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Episode 19 · 2026-04-08 · 11,758 words
The hosts dive into fascinating follow-ups including why powering the world with Sahara Desert solar panels could destroy the Amazon rainforest, and whether you can actually burp out a fart. They also explore dating app pet peeves, the psychology of pets viewing themselves as eternal babies, and controversial ideas about sports betting on women's cycles.

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[0:00] And then we're back.

[0:02] Another episode.

[0:03] Yo yo, a fake bronze ballcast.

[0:06] And the giga of one, you do your follow ups.

[0:09] Okay dude.

[0:10] Sorry I like how to hiccup birthday.

[0:11] Here's talking.

[0:14] Alright we got a couple of follow ups to open with.

[0:16] This one I've been wanting to do for a while.

[0:18] This might even require another follow up because it's so complicated.

[0:22] A while ago you said why can't we just power the world with the Sarah Desert.

[0:27] There you have the Throne Solar panels in there.

[0:30] Which, how did that come up?

[0:31] Was that just a thought you had?

[0:33] I was talking with energy efficiency with the owner of a chemical manufacturing company.

[0:38] They used to work for it.

[0:39] And he was just like no way.

[0:41] He was like there's no way in hell that could ever happen.

[0:43] With no explanation?

[0:45] Nothing.

[0:45] And then I looked it up and I was like I think it can be done.

[0:48] I could have been wrong but I you know.

[0:51] I think the answer is maybe but it's really fucking hard.

[0:55] So yeah looking at this this is like a very common debate that people have talked about for a while.

[0:59] Yeah.

[1:00] So first of all the cost would be insane.

[1:03] One study said it would cost or you would need 51.4 billion solar panels to cover 115,000 square miles to make an actual impact.

[1:15] The cost estimate for that is 514 trillion dollars.

[1:20] Oh my god.

[1:21] Which is 23 times the US economy.

[1:25] So right out the gate that's tough.

[1:28] That's tough.

[1:28] That's very tough.

[1:29] And that comes from just estimating the cost of a solar panel like for your house and then considering tons of added cost for building in the desert like carving out land carrying resources out there creating batteries.

[1:43] Hold on before we continue.

[1:44] We're talking about power in the world.

[1:47] The entire world.

[1:48] So then comparing to the American economy is not because if it's the whole world we have to take into account the whole world.

[1:55] Yeah that's just a reference point for how huge that number is.

[1:59] I mean it would take a multi-country collaboration.

[2:02] Yeah which is a fucking thing.

[2:03] Which yeah that would be fucking hard.

[2:06] Okay anyway.

[2:08] Okay there's also issues with transferring that power from the desert.

[2:12] It's a very remote location.

[2:13] Sure.

[2:13] The longer your cables are the more energy you lose.

[2:17] Sure.

[2:17] And it's already inefficient.

[2:18] Solar panels are like they convert 15% of light to actual energy and then you lose more depending on how long those cables are.

[2:27] Got it.

[2:27] Getting a somewhere like Australia would be super hard.

[2:30] Got it.

[2:32] All right now there's some other weird ones.

[2:36] I think I talked about batteries when you first brought this up.

[2:39] That's always a problem.

[2:40] Like right now I think our batteries couldn't do it.

[2:43] But I think it would be reasonable to say like in a decade or so we could have the storage capability.

[2:47] It's actually store the energy because light is not constant.

[2:52] Fair.

[2:55] The weirdest one that I never thought about.

[2:58] Apparently wind carries dust from the Sahara Desert to the Amazon rainforest.

[3:06] Okay.

[3:06] And I jumped the gun a little bit.

[3:09] So first of all, if you cover that much land that much of the desert with panels.

[3:17] Solar panels are darker than sand and they absorb more heat.

[3:21] So less heat is reflective more heat stays and that could be enough to literally warm the entire climate of the Sahara Desert.

[3:29] Wow.

[3:29] And potentially the whole world.

[3:31] Wow.

[3:32] Which is crazy.

[3:32] Yeah.

[3:33] That's a gun to go inside anything.

[3:35] But even if it only warmed the Sahara Desert.

[3:39] Yeah.

[3:40] That change in temperature relative to a surrounding areas could mess up wind patterns that carry stuff around the world.

[3:47] Okay.

[3:47] This is where the dust go into the Amazon rainforest makes a difference.

[3:52] Okay.

[3:52] So why do we care about the dust though that goes to the Amazon rainforest?

[3:54] Because, I don't know, let's see.

[3:57] We wrote down some numbers here.

[4:02] 22, 27.7 million tons of dust go from the Sahara to the Amazon rainforest every year.

[4:10] Okay.

[4:10] Within that is 22,000 tons of phosphorus that fertilizes the soil.

[4:14] Whoa.

[4:16] Holy shit.

[4:17] So it could literally, some people have said it would destroy the rainforest.

[4:22] Yeah, or other...

[4:23] If that current got disrupted.

[4:25] Yeah.

[4:26] I think it's fair to say at the very least it would be greatly changed.

[4:30] Damn, dude.

[4:31] F**k.

[4:32] But why can't I just have all the answers and be simple?

[4:34] Right.

[4:34] When I looked that up, I was like, oh, are they next to each other?

[4:37] I was like, no, they're not.

[4:39] They're not.

[4:39] They're a crock of caution.

[4:40] F**king world.

[4:41] Whoa.

[4:42] That's nuts.

[4:44] I mean...

[4:44] 27.7 million tons in the air across the sea.

[4:49] That's nuts.

[4:50] Well, dude, there's like a wind...

[4:52] F**k, what is it?

[4:55] When there's fires across the world, sometimes the smoke will end up in...

[4:58] Yeah.

[4:58] ...literally in opposite sides of the world.

[5:01] Like giant forest fires.

[5:02] So it's like, yeah, it's more connected than I guess we thought.

[5:06] The whole world's connected.

[5:07] Which is crazy.

[5:09] Because...

[5:09] So the...

[5:10] The stat that everyone says is like, oh, it only take like 1.6% of the desert area.

[5:16] Yeah.

[5:16] To produce enough power for the entire world.

[5:18] Which I think is accurate.

[5:19] But all the problems stem like after you harness that power.

[5:23] It's like, okay, say you got it.

[5:25] Yeah, yeah, the electricity is around.

[5:26] How do you distribute it?

[5:27] And how do you not f**k up the environment in different ways?

[5:30] Yeah.

[5:31] Damn.

[5:33] That's...

[5:33] Well, f**k.

[5:34] That was one of the better follow-ups I've ever heard.

[5:36] That was so...

[5:36] That was crazy, right?

[5:37] Yeah, dude.

[5:38] I know.

[5:38] I know.

[5:40] That was by far the weirdest one.

[5:42] And just the fact that like a relatively small portion of us intervening in the desert...

[5:48] Yeah.

[5:48] That could have a global heating impact.

[5:51] Yeah.

[5:53] Yeah.

[5:53] This is all from simulation and stuff too.

[5:55] First of all, it's like...

[5:56] I wouldn't really know.

[5:57] How accurate can you be?

[5:58] Well, then yeah, there's a lot of...

[5:59] Well, I won't go into that.

[6:00] But, um...

[6:01] I'll go into it.

[6:02] Well, dude.

[6:03] Like the climate change stuff.

[6:06] I used to be like a die hard like...

[6:09] Word, the CO2, and the methane.

[6:11] Sure.

[6:11] And we're all caught...

[6:12] And it's all human impact.

[6:13] And it's like...

[6:14] We're starting to have portions of the ocean cool down by itself.

[6:18] But like we're only creating morseo too now.

[6:21] And so it's like...

[6:23] That goes against everything...

[6:25] That people have been talking about.

[6:26] They're like, we're only going to move in a warming direction.

[6:28] Nothing's going to be cooler.

[6:30] Yeah.

[6:31] It's something like a large part of the Atlantic ocean is now like...

[6:35] Going down in temperature for some reason.

[6:37] Well, again, we can't explain.

[6:39] I think...

[6:40] I'm not a climatologist or anything, but it seems like...

[6:44] We can get in this space...

[6:45] And also government weaponizes a lot of those policies...

[6:48] Or a lot of those ideas to make policy in their favor.

[6:51] But there's like...

[6:53] A lot of the times we have these like...

[6:56] Theoretical models on things that we don't actually...

[6:59] Like we don't know the history of the world's climate.

[7:02] It's pretty cocky of us to think we can just map out everything...

[7:05] Yeah, it's complicated as the world.

[7:06] It's like...

[7:07] Yeah.

[7:08] We don't even know what the last 500 years actually looked like in terms of temperature.

[7:12] Right.

[7:12] Like we weren't measuring that stuff.

[7:13] And suddenly we're like, yeah, we know what's gonna happen in the next 100 years.

[7:17] Due to our stuff.

[7:18] Yeah.

[7:19] Like even the stuff I just said, like...

[7:22] Concrete numbers, like millions of tons...

[7:24] Yeah.

[7:25] ...to the decimal points.

[7:26] Like it's probably not really accurate.

[7:28] It's estimates with like...

[7:30] If you were to put that in the context of any like...

[7:33] Actual good experiment.

[7:34] Like a thoroughly randomized controlled trial study...

[7:37] You look at it and go, yeah, that's like nothing, dude.

[7:40] It's guesswork and that's...

[7:41] There's so many of it's conjecture.

[7:42] Yeah.

[7:43] Well, evidence-based conjecture.

[7:45] A lot of it.

[7:46] But evidence, so like in the climb stuff, evidence of like...

[7:49] Evidence that could be interpreted multiple ways.

[7:51] True, but also evidence that's like relative to...

