The hosts kick off with a chilling story about Cold War nukes and how close the US came to disaster. Then they share a painfully relatable tale about being bullied by kids while just trying to play pickleball. They dive into the cultural quirks of Appalachian towns where people might not even know what the Holocaust is. Finally, they get delightfully absurd imagining domestication and the idea of living with a giant penguin as a pet.
Notable quote: The pet that hugs you back, an emperor penguin.
Notable quote: If someone starts shooting nukes, we just launch all of them and everyone's dead.
Notable quote: Kids on bikes just circling the pickleball court yelling insults for 30 minutes.
"If anyone comes up to you and just says you suck for 30 minutes, you start to believe it."00:16:21
"A dropped wrench almost nuked half the country and no one even knew about it."00:06:20
"It's the most inclusive execution — everyone gets to throw a rock."00:20:12
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I have to say, I think you have a unique opening every time.
I try to change it up.
Yeah.
There's the what's up.
There's a yelling yes.
But I truly don't know what's coming next.
All right.
I'll make it weird and weirder every episode.
Okay.
You're going to have to stick to that bit for the attorney of this podcast.
It's going to become so extravagant that most of the podcast is just your opening.
I should say hello in whatever language.
the United Arab Emirates speaks.
We slowly become like a Saudi-backed podcast.
I mean, I saw that Tim Dillon's getting a lot of shit for him taking, because he's going to do a show in Saudi Arabia.
A lot of people, similar to like the golf stuff that was going on for a while we're like,
oh, they're taking money from Saudis.
Now all these comedians are, Tim Dillon said he's going to pay $397,000 for one show in Saudi Arabia.
Wait, he moved his show?
No, no, no, no, no.
He's going to do one comedy show for all of.
Almost half a million dollars in Saudi Arabia.
That's awesome.
Yeah, it's like, dude, anyone would fucking do that.
Yeah, take the money.
Yeah.
No one blames you.
I hear you got some fucking updates.
Yes, yes, okay.
Last episode we posted, we talked about the red smoke in New York.
Yes, during the wildfire.
The supposed wildfire.
It's very enjoyable to watch you kind of freak out about that.
You're like, what is this?
Yeah, I mean, it was concerning.
And I had never thought about it, but you bring up a good point.
What the fuck?
Why was the smoke red?
Because the fire wasn't even close.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What you got on.
Okay, apparently the smoke from the wildfire
scatters different wavelengths of light differently.
Oh.
Which I don't totally know what that means.
Okay.
But that's what leads to the red haze.
It's like a filter, basically.
Okay.
Of the sun.
So is it suggesting that, like, the sun's rays are getting filtered in a weird way?
Basically.
Because of the smoke and it's making that red.
Okay.
That.
I could...
Which I buy that, but I also don't get why we didn't see it.
Yeah, because we have sun here.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It was, it was kind of, it wasn't red, but it was kind of orangey, like yellowish maybe at times here.
It was very orange.
Yeah.
I remember they're being color, but not, it wasn't like the images I saw from fucking New York or whatever the hell, where that was like straight up red.
Yeah.
So, so maybe it is just that.
We just got less sun.
or more sun or the angle of that shit.
Yeah.
And it's not some government chemical conspiracy where they're like bombing us with shit and then covering
up wildfire smoke.
I read about that online, so maybe the government got to that too and fed that source to me.
They do have a lot of resources at their fingertips.
And they control most of the media, so.
No.
Yeah.
Well, that's fun.
I guess we'll never know.
Until it happens again.
Nice.
Anything else on that?
Nope, nope.
Okay.
That was a quick one.
Let's talk nukes.
Just placating your fears.
Hell yeah.
I love that.
Yeah, let's talk about nukes.
All right.
I think also, I think the last time we're, well, I don't want to give away our release schedule now that we're not chronological.
But we talked about nukes on a different episode that will come out at a different time.
Probably our next episode.
But talk about nukes.
For context on that, the, it is currently, what is it, September 6th?
We released an episode.
earlier this week when we were saying, happy New Year, how were the holidays?
Oh, my God.
So, we're all over the place.
Yeah.
We got a lot in the hopper that we got a release, but we're getting better at it.
So hang tight, folks.
We got more coming.
Anyway, last time I recorded, we were talking about nukes.
And I think we almost fought over this.
Yeah, I mean, well, hold on, you opened up with a nuke could take out of the entire south.
And I said, I don't think that's true.
And, but then, a bit of an exaggeration.
But then also, to your credit, I was like, I don't know, there's been 80, how many years since
Hiroshima and Nakasaki, fucking 80-ish?
Who knows how strong nukes are?
I had no, so went a little, fucking research hole and found that the nukes used in Hiroshima
and Nagasaki were like, I think 10 kilatons worth, like, impact of TNTs.
This is the metric they use for measuring this.
It's all, it's all based on TNT.
Yeah.
Yeah, like the explosive impact of that.
So 10 kilotons worth was the bombs in 1940, whatever.
And nowadays, we have bombs that are like, they said up to a megatone, which is a thousand
fucking kilotons.
No, it's more than a megaton, but yeah, it's in megatons.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Wait, what?
The information I found said, like, that is the biggest one and there's not anything
really beyond, like, a megaton that we're talking.
Brother.
But because, well, hold on.
Because they said that a lot.
lot of the technologies since the big ones that were dropped in 1940s has been more
around like accuracy and like the current ones I think you're right yeah I think the ability to
travel and accuracy because they've realized that more smaller ones are way more effective than
like you depending on one really really big one yes so the stuff I was reading was suggesting
that like the biggest one we have now is up to a megaton so that's probably true so
What do you find now?
But we're, and this all started from a documentary that I watched called Command and Control,
which was about Cold War era nukes back when we had, I mean, we don't know how many nukes we have now,
but presumably that was like the most nukes that existed in the world.
Like everyone was just stockpiling nukes.
It was like 40,000 or something like that per, I think it's like per superpower in terms of Russia and the United States.
So tens of thousands.
So it was stockpiling thousands.
and thousands plus making them as big as fucking possible.
Nice.
And so I made the claim that basically this documentary, you should just watch it if you want the actual
information.
Command and Control.
It's called Command and Control.
It's one of my favorite documentaries because it's fascinating.
Okay.
A nuclear facility, a dude literally dropped a wrench, and it bounced, hit the fuel tank,
and the nuclear facility exploded and launched a nuclear warhead over American soil.
Nice.
And there's circuitry in there that obviously determines if it detonates or not.
If that circuitry got damaged in the explosion, which it very well could have, it would have detonated.
Okay.
And I made the claim it would have taken out the whole south.
Half of the country.
Which, that's probably a little much.
But I think it would have been the worst thing that would have happened in this country, like in history.
Absolutely.
So to put this in perspective,
The documentary opens.
They said, this nuke was more powerful than every single bomb dropped in World War II plus both of the nukes combined.
Okay.
So what's that measuring in that in terms of the kill?
Okay.
So to bring this in perspective, and you mention you're like, we test nukes over the desert all the time.
You are right.
Yeah.
But the big ones put them over the ocean.
Yeah.
