level motivation.

[44:34] Yeah.

[44:35] God damn.

[44:39] Because most social situations, obviously if it's someone like,

[44:43] we're friends now, so there's not like this, the first hour of me being around people,

[44:48] I'm extremely anxious.

[44:50] Yeah, like I don't think I ever show it to anyone.

[44:52] I'm like, I'm like, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.

[44:55] I just want it to be over.

[44:56] I want to go home and if I make it through that hour, it's usually good.

[44:59] But it's, it's almost always with alcohol.

[45:02] And it's, I so I've attributed, oh, once I'm an hour and I've had three, four beers.

[45:07] I don't know how much of it is if that's the truth of the matter.

[45:10] It might just be, I think I need this.

[45:13] So the first hour is really tough and I've convinced myself that it's just easy after an hour.

[45:19] Because I should say this too.

[45:21] I have hung out with people sober and there is a similar effect of it just, it takes longer.

[45:27] We're like, it'll be 12 hours.

[45:28] So I'd be, before I'm like, okay, we're just chilling.

[45:30] Just relax.

[45:31] Yeah, I've absolutely felt that you just need to loosen up.

[45:35] Yeah.

[45:36] Like the start of a social event.

[45:38] It depends on who's in the room, but there's a lot of people I like kind of know.

[45:42] It's like, yeah, I'm just going to be on edge until

[45:46] the booze is paused.

[45:48] And it's like, if I could do this within an A's and just unlearn this stuff,

[45:53] I'm at this point in the end where like, I can't keep.

[45:56] Whenever I drink, I get hammered and it just, it just, it just, it's like, it ruins me.

[46:00] Yeah.

[46:00] And it's like, I don't know how many times I've gone like looking at like alcohol or sober,

[46:05] curious or alcohol-free life.

[46:07] People, and they're like, people that don't have a problem.

[46:10] But it's like, when I drink, it's just like, it just,

[46:13] and the outcome is always way worse than I thought.

[46:16] Yeah.

[46:16] And again, worse is relative because it's like, I've never done anything terrible or

[46:20] had a night where I was like, oh, now I gotta pick up the pieces and move on.

[46:24] But it's just like, mostly feeling like shit and not being the person I want to be.

[46:27] It just makes me sadder, more anxious.

[46:30] Yeah, it's just bad for your body and your health.

[46:32] Yeah, it's just bad.

[46:34] So if I could use NABs and just kind of fill that gap and continue to go socialize,

[46:38] that'd be great.

[46:40] Yeah.

[46:41] It's great for something like this too.

[46:42] Yeah, I do.

[46:43] Just chilling.

[46:44] It's a Sunday.

[46:44] We got work tomorrow.

[46:45] I like the idea of saving booze for like,

[46:49] many less events and more important events.

[46:52] Yes.

[46:53] Versus like, casual hangout.

[46:54] You can drink.

[46:55] You can drink so much.

[46:57] You can drink anytime.

[46:58] Yeah.

[46:59] So just something like this.

[47:00] It's like, well, so few NAs.

[47:03] Yeah.

[47:03] It's so weird because if we weren't drinking this,

[47:07] I like it way better when we are drinking.

[47:10] It feels more like we're having a time.

[47:14] You're just associated with good time.

[47:16] Yeah.

[47:16] So it's like just having something.

[47:18] Even if it's even better than like,

[47:20] because if I was to bring over like just literally water silences,

[47:24] part of my brain we go, this isn't fucking booze.

[47:27] Even though this isn't booze.

[47:29] It looks like a beer though.

[47:30] Yeah, it looks like a beer in a taste beery.

[47:32] So it's like, my brain has been convinced enough that we're drinking.

[47:35] And I'm like, this is tight.

[47:37] I like this.

[47:38] I do.

[47:39] Anyway, that was quite the tension on my mind.

[47:42] Ketamine first used to block traumatic memories.

[47:46] Oh yeah.

[47:47] Gotta remember this story.

[47:48] But apparently,

[47:49] It's ketamine's used for therapy, isn't it?

[47:52] Yeah, which that,

[47:53] this is okay.

[47:54] I'm so glad you bring that up.