[7:54] If you were to actually open up and go, okay, we have the evidence of the past 100 years of what climate looks like and will look like now.

[7:59] And you go, well, how has the world been around?

[8:02] Oh, you know, millions, billions of years.

[8:03] It's like...

[8:04] Right.

[8:04] Oh, so you took like a minute of a day and measured that.

[8:07] And said, this is what a whole day is gonna be.

[8:09] Yeah.

[8:09] I don't know, man.

[8:10] Not to be the conspiracy bullshit guy, but it's like it just seems...

[8:14] Now the oceans are starting to cool in certain spots.

[8:16] I'm like, oh, man.

[8:18] It's weird.

[8:20] But...

[8:20] Who the fuck cares?

[8:21] I think it's reasonable to be skeptical.

[8:26] To a degree of like, is it really Doomsday at this exact year?

[8:32] Yeah.

[8:32] I think it's also reasonable to say like we've caused some warming.

[8:36] But...

[8:37] Totally, man.

[8:38] We've had an impact.

[8:39] You can't deny that.

[8:41] But to...

[8:42] But I think the degree is...

[8:43] It's reasonable to question that.

[8:45] We'll do that.

[8:46] Not to always bring back to government bullshit, but there's a trend of...

[8:51] Whenever you're told that you can't be against an idea, whether it be...

[8:55] Whether it be a war in Iraq or climate change, and you get just like attacked

[8:59] for having to view against that, it's typically...

[9:02] Raises red flags.

[9:03] It does, man.

[9:04] And it should always.

[9:05] Not to say that everything's always a conspiracy, but when people are like,

[9:08] No, you're anti-freedom if you don't want to go like, kill Saddam Hussein,

[9:12] or you're anti-human if suddenly that you're like, climate change isn't real or isn't as crazy as it's demanded.

[9:18] When you're attacked for those views, it's like...

[9:21] And then they just...

[9:22] They'll find crazy people who are like the most...

[9:24] They're on the other end of that stuff, and then go like, this is what an anti-climate person is doing.

[9:27] Oh, that's...

[9:28] Yeah, it's just like dismiss...

[9:29] Disadvantedly.

[9:30] Yeah, dismiss any logic at all behind the other argument.

[9:34] So...

[9:34] Yeah.

[9:35] I'm glad you brought this stuff up.

[9:37] Any other follow-ups?

[9:38] Uh, yes.

[9:40] I got one more.

[9:42] So...

[9:42] A while ago, we asked the question, can you burp out a fart?

[9:49] And the answer is kind of.

[9:51] Hit me with this.

[9:52] So, okay.

[9:53] You'll hold on.

[9:53] Let me pull up this article.

[9:55] I only really found one comprehensive article on this.

[10:01] Okay.

[10:01] If you decide not to release a fart, some of the gas will be reabsorbed into the circulatory system.

[10:09] From there, it goes to the lungs for a gas exchange throughout the pulmonary circulatory system,

[10:15] and it is expelled through breathing.

[10:18] Oh.

[10:19] While this isn't a mouth fart per se, it's the gas from the fart coming out of your mouth.

[10:26] Technically, your burp, right?

[10:28] Yeah, you're doing...

[10:29] So it's not like a burp.

[10:30] Yeah, you had a...

[10:31] Like slow release.

[10:32] You're breathing fart out.

[10:34] Hahaha.

[10:36] It's only an NPR voice.

[10:39] You're breathing fart out.

[10:42] Holy fuck.

[10:43] It's, uh, so...

[10:44] Yeah.

[10:45] So, something related to that.

[10:47] How did that come up?

[10:49] I don't know.

[10:50] I don't know.

[10:51] Maybe holding in your fart.

[10:52] I feel like it was probably from...

[10:55] Because we all have grown up and been when we...

[10:57] Well, I shouldn't say all.

[10:58] Being in relationships when you're younger, you hold your farts in entirely.

[11:02] Like a teenager.

[11:02] And I don't know how many times I'd have extreme stomach aches for holding in my farts for four hours.

[11:07] And I...

[11:07] Maybe...

[11:08] I feel like it came up from that.

[11:09] I mean, like, if I just hold in, this eventually just come out the other end.

[11:11] Yeah.

[11:12] But, here's another thing I think about that.

[11:14] My friend who...

[11:15] His sister is a nurse.

[11:19] And...

[11:19] People get extremely constipated.

[11:21] You can get to a point where poop starts to come out your mouth.

[11:26] You can get so filled with shit.

[11:28] That's real?

[11:28] That's real.

[11:29] And his sister was literally like...

[11:32] Experience someone die from this.

[11:35] I was gonna...

[11:36] How do you not die like a long time before that even happened?

[11:39] I have no idea.

[11:40] But apparently you get to a point where you are regurgitating poop.

[11:44] So it got all the way to your stomach.

[11:46] And then it starts to back up so much that you just start like poop starts coming out the other end.

[11:51] So I mean, that's like...

[11:52] It's funny how like...

[11:53] It's either...

[11:54] You're not...

[11:54] You're releasing gas but not burping through your mouth.

[11:57] Or you're releasing shit.

[11:57] There's no in between.

[11:59] Well, okay.

[12:00] If you say in that means makes me feel like...

[12:03] You can absolutely fart out of your mouth.

[12:04] If you can poop out of your mouth.

[12:06] But the same action is not.

[12:08] Like, you're not...

[12:10] I guess we should look at what a burp is.

[12:13] It's just gas trapped in your stomach.

[12:14] But why is it that?

[12:15] Because if like the version of what you just described is like releasing, you're not actually like...

[12:19] Like making a noise.

[12:21] Yeah.

[12:21] So what I just described is coming from your lungs.

[12:23] Like you're just breathing it out.

[12:25] That's not your stomach.

[12:26] So then, yeah, there's like poop in your fucking...

[12:29] You could probably burp apart then.

[12:32] And if there's poop in there, because it's probably...

[12:34] Poope emits a lot of gas.

[12:36] So that's verified what you just said can happen.

[12:39] Poope...

[12:39] You were even follow up.

[12:40] Yeah.

[12:41] My friends seem pretty convinced.

[12:42] I mean, I just googled can you fart out of your mouth and it was a resounding no.

[12:46] So if I...

[12:47] My sirs, can you poop out of your mouth and everyone's like, yeah.

[12:52] It's possible, man.

[12:53] I can follow up.

[12:54] Okay.

[12:55] I think I can throw it the other way.

[12:56] But my friend seemed very...

[12:59] I guess I should have looked it up to you.

[13:01] The other thing that I found in a lot of these was your digestive tract is like 30 feet long.

[13:06] It's like super long.

[13:07] So that's the argument for how it couldn't happen.

[13:11] Because I think if gas kept piling up,

[13:13] I feel like there would just be so much pressure on your butt you would have to release.

[13:19] I don't know.

[13:21] I saw like I'm so far away from understanding the anatomy and how gas pressure works for all.

[13:26] I have no fucking clue, man.

[13:27] But either way, if we find out,

[13:30] because dude, South Park did an entire episode on that where carbon was loathing out.

[13:33] And it was like, oh, yeah, that would never happen.

[13:36] But then my friends like, oh no, it happens.

[13:38] Oh my god.

[13:41] So that's horrifying.

[13:43] Dude, talk about a way to go.

[13:44] You like the last bits of your life are you vomiting?

[13:48] That's maybe the only thing worse than vomiting,

[13:51] I can imagine would be vomiting shit.

[13:54] You got that right.

[13:57] It's already horrible.

[13:58] I think there's no worse form of vomit.

[14:01] Like that is definitely.

[14:02] If anything's coming out of your mouth in voluntary and it's shit, that's the end.

[14:07] That's horrible.

[14:07] Yes.

[14:08] Wow.

[14:09] Well, that took us on a path.

[14:10] Yeah.

[14:11] I'm happy about it though.

[14:12] All right.

[14:12] Ready to shift?

[14:13] Take us away.

[14:14] Okay.

[14:15] It was on Bumble.

[14:16] Okay.

[14:17] And I have photos, as we've talked about before, as men.

[14:21] You just don't take pictures.

[14:23] Like all of my pictures are either me with friends or like end the dating profile stuff.

[14:28] I just put up like pictures from my Facebook that are probably like five years old.

[14:31] No.

[14:32] And so, have pictures up there.

[14:33] I've never had this happen.

[14:35] Apparently this girl went to my school, was graduated different year for me.

[14:38] But she, I guess from one of them you can tell like, was that, or maybe she even knew me.

[14:42] Now that I'm thinking about it more like, how would she know what year I went to school?

[14:47] You didn't know her at all?

[14:49] No.

[14:49] It was just a girl that also went to Carol.

[14:52] No, shit.

[14:53] You went to university.

[14:56] And she was like, I forgot exactly what, actually I could probably fucking find it.

[15:00] But she said like something about my pictures being old.

[15:04] And I was like, I have that first knee-jerk reaction of about to be like, fuck you bitch.

[15:10] And then I was like, wait, how did she figure that out?

[15:14] When you told me this, I thought you knew her.

[15:16] No.

[15:16] No, no, no, no.

[15:18] Let's see.

[15:21] I don't know.

[15:21] I don't know.

[15:21] I don't want to be buying this.

[15:22] There's a old.

[15:24] Yeah.

[15:25] So I don't know.

[15:27] I just don't know.

[15:27] Did you have like a graduated at this date picture that just clearly showed your age?

[15:33] I don't think so.

[15:34] That's where I'm like, I got more confused by it than not.

[15:37] That is super, that's way weirder.

[15:38] But also on top of it.

[15:41] Would you ever be that person?

[15:43] Call someone out on old photos.