I've seen, there's videos of those ones.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the biggest one we've ever intentionally.
detonated. The biggest one we've ever detonated, called Castle Bravo. It was designed
to be five megatons. Okay. Which is
fucking huge. Yeah. And when we detonated it over the ocean, it was three times as powerful as we
expected. The yield was 15 megatons.
Holy shit. Expanded like 120 miles. Oh my God. We had to evacuate islands.
of people.
And they were still in the ocean?
It was in the Pacific.
I don't know where.
But there's like remote islands that were like, surely not.
Trust us.
We've done the math.
There's no chance.
And yeah, it was three times as powerful.
So that was spec to be five megatons.
Yeah.
This one that got launched over, the U.S.,
was nine megatons by design.
Holy shit.
So it would have been about double that.
Yeah.
So over U.S.
40 miles of essentially
entirely destroyed.
And like that range, that's not the explosion, but like the nuclear fallout with like
wind blowing and things like that.
Yeah.
It would have been like a fuck tunnel area that would have been either vaporized or like
heavy radiation poisoning.
Yeah.
That's insane.
Because when I went and did my research using the, I guess,
chat chat, GPT,
5 now has the deep thinking stuff in it.
So it goes and, like, digs deep in whatever articles you can find.
But it seemed to suggest that the 10 kiloton ones that we launched in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were like,
they had maybe a mile of destruction of blast that just eliminated anything.
And then like a three to five mile kind of fall out around it.
And so they scaled up and said the ones that the ones that we have today, so not.
relative to the powerful ones up to a megaton that where it seems like no one's really
leaning towards the megaton stuff now, it's just like, like I said, smaller ones that have
precision, that like the ones today would be like three to five miles of pure destruction and
then, and then closer to 10 miles of fallout around.
But again, that's for one, and now we have more smaller ones.
Sure.
All the time.
So that's, yeah, dude, I mean, 240 miles of fallout is, that's, that's all.
Dude, that's like, you would cover, you could cover Milwaukee, Chicago.
This is, so the documentary shows, you take out New York.
If it was detonated in Washington, D.C., it would basically wipe out the whole East Coast.
Yeah.
We almost just fucked up and launched one of those.
Now, granted, it would have been in the South, less populated cities than, like, the East Coast.
Still fucking not.
Would have been crazy.
Yeah.
That's, yeah, it's nuts.
I mean, when we talked about, well, it'll be on that episode, but the whole, like, I think we've opened
up Pandora's Boxing, we can't get away from it now.
Yeah.
I think, yeah, I heard, so in that Scott Horn and Lex Freeman episode, he talks about this,
but he talks about kind of against my theory of where I'm like, we need nukes forever, we have to
keep him.
And he's saying that post-cold war, we
started this, like, decommissioning nuclear warhead things, and we've slowly over time
gotten them lower and lower and lower.
And he's like, we just have to keep going.
Just as long as we're making progress to lower and lower, so that countries are consistently
having lower, then eventually we're down to 10, and then we get them down to five.
And it's like, just keep working at that.
It can't be zero, though, right?
That's the thing.
I don't know.
It's just like...
To your point, I don't know if it can be zero.
I think it could be way less.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
Because I think once you don't have those, you need an actual...
on the boots, military force.
So, but I think we can probably get to a number that's so substantially less that maybe
one day nukes do go away.
But I think as it's, as humanity sits now, it's not possible.
I think they need to, they're a necessary evil that has to exist.
But the way, so that documentary ends with, they're just interviewing nuclear engineers.
Okay.
And they're like, yeah, this incident was crazy.
There's been hundreds of other ones, not, not quite that bad, but other.
They're like, holy shit moments.
And the guy's basically like, nothing has happened because we have great safety in place.
Yeah.
But we've also been super lucky.
He's like, if we keep doing this, something's going to go wrong.
And that's where it ends.
And it's like, oh, shit.
Oh, that's terrifying, dude.
So I think reducing the amount of nukes reduces the chances of that happen.
Yeah.
I mean, we shouldn't, we shouldn't be living in a world of thousands of nukes across the entire,
like, for one country to have anywhere near 100 nukes,
I think is just insane.
It was crazy.
Because it is the power to just...
How are you going to use all those?
Yeah, I mean, the idea is just, if someone starts doing it, then we just launch all of them.
It's so crazy to think that, like, that's just the thing.
Like, a government, if suddenly Russia launched, a nuke...
It's the automatic response.
Yeah, it's just, we just launched tons of nukes.
And then everyone's fucking dead.
Yeah.
It's just such a, I don't know.
Again, I think it's a necessary evil, but...
Yeah, it's not, it's not, it's not, it doesn't make me solid.
sleep better at night, you know, that we have mutually sure destruction, but it's better
than people invading your country, so.
Yeah.
No one else is going to fuck with us.
Yeah, but whatever.
All right.
Anything else on that before I move on?
I don't think so.
Okay.
Bullied by kids while he's playing pickleball.
So, dude.
Get bullied by kids is the worst.
I haven't been in a situation like this since probably, I don't know.
Every once in a while, you come across some kids, they're just being pieces of shit.
But, like, it has to have been at least a decade since, like, I've been somewhere where kids
just starts, like, picking on you.
Yeah.
And so me and my buddy, we're in this pickleball league, and we usually show up an hour early to, like,
warm up and just play because we just chill, play a talk.
And we're just like, we're the only people on this court, or on all the courts.
And these kids come into, they're maybe like between eight to 12, and there's three of them.
And I think they're all siblings.
There's an older boy, a girl probably his age, and then a younger boy, and they're all on bicycles.
And they literally come into the fucking tennis courts, just starts circling the court we're playing on.
And at first it starts off with, that's terrifying.
It was just so like, okay, like, what are we going to do?
They're just fucking kids.
And so they're circling around us, and one of the kids stops his bike, and he's like, can I play?
I was like, no, I mean, we have two pedals, and we get to do this.
this once a week, so no. And he's like, oh, I'm really good. And then, like, his, the kids
that he's with start being like, yeah, he's really good. You should let him play. I'm like,
that's not the point. I just want to play the guy. I don't care if you're good or not. And then he's
like, oh, well, okay. And then the girl's like, you guys fucking suck. Oh, the girls. Sorry,
don't say fucking. She says you suck. She literally was like, you guys suck. And it's just, she's just going
around. That's my first question. Did the girl bully you? Oh, yeah. She was the one leading the bullying.
She was just going, sir, was going, you suck. You're the
the worst. You say it's like, you can't do anything in the situation. So they were just
circling, yelling insults? Yes, around a pickleball court. Wow. Oh, and I'm like... Did it affect your play?
No, well, we're just fucking... Just getting nervous? I mean, yes. But we're, this isn't during the league. This is
just me, my buddy, playing, warming up, not do anything. But, you know, eventually I just start leaning
into her saying we suck. I'm like, yeah, we definitely do. Like, I'm like, we, we suck. And then, but while that's
type and the kid's still, like, trying to play. I'm like, no, man, it's not happening, dude. And
like, part of me just wants to go, like, get the fuck out of here. It's... Dude, dude, that could escalate
so fast. I know, I know. You just got to bite your ton in those situations, but it's just like, dude,
where are your... Like, who's letting you do this? Yeah. Like, yeah. You should have just said,
year 12. That would be your insult back to him. Yeah, which he would, yeah, who knows? But these kids have a
special, like, fuck you kind of essence to them. That's the right age. Like middle school,
you know how to fuck with people. Yeah, yeah. And they're just like, they'll just keep going. And so
eventually you just stop paying attention to it and give in to their insults. And they went away.