[47:55] Because I've been trying,

[47:56] I've done ketamine and it is,

[47:58] but it's one of the most wilder,

[48:01] out of all the drugs I've done,

[48:02] probably one of the most wild.

[48:03] Really?

[48:03] Because the disassociative trip,

[48:06] which is like,

[48:07] so like acid or mushrooms,

[48:11] they're not disassociative in,

[48:14] I don't know why I put this.

[48:15] You're still all there,

[48:16] but stuff's pretty weird.

[48:17] Granted, it's dose dependent.

[48:19] So if you ate like 10 dose of acid,

[48:21] you could not know where you are.

[48:23] But for the most part,

[48:24] you're like,

[48:24] you have a trip,

[48:25] you're like,

[48:26] you're just in a different stuff.

[48:27] Stuff looks cool.

[48:28] Yeah, stuff looks cool.

[48:29] Your head's in different space.

[48:30] It's interesting.

[48:31] Ketamine's like,

[48:32] you do a line of it,

[48:34] and you could literally feel like you're in a field somewhere,

[48:38] and you're sitting on a couch.

[48:40] And so,

[48:41] you know, it's been...

[48:42] That's crazy.

[48:42] It's dude, it's so weird.

[48:44] We are.

[48:45] Huh?

[48:45] It's like a VR.

[48:46] Yes.

[48:47] There was one time in particular,

[48:48] where like,

[48:49] me and my buddies were doing it in his,

[48:51] my buddy and I and his girlfriend at the time,

[48:55] doing it in his basement,

[48:56] and maybe I brought this up before,

[48:57] and we're just railing lines,

[48:59] okay?

[48:59] And like, we got to the point where like,

[49:00] we're like,

[49:01] one of our buddies sounds a lot of it,

[49:03] so we have like,

[49:04] I think like, I don't know.

[49:06] We're doing grand lines sometime,

[49:07] which are, it literally just these fat boys.

[49:10] And like,

[49:10] just feel like a gram of any drug.

[49:12] It's just so much.

[49:13] Dude, and you've heard of what a K-hole is, right?

[49:15] We're like,

[49:15] you've done so much you can't move.

[49:17] It's like, you're like,

[49:18] aware,

[49:19] well, kind of aware,

[49:19] because you're fucking gone,

[49:21] but you're just like sitting there,

[49:22] just stuck.

[49:23] You're in the sunken place.

[49:24] Yeah.

[49:25] Yeah.

[49:25] And so,

[49:26] we were,

[49:26] we had grazing to add me on the TV,

[49:29] and like,

[49:29] I remember just doing a fat line.

[49:31] And then for the next hour and a half,

[49:33] thinking I was in the hospital,

[49:34] like truly,

[49:35] like being like sitting there,

[49:37] just like thinking surgeons are around me,

[49:39] talking about patients.

[49:39] I'm like,

[49:41] and then after the hour and a half,

[49:43] man,

[49:43] you just snap right back into a basement.

[49:45] I was like,

[49:46] wow,

[49:46] fuck,

[49:47] all this to say,

[49:49] it's been super popularized for terms,

[49:52] for treatment of depression and anxiety.

[49:54] And I'm like,

[49:55] how in God's name is this?

[49:57] Because my experience is not.

[49:58] Like psychedelic mushrooms are used for that as well.

[50:01] That one I could see way more.

[50:03] Way, way, way, way,

[50:04] well, what's the difference,

[50:05] if you have this say?

[50:07] Because they're both hallucinogenic, aren't they?

[50:08] Yeah, but once I forgot the name for the acids

[50:11] and the mushrooms are not disassociated.

[50:13] We're like,

[50:13] if you drink enough robotus,

[50:15] and no people like would roll,

[50:17] that's a disassociated drug.

[50:20] So like,

[50:20] it's like you separate from yourself in a way where

[50:24] it's hard.

[50:25] So here's a good example.

[50:27] On acid mushrooms,

[50:28] there's never a point in time

[50:29] where you physically can't do anything.

[50:32] So ketamine and like,

[50:33] as well as active drugs, right?

[50:35] Well, like it doesn't affect your nervous system that way.

[50:38] As opposed to ketamine,

[50:39] you can hit a point where you can't move.

[50:41] Okay.