[15:45] That strikes me as like a bitter, like I'm just tired of dating apps.

[15:48] Yeah.

[15:49] To say that, to someone like that.

[15:50] I don't even know this person.

[15:52] And they're like, oh, there's some old photos, aren't they?

[15:54] For the first thing you say to someone on a date.

[15:56] Did you respond to be like, how did you know?

[15:58] No, I don't think I responded at all.

[16:00] I think I just, I was like, I might fuck her up.

[16:02] That person's the fucking crazy.

[16:03] The chance that I would want to date that person.

[16:05] But the thing is they were old.

[16:06] You're admitting that, right?

[16:08] Oh, for sure.

[16:09] Oh, yeah.

[16:10] They got to be at least five years old.

[16:12] Or I'm.

[16:13] Yeah.

[16:14] Maybe she just saw your age.

[16:16] Is your age accurate?

[16:17] Yeah.

[16:18] Profile?

[16:18] That'd be crazy if I wasn't.

[16:19] Maybe she's like, no way that dude is that old based on these pictures.

[16:24] No, it was in the thing she said was in context to like Carol University.

[16:29] It was like, she knew I was there at a certain time.

[16:32] And I don't know her.

[16:33] Oh, okay.

[16:34] Yeah.

[16:35] Interesting.

[16:35] What she either knows, what she either goes, I think she knows you.

[16:40] Probably.

[16:40] I mean, it's not to say I was a pop.

[16:43] You were a legend too.

[16:44] I was, I mean, well, I was.

[16:49] Like everyone knew me by the end of like me going there.

[16:52] So it's there you go.

[16:53] That's probably it.

[16:54] But it's just hilarious for someone to be like to open a dating conversation with.

[16:59] Yeah, your pictures are pretty old on your aren't they?

[17:01] Like, what do I say back to that?

[17:02] Maybe it was in her mind.

[17:04] It was like a playful little roast.

[17:06] Yeah, that's people are.

[17:10] How do you feel about?

[17:13] You don't like being roasted?

[17:16] Dude, I love being roasted.

[17:18] But in the beginning of meeting someone, I don't think I would ever roast it.

[17:21] To open it that way is even the like first date.

[17:24] I don't think I'd ever roast anybody.

[17:27] Like I got to have a little more time with them before I'm like.

[17:29] Yeah, that's another level of intimacy.

[17:32] Yeah, for sure.

[17:33] Because it's like how do you you don't know if I'm kidding or not?

[17:36] It's left up to interpretation of me insulting you.

[17:40] Yeah.

[17:40] It's fucking nuts.

[17:43] For me, I speak very monotone too.

[17:45] So yeah, I would not dare throw a roast out there.

[17:48] No, dude, I mean, but you have you have inflection in your voice.

[17:52] Not really.

[17:57] You do have a, I guess me talking to you, I can tell if your blog is referring to you.

[18:05] You know me now.

[18:07] True.

[18:07] I guess yeah, if you want to grow and you're like.

[18:09] I get it a lot.

[18:10] New people who meet me, they're like, you're very monotone.

[18:13] Like, why do you have no emotion?

[18:16] Interesting.

[18:16] I have no feelings.

[18:19] I've never thought that about you my entire life.

[18:21] Yeah.

[18:21] But I also like, I feel like the beginning of us being friends was like us laughing and

[18:26] being drunk for most of it.

[18:27] Probably.

[18:28] And so it's like what your voice sounds like.

[18:30] Thank alcohol like gets rid of the monotone.

[18:33] I start talking all over the place.

[18:36] You had some octaves I didn't even know were possible.

[18:38] Exactly.

[18:39] It's kind of crazy.

[18:40] I have incredible range.

[18:41] Oh, truly.

[18:43] Okay.

[18:44] So yeah, that roasting early in today and in someone.

[18:48] And also not to be sexist.

[18:50] Cross gender, sex.

[18:52] There's a little bit more landmine to can step on.

[18:56] We're like, if I go roast a guy, it's more roasting a woman is crazy.

[18:59] Exactly.

[19:00] That I don't know well.

[19:01] Yes.

[19:01] Even someone I know well.

[19:03] That's what I do.

[19:04] I rarely roast women in general because before that reason.

[19:08] So it's like, if I go on a first date, be like, oh, you stupid fat bitch.

[19:13] Just get it.

[19:14] I mean, yeah, that's not even a roast.

[19:17] That's just being blatantly mean.

[19:20] No, I'm just kidding.

[19:22] It's a joke.

[19:23] You don't get it.

[19:25] But yeah, even dude, I can go out and out about this.

[19:31] But like, bro, you need to, sorry.

[19:32] Whoa.

[19:33] No, tell me what I fucking need.

[19:35] You need to go on a date.

[19:37] Like actually meet one of these people.

[19:39] The crazy people.

[19:41] Or you never go on dates, though, right?

[19:43] You just, I'm calling you up.

[19:46] Yeah, no, I truly have all these conversations.

[19:48] I never pulled a trick.

[19:49] So yes.

[19:50] Yeah.

[19:51] I mean, purely for research purposes.

[19:54] That's the only reason I'm saying it.

[19:55] But then I feel bad, too.

[19:57] That's the one part that's hard for me to talk about.

[19:58] You're just harvesting someone's emotion first.

[20:01] Entertainment of our listeners.

[20:03] Exactly.

[20:03] And then just publicly broadcasting it.

[20:05] Yeah.

[20:06] I'll do it.

[20:08] No, I'll, uh, if another crazy one comes up, I'll see if I can

[20:12] pull something off.

[20:14] But they're, dude, it's so hard to do that.

[20:16] Like, knowing that I'm doing this for like, you're entirely right.

[20:21] Yeah, it's tough.

[20:23] Similar thing came up, which is totally different.

[20:25] But my buddy was like, dude, you should be like interviewing around while you're,

[20:29] while you're not looking for a job.

[20:31] And I'm like, oh, feels like I'm just wasting people's time knowing I'm not going to take a job.

[20:36] Yeah.

[20:36] So I'm saying it.

[20:37] If there's no chance you're taking it.

[20:39] That's what I'm saying.

[20:39] I was like, I don't want to leave where I am.

[20:41] And he's like, well, dude, you should be like job shopping around all the time.

[20:43] Like, I don't think so.

[20:46] That's pretty common take I've heard.

[20:48] I don't necessarily agree.

[20:50] Like, they're like, just know your worth.

[20:52] Like, no, know what you could get.

[20:54] Yeah, but like, you don't have to interview.

[20:56] I don't know.

[20:57] I, there's enough metrics out there to know kind of generally what you should be worth.

[21:02] Yeah.

[21:03] Maybe if it's a niche market, no.

[21:04] Or I think the other argument is just to keep your interview skills sharp.

[21:08] I hear that one too.

[21:09] There's that part of me that goes, I feel like I'm lying to someone the entire time.

[21:13] If I know I'm not taking the job and I make it to the final interview.

[21:16] And they're like, here's an offer.

[21:18] I'm like, nah, I don't want it.

[21:19] I feel so disingenuous.

[21:21] Flipside companies interview people all the time that they have no intention of hiring.

[21:25] Because they have to fill quotas.

[21:27] Like, you have to interview five times for this job, even when they already know a candidate that they're going to pick.

[21:32] Let me, let me counter that counter.

[21:34] Okay.

[21:35] I've been the guy interviewing someone.

[21:37] And I know the amount of, it's due to so much work to go through client after client.

[21:41] And when you find someone where you're like, oh, this is going to be good.

[21:44] To have that person be like, no, there is an idea of the company does it all the time.

[21:50] But then the people, the boots on the ground doing the interviewing, it sucks dude.

[21:55] To just like, yeah, all this work.

[21:57] And then they have to be like, nope, now you gotta start all over again.

[22:00] I feel you.

[22:01] It's like the same as dating, it sucks.

[22:03] Yeah, dude.

[22:03] So I just don't want to, I know the companies do it all the time, but I don't want to like be the guy to have to fucking cause someone to go through that shit.

[22:10] Like literally wasted time.

[22:12] I think.

[22:12] So anyway, I had to get that one out there.

[22:15] Sure.

[22:16] All right.

[22:17] New Jersey and Rhode Island won't prosecute for incest.

[22:21] Isn't that interesting?

[22:23] Yes.

[22:24] I think.

[22:25] Good answer.

[22:27] I've never thought about it.

[22:29] What happens in an incest crime?

[22:32] Like someone, some prior reports it reports it.

[22:35] Yeah.

[22:35] So that implies it's, oh, you, someone outside of the people involved.

[22:40] What if it's consensual?

[22:41] I think it's mostly outside.

[22:43] Okay.

[22:44] So it's not that it's rape.

[22:46] Right, right.

[22:46] So, consensual incest exists.

[22:50] Yes.

[22:51] Most definitely.

[22:52] And someone else is like, fuck, because like, I know that's wrong.

[22:55] Yes.

[22:57] That's crazy.

[22:58] Yeah.

[22:58] And then they can, well, they should report it.

[23:04] But it's just wild that that's the mechanism.

[23:06] Yeah.

[23:07] I guess it's like, how else?

[23:10] Cause if those people are doing it and they're happy about it, they're not going to go anywhere

[23:14] and tell me, well, they might tell people, but they might not report to the government.

[23:18] What if they're happy about it, but they just feel guilty and they just turn themselves in?

[23:22] Interesting.

[23:23] I doubt that happens.

[23:25] Yeah.

[23:25] Very highly doubt it.

[23:26] But I don't know, man.

[23:28] I thought it was legal everywhere.

[23:31] Or sorry, I guess it is legal everywhere, but those two places don't prosecute.