But it was just like 30 minutes of these kids being like, like, hey, ha, ha, ha, you suck. And like, dude,
what is this? How'd you feel afterwards? It's just not good. You never feel good after that.
Oh, they got to you. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter the age. If anyone comes up to you and just says
you suck for 30 minutes. You're like I do suck. You start to. You start to. You start to
believe it. Oh, dude. I was, I mean, I was already sold that I suck in general. But it's one of those things where
It doesn't matter who it is, 30 minutes of them. I hope they hear this podcast. Oh, I hope they grow up in there. And then they go on this
apology tour. They're like, yeah, we were just in a wrong place at the wrong time. Just be mean to people.
But, and it all comes from a place that they just want to be included. So I get it. Like, those kids truly,
if I was to be like, yeah, come play with us. None of that would have happened. But like. You think so? I feel like they kind of
wanted to just fuck with you. No, no. I think that kid, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
the older kid genuinely wanted to play. And the result, the rejection resulted in them being mean. That's literally, it would have gone so differently if I would have been like, yeah, come play. But we, again, I don't want to fucking play with these kids. So it's, I'm, I'm not going to like. Kind of crazy as a kid to just ask random adults to play pickleball with them. Yeah. I feel like I wouldn't do that as a kid. No, I wouldn't either, but I've definitely come across a situation where that just happens. Where, where either I'm playing, it's happened a lot in tennis. We're like, when I was growing up, if I'm, I don't know,
a teenager, kids just show up that are like, because every tennis court's in a park, so there's kids that just end up around you that'll be like, can I play? And most of the time, they're nice. They're just like, if I say, no, they go away. But every once in a while, you get one fucker that's like, no, I'm going to make this a problem now that you won't let me play with the stuff that you brought because I want to play right now. I'm like, no, buddy, go fuck yourself. You're not getting any of this. So it's just, it hasn't happened a long time. But it's, uh, it's, you
equally as frustrating. It is not changed in level of...
Yeah, that'd be infuriating. Yeah. Because unlike a person who's an adult, you can't be like, go fuck yourself,
get the fuck off the court. I have to be like, no, sorry, can't do this. So, fun stuff.
I love that you're talking about it. Getting all out there, not holding it in. Yeah, it's unique. It always
makes me go like, who are you, who's fucking raising you? I feel it, I don't know if that's happened to me as an adult.
But I feel like that would happen, like, when I was still kind of a kid, like a young, maybe like 12, 13, and then there's like an even younger kid that's just fucking with you.
Yeah.
That's super annoying.
Yeah.
And then there's the other end of it where I was a younger kid and an older kid show up, and that's, that's even worse.
We're older mean kids.
Oh, yeah, dude.
And then they're just like...
You were never the bully?
No.
I don't, that, I was, if anything, a more like, reserved kid.
If you could believe that growing up.
Yeah, I was just like, it's like, I just like, I just.
want everything to be cool. Let's just fucking play, dude. I don't want to. But there's
been multiple times where, like, one memory sticks out where at my friend's house and we go
to the park across the street from them and these older kids show up and just start throwing
rocks at us at the park. And then it just turns into a rock war and we're getting hit with rocks.
That's like the most classic form of bullying. Yeah, dude. And it's, it's terrible because you're just
hug, literally throwing rocks. Like, not, not pebbles. Like, just throwing rocks to each other.
More my friends got hit in the face and it caught him. It was just like, we got to get out of here.
It was like war at that point in life.
It's like getting stoned.
Literally, yeah.
So, thank God that, dude, thank God we're adults.
All the shit that comes to grow up.
Thank God we don't stone people.
I mean, that too.
Has to be one of the worst ways.
Glad we got rid of that.
That's got to be up there with worse ways to go.
Like hands down.
Just getting bludgeoned to death slowly.
I feel like that would take so long.
Yeah.
Unless you get like in the head and knocked out, though.
But you need a big rock to do that, I feel like.
Yeah, and an accurate shot.
But in those stoning situations, you typically have like a town throwing rocks at you.
So you're, it's a numbers game where you're probably going to hit the head.
What a fucking crazy concept.
Towns would just take people out that way?
Yeah.
It was like, that was a execution style.
And they'd be like, all right, everybody, here's the rocks.
I guess it's like everyone gets to be part of it.
Yeah, yeah.
If someone's that hated.
It's the most inclusive execution.
Yeah, you can make the argument for it.
As opposed to hanging where there's like one guy doing it or like a chopping off of the head, same thing.
But yeah, that's a, uh, they,
still do it in some parts. I believe in the Middle East.
Stone to death. Like, I fully believe
it. Like, dude, there's stories of like
women
in like Afghanistan
or one of these countries getting raped
and then they get stoned to death
because they like betrayed their husband by getting
raped. Yeah. Talk
about hell on Earth. Tough life.
Yeah. That's a tough one.
Yeah. You get raped and they're like, now we're
fucking killing you in the worst
way possible.
Yeah.
Yeah. Nukes seem pretty
Nice.
I'll take nukes.
I would go by nuke.
Yeah.
You have to imagine there's a special place in heaven for the people who get like killed in that way.
Like if there's a place after this, they're like, the force outside's like, we're so sorry.
I'm sorry.
I really didn't intend for that.
That was really fucked up what they did.
That was fucked up, wasn't it?
Wow.
Come here, relax.
Free will, huh?
You think you would just be traumatized in heaven from that?
I feel like if there is that place, it is like a.
It is beyond our conception of like, oh, my, what?
Yeah, they just wipe all that.
Yeah, like, that stuff doesn't exist in that plane.
You think you just forget about it, totally?
I don't know.
Maybe you could just look at it with, like, a clean lens, be like, wow, that was crazy.
Glad I'm here, though.
But it's like even that situation, unless you're living in this world where like, you're no longer human,
you can't look at it objectively.
Like, you're getting raped in stone to death.
I don't think you can look at it and be like, wow.
And that.
And maybe I'm wrong.
Saying only an Owen Wilson, wow.
He's there watching it with you.
You're going, wow.
He's the first guy who greets you and have to him.
He's in the gates.
That was crazy.
So yeah.
Anyway, on to the next thing.
Oh, dude.
Oh, dude.
kind of in the same lane of terrible things.
There was, I was reading about torture tactics during, like, the medieval times.
And I think maybe, maybe it was the terrorist stuff.
Is this like your horror love going for that?
Yeah.
I think it was, it might have been mixed with the Middle East War stuff and all that, but like torture
tactics for people where I didn't realize that when you take away certain senses, it amplifies
others, which I think that's understandable considering, like, people who are deaf can, or who are blind
can hear better and vice.
Yeah, I've always heard that.