[50:42] And same with robotus.

[50:43] And you feel like you're like disconnected from your body.

[50:45] I think that's where the disassociation,

[50:46] you feel like you're truly physically disconnected from your body.

[50:49] Okay.

[50:50] Where mushroom LSD will never do that.

[50:52] So,

[50:53] it's been getting popularized.

[50:55] I know that

[50:55] when they do these treatments,

[50:57] it's like you're typically

[50:59] in a clinic with a therapist and a doctor

[51:03] who's like guiding you.

[51:05] So it's like a therapy session.

[51:06] But not too long ago,

[51:08] I was, I don't know how I found out about online.

[51:11] I forgot the name of the company.

[51:12] You can just get ketamine shipped to you.

[51:14] Like,

[51:14] you just go on this website.

[51:16] It's called Mind Bloom.

[51:17] That's what it was.

[51:17] Nice.

[51:18] You go on the website,

[51:18] that you have a doctor interview,

[51:20] or just write down symptoms.

[51:21] And then,

[51:22] did you ketamine therapy in the form of,

[51:24] it's half gram pills?

[51:27] It's just,

[51:27] there's like,

[51:27] anyone can do this?

[51:29] Well, I shouldn't say anyone,

[51:30] because I haven't tried to apply,

[51:31] but I assume it's,

[51:32] it's,

[51:33] the bar's got to be pretty low.

[51:34] Sure.

[51:35] And it's at home.

[51:36] You just get a bunch of ketamine.

[51:39] And I don't know.

[51:41] Anyway,

[51:42] went down that,

[51:43] I found that like,

[51:43] Jesus Christ,

[51:44] that's fucking crazy.

[51:45] And then I learned like,

[51:46] why was ketamine made?

[51:47] Because I've heard it's a tranquilizer.

[51:48] People heard it's a horse tranquilizer,

[51:50] which I never,

[51:51] I was like,

[51:51] what?

[51:52] Maybe it's certain doses of tranquilizer.

[51:54] I don't fucking know.

[51:55] Apparently,

[51:56] in the beginning of ketamine,

[51:58] it was used to

[51:59] suppress traumatic memories from like,

[52:02] when someone,

[52:03] someone has experienced something terrible,

[52:05] they will immediately give someone ketamine.

[52:07] And the disassociated,

[52:09] disassociated,

[52:09] you enough

[52:10] to where you don't store the memory.

[52:12] So you don't get the trauma.

[52:13] Oh, like right after?

[52:14] Yeah.

[52:15] So like within hours of experience,

[52:16] like your parents getting mutilated by cars,

[52:19] they're like,

[52:19] they just pop up filled with K.

[52:20] K.

[52:21] And then your,

[52:22] your body just goes,

[52:23] nope,

[52:23] not storing that memory.

[52:24] And then it comes back.

[52:25] Apparently, it's super great for that.

[52:27] Wow.

[52:28] Which I never would have known.

[52:29] That's so nuts.

[52:31] I know drugs can do that.

[52:33] I'd,

[52:34] I have a,

[52:35] I'm my cultist,

[52:36] but I have a friend whose dad is like

[52:39] in the ketamine therapy.

[52:41] How do you know?

[52:41] But I don't,

[52:42] I don't think he like recently experienced something.

[52:44] I think he's just somehow trying to like help him.

[52:47] Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[52:49] Which again,

[52:50] I,

[52:51] I don't know if you are using it.

[52:53] I don't know.

[52:53] There's been enough efficacy for the government to approve it.

[52:56] So that is illegal?

[52:58] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[52:58] It's, yeah, that,

[53:00] like this website I'm talking about is a fully legal website.

[53:02] How do you apply?

[53:03] What's the process?

[53:05] You just literally get,

[53:06] it's a prescription that a doctor can see.

[53:08] But what do you say?

[53:09] Do you have to say something like,

[53:10] well, it's usually treating depression,

[53:13] anxiety,

[53:14] stuff like that.

[53:15] It's supposed to be again,

[53:16] combined with therapy to help you work through like trauma

[53:18] or depression.

[53:19] And I,

[53:20] I think that theory is that,

[53:21] but you can just cut out the therapist part entirely.

[53:24] Just form the bed.