[23:35] So if someone, so it's effectively legal, effectively, but I think you like it processed.

[23:40] It's like someone could report you, you get processed, and then one of the cases comes to court.

[23:43] Just get a ticket.

[23:44] They just, fuck, and your brother's sister.

[23:48] Yeah, dude.

[23:49] It's a misdemeanor.

[23:50] I mean, I want to know the numbers on incest.

[23:54] Like, how common is that?

[23:56] It can't be that.

[23:57] I would imagine very uncommon.

[23:59] Yeah.

[23:59] But even in my head nowadays, it seems like it seems like a remnant of the past where there

[24:05] was very, very, very small towns and pockets of people who were disconnected.

[24:09] Like, the only way of making more people was to just like, the only woman or man in a 10-mile

[24:15] raises a second cousin.

[24:17] Yes.

[24:17] Or I mean, that's not, but we're talking like sister, brother, which I think that's been frowned on, though, for most of human history.

[24:24] Like, people aren't fucking, they're like relatives that.

[24:26] Well, I should say that.

[24:28] Well, Adam and Eve.

[24:30] Well, if you want to make that argument, we're all fucking.

[24:33] Exactly.

[24:33] It's all, it's all in.

[24:34] Sure.

[24:35] We are just dilution from supposedly one.

[24:37] So it's like, and I'm not a geneticist, but I wonder if there's theory behind like the reason why mutations exist is because you fuck someone close enough in the gene pool that you didn't know.

[24:48] Oh, okay.

[24:49] And there's also the randomization part of it, too, right?

[24:51] Like, there's a chance that people having instance don't have a fucked up kid.

[24:55] That could totally happen, too.

[24:56] But like, I wonder if it's like, oh yeah, if you two fuck you have a high percent chance.

[25:01] And it's because you're just like, because you're your 800th cousins instead of like a million.

[25:06] Exactly.

[25:08] Yeah.

[25:08] It would be weird.

[25:10] But yeah, it would be also also.

[25:13] Imagine like going through, even if you weren't doing incest.

[25:18] And so I reported you.

[25:20] You'd have to like, your name would be so dry through the mud forever.

[25:23] So I reported you for incest.

[25:24] Yeah, because like, you'd have like cops.

[25:26] I know this guy, folks, his brother.

[25:29] That'd be crazy.

[25:30] Dude, if you're reporting incest, you got to be certain.

[25:35] How are you certain other than seeing you watched it?

[25:38] I feel like that's the only way.

[25:41] Yeah, but how?

[25:42] We should look up how often it gets prosecuted in other states.

[25:46] Yeah.

[25:46] And like, how that proceeding unfolds.

[25:50] Yeah, I don't even know what the charge is.

[25:52] Or I should, like, I don't know if it's a misdemeanor, I don't know if it's a felony.

[25:55] I have no idea.

[25:55] Did we look up something like this where there's degrees of incest?

[25:59] If it feels familiar what we're talking about, I don't remember.

[26:01] Like brother and sister would be the highest degree and then like cousin is lower.

[26:05] Yeah, for sure.

[26:06] You know, I think we looked that up in the, no, it was like a legal standing.

[26:11] There's a certain point where it's not illegal anymore.

[26:13] Yeah, and I think it's like you can actually sleep with your cousin.

[26:15] I think that was the, yeah, I love that.

[26:17] I swear that was it.

[26:18] Because I think that conversation also started from like the percentages of like you having a fucked,

[26:24] a genetically mutated kid is way lower than we thought.

[26:28] Where it's like between brother and sister that's like three percent or something.

[26:31] And then beyond that, it's like abysmal, like in low, low, low decimals,

[26:35] it's like cousin stuff.

[26:37] But anyway, you know, good follow up though.

[26:40] To figure out what happens when they prosecute for incest, what's the charge?

[26:44] Who's doing it?

[26:45] Did you see anything as to why they don't prosecute?

[26:48] No.

[26:49] Also two random places to not do that.

[26:52] New Hampshire, New Jersey.

[26:53] Rhode Island, New Jersey.

[26:55] Like, yeah, I don't, because I could see like those are connected, right?

[27:01] Or no?

[27:03] I don't, I know, they're super close.

[27:06] I don't know if they're technically connected.

[27:09] It's just one of those things too, where like, if it was like a big,

[27:12] if it was like New York in California, I'd be like, oh, okay, super left-leaning, weird policy.

[27:16] Like I could see flying out of that umbrella, but like New Jersey I think is a pretty...

[27:19] Those are two of the least thought about states, I feel like.

[27:23] Right.

[27:23] So it's like why?

[27:24] Good questions all around.

[27:26] I have no answer for them.

[27:28] Okay.

[27:29] Top of where files for bankruptcy, because they make products that are too good.

[27:34] How'd explain.

[27:35] They're filing for bankruptcy, and in my head I go, oh, because they're not selling anymore.

[27:39] Right.

[27:39] I have top of where for them, that's like a decade old.

[27:41] There you go, man.

[27:42] They made a product that literally is just, you don't need any more once you have it.

[27:45] So they formed a company, solved a problem worldwide, and now they don't need to exist.

[27:52] Yeah.

[27:53] That's crazy.

[27:54] And then all, I mean...

[27:58] Whoever was the creator of top of where I can go, I actually solved a problem.

[28:02] And brought it to its conclusion.

[28:04] Yeah, dude.

[28:05] That's nuts.

[28:06] Who, what other companies done that?

[28:07] Been like, done onto the next product.

[28:10] I don't know.

[28:14] Do they make only plastic, or do they make the glass ones too?

[28:17] I think they make glass things now too.

[28:19] Okay.

[28:20] Because I was wondering if a lot of people are pushing back on plastics and microplastics.

[28:24] Yeah.

[28:24] Yeah, yeah.

[28:25] If any of that is part of it.

[28:26] But...

[28:26] Could be.

[28:27] Is it literally just because their products stay around?

[28:29] I think it's because they stay around.

[28:30] It's because it's such a good product.

[28:32] So I think they've been in glass for a long time.

[28:34] Because I have some top of where baking sheets.

[28:36] Sure.

[28:38] But yeah.

[28:39] That's also one of those companies I don't even realize.

[28:42] You don't even think of that as a company.

[28:43] That's like an object.

[28:45] Right.

[28:45] It's almost like a government entity that's just like, here's your top of where you get a warehouse.

[28:48] Exactly.

[28:49] All right.

[28:50] Here's the top of where.

[28:53] I think when I brought that, when I was writing that down, I was trying to think of other companies.

[28:57] If they've ever gotten close to solving, like, how many of it was so good that you buy one?

[29:02] It's like, well, I don't need anything else ever again in that realm of product.

[29:06] And I found...

[29:08] There's a story about a car that I can't remember.

[29:11] It was either a Honda or a Toyota.

[29:14] And it's like the profit...

[29:16] It was such a good car.

[29:18] And it was more sporty-ish.

[29:20] But the profit margin after everything was said and done was like a dollar.

[29:25] And so they are making this car that everybody loved so much.

[29:29] And then it just discontinued purely because it was like, they were making the product out of like, altruism almost.

[29:35] Sure.

[29:36] Like just to make it...

[29:37] Yeah, to not take that profit.

[29:38] Yeah.

[29:39] That's just a poorly run business.

[29:40] Right.

[29:41] You're just doing things to do things.

[29:43] But that's the closest thing I could think of.

[29:46] But I can't think of...

[29:46] But that car will break down though.

[29:48] For sure.

[29:49] Yeah.

[29:49] That's definitely not like, you have it.

[29:50] You're good forever.

[29:54] But you can make the armen for the Tupperware.

[29:56] Even then when they go into the glass realm, you can break glass.

[29:59] Like plastic Tupperware and net breaks.

[30:01] Right.

[30:02] Also, I'm kind of surprised because I have old Tupperware and like, every couple of years or so, I'm like, this is old.

[30:08] I'm just going to throw it away.

[30:09] I feel like a lot of people do that.

[30:11] Yeah.

[30:12] But I can say this, I found more households to have more old Tupperware that's been around.

[30:16] It has like, post-extains that have been there for 20 years.

[30:20] And it looks disgusting.

[30:22] They still fucking use it.

[30:23] I mean, dude, going through like living with roommates and colleges, I don't know how many cabinets were filled with Tupperware from like,

[30:29] all the people who can join in their Tupperware masses.

[30:32] Oh, yeah, dude.

[30:32] I've had some massive Tupperware cases.

[30:34] It's like, it becomes like most of our kitchen stuff.

[30:36] It's just Tupperware.

[30:37] Yeah.

[30:38] So anyway, cool stuff.

[30:40] I guess anything plastic could be like that.

[30:43] But Tupperware is the most, I feel like that's one of the most utilized, plastic things.

[30:47] What do you think of the use, too?

[30:48] Because it's like, yes.

[30:49] Most things can be entirely plastic.

[30:51] But then it's like, Tupperware just has to literally exist in the shape.

[30:54] It doesn't have like a function.

[30:58] I guess it stores things, but it's not like, doesn't have to look nice.

[31:01] And there's no like motion that would cause parts to degrade.

[31:04] It just sits there.

[31:05] And it holds.

[31:07] And plastic is just doing its job for this company.

[31:11] That's all it asks for nothing in return.

[31:13] It's the most American product you can ever think of.

[31:15] It's probably a Chinese company.

[31:17] All right.

[31:20] PornHub Premium is available to the top 10 sexually named cities.

[31:24] I put one example in here.

[31:25] It's called Coming Georgia with two M's coming.

[31:29] What did you just say?

[31:31] What are you talking about?

[31:32] PornHub.