I've never thought about it in a torture.
Yeah, so, like, people, they'll, like, blind you and fucking, like, stuff your ears.
And so, like, you can't see or hear anything.
To the pain is...
Yeah, so the pain is, like, times a thousand.
You can't anticipate it.
Oh, dude, talk about...
Just imagining yourself in that situation of you don't know when the pain's coming at the degree
is coming, and it has to be so nuts.
Yeah, I feel like you would just disassociate at a certain point.
Yeah, I always...
I just wonder how much shock can get you out of those situations.
Because, you know, like, people will, like, they'll go into shock and say they don't, they didn't feel
anything in the moment, whether it be adrenaline or whatever is causing the shock.
But I never really understood what shock is other than, like, your body just, like, shuts off
a part of you.
Yeah.
Yeah, one of my buddies was describing some crazy injuries he's had, and, like, every time he's just
been super calm.
Yeah.
Like, his arm literally, like, snapped in half.
Okay.
From playing handball, which is the crazy.
craziest. He was throwing in his arm, snapped.
What the fuck?
Yeah.
Is he, how old is he, like, 65?
No, no, he's, like, your age.
How is it from throwing a ball?
Yeah.
What the hell?
It's crazy.
Does the guy got a cannon?
He must have.
Yeah, I mean, that's nuts.
But anyway, yeah.
And then, like, some other crazy one he described.
And he said every time he's just been like, yeah, okay, my arm's
fucked up.
And, like, didn't really feel the pain until, like, later.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's, yeah, the body's amazing in that way.
Because it's crazy to have, like...
It's a nice feature. Just check out when something really bad happens.
Isn't that so crazy that there's like this, you know, it's well documented, like the subconscious level,
like this autonomous system that like is taking care of you, regardless of your conscious will?
Yeah.
Like, you get really hurt.
It's like, okay, we're going to shut this off so you can go help yourself.
Otherwise, this is going to be real bad in the moment.
Yeah.
It's so nuts that there's this system that's just like working, like, separate from us almost.
Yeah.
And you know what else is really common is you focus on just the weirdest things.
Oh, in situations like that?
Yeah, like if you just got hit by a car and you're in critical condition, you might be like, oh, my God, my jacket's messed up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, you'll be saying that to your friends.
Yeah, it's fucking...
Yeah, it's so weird.
I don't think I've ever been in a situation like true shock.
No, yeah.
I'm like, yeah, no, definitely not.
Oh.
I was like Trump when he's like, let me give my shoes.
It's like...
After he got shot, everyone's like, what the fuck was he talking about his shoes?
Apparently, that's super common.
Yeah, did anyone ever do any more digging to that whole thing?
He's still skeptical?
Just all seems so weird.
Still a little weird.
But we don't have, I feel like we've talked about before.
We don't have to dig into that.
The only thing we truly know about love is that it's blind.
The show, love is blind?
Yeah, it's the only thing we know.
Because that works out so well.
Yeah.
I think the point is that like, I don't know if that actually makes sense.
Is it just from you?
Yeah, I don't know.
Is this one of your fucking thoughts?
Yes, maybe, dude.
I have no idea.
Well, no, let's stick on that.
I'm trying to think of what that would mean if the only thing we know about love is that's blank.
I guess like...
The only thing we know.
I think the point of what I wrote that down for is that like we can't conceptualize love in a scientific term.
Like the only attribute of love is that like,
it happens and it's complex, but we know that it can happen to a variety of things,
meaning the blind is more of a met, not like physically blind, obviously, but that like you can
love someone who's been terrible to you, that kind of thing.
Hmm.
And it's like it, or you love someone that to somebody else, it would make no sense why you love that
person.
Yeah, I think it's a, it's also like an ill-defined term.
Yeah.
Because like loving someone who.
abused you, I feel like, is a different type of thing than just...
Yeah, you could have made the argument that's not a healthy relationship.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I guess that's part of it.
It's just so ambit.
It's filled with ambiguity to the point of like, what is the definition of love?
Is there real love?
Is it all just...
Yeah.
That's a deep topic that I don't think I have any answer to.
It's more of a big question.
I don't know if anyone has the answer.
Yeah.
I mean, there's some, what is love?
I guess people.
People get old and ugly, so that kind of supports the blind theory.
If you stay in love with someone.
From a physical standpoint.
But I think we've talked about before.
I think there might be something as we get older.
Older people start looking hot.
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.
But, hey, we'll know and we're like 65.
Unless they come out with some like reverse aging thing, which is also possible.
We're just hot forever.
I feel like it's happened already a little bit.
I feel like in college, if I looked at a 30-year-old,
I'd be like, that person's pretty old.
Yeah, yeah.
I wouldn't really be into it.
And I think that's...
Which is hilarious because 30's still so young.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, like, I...
Yeah.
I mean, people that are like 18 look like truly children right now.
Right, yeah.
At that age, you're like, babe.
And at the same time when we were 18, a 30-year-old's like,
a fucking middle-aged person to me.
I'm like, what the fuck?
Yeah, even if they were hot, I wouldn't even...
Yeah, you're like, you're so old.
Yeah.
Ancient fucking...
person.
Okay.
Bullied by kids.
We talked about that.
Appalachia people.
I don't know what it has to do with anything.
Tell me about it.
I started watching a lot of these videos about this guy called Peter Santonello.
I remember if I told you about it, but he just like...
It's just travel vlogging where he goes to like parts of the United States that no one knows, not
no one knows about, but like weird towns in Appalachia or like weird like, weird like.
oceans sit, like, places that are like these weird islands around the United States
are just places no one's heard of.
And it's like, it's like, it's almost like uncontacted tribes, but they live, like, the people
in Appalachian, man, are something else.
Real, truly.
Yeah.
It's like, some of them you don't even know what they're saying.
They have, like, their own dialect of stuff, or they're talking away where you're like,
what the fuck?
But they're all, at the end of the day, they're all just like casual living people.
But it's so weird to have, like, like, you know, like, they're like, casual living people.
But it's so weird to have, like, like, like, you know, like,
like, parts of the United States that seems so detached from anything that's going on.
Like, on the internet or in major cities, they're just like, yeah, we're just fucking out here doing our thing.
There's a book, that book right there, called Educated.
It's about some lady who grew up in Appalachia.
And she literally, she, like, gets out of it, goes to college.
And in, this is just one little anecdote, but in a lecture hall, someone brings up the Holocaust,
and she raised her hand and asked, what is that?
Holy shit.
And everyone's, everyone's like, that's a fucked up joke.
Like, everyone got mad at her.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, I imagine.
But, like, they're isolated, to your point.
Yeah, dude.
You grow up in a world that's so, like, I mean, I have to imagine if you're going to a public school in Appalachia, who knows what you're getting in time.
It's got to be so crazy.
And most of the towns are, like, it's a weird, they're all like a ton of towns of, like, 100 people that are isolated enough to where those towns don't even see other towns.
Yeah.
And it's just like, you grow up in these small pockets that have, like, maybe one tiny school.
Thank God, we didn't grow up there.
Oh, man.
Yes, truly.
That would be, we'd be entirely different people.