[53:25] I think with that site you can,

[53:26] or it's, it's at home.

[53:28] So you could just like put them on a thing as you're like,

[53:30] K-Holing.

[53:31] Yeah.

[53:33] Again,

[53:34] like the idea of a therapist just tuning into like a Zoom call.

[53:37] But you just let her just just pass down all the pills they gave you.

[53:43] But yeah, it's an interesting one.

[53:46] It's one that I, again,

[53:47] I have a look down and seem like,

[53:48] oh, people are getting therapy with this.

[53:50] And I'm like,

[53:51] again, my experience was doing basements at high doses.

[53:54] But I'm like,

[53:55] how is anyone getting any benefit from this?

[53:58] It's a wildrope.

[54:00] That's cool.

[54:00] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[54:01] It's tight.

[54:02] All right, we'll do one more.

[54:04] I don't know if we'll fucking cut it.

[54:07] Buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh.

[54:11] All right.

[54:12] Maybe this may,

[54:13] might be a pet peeve.

[54:15] But more of a thing that I,

[54:16] I, I, I hate that it's part of me,

[54:18] but it's a true thing.

[54:20] But if somebody is really excited about a bad movie,

[54:25] they really like a, like terrible movie.

[54:28] And not in a, like a funny way.

[54:31] Not like, it's so bad it's going to be funny.

[54:33] It's like, they think it's really good.

[54:35] This is awesome.

[54:36] And yeah, and I'm like,

[54:37] yeah, man, it's hard for me to like,

[54:42] not judge.

[54:44] Not be like, oh, I don't really trust this person's judgment.

[54:46] Yeah.

[54:47] Because it's like, if they think that,

[54:48] what else do they think?

[54:50] Oh, I'm with you.

[54:52] Okay.

[54:52] Okay.

[54:53] If someone recommended it follows to me,

[54:55] I'd be like,

[54:57] I'm like,

[54:57] I'm like,

[54:58] fuck, cut it, cut it.

[55:02] That's fair.

[55:03] No, I totally, I feel bad.

[55:05] Yeah, I'm trying to think of an example of once

[55:06] that's happened to me though.

[55:07] Like, like, something's been suggested that,

[55:12] like, if I joked about it,

[55:13] we had a person, they would be like,

[55:15] what are you doing?

[55:16] Like, like that level.

[55:18] Like,

[55:19] and not to go on about myself,

[55:21] but the it follows thing.

[55:23] It's funny to me that you guys found it funny.

[55:26] Well, I'm like, I was like,

[55:27] I think this is a great horror movie.

[55:28] And the guys are like,

[55:29] there's so many plot holes.

[55:30] I was like, all right.

[55:31] And you guys were right on quite a few of them.

[55:34] But I'm talking about someone who,

[55:35] if you said those things to me,

[55:36] and I was like,

[55:38] dude, what are you talking about?

[55:40] And I got, right, right.

[55:41] I got, I got,

[55:41] aggravated that you were like,

[55:42] this is not a great movie.

[55:44] But try to think of a bad movie that's,

[55:46] it could even recommend to me that I'd be like,

[55:48] God, it's fucking, that's dope.

[55:50] I feel kind of bad saying this,

[55:51] but like if you really love Marvel movies,

[55:54] oh, kind of like,

[55:56] so many people love Marvel movies though.

[55:58] And a lot of people I like like them.

[56:01] but like, are those people,

[56:03] I don't judge them.

[56:04] I just be like, I don't love your movie taste.

[56:07] For sure.

[56:07] I think those people are tricked, though, to some degree.

[56:10] I think,

[56:11] they like,

[56:13] I don't think they think they're great movies.

[56:15] They just like,

[56:16] it is kind of fun to get hyped around them.

[56:19] Yeah, well,

[56:20] the people who are a diehard Marvel people,

[56:21] I feel like they're either,

[56:24] they're like some of,

[56:26] they like the big theatricalness of it.

[56:29] No,

[56:29] or there's someone who has some like comic loving,

[56:32] like they like those characters from their childhood.

[56:34] Sure.

[56:34] And it's not necessarily them going,

[56:36] this is a great movie.

[56:37] It's like just a bunch of emotion,

[56:39] nothing going.