[31:33] There's a free version.

[31:34] And there's a premium version you should work for.

[31:36] I don't know who the fuck would ever buy premium.

[31:38] Like, it always blows my mind when I find out.

[31:41] Is it the free stuff good enough?

[31:42] There's so much of it.

[31:43] How could you want?

[31:44] I don't need it.

[31:45] Maybe the premium is just that good.

[31:47] I have no idea.

[31:48] But apparently, PornHub, the top 10 sexually named cities in the United States gets free premium.

[31:56] That's what I'm confused about.

[31:57] Who does that?

[31:58] Who does what he means sexually named?

[32:00] Well, an example of a town is called Coming.

[32:04] You mean literally like wordplay?

[32:06] Yes.

[32:06] Like, a town is called a sex name.

[32:09] And so they give the entire town with that zip code.

[32:11] Free premium.

[32:13] The town is called Coming.

[32:15] The town is called Coming, Georgia.

[32:17] What are you in Georgia?

[32:17] Do you got other ones?

[32:19] I only got that one.

[32:20] I'd probably wrote down more.

[32:21] That's unbelievable.

[32:23] When you said that, I thought you meant like some entity decides who the most sexual cities are.

[32:28] It gives them free PornHub.

[32:30] Yeah.

[32:31] No.

[32:31] Now, it's all in PornHub's control.

[32:34] But they are deciding for sure.

[32:37] Yeah.

[32:40] So I'd...

[32:43] Coming, Georgia.

[32:44] Yeah.

[32:44] That would be...

[32:45] That's hilarious.

[32:47] It's such a random...

[32:49] It'd be weird to have that as like a badge of honor for that town.

[32:52] Like, there's no way anything else goes on in coming, Georgia.

[32:55] Right.

[32:56] You're just like the PornHub premium town.

[32:57] Yeah.

[32:57] That's your fun fact.

[32:59] We all have PornHub premium.

[33:01] Yeah.

[33:01] We're all freaks.

[33:04] It feels in line with like, they're starting to become sponsors and sports from like only fans and stuff like that.

[33:11] And we're like starting to merge into this world where sponsors are like sex...

[33:15] Beyond sex toys, but like literal just sex sites.

[33:19] Yeah.

[33:20] And it's...

[33:21] Yeah.

[33:22] I guess who gives a shit?

[33:24] If they have a lot of money, only fans have so much money.

[33:26] Probably.

[33:27] Damn, dude.

[33:29] Oh yeah.

[33:30] Cool stuff.

[33:32] Totally first order of action.

[33:34] I'm gonna find all the other cities.

[33:35] Sounds like another...

[33:37] A lot of followers coming out of this podcast.

[33:38] What's up?

[33:39] There we at.

[33:39] Alright, 30.

[33:40] We got plenty.

[33:43] Oh man.

[33:44] I guess I don't even know if this is a pet peeve, but when you're not to bring bets at dating apps, but when you're on...

[33:53] You're looking through some of their descriptions of themselves on their dating profile.

[33:56] And it says putting like people almost advertising that they don't exercise.

[34:02] I'm like, no.

[34:04] What do you think that does?

[34:05] That's a horrible selling point.

[34:06] Yeah.

[34:07] Like what?

[34:09] I try to wrap my head around like how they would view that.

[34:12] Honestly, that might even be more altruistic.

[34:16] It's like just so you know, I don't exercise if that's a problem for you.

[34:21] Could be, yeah, just being honest.

[34:22] Yeah.

[34:23] Yeah.

[34:23] Rather than like a selling point.

[34:25] Because I think there's people who like would be exhausted if they were dating someone who was like a hardcore workout person.

[34:32] That's true.

[34:33] That's true.

[34:33] I get that.

[34:34] I think they're not into it at all.

[34:35] I guess I just think of like when someone says I don't exercise, I imagine them not moving ever.

[34:40] Yeah.

[34:40] So I get the hardcore workout argument of like, I don't want someone who's like hiking most times the week and is working out.

[34:46] Like someone who's like a per...

[34:48] Like that is their life.

[34:49] There are people who it's their whole life.

[34:51] Which I get.

[34:51] You can almost tell by looking at them.

[34:53] It's like you spend hours in the gym.

[34:54] Yeah.

[34:55] They look phenomenal.

[34:56] Yeah.

[34:56] But at the cost of their soul.

[34:59] Yes.

[35:00] Exactly.

[35:00] But I just...

[35:01] The not exercising at all.

[35:04] It's a red flag for me.

[35:06] Not to be...

[35:06] Absolutely.

[35:07] I wanted a day with someone and she said that she looked fine by the way.

[35:11] Oh yes.

[35:11] But she's like, yeah, I don't work out.

[35:13] I never have.

[35:14] Yeah.

[35:15] And in my head I'm just like, that's going to catch up to you.

[35:18] For sure.

[35:19] At some points.

[35:20] Yeah.

[35:21] I mean, if not physically.

[35:22] Because like you could control most of it through the kitchen.

[35:25] Right.

[35:25] You could eat good foods.

[35:26] Like mentally dude, if you're not moving all the time.

[35:28] I shouldn't say all the time.

[35:30] If you're not moving the minimum of the recommendation that the government puts the place.

[35:33] There's like 150 minutes per week in which you're not a cardio.

[35:35] Which is like going on 30 minutes, walk a day.

[35:39] Yeah.

[35:39] Your brain just starts to like turn shit.

[35:42] Right.

[35:43] I mean, if you ever want to test that theory, it's very easy to just like...

[35:46] I experience when no exercise feels like...

[35:47] I can feel it firsthand.

[35:48] Like I know when I go a while without doing anything.

[35:51] Yeah.

[35:51] My mood gets worse.

[35:52] It's very noticeable.

[35:53] We're built to move so much.

[35:55] Also to your point about like you can control that through the kitchen.

[35:58] I feel like someone who doesn't exercise.

[36:00] It's either not like a hardcore kitchen.

[36:02] True.

[36:03] Yeah.

[36:03] They tend to go hand in hand.

[36:05] Actually I did have a friend kind of an acquaintance who like...

[36:10] went on a hardcore like weight loss journey.

[36:13] Uh-huh.

[36:14] And I kind of like heard about it through another friend and then I asked.

[36:17] I was like, oh, so what's his workout plan?

[36:18] There's like no workouts.

[36:20] It's all through the kitchen.

[36:21] Sure.

[36:22] Yeah.

[36:23] It's doable.

[36:23] And I was like, great, but also run or something.

[36:27] Do something.

[36:28] Yeah.

[36:28] Well, do people...

[36:30] Well, I can see both...

[36:32] I can see arguments for both sides.

[36:34] Because like someone who wants to go through a giant weight loss journey.

[36:37] I can see it as...

[36:40] It being too much to do both.

[36:42] And if one's gonna get...

[36:43] In all honesty, if your...

[36:45] Kitchens more results for weight loss.

[36:48] For sure.

[36:48] But exercise...

[36:50] Here's the weird thing.

[36:51] At least for me, when I start eating better, I want to exercise.

[36:55] It makes me...

[36:56] I have the energy to be like, I want to go move around, I want to go lift weights, I want to do something.

[37:00] Oh, yeah.

[37:01] McDonald's, you want to just...

[37:02] Oh, collapse.

[37:03] Do nothing.

[37:04] No, no.

[37:04] No, no, no.

[37:04] I've had plenty of workouts on McDonald's, but it just doesn't feel good.

[37:08] Right.

[37:09] So I get that point, but it's like the people who are like, oh yeah, I don't exercise at all.

[37:15] Like, to me, I go, you're living a deficient life.

[37:18] You don't know what it feels like to like...

[37:20] If you've ever been in good cardio shape, your life is on a...

[37:23] It feels amazing.

[37:25] Yeah, dude.

[37:25] And so for someone...

[37:26] For someone to be like, I don't do that ever.

[37:30] I just assume you're working at like 50% capacity of like what you could be.

[37:35] And also I don't want you to be a project for me.

[37:37] Right.

[37:38] Like, I don't...

[37:39] Honestly, I would rather...

[37:41] Even if they looked fine, I would rather like have someone who looked worse, but says they exercise regularly.

[37:47] Yeah.

[37:47] Knowing the habits are there.

[37:49] Yes.

[37:49] So if you say I don't do it at all, odds are you will never do it.

[37:53] Yeah.

[37:53] It takes a lot to overall build a habit, especially like, I don't know, at age 25 plus, maybe 30 plus.

[38:01] It's hard to undo that.

[38:02] I think you're totally right.

[38:03] So I think we're green here on most things.

[38:07] It would be crazy just doing experiments.

[38:09] It's not exercise for like a year.

[38:10] It's like it literally exists on a couch.

[38:11] I think people have done that.

[38:12] Like the...

[38:13] Super size me, documentary.

[38:15] Oh yeah.

[38:16] Or like...

[38:17] It's more extreme version of it.

[38:18] Like someone...

[38:18] I guess you do get to a fatness where like you can't move.

[38:21] Like the my 600 pound life people like.

[38:23] They literally just exist on a bed.

[38:26] But I think at that...

[38:28] It's tough.

[38:29] It's tough.

[38:29] I think at that point though too, is that like, you feeling unhealthy from not moving, doesn't even come close to like the unhealthy feeling from being 600 pounds.

[38:38] Like you have no clue.

[38:40] Oh yeah.

[38:40] Like if you got up and walked, you probably feel actually worse if you were 600 pounds.

[38:44] Right.

[38:45] So...

[38:45] The deeper you get into that, the harder it is.

[38:47] Yeah.

[38:48] It's get out.

[38:48] Absolutely.