We wouldn't have a podcast.
No.
We would be just stuck in Appalachia, probably, doing nothing else.
And also, like, all the, the, what is it, the OxyConnor-Purdue Farmer stuff, like, people talk about how rabidged, like, Philadelphia in that area.
That stuff made its way.
Appalachia got fucked.
Yeah.
Dude, all those, like, little towns everywhere, it just destroyed those places.
Like, all those coal miners or, like, oil people, like, dude, and when that, those videos were
that guys interviewing all these people, they all talk about it.
How, like, it just came through and just, like, wiped out half of their town that just made them addicts.
And it's like, now everything sucks.
Because you have, like, half of the town is just criminals in the sense of, to get their drugs.
They go, like, break in and rob people and all this shit.
It's fucking nuts, dude.
But, anyway.
Well, I hope they're.
Doing okay.
Yeah, me, me too.
Let's see.
Magnetic weightlifting idea.
Oh.
So, business proposition.
And I don't know how we would do it, but.
So, for a long time, I've thought, so, like, there's all these companies that make these weightlifting at home things that are trying to, like, mimic a full weight set.
I don't know if you ever seen these things.
It'll be, like, a wall panel that has cables that can adjust resistance and kind of stuff.
But it's always.
like, the heaviest weight is maybe 150 pounds total or like 200.
You're saying without weights they mimic just through like tension?
Yeah, yeah.
They have like electrical fucking poles and stuff like that.
Maybe some weights actually in the thing, but it's typically a very limited space you can put this thing in.
Okay.
Or it takes up limited space, I should say.
And I have this idea.
I don't know if this would work, but why don't we use like a, say you have a base plate of,
on the ground, like a stadium kind of area you would stand in, and it's magnetic.
And you can just increase the frequency of magnets on things that you're holding.
So that when you're staying on it, if you want to do 100 pounds, you just up that the magnet, magnetism.
Magnetism.
There you go.
Yeah.
Up to 100 pounds.
That way the resistance on the thing would just be that amount.
I feel like it could happen, but then also I feel like there's a lot of problems.
That'd be cool.
That'd be super expensive, potentially dangerous.
I think that's really dangerous, yeah.
Also, that's, that's, uh, that'd be different than gravity because as, as you get closer to the magnet,
the force increases.
Oh, okay.
Versus gravity, it's like consistent.
So it'd be a different type of, I guess tension is the same, or tension would be the opposite,
like an elastic band.
Sure.
Yeah, yeah.
But like, I guess with three, but you can still get a workout out of it.
Yeah, but I think, I think you grip some good points.
I mean, dangerous to just.
Just give that to consumers.
It'd be like an MRI.
Like, maybe not quite that strong, but.
Yeah, but just enough to, because they released one recently called like the Pana something.
And they're, the whole advertisement was like, get a full workout, have like as much way as the gym.
And it goes up to 200 pounds.
And like, that's, it's magnetized?
No, no, no, no, it is literally a, a pulley system.
Oh, God.
But it's like.
200 pounds of magnetized.
force would be, like going beyond that would be crazy.
Also, I didn't even think about this.
If you have a magnet in your home with that, it would just attract every metal thing.
Oh, yeah.
It would need to be like an MRI room where you can't bring any, if you have a bracelet on, it could
fucking, at that point, you just burn your hand off.
This is why we talk about these things.
Because I think about this, I'm like, magnets, it sounds great.
And then the second you try to apply that to a home, I don't even know if it would save space.
Yeah, at the end of the day.
It would probably just get a home gym.
Just get a squat rack.
Fuck.
Well, that goes that idea.
I thought it was going on last show.
I don't want to poo on it.
It could be, you know.
Hey, I'd rather have honesty than you going, that's a great idea.
Those are just all my initial thoughts, but who knows?
I mean, if I show that the Shark Tank, I imagine they would go, no.
That's dumb.
You would hurt people.
I would love to see you demo that product in front of Shark Tank.
I just hurt myself.
Just deadlifting 400 pounds of man.
Magnetism.
Rips their desk away from them.
Oh, my God.
All right.
Oh, man, dude.
So there's, this happens almost daily because I go on walks around the city.
And there's this Brazilian jihitsu place that opened up near me.
And I walk by it almost.
Fuck, yeah.
Yeah.
And it's on the water, on the river.
Get involved, dude.
I've been thinking about it.
But the funny thing that happens is every time I'm walking by it, there's, like, people in
there, like, rolling around, like, doing jiu-jitsu.
And every once in a while, I'll lock eyes with some guys just getting
choke the fuck out.
I'm just walking by and there's a guy like, oh, this is dying.
And we're just looking to each other so long.
This guy's like almost passing out.
Do you just stop walking and watch him for a little bit?
I should, dude.
Just with your coffee right outside the window as he's getting choked.
Dude, it's just, it's so fun.
Just seeing people so, like, exhausted, stressed out, freaking out.
And that just being like, just looking at them.
It's crazy something that intense is just,
just in a box next to the street that you can look in.
Literally, just full, like, standing plate windows, so you can just watch the whole thing go down.
God, it's so good.
Yeah, part of me wants to try it out, but I, yeah.
That seems right down your alley.
Yeah, dude, but I always, every time I hear about some guide, and it's probably more fear than anything
of people do in BJJ, they're like, fucking get issues all the time.
Because especially when you're starting in, like, the amateur realm, it's like people don't know
how to, like, do things correctly, and they can tweak your neck, pull your knees, and you just
get, like, riddle with injuries.
Yeah.
Because it's high.
That feels not worth it.
Yeah, dude.
I don't want to fucking tear my meniscus of some fucking dude who's trying to be JJ's, like, pulling
the wrong way.
Because I, I didn't know you could do that from bad technique.
Oh, yeah, dude.
You can, I mean, the most common thing I hear is knees and neck stuff, where people
who just, they pull in the wrong way and you fucking rip a disc or fucking tear a mnisciscus.
Dude, fucking up your neck can be like a lifelong.
You can get paralyzed, dude.
Well, that too, but even just like neck pain.
Like, start messing with your discs that might just never go away.
Yeah.
So, like, that's where I'm like, I don't know if I want to invest.
Even though I can make an argument more.
Just don't get into fights and you're good.
Yeah, just never, just get a gun.
Dude, honestly, two major decisions that I keep getting close to.
I know that are inevitable, but I keep getting really close to.
And then backing out the last second, getting a dog and buying a gun have been the two things
where I'm like, I'm so close to buying a gun.
You got to move out of the city, my friend.
That's just country.
lifestyle right there. But I have the balance where I'm like, I'm almost going to get a dog
and then I back out. So if I get both the same time.
It's all good to be sweet. Yeah, dude.
Everything I've heard from people like us just like living alone, they get a dog. They're like,
I never could have imagined the connection that I would have with this animal. Yeah. And the reason I
every time I go home and visit my parents, they have two dogs that have become like family because
they've had them for like three years. And the last time I went home, I had to take one to the ER
vet because I was literally dog sitting. But that's a whole other story, which is, but it's
like, they are the best.
Dogs are the fucking best.
And just to have one living with me would be the best.