[56:40] This is, this is fun.

[56:41] Yeah.

[56:41] Which, because I,

[56:44] don't get wrong,

[56:45] there's probably definitely people who are like,

[56:46] this is one of the best movies I've ever seen in my entire life.

[56:49] But those people again,

[56:50] I think fall in that bucket of,

[56:52] oh god,

[56:52] really?

[56:54] And I feel gross even saying that.

[56:56] But it's like, if you're like,

[56:57] yeah,

[56:59] it's the most famous franchise ever.

[57:03] Most people.

[57:04] True.

[57:05] Yeah, that's true.

[57:07] Yeah, it's a tough one.

[57:09] I, again, I'm trying to,

[57:10] what's the other?

[57:11] I mean, I have certain friends who I'm like,

[57:13] if they recommend a movie to me,

[57:14] I'm like,

[57:16] love you.

[57:17] But like, I,

[57:18] I don't trust your judgment.

[57:20] Buddy.

[57:21] Do I ever have those,

[57:23] those friends,

[57:24] but a lot more music friends where they go,

[57:27] okay,

[57:27] you should go listen to this man.

[57:28] And I'm probably a snob to some degree,

[57:31] because I love,

[57:32] it's good to be a snob on something.

[57:34] Some things, man,

[57:35] where I just know if a person's recommending a song,

[57:37] I'm going to be like,

[57:38] there's more than not,

[57:40] it's going to be something I would never listen to.

[57:42] I'm like,

[57:42] man,

[57:44] just,

[57:46] which it's,

[57:47] well,

[57:49] always go for it.

[57:50] Old roommate.

[57:52] He's,

[57:53] we have a lot more similar music taste than not,

[57:56] but there is a,

[57:59] there's some stuff,

[58:00] like I told you I went to that music festival,

[58:02] festival with him a while ago,

[58:03] I thought it was the worst thing in the entire world.

[58:04] Yeah,

[58:05] we're like,

[58:06] he's like,

[58:07] oh, dude, you're going to like this.

[58:08] And then I'm amazed that he thought I was going to like it.

[58:11] Yeah.

[58:12] Where I'm like,

[58:13] and then also on top of him,

[58:15] like,

[58:15] why would anyone ever listen to this?

[58:17] Do you,

[58:17] do you get that often,

[58:18] because I feel like I get that often with comedy,

[58:22] where people will,

[58:23] people will recommend,

[58:24] though,

[58:24] they'll be like,

[58:24] this is right down your alley,

[58:26] and it's not even close.

[58:28] Uh,

[58:32] no,

[58:33] not, not commonly.

[58:35] No, I think my,

[58:36] my, the people who are recommending stuff that aren't,

[58:39] that aren't like,

[58:40] the claims, as I should say,

[58:41] are pretty intuned.

[58:43] I don't like,

[58:44] Axe and Mae,

[58:44] frontroom homie stuff in that,

[58:46] that they send pretty solid stuff.

[58:48] Okay.

[58:49] But they also fall into the trap sometimes,

[58:51] like sending,

[58:51] this happened recently where,

[58:53] like,

[58:54] with Axe and Mae,

[58:55] every Friday,

[58:56] we'll share two songs with each other,

[58:58] just so we keep like,

[58:59] we're finding new music,

[59:00] and it's nice to go back and forth.

[59:02] And he'll just like,

[59:03] share fucking 20 songs.

[59:06] I'm like,

[59:06] dude, the rule is two songs.

[59:08] I'm not going to listen to four albums, man.

[59:09] You're just putting,

[59:11] giving someone homework.

[59:12] That exact,

[59:13] I've been trying to make this point like,

[59:14] dude, the whole album is good.

[59:15] I'm like, dude,

[59:16] pick your top two.

[59:18] And literally,

[59:19] oh, was it three weeks ago,

[59:20] we have, we have a mutual friend who is going to Germany.

[59:22] And he's like,

[59:22] I'm about to board a plane,

[59:24] send me a list of like,

[59:25] your top two enemies.

[59:26] Dom sends like,

[59:27] literally 20 enemies.

[59:28] And,

[59:28] and then my friend responds,

[59:30] it's like, they can't all be that good.