[38:49] Alright.

[38:51] On to the next thing.

[38:54] Does anyone track professional women's sports period cycles for bedding purposes?

[39:01] There's one more interesting thoughts that I've heard.

[39:04] Not a sports-bedding man.

[39:05] And I don't watch a lot of sports, but I...

[39:08] I don't even know if I coined this thought, but I might have heard it somewhere.

[39:10] And I was like...

[39:12] That's got to affect people's game.

[39:13] My first question is, does anyone bed on women's sports?

[39:17] Oh dude, there's got to be.

[39:19] There's got to be.

[39:20] Especially now with...

[39:21] With like draft cams and all that shit.

[39:22] There's no way that some gambling addict isn't like...

[39:24] And the WNBA just got super popular in the last year.

[39:27] That's super popular.

[39:29] Compared to how it works.

[39:31] More popular than it was.

[39:32] It was not existent.

[39:33] Gotcha.

[39:35] So yeah, I think so.

[39:36] Because there's people who are bedding on high school baseball in places, in other countries.

[39:45] So I think that people are definitely bedding on women's sports.

[39:48] Yeah.

[39:48] So back to the main question though, I believe having dated women and having grown up with women...

[39:59] It seems like the period affects them in a negative way most of the times.

[40:03] Very in degrees of this.

[40:05] Where some are like...

[40:06] They can't get off the couch.

[40:07] And then some are like...

[40:09] Yeah, I just have like a headache today.

[40:11] So I got to imagine that...

[40:13] That's the impact performance in sports.

[40:14] Yes.

[40:17] I'm going to start asking people that.

[40:19] Dude, imagine if we just like figured that out and then we just made millions of dollars off of women's sports.

[40:25] How do you track their cycle so?

[40:28] That's the information you ask true.

[40:31] We got to go to the front lines and start asking.

[40:33] Trapking has to be working on that.

[40:35] And they just like...

[40:36] I bet Vegas knows.

[40:37] Dude, Vegas knows everything.

[40:39] True.

[40:40] I wonder...

[40:41] I feel like you could figure it out somehow without actually asking them.

[40:47] You might even look at like...

[40:49] You could find dips and performance.

[40:51] Exactly, too.

[40:52] They're just like tracking...

[40:53] If there's any consistency in dips, you'd be like...

[40:56] This could be it.

[40:57] That'd be...

[40:58] I think purely off that data would be extremely hard.

[41:01] True.

[41:02] True.

[41:03] Well, it's a good seed that's planted.

[41:05] You're on to something.

[41:06] Yeah, I hope I can make a company out of it.

[41:09] I mean, dude, here's the more fucked up thing, too, is that...

[41:12] The last girl I was like...

[41:13] Hoking up with...

[41:15] She had an aura ring to like track her...

[41:19] Her ovulation cycle.

[41:20] Yeah, they have apps now.

[41:21] Yeah, and like...

[41:22] So all of that data is going somewhere.

[41:24] Someone has all that data.

[41:25] I don't know if it's interesting.

[41:26] Yeah, apparently because I didn't know...

[41:27] I thought the aura ring was truly just a sleep thing.

[41:30] And...

[41:30] Or maybe...

[41:31] I thought that's what it was for.

[41:32] And apparently a lot of women are doing that.

[41:35] Getting this aura ring thing to track their data.

[41:36] So it's just in...

[41:37] It's in a database somewhere.

[41:39] A ton of it.

[41:39] Yeah.

[41:40] So if anyone leaks that,

[41:43] might have a new world of sports betting.

[41:45] That'd be crazy to be in the world of information harvesting.

[41:49] I kind of want to know what that looks like.

[41:51] When I log into some website,

[41:55] and my data goes into the ether,

[41:57] who looks at it in process,

[41:59] and what do they do with it?

[42:01] I want to be on that side rather than this side.

[42:04] That's what art my job is.

[42:06] I mean, we do that with just medical data.

[42:08] I think we're going to get more trillions of money.

[42:10] But that's like voluntarily given, right?

[42:12] True, true, true.

[42:13] You can already...

[42:14] The website one is due.

[42:15] But it's not...

[42:16] Right, it's a little sketchy.

[42:17] There's a lot less understanding of what's actually being given away.

[42:20] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[42:21] I'm just playing devil's advocate to be an asshole.

[42:23] Thank you.

[42:25] All right, I'm done.

[42:27] Call it.

[42:30] So yeah.

[42:31] Well, we'll see if that ever plays out.

[42:35] I wrote something down here after watching a movie,

[42:37] and then it got late.

[42:38] I wrote it.

[42:39] Saw something in a movie,

[42:40] and I was like,

[42:41] that's ridiculous.

[42:42] Wrote it down.

[42:43] The movie went like maybe an hour longer,

[42:45] and they explained why it was ridiculous,

[42:47] and it was planned,

[42:47] and I was like,

[42:48] oh, I feel like it dumped me.

[42:49] They caught you.

[42:51] Yeah, so what was it?

[42:52] There's this...

[42:53] You remember this movie called Platform?

[42:54] It's on Netflix like this, like...

[42:56] I thought it was a cool concept,

[42:57] and it's a Spanish movie.

[42:59] It's a horror movie.

[43:00] There's this giant...

[43:03] a building that's like,

[43:04] 450 floors tall, right?

[43:07] And...

[43:08] Each level, you have pairs of people.

[43:10] And this platform starts at the top,

[43:12] and before you enter this thing,

[43:16] they'd never really explain the reason why people are said here,

[43:18] but they find out what their favorite food is.

[43:20] And on this platform, at the very top,

[43:23] it has everyone's favorite food

[43:24] that are of the, what, 900 contestants,

[43:27] because it's pairs of two.

[43:28] So the platform goes down, it has all the food,

[43:31] and the thing is,

[43:33] can the people cooperate

[43:34] in only eating their food

[43:35] so that the people at the bottom get their food?

[43:37] And then, after the platform reaches all the way down,

[43:41] the night they sleep, they get switched.

[43:43] So then the ranking of the people switched.

[43:45] So some people from the bottom get the top,

[43:46] and it's like...

[43:47] Okay.

[43:48] The whole concept is,

[43:50] do people tend to go into chaos and eat everyone's food?

[43:53] Once they're jaded, like, the people at the bottom,

[43:55] if they don't get their food,

[43:55] and they get switched to the top,

[43:56] do they start eating everyone else's food?

[43:58] And then, like, letting that system go.

[43:59] Is there enough for each floor

[44:02] to eat only their food to be sustained?

[44:04] Yes, it's okay.

[44:05] So if everyone only ate their food,

[44:07] it would be okay.

[44:08] Okay.

[44:09] And so,

[44:11] this is the second edition of this movie.

[44:13] And there was...

[44:14] The main girl she's paired with this guy

[44:15] was like this big, brutish Russian dude.

[44:19] And he was a mathematician.

[44:23] And they keep like alluding to his past.

[44:24] And he burnt down his house and killed all of his family

[44:26] and stuff like this.

[44:29] And he...

[44:30] Eventually, she's like,

[44:31] why did you do that?

[44:32] And he said...

[44:34] He said, because he was a mathematician.

[44:36] And because imaginary numbers and mathematics don't exist.

[44:41] And like, well, yeah,

[44:42] but they serve a part like...

[44:44] So that made him go crazy.

[44:45] And he made him go crazy and kill his family.

[44:47] Okay. And I was like...

[44:48] When you wrote this on the sheet, I read this.

[44:50] I thought it was a real story.

[44:52] I was like, that's insane.

[44:54] Yeah.

[44:55] That'd be crazy.

[44:56] That's why I wrote it down.

[44:57] You know the movie kind of...

[44:58] The way it read on the sheet, too,

[45:00] it started out like somewhat...

[45:02] Yeah, it's like, I implac-

[45:02] Like, two, quiz-job.

[45:04] Yeah, it sounds like...

[45:04] Go homes and burns his parents.

[45:06] Oh my god.

[45:08] Yeah.

[45:09] So...

[45:10] And then later in the movie,

[45:11] I think they explained like...

[45:13] He would just say that to detract from the real story.

[45:15] He was like a good guy or something like that.

[45:16] And I was like, oh, fuck.

[45:18] I'm interested in this movie now.

[45:20] It's pretty good. It's fucked up.

[45:21] Because like, there's some, you know, as you can imagine.

[45:24] It's a horror.

[45:24] I feel like, even without the horror aspect,

[45:27] that could just be an interesting part.

[45:28] And it horror maybe thrillers better.

[45:30] Because it's not like...

[45:31] You're not seeing anything like scary.

[45:32] Sure.

[45:32] It's just like some brutal stuff.

[45:34] And people just like...

[45:36] Yeah.

[45:37] The worst versions of humans,

[45:38] because they get put in like starvation situations.

[45:40] And then having to like...

[45:42] So they are starved.

[45:44] Well, I don't want to give it up.

[45:46] I'll watch it some day.

[45:47] And this is the second one again.

[45:48] First one was pretty good.

[45:49] Second one's also good.

[45:51] All right.

[45:52] Posting on Facebook about hitting every red light unroad.

[45:55] Man.

[45:57] Every once in a while,

[45:58] I'll hop on Facebook.

[45:59] And you got to check in like once a month.

[46:01] Every once in a while.

[46:02] Just to get a feel on like,

[46:04] all the people I used to know,

[46:05] what's going on?

[46:06] Just want to see.

[46:08] And it blows my mind that there's people that are...

[46:12] What I just described.

[46:14] Someone hitting every red light on a road wall driving.

[46:17] Someone's making a post about that.

[46:19] Like that's...

[46:20] They're just throwing out there.