Yeah.
And I've, I've gone to the point where I go, I pick one out, the shelter.
And I'm just like, no, I can't do it.
You've gone to the shelter?
I've gone to the shelter.
I've gone to the shelter in Wisconsin.
I mean, excited, and, like, looked around and found one
I'm like, I think this is it.
One chose you?
Just sits right in front of you?
And it was a little chihuahua thing.
I was like, this dog, fuck.
What kind would you get?
I don't see you with a chihuahua.
Me neither.
But dude, there's something that happens.
But there's love.
You go there and one dog is just like, this is it.
You see a dog and you know that's the dog.
Everyone says that.
Dogs and cats.
They just kind of come up.
There's some energy in the universe that makes it happen where, like, you just go there.
It's fucking beautiful.
It's like Avatar when they link with the flying things.
That always seems way too sexual for me.
The hair connection?
Yeah.
They're just, like they do it with each other.
It's like souls binding.
Well, okay, hear me out.
In that movie, they do it with each other, which seems like a sexual thing.
Oh, right.
Right. Oh, and then they do it the same thing with animals.
Yes.
I'm like, are they fucking all these animals?
Is that implied?
That's a good point.
Because they make it real sexy when they're doing it to each other.
And then suddenly it's like...
Yeah, but I think it's implied they, like, also fuck with their hair locked in.
Do they have penises and vaginas?
I don't think we know.
Yeah, they never show.
They cover them.
Yeah, so presumably.
Okay.
That makes me feel a little better about it.
I remember seeing it the first.
I'm like, are they?
They went straight from like...
Just in the theater looking around.
Are we supporting bestiality now in an alien culture?
But yeah, no.
That's a good point.
I never thought about that.
Yeah.
To backtrack to what you're saying,
that was the beautiful thing about the dogs.
Like, yes.
There is a connection.
It is a weird connection,
similar to things with, like, connections with humans
where you just kind of connect and you see someone and you're like,
oh, dude, is awesome.
But with the dog, you're like,
oh, you're the best.
And there's something you can just see.
And so that's going to happen soon.
That'd be sweet if you got a dog.
Yeah.
I think it's coming in the next year.
Hell yeah.
That and a gun.
Dude, fucking crazy story.
All right, we're at 40.
So I hop on playing games with some buddies last night.
My one friend hops on, Corey, who you've, oh, fucking names.
You've been.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he's like talking about how he just bought his dad's gun from his mom because their dad died like three years ago.
And his mom had.
the dad's gun.
He bought the gun for him.
I'm like,
and this,
this friend is very left-leaning and is not a guy
would ever imagine buying a gun.
Okay.
And I'm like, why do you buy the gun?
He's like, well, there's been bands of kids who've been, he lives out.
Gray star to the answer for that question.
He, uh, he lives out in the, like, nice suburbs, like far west of here.
And, uh, he's like, there's been bands of kids who drive out to these,
nice suburbs and in just like multiple cars of them get out and start breaking into houses
and like literally they were trying to break into his house and he has it on all because they have
cameras around their house and like have video of these kids literally like trying every door
and window all are like five different kids and they're doing it all over the fucking neighborhood.
Holy shit.
Yeah, dude.
I'm like that's as terrible.
Where does he live?
Merton, which won't bleed that out.
Okay.
Then you get to that point in your head where it's like, am I going to shoot a.
kid who breaks into my house.
But dude, if they have, if they're breaking your, he has a, he has a newborn.
That's, it's like, then that, yeah.
But it's, it's just like, what are you supposed to do?
Just let it, I'd, unfortunately, I'd rather are on the side defending myself than letting them just have, get, there's five now kids who are already breaking my house and just be like, well, let's see what they do next.
Right.
Sucks.
They do make guns that are like not lethal.
Do you ever get ads for those?
I get ads for them all the time.
No.
It's probably because I've been looking at guns.
Yeah.
They're like...
But from what I understand, it's like a heavy BB gun.
Like, it'll fuck you up, but it probably won't kill you.
That are there, it's literally, the ones I've seen have been what they use for a riot, they're beanbags.
And they fight, like, they'll break your fucking ribs.
They're heavy, but they're just loaded being bag guns that'll just fuck you up, which that's better.
It feels like a good self-defense thing.
Yeah, they'd be good.
But if they have a gun, though, right?
It's just, it's a weird.
Don't want to bring a bean bag.
bag to a gunfight.
You're right.
A backup gun in the left holster.
Yeah, dual-wielding.
Beanbag gun in the right.
Just in case.
Like you want the beanbag or the real thing?
Yeah, what you want some.
What you want a taste of.
So after this conversation, went to looking at what states have a, uh, not only stand your ground
law, but I didn't know about this other thing called castle.
I thought that was everywhere.
Stand your ground.
No, no, no.
I mean.
especially not in places like California or New York where like you can get in trouble
for defending yourself if they break into your home.
And there's even, even, so in Wisconsin, it's, there's this thing called Castle Province
Law, which is like, stand your ground's like, you can be out in public and someone's like,
I'm going to fuck you up and you shoot them.
Okay.
And then Castle Province law is, there's variations, but it's if you're in your home and you think
that your life is threatened, you can defend yourself against this person.
Oh, shit.
But then within California.
Castle Province law, there's this retreat thing.
So those are like unrelated.
Stand your ground is more extreme, right?
That would also apply to your...
On the spectrum of this law, and it's more extreme.
So Castle Province is pulled back to like, has to be your property.
Yes.
And so within that, though, most states have this thing where it's within Castle Province law,
you have to retreat first.
And if they follow you into another room, then you're allowed to do something.
So if someone breaks in your house...
You have to retreat first.
Yeah.
So if someone breaks in your house and there's...
they're, like, looting you, and you go retreating to, like, your bedroom, if they don't follow
you, you, you can't go out there and shoot them.
Okay.
But if they, like, try to fucking chase after you, then you can fucking blow them away.
And that's most states have that kind of version.
But, like, Wisconsin...
How do you prove that?
I don't...
No idea.
But in Wisconsin, it is truly, if they're on your property and you feel like your life is there,
and you can just fucking blast them.
Damn.
Yeah.
So, it's just, it's crazy to have a friend who just...
like has this actively going on in his home.
Like, wake up in the middle of the night.
There's just like five kids trying to break into your home.
And they're like, he says, so they have video cameras all over the place.
And there's like kids without...
Do alarms go off if someone gets close like that?
He's an alarm in the house, but not the outside.
But he said that there's...
Their kids aren't even wearing ski masks or shy-sties.
And they're just going up to like cameras, like, flicking them off and shit.
So they're like, they're full on just fuck you mode.
So who knows what the fuck they're going to do.
do.
See, that actually...
Yeah.
That makes me less scared almost because I was like, oh, they're just kids fucking around.
Like, doing bad things for sure.
Yeah.
But trying to break into homes is...
That is rough.
It's tough.
I'd beanbag him for sure.
Yeah, dude.
I mean, I think if I was in that situation, I would definitely not be like, I'm going to see what happens.
Right.
If I had a gun, I'd be like, I'm sorry.
This is...
You either get out now or I'm going to shoot you.