[59:33] that's what my friend said.

[59:35] And it's like,

[59:36] they're all the top ones I watch.

[59:41] They're all number one.

[59:42] And here's the, here's,

[59:43] here's a good lesson on relative experience,

[59:46] because block,

[59:47] hideous set is,

[59:48] I just said,

[59:48] I did all that extra maple shit outside it.

[59:50] I know his,

[59:51] the, the sound profile of his name so well,

[59:54] I can just cut it out without even.

[59:56] Oh,

[59:57] he's waiting up.

[59:58] That's him.

[59:59] That's a **** way right there.

[60:00] But he watches so much anime,

[60:04] so when,

[60:04] when someone says top anime,

[60:06] top 10 is low or top 20s low.

[60:09] So in his head,

[60:10] that is, that is top.

[60:12] But he probably fought,

[60:14] I'm like, what do I leave out of this list?

[60:16] Literally dude, dude,

[60:18] we were like,

[60:19] half of the ones he suggested I had never seen.

[60:21] I was like,

[60:22] it was just hilarious for us to be like,

[60:24] dude, when we say top,

[60:26] it means like a couple or one,

[60:28] not a laundry list of enemies to like see if I like.

[60:32] So did he then narrow it down to two?

[60:34] I don't know.

[60:34] I sent my buddy,

[60:35] I think two or three and then he sent that.

[60:38] No, he didn't know.

[60:39] But not narrowed.

[60:39] He just said these are the top

[60:41] enemies that I've watched.

[60:42] And we're like,

[60:43] take a couple.

[60:44] So anyway,

[60:46] time to end.

[60:48] Yeah, yeah.

[60:49] Anything else before we sign off?

[60:50] Any pet peeves?

[60:51] Yeah, I'm just going to ask you that.

[60:53] You know, I've been pretty,

[60:54] uh, pretty zen lately.

[60:56] I don't think I've been pissed off too much,

[60:58] which is just good.

[61:00] Yeah, that's a good thing, man.

[61:01] I feel like I should be more pissed off.

[61:03] Why?

[61:04] You can't get too complacent.

[61:05] Well, yeah, but being pissed off doesn't get

[61:08] placed in and being angry.

[61:11] Right.

[61:12] I got to start more angry.

[61:13] I just, I feel like if I'm not experiencing

[61:15] peeves, I'm not living life to the fullest.

[61:20] I don't know if I agree.

[61:24] Coming from coming from the opposite place where I feel like

[61:27] because of I've been finding everything wrong with everything

[61:30] that worked more specifically.

[61:31] Sure.

[61:32] And I can definitely tie it more to,

[61:33] oh, I'm stressed out so I'm just doing that.

[61:35] It's like, I've had a problem with every interaction I've had

[61:38] with almost everybody at work for the past three weeks.

[61:40] And like, oh, at a certain, it's a horrible sign.

[61:42] Yes.

[61:43] At a certain point, I'm like, oh, this is just me, dude.

[61:46] Like these people just, good for realizing that.

[61:48] Yeah, I mean, it's, uh, and I'm obviously,

[61:50] when I'm having these moments of like,

[61:52] God, the bean still fucking like, I'm not ever

[61:55] taking it outside.

[61:56] It's always in here.

[61:57] Yeah, right, right, right, right.

[61:58] It would be crazy if I was like suddenly like,

[62:00] oh, everyone's an asshole.

[62:02] Yeah.

[62:02] Just start doing it.

[62:03] But, uh, so I've been in that.

[62:05] I've had 80,000 peeps, I think over the past three weeks.

[62:08] But, yeah, I mean, I can give you one.

[62:13] I mean, sign on that.

[62:13] I'm gonna do it.

[62:14] All right.

[62:14] Uh, uh, this is just a standard one.

[62:18] This is not anything crazy.

[62:20] But, uh, you're, you're weeks away from a deadline.

[62:25] All right.

[62:26] Okay.

[62:26] Now, call it a month away from a deadline.

[62:28] And this deadline involves yourself

[62:33] and one other person that you both have to be part of it, right?

[62:37] There's something he has to do.

[62:39] There's something you have to do.