[46:20] Yeah, like that's...

[46:22] Why?

[46:23] Yeah, that's...

[46:24] Yeah.

[46:24] Like...

[46:25] I didn't click on and go see like on their page.

[46:27] But I got to imagine their pages filled with like updates.

[46:31] Like that.

[46:32] Like there...

[46:33] I know, bored, you have to be.

[46:34] Dude.

[46:35] And like...

[46:36] When I look at it...

[46:38] And...

[46:39] I mean, talking to a high end light.

[46:40] I just see like...

[46:42] Them attached to social media in a way...

[46:45] That everyone talks about being addicted to social media.

[46:47] We're like...

[46:48] That for them and the small amount of likes they get on those...

[46:51] Is like the thing that's keeping them up and running.

[46:54] Yeah.

[46:55] Which is a...

[46:56] It's a dark...

[46:58] Thing that...

[46:58] It is, that is...

[46:59] Yeah, you made it really sad.

[47:01] Yeah, it is sad.

[47:02] It is very sad.

[47:04] But I mean, initial New York reaction when I see it was like,

[47:06] Oh my God.

[47:07] Like you fucking...

[47:08] Really?

[47:09] You attention seeking pieces shit.

[47:11] Dude, any time I think that about someone for whatever reason.

[47:14] Yeah.

[47:15] If you dig deeper, it's like...

[47:16] It's immediately sad.

[47:17] Yeah.

[47:17] I just feel bad for you.

[47:19] Yeah.

[47:20] So...

[47:20] I know, I saw that and I was just...

[47:22] Like, I don't know, man.

[47:24] I just don't use a lot of the social media stuff now.

[47:26] And I see someone dedicating time to making posts like that.

[47:29] Even when they're good posts, I'm still like...

[47:31] Yeah, you post on social media.

[47:32] So like when I see that one, I'm like...

[47:34] Wow.

[47:36] Just throwaways.

[47:37] Or like people posting really personal stuff of like...

[47:40] Yeah, I've been going through a divorce with this.

[47:42] My husband, my kid's not like...

[47:44] And also not like...

[47:45] Not really an update more to just say like...

[47:49] This is just, I guess it is technically an update.

[47:51] You're just saying your feelings to the world.

[47:53] Like there's no purpose to it.

[47:55] It's just like just vomiting like...

[47:57] Whatever's going on.

[47:59] Did you ever use to post?

[48:00] Yeah, when I was like...

[48:02] I don't know.

[48:03] Did you have Twitter?

[48:05] Twitter very briefly.

[48:06] I'll be like an avar post on Twitter.

[48:07] But like Facebook, you can find some nasty stuff from back in the day.

[48:12] What?

[48:13] Still there?

[48:14] Can I be fine?

[48:15] Dude, every once in a while Facebook goes,

[48:16] You remember this from 2012?

[48:17] I was like...

[48:18] Dude, there is...

[48:19] Might bleed this out.

[48:21] There is a...

[48:22] My sister sent me this because...

[48:24] My sister's five years younger than me.

[48:26] And you know, I had a lot of close friends growing up that would come over all the time.

[48:30] And my friend posted a picture of us at like a party.

[48:33] And my sister, the only comment is Jake you fucking fuck.

[48:37] Oh my god.

[48:39] Open on Facebook.

[48:40] Remember this from 2012, you literally...

[48:43] It's like, oh my god.

[48:45] It's almost good they do that because a few...

[48:48] Well dude, did you delete the posts?

[48:51] I tried to go, I don't know how to find them.

[48:53] I tried to like dig through it.

[48:54] They show it to you behind glass.

[48:56] You can't touch it but you're here.

[48:58] I swear to god.

[48:59] Because I've had that come up not specifically the F word.

[49:02] But I've had other ones come up where like...

[49:04] I've literally like openly posted me like, this shit's gay as fuck.

[49:07] Like I've had posts like that from when I was like 14 or 15.

[49:12] And I go try to find it.

[49:13] I have no...

[49:14] I'm a computer person.

[49:15] I have no idea how to find my old page.

[49:18] Dude, it's almost like we have dirt on you.

[49:21] We're gonna keep it.

[49:23] It's fucking terrifying.

[49:25] But yeah.

[49:27] I'll begin on this topic.

[49:29] Oh, posting on Facebook.

[49:29] Dude, it is weird.

[49:30] I, at one point, I deleted my Twitter account.

[49:34] But like I hadn't posted in forever and I looked back to like things I would post in high school.

[49:38] It's like, why am I...

[49:40] I would just like...

[49:40] I would be feeling a certain way and just post about it.

[49:43] Yes.

[49:44] And like...

[49:45] I give myself a pass because it was just happening, no one understood it.

[49:49] Yeah.

[49:49] But it's kind of ridiculous.

[49:52] Like why are you posting your feelings?

[49:54] Dude.

[49:55] This is like...

[49:55] Unless it's like an...

[49:56] I get like a milestone and achieve it.

[49:59] Yeah.

[49:59] But I know what you're talking about.

[50:01] Because what you're talking about is exactly what I'm seeing from like 30-year-old women

[50:04] that I just...

[50:05] The topic that I just brought up is from people still doing that at this age.

[50:09] Yeah.

[50:09] Just stream of consciousness, no purpose, just like dumping out stuff onto a social media platform

[50:15] and being like...

[50:17] That's what it is.

[50:17] Dude, I almost feel like the older generation got sideswiped by that.

[50:22] Like they weren't...

[50:23] Like we were...

[50:24] We also did, but we were young enough to adapt and realize like...

[50:28] We're not going to do this anymore.

[50:29] Yeah.

[50:30] But I feel like older people, they just...

[50:33] They're just as addicted as we are.

[50:35] For sure.

[50:36] And I think they treat it like...

[50:37] To your point, I think it was just a giant misunderstanding of what it is.

[50:40] Because like the old...

[50:40] Our parents' generation seem to use it like a journal.

[50:43] Where they're just like...

[50:45] Dude, dude, dude, dude.

[50:45] And like thinking that it's not just out there.

[50:49] That it's...

[50:49] There's some privacy to it, which they're right, but it's just easy for it to get out

[50:54] if they put something kind of crazy.

[50:58] Yeah.

[50:59] Yeah.

[51:01] So anyway...

[51:02] Don't express your feelings as what we're trying to say.

[51:04] On social media.

[51:06] Yeah.

[51:06] Right.

[51:07] Yeah.

[51:09] In general, yes.

[51:11] Express your feelings with man.

[51:12] The internet's not a place to put your feelings.

[51:15] I just don't think it is.

[51:16] Right.

[51:16] I think it's going to hurt you more than help you in most cases.

[51:20] It's sad that for those people,

[51:21] it's probably the only avenue.

[51:23] Yeah, man.

[51:24] Or at least the only avenue they choose.

[51:27] Yeah.

[51:28] Because...

[51:30] Yeah.

[51:31] It's probably as with a lot of these situations where it's a sadder case,

[51:35] it's complex as fuck.

[51:36] Sure.

[51:37] Like there's not...

[51:38] They're probably in a situation where this is the only outlet for it or who fucking knows.

[51:41] But it's way easier for us to judge and make fun of it.

[51:45] Which I'm for.

[51:46] That's why I'm doing it actively.

[51:48] Makes for good content.

[51:51] Alright.

[51:52] Do pets view themselves as babies?

[51:55] Because...

[51:55] Think about this.

[51:57] So you get a dog, right?

[51:59] And it's a puppy.

[52:01] When it grows up to full size, regardless of the dog,

[52:03] I guess you make the arm like a great dang could be human size.

[52:05] But like a lab or something like that.

[52:08] It's never going to be as big as you.

[52:11] It will stay lower the ground.

[52:13] A tech typically you'll be bigger than your dog when it's full age.

[52:16] Yeah.

[52:17] But if it grew up in a...

[52:20] With just like other dogs,

[52:21] it eventually reaches the size of like its mother or father, right?

[52:25] Around the same size.

[52:26] Sure.

[52:26] So do they just see us as like,

[52:28] they're always puppies?

[52:30] Because we're always bigger.

[52:32] Like they'll grow.

[52:33] But like they won't even come close.

[52:36] They're masters always.

[52:37] Yeah.

[52:38] It's like in their head that's just like this...

[52:40] Like almost like a god thing.

[52:42] That's just like it forever remains.

[52:43] They're providers.

[52:44] Yeah, dude.

[52:45] We're at a certain point if they're like,

[52:47] dog and its dog mom.

[52:49] It's like, oh hey, what's up mom?

[52:50] Like we are with our parents.

[52:51] It's like eventually you get taller them or as tall as them you're like,

[52:53] oh this is my adult, but I am physically bigger or equal.

[52:58] I feel like if you were a dog,

[53:00] you could also be like,

[53:00] this is my servant.

[53:02] It just does everything for them.

[53:05] True.

[53:08] I wonder though,

[53:09] because like they're so...

[53:11] Because take the human out of the equation,

[53:12] they have to go like find their food, right?

[53:13] Sure.

[53:15] I wonder, like,

[53:16] they got to see that more as like a provider thing than a servant.

[53:19] It seems like it requires some understanding of like,

[53:27] what's the word for it?

[53:28] Like how we would develop a caste system is like highly political.

[53:32] Like it's very conscious in a way of like being evil.

[53:36] And for a dog to like conceptualize,

[53:39] like this is lower than me.

[53:40] Do you think they have that awareness?

[53:42] No.

[53:43] One way or the other.

[53:45] Maybe the...

[53:46] No, I don't know.

[53:48] Because I feel like it's just like,

[53:50] I need my needs provided for.