There'd be a warning.
I feel it could be good to have, like, a speaker.
that you could speak out.
Yeah, like a PA system.
Hey, guys, I have a gun loaded.
You come in here.
Do you what's even crazier?
So I was looking into all this, like,
legality of this bullshit?
You can, it's illegal to booby trap your house.
So you...
I was wondering about that, too?
Yeah, you can't, you can shoot someone if it comes to it,
but you can't, like, set it up.
So if someone comes in, it just, like, takes them out.
I was, I was thinking about that with this balcony here,
because it's kind of, like, street level.
Yeah.
I was like, what if I just electrify that whole railing?
Someone tried to crawl up.
Just get zapped.
I think that should be allowed.
Yeah?
Like, it's your property.
What about like barbed wire?
I guess that's not a booby trap.
I think a booby trap is like, it will incapacitate a person.
Unexpected.
Yeah, like barbed wire.
Like a landmine.
Yeah, just like a landmine.
You're walking to your kitchen.
You just have a landmine on the floor near the door.
Yeah.
It's so, like, dude, if it's your property,
I would say you could do whatever you want with this.
So everything that happened in home alone.
That was illegal on the kids part.
Yeah.
He went to jail right at the end of that movie.
I don't remember?
I missed that.
They arrested the kid.
Like, didn't the actor go to jail?
McCullochie Culkin?
Yeah.
No, no, he just did a ton of drugs.
Yeah, I think he had a few, like, pictures of him floating out there of him looking like he was on, like, crack and shit.
But I don't know.
I know nothing about him, other than that.
All right.
How much time we got?
You got 15 minutes?
Let's see.
Oh, my God, there's so much government shit.
I don't want to talk about it.
Give me a fun one.
I'm looking.
I mean, Adolf Hitler having IMDB is pretty...
Yeah, tell me about that.
He has an IMDB because he was in a bunch of movies in Germany.
It's crazy IMDB goes back that far.
Yeah, I mean, there's movies.
I also didn't know he was in movies.
Is that after he became famous?
That's a good question.
I don't know.
But I went on his page.
It's definitely there, and there's definitely a bunch of movies.
But you can literally just type an Adolf Hitler, IMDB,
and you can look at Adolf Hitler's...
Does he have, like, a rating or anything?
He's got to.
I don't remember what it was.
But that's on there.
Um,
but,
I mean, we can talk...
These aren't some dark stuff.
The rugby team that crashed in the Andes in, like, the 80s.
Oh, on the 80?
Yeah.
Or, wait, didn't they eat each other?
Yeah, yeah, that's the whole thing.
There's, like, that famous picture of them.
That's like...
Oh, there's just like a casual...
There's spines and rib cages everywhere that are like half eaten and half rotted.
It's one of the craziest pictures you'll ever see in your life.
I think a movie just came out about that.
Well, there's one called Alive.
That's the famous one from like, I think, the 90s.
I've never seen it.
But that's what everyone knows about the story besides it being reported on.
It's an insane story, dude.
They, like, they crash and are there for, I think, upwards of a month and some change.
Where do they crash?
In the mountains in the Andes, in South America, they're like over Chile or something.
And they fucking, they crash and like half of them die.
There's like 30 of them, ish, I think.
And then they're just kind of like, they're in the middle of a mountain range, like on the top of mountain range in snow.
And they're like, the nearest civilization is like miles and miles and miles away, and they're on a mountain.
And so they're just trying to buy their time and slowly having to feed on all their...
Were they waiting to be found?
Was that the strategy?
And a couple of times they would see planes in the sky and try to make reflective shit to get spotted.
Yeah.
Never worked.
And then I think after like a month, and they had by this time, they've eaten like all of their dead friends.
Because they're just, because it's cold, so it's keeping the meat fresh.
But they're like literally, you're eating your dead friend.
Like you're, they're a rugby team.
So they've known each other for a long.
It's a lot of good meat.
A lot of good meat.
And so they're eating.
Those thighs?
Yeah.
And they're eating.
They're eating each other and the two got, like the captain and another guy are like,
if we don't leave down and try to find a way out of this, we're all going to die.
And him and another guy go on like a week.
Dang, the captain was still a captain in that situation.
It is one of the most harrowing stories.
It is almost like a novel.
It's in so insane.
Because they're, because they're a team, they have like this relationship with each other where they're like...
The hierarchy's built in already.
Well, that and they can like tackle problems.
They're thinking.
They're not pan.
Panicing.
Like, they're...
Crazy you use the word tackle there.
Didn't even plan, honestly.
But they, they, because there are stories of people who get stranded in like nature preserves,
or not nature, like national parks and other places in the world.
And they're just people.
And they lose their fucking minds almost immediately.
And these guys are a month in and are still like, this is what we have to do.
We have to do this.
We have to do this.
What's the next thing?
And I guess to the point where the captain, the other kind of like co-lead guy,
make a week-long journey into the mountains and find their way out onto a farm in the middle of like a...
Was it just two people left by the end?
No, no, no, no.
There's like 16 dudes still alive.
And they're just like, this is the last thing we got.
And they're also like, all you've been eating is just human meat.
And so, like, your body is just falling apart.
There's one guy, because when you don't have any dietary fiber in your diet, you start to get really constipated.
There's one guy who didn't poop for 36 days.
Did he die?
No.
Wow.
So, but they're just like, well, I thought it gets like life-threatening if you go, like a week with that shit.
I mean, it probably is, but he survived and he didn't shit for that long.
Holy shit.
But, uh, yeah, literally.
Tackle, holy shit, what else is coming?
How many puns can we work into this harrowing story?
So, yeah, they make it on to some random Chilean farm and then that, that picture that you see online of them is from when they showed up and, like, found them.
Because the guys were like, I know exactly.
And the guy, the entire time they're making this week long journey out, mapped the,
entire route to where they are.
So it's, it, again, highly, go read the story if you have time.
I'd say watch, the movie's supposed to be really good and kind of gives a good perspective,
but you read that and you're like, this isn't true.
There's no way this is true.
I feel like even just finding some farm, it's like, can they even support all these people?
Like, just some isolated farm in the middle of the way?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I think it was, because there's, the farm is still connect to a town.
Like, they had ways of getting there.
But even funnier, too.
when they first arrived to where they saw the first person who, like, saw them,
they came upon a river that was, like, separating them from the,
they can see this guy, like, 200 yards out and just, like, hey, hey,
and they're just screaming at this fucking guy.
And the guy sees him, and he's like, tomorrow, I'll come get you.
He has no idea of the, like, direness of the situation.
He's just like, because you see these people who look.
They probably don't even speak the language either, right?
I don't know.
I think maybe, but there's also like this, you see two guys across,
this river and they look like crackheads because they've been eating human meat and just
living out in the wilderness for 30-some days.
And this guy, the guy at the farm was probably like, what the fuck?
Like, I'll come back tomorrow with more people.
I'm not doing this now.
So they had to wait another night and just sit there.
And the next day, they came and then they fucking brought them across the river.
Oh, they did wait the day.
Yeah, yeah.
But literally the guy saw him was like, tomorrow.