[62:41] And you commute and in the beginning of the month,

[62:44] you go to this person, you go in a month

[62:47] or this deadline, we're gonna have to do this.

[62:50] I'm gonna go, yep, sounds good.

[62:52] We'll be ready.

[62:53] It'll be fine.

[62:55] And you check in, I don't know,

[62:58] every half week, every three days,

[63:00] going, okay, here's the progress of it made.

[63:03] We're still good for this day.

[63:04] They go, yeah, they say that every time they confirm,

[63:08] we're still good to go.

[63:09] We're still good to go.

[63:10] Oh, they're just placating you.

[63:12] Well, and the thing I'm asking,

[63:14] it's truly a really small lift from the other person.

[63:16] You're doing like 98% of the work.

[63:19] They kind of just have to click a button

[63:20] or like, it's a dashboard thing they have to up,

[63:23] like, on the front end,

[63:25] they just have to make the dashboard reflect the databases.

[63:27] That's all they got.

[63:28] Cool.

[63:29] We get to the week of the thing.

[63:31] And this is the, the, the go live for all the,

[63:33] the snowflake stuff.

[63:35] So this is a big deal.

[63:36] And I, we get to,

[63:39] and during the week, I've been going,

[63:41] we're still good for these two clients

[63:43] on this day to go live.

[63:44] I'm gonna go, yes, yes.

[63:46] The day before at 6.40 pm,

[63:49] I get a message from this guy saying,

[63:51] we're still doing it for this client.

[63:54] Oh, yeah.

[63:55] And I,

[63:56] that's just sheer stupidity.

[63:58] Dude, and it's even more fucked

[64:00] because the message he sent that,

[64:04] where he sent that message is in a chat with me,

[64:07] him and this other woman who's in analytics.

[64:10] And maybe 10 messages up,

[64:12] he can see where I,

[64:13] like all the confirmation.

[64:14] That's your biggest peeve.

[64:15] Dude.

[64:16] His previous messages.

[64:18] Yeah, it's a big one.

[64:19] I mean, to ask a question,

[64:21] but like the evidence is staring him in the face.

[64:24] Like in the messaging group chat,

[64:26] and he's gone,

[64:27] wait, we're still doing that?

[64:29] And it's, I almost exploded on,

[64:32] I think that was, that was third or Wednesday night,

[64:34] where I was like, yes, we're still doing this.

[64:37] What can I do to help you make this work?

[64:40] I feel like when you say that,

[64:42] I feel like he knew he was fucking up

[64:44] and putting something off.

[64:46] And at some point,

[64:47] he had to, he's like, fuck,

[64:49] I have to break this tension.

[64:50] And he does it with, oh, we're still doing this.

[64:53] Yeah, obviously.

[64:54] I mean, it's, it's just like,

[64:57] wouldn't own up to any, like,

[64:59] there was no apology.

[65:01] Yeah, there was no anything.

[65:02] Throwing it on you, like, oh, really?

[65:04] Like, oh, it's just,

[65:05] it's just this.

[65:07] I'm the fucking asshole, dude.

[65:09] And so that's more than a peeve.

[65:10] That's just like, oh, it was like,

[65:12] that's just bad blatant negligence.

[65:14] Beans bad.

[65:15] Yeah, I mean, I told my boss,

[65:17] but it was just like,

[65:18] we had had these problems with this department before,

[65:20] but it's just like, people just,

[65:23] I don't know, man, just that shit,

[65:25] where I'm like, how do you have a job if this is happening?

[65:27] Like, who, I can't be the only one you're doing this to.

[65:30] There's no chance.

[65:31] What are the odds you observed the one bad thing

[65:34] that they did?

[65:35] And the department is,

[65:37] this guy has, they're infamous for like,

[65:40] you'll send a message about a thing

[65:42] you're both involved in.

[65:43] No response.

[65:45] You'll follow up, no response.

[65:47] And then the second they need something from you,

[65:49] look, oh, hey, once this got this ready.

[65:52] Yeah, it's like, dude, what?

[65:54] Oh, man, anyway, wind on that note.

[65:57] Shitty communication.

[65:58] Shitty communications, a big pet peeve.

[66:01] All right, folks, we'll see you next week.

[66:03] Love you.

[66:04] Bye.