[53:52] And this thing does it.

[53:53] This is how it happens.

[53:54] I'm going to live this way.

[53:56] And I think there's a lot of things attached to that,

[53:57] but I don't know if it necessarily understands like the meaning of that relationship.

[54:03] Certainly not the way we do.

[54:05] No, no.

[54:06] Like I think they,

[54:07] I think they develop a sense of love and care.

[54:10] And the thing that's providing.

[54:12] But I don't know if they're like,

[54:14] this is the ultimate provider.

[54:16] This thing is like keeps my life going.

[54:19] They effectively always are children to us.

[54:22] Yeah.

[54:23] They're at that level.

[54:25] So like does a kid know it's a kid?

[54:28] Or does a kid just...

[54:30] A human?

[54:32] Yeah.

[54:32] Yeah.

[54:33] You can...

[54:34] I would...

[54:35] It does, but I don't think it fully conceptualizes like how much their parents do for it.

[54:40] For them?

[54:41] Oh, yeah.

[54:42] Absolutely.

[54:43] But I think they understand that they are far away from an adult in terms of...

[54:48] They might not have it on paper of all the things that a parent does,

[54:51] but they know that I am very separate from adult.

[54:54] Yes.

[54:55] So I would imagine it's similar for a dog, whatever realization they have.

[55:00] It's like these are my parents.

[55:01] They provide for me.

[55:03] Without the like I'm going to grow up someday.

[55:05] It's just that's what they are.

[55:06] Yeah.

[55:07] You can make the argument that it's like a dog is statically...

[55:11] Like it's just a dog.

[55:12] Yeah.

[55:12] Like if you told a kid, if you never told a kid it would grow up for a certain period of time,

[55:16] it would just think this is just life.

[55:18] This is always going to be this way.

[55:20] Yes.

[55:20] And so my question is, does that idea change when it's only raised with other dogs?

[55:26] And it goes...

[55:27] It sees the only thing in that...

[55:29] Because there's no ultimate provider.

[55:31] No humans.

[55:32] No humans.

[55:33] There's only you growing up as a puppy.

[55:35] It should be like wolves.

[55:36] Yes.

[55:37] And so you're a pup, you grow up, you see the thing that gave birth to you, get old and die.

[55:41] Does that change your relationship with the understanding of like you being a forever child?

[55:48] Because in that world you are not a forever child.

[55:50] And you have to grow up someday.

[55:52] Exactly, dude.

[55:53] And humans are enemies to you if you're a wild.

[55:57] Yeah.

[55:57] Or prey.

[55:59] Or prey.

[55:59] Yeah.

[55:59] They can be a bunch of things in that context.

[56:02] So that's why I'm like, does the psychological world of a dog change if it's like...

[56:07] If you have forever provider, does it go, oh I'm always a kid.

[56:10] If you are not, always provider.

[56:12] I am adult dog.

[56:14] I am wolf.

[56:15] Yeah.

[56:15] I don't know.

[56:16] I think it's similar to like a spoiled rich kid versus like...

[56:20] That's good.

[56:21] A poor kid who grew up.

[56:22] Yeah.

[56:23] Have no like take care of himself.

[56:24] There's some character in those dogs.

[56:27] Absolutely.

[56:28] He's always pulled themselves up by their bootstraps.

[56:30] That's what they did.

[56:31] Like rich people who have always been rich just are disconnected from the struggles of real people.

[56:38] That's not real.

[56:39] That's a rough real holy fuck dude.

[56:41] It all comes out of not rich people.

[56:45] Yeah.

[56:46] I guess the big question is, do dogs have different...

[56:53] Like does their psychology change in the situation?

[56:55] I don't know if we're ever gonna know that.

[56:57] But in my head I go, if you're always providing for it, never has to learn how to do any.

[57:03] It might just stay in a state of like...

[57:05] I'm a puppy.

[57:06] Yeah.

[57:07] I mean we talked about a while ago.

[57:09] I think maybe the first episode about pigs turning feral when they get released.

[57:14] Oh.

[57:15] Maybe they like all these instincts that were sort of suppressed just come out and they're just wild.

[57:20] Yeah.

[57:20] I feel like it's just an adaptive thing.

[57:22] Like if all my needs are met, why would I grow up?

[57:25] That's true.

[57:25] That's a deep thought.

[57:27] I mean human level.

[57:28] Yeah and it's interesting that like I think a lot of people think of instincts and adaptive

[57:33] as a physical thing in terms of like the way they represent themselves.

[57:37] But the impact that it has psychologically...

[57:41] Yeah.

[57:41] ...could be very real.

[57:42] Like a dog could be...

[57:43] A dog's thought process could be very different from when it's out in the wild and when it's actually in a home.

[57:49] Absolutely.

[57:49] ...in a family for a few meals a day.

[57:51] But I feel like I experienced this like my parents...

[57:55] Maybe this says I was spoiled but like my parents most often did my laundry when I was growing up.

[58:00] Sure.

[58:01] ...to an extent and then like later in life when I just had to do my own laundry and that wasn't built in.

[58:07] And I was like fuck.

[58:08] Yeah.

[58:09] I need to change.

[58:10] Well dude, it's crazy too because when you do things that...

[58:14] When you're learning anything, whether it be laundry or quantum physics,

[58:17] yeah.

[58:18] It adds something to you.

[58:20] At every level, whatever you're...

[58:22] To just do something that typically you're having done for yourself or you couldn't do...

[58:28] I don't want to say it adds character because doing laundry...

[58:31] Yeah, take out a responsibility.

[58:33] It does.

[58:34] Like it gives you...

[58:37] Pride's maybe the wrong word but it gives you confidence.

[58:40] And it's weird because almost at every level if you're trying to like...

[58:45] Build someone's confidence up and say they're bad at dating and they don't.

[58:50] It's mostly a confidence thing.

[58:51] And like they don't feel good about themselves enough to go do the thing.

[58:55] And doing things not related to dating that you're...

[58:59] You can accomplish.

[59:01] Right.

[59:01] It really translates.

[59:03] It goes to all areas building confidence.

[59:05] Yeah.

[59:05] No matter what you're...

[59:06] You could be good at.

[59:07] Yeah.

[59:08] I was listening to a man Chainsaker podcast, Chains Guilds' thing.

[59:12] And Chains been gone for walks.

[59:13] They're filming the second season of Tires.

[59:14] So it's just been Matt and the Cusker.

[59:16] And fuck, I forgot his name.

[59:18] But he's one of the jack guys, guys who love us guys suffer with addiction at one point.

[59:22] Like heavy addiction.

[59:23] And fuck, what's his name?

[59:25] But this guy is turned his life around.

[59:26] He's like...

[59:27] He's like...

[59:27] No, it's...

[59:29] He was more famous than Viva LaBam and Bams Groups.

[59:32] Oh, we're like an hour.

[59:33] I'll cap it with this.

[59:36] But he's turned it all around after years of heroin addiction.

[59:38] Health addiction, blah, blah, blah.

[59:40] And he said the biggest through line for like...

[59:43] Getting him to like solve his own problems was trying to help one person.

[59:49] You just...

[59:50] Whatever shape that is.

[59:51] And we're not talking like...

[59:53] You know, helps hold a door open for like...

[59:55] Actually, find some avenue to which you can help one person.

[59:58] Whether it be through education, being a friend, something like...

[60:03] Start there and it makes you want to like...

[60:07] Be alive, so to speak.

[60:09] His condition was extreme.

[60:11] But it's like, if you're ever looking for a purpose, start there.

[60:15] Help a person, it will guide you to a place where you will find that purpose.

[60:20] Dude, I've heard the take when...

[60:22] Like if...

[60:23] A lot of people I think go through this process.

[60:25] Like if you have a friend that's depressed.

[60:27] Yeah.

[60:28] Or just going through some shit.

[60:30] And you have your own problems.

[60:32] Yeah.

[60:33] A lot of people will have the thought like, oh, I don't want to dump more on their plates.

[60:36] Yeah.

[60:36] But I think the opposite is actually true.

[60:39] Giving someone an opportunity to help you can actually help that.

[60:42] Like, it feels good to like...

[60:45] Maybe ignore your problems for a second and just talk about someone else and help them work through something.

[60:49] I think that's kind of similar to what...

[60:51] Did I never even thought about that?

[60:52] Because I've definitely been the person...

[60:54] If I have a person trouble that I'm trying to help, I would never ever tell them I should.

[60:59] But that's a great point because...

[61:00] I think to a degree, it's like if you're always dumping on them.

[61:03] Totally.

[61:03] But what you're saying is going with what I'm saying.

[61:06] Like in them helping me, even if they're struggling to some degree, it could give them some of their life back.

[61:11] Yeah.

[61:12] Some kind of form.

[61:13] It's also interesting that he would say to find any purpose is just helping someone else.

[61:18] That's beautiful.

[61:20] Yeah, dude.

[61:20] And he's just talking from like...

[61:23] He did that and it is the thing that made it all better.

[61:26] It's starting to lean towards life of like help someone.

[61:30] You'll find something through that.

[61:31] Yeah.

[61:31] I feel like a lot of sadness and depression comes from just feeling worthless.

[61:37] Feeling like you serve no purpose.

[61:40] Totally.

[61:41] And a lot of people are feeling that.

[61:42] And imagine you get a system where a lot of people are just helping one person.

[61:46] And then it's just like everyone's helping everybody.

[61:48] Spread the love.

[61:49] Yeah, brother.

[61:50] It's just beautiful.

[61:51] I think it's a good point to end on spread the love.

[61:54] Spread a while.

[61:55] Alright, we'll see you next week people.

[61:57] Bye-bye.