That's what he said to him.
He said tomorrow.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
fucking nuts.
But, dude, do you think, so what did you say?
That was a two-week journey that those two guys made?
I think a week or a week journey.
And how long were they out there total?
I think like a month and a half or two months.
Do you think after they found that help, they were like, man, man, I wish we did this right away.
We didn't have to eat all that human meat.
Yeah, there was probably a decent amount of that.
But I think, so the tricky part is that when they showed up, I believe it was October.
And so there's when no.
November, there was a whole thing they left at a point where it was okay to leave because the winter, it starts to melt.
Because when they land, they're in like 10 feet of snow.
Okay, so they literally couldn't even track.
Yeah, yeah.
It was like, it was impossible up until that moment, I think.
And it was like, this is now, we have to try this right now.
That makes sense.
Yeah, yeah.
So I don't think there was that because of that whole thing going on.
But yeah, imagine you like, they fell in the middle of essentially winter there, which was like, life doesn't exist where they were.
It was just nothing.
it's snow and mountain top.
And they're like, well, okay, I guess we're...
It'd be rough if the farm was, like, just over the horizon.
And they were just eating those people a little time.
I mean, that could happen, too.
Because you don't, you can't scale a fucking mountain.
Right.
Yeah.
Fucking nuts.
All right.
Let's find a good one to end on.
Hearing that story, that would suck to get lost in a national park.
Like, yes, it would suck, but I would also feel like this is, I shouldn't be freaking out here.
Like, those guys made it out.
I think,
One of the important things, too.
So I should have said that better earlier.
So post these events, the people who go through these things, the rugby team, the theory is
because they were a rugby team and they knew each other in the morale was so high, that they
seem not as affected as there's a famous group called like the Dahmer Party or something
that a similar amount of people got lost in National Park and then it got found.
But they're like, is this called the Dahmer Party because of?
No, no.
I think their last names were, unfortunately, Dahmer.
But they got lost, and they were found, but when they found them, they were, like, feral creatures.
Like, they had, like, and their humanity hasn't fully come back for a lot of them.
They, like, something broke.
And the theory is because this was a rugby team, that, like, it kept them from breaking in that way.
I could see that.
Yeah.
Or just, like, more people in general, like, having a bigger community.
I feel like you'd go crazy and slower.
I think the Dahmer Party had a decent.
amount of people, though.
Really?
It was just this whole thing of like, yeah, you go, you go listen to interviews with the Dahmer Party
people.
It's like, something got lost in there.
And then the interviews with the rugby players are like, mostly good spirits.
They're just like, yeah, it's crazy.
It happened.
We just, I don't know, ate our friends.
Damn.
Yeah.
Fucking bananas.
I mean, I read, listened to a like a four-part podcast detailing the entire story in a comedy way for that last podcast.
It's said that.
Last podcast is one of the best things to ever exist.
But they're like, them describing, like, sawing off, because they also don't have, like, knives and stuff.
So they did to, like, make, make shifts sharp things where they're, like, they're peeling layers of skin off your dead friends and literally eating it.
It's fucking, dude, it's so crazy.
But you couldn't imagine that, you can't imagine that situation.
Yeah, no, can't.
We could try, find some dead guy.
Some dead guy somewhere we can eat.
All right, last one.
This is a good one, I think.
Like, random thought, how confusing is it to animals that aren't domesticated when a human pets them?
And this came from the idea of, like, domesticated animals have so much history of us petting them.
But in nature, petting doesn't really, like, happen to things.
Like, no one's going and be like, oh, who's a good guy?
Like, no one's doing that.
Yeah, I feel like wild animals do it to each other kind.
Kind of?
Like a mother tiger, like grabbing their kids.
I guess, yeah.
Like, a whole snuggle time.
That's true.
But I feel like that sometimes isn't.
But I feel like a person walking up to an animal.
I feel like they would just see that as a threat.
Yeah.
That's true.
But isn't it weird, though, that at some point, I guess, like, there's grooming for animals and shit like that.
But it's weird to think that we just petted our way to, like, having some animals be okay with that.
We just kept patting up.
You just kept petting them.
Trust us.
Yeah, for thousands of years.
This is awesome.
And then they're like, wait a second, pets rule.
Yeah, well, so are you saying that you think that's like ingrained in, like, evolutionarily in animals that frequently get domesticated?
Or just, like, purely domesticated animals?
That petting's good?
Yeah.
I think that's ingrained in only domesticate animals.
So you think like a wild dog would be more okay with being pet?
No, not truly wild dog.
But here's, here's my theory.
theory on this, that you can pet any animal into domestication.
Oh.
That it has to start somewhere, but if you pet something long enough, soon it'll love it.
Well, that's like the whole theory, like, what was the first hug?
I've never heard that.
It's like, the first hug.
You just walk in, and the person's like, what are you doing?
And they're like, just trust me.
Which makes me think, did that come out of like need first in like cold situations,
and then the byproduct is us feeling good about it.
It's like, oh, I'll keep you warm.
Yeah, that's like a loving thing to do.
It's the whole evolutionary argument on all this stuff.
It's like, all the things we think of is love or feelings is all just some evolution.
Well, I feel like a mom and her newborn baby.
I feel like there's an instinct to, like, hug.
Yeah.
But I think that also comes from, like, a mom, if it wasn't that way, children wouldn't survive.
If women weren't not, like, keeping babies near them and wanting to take care of them.
And then there's a level of, like, all the hormones that are released when you have skin contact with a child and all that.
Yeah.
So I, but again, who knows?
It could be one way or another.
Yeah, you think you could walk up to a deer and just be like, come here, buddy.
No.
I feel like you could have food.
Food.
It would walk up to you and maybe give it a little pet.
I mean, there's enough videos out there to support the theory.
Yeah.
We're like, curious deer.
And it goes even we're even weirder.
I feel like newborn anything, mostly animals, obviously.
It's looking for something to trust.
Well, like, they have no idea.
They only trust.
They don't know distrust yet.
So, like, they're like, oh, what's that?
And then you pet them, they're like, that's pretty good.
And then it's like, it's like, it's pretty good.
Yeah, it's like you just have enough newborn things and you just breed them that way.
And you can create just generations of animals that are domesticated.
It just takes a long time.
Yeah, I mean, you can raise any type of animal in a domestic situation.
I feel like it'll like petting.
But I don't think it works, though.
So, like, for example, I've seen videos of a dude with a pet bear.
Yeah, but dude, that thing will snap.
That thing's,
gun as fucking snap. For sure.
Yeah. But even like tigers?
I mean, like Tiger King?
Yeah, but those things all, they snap.
They always end up hurting somebody.
Whereas opposed to like a cat or dog, and cats and dogs can also do that.
But there's like, there's way more of a chance that it won't attack.
We've muted that instinct.
Yeah. We're like anything that's not, like, I always think of raccoons.
Because I have two friends now who have told me about stories of they grew up around people
who owned raccoons.
Like, found a raccoons and they raised a baby raccoon.
But eventually it gets to a point where it might like the owner, but it is so mean to anything else.
Yeah.
And it's like, because it's not domesticated, you can't have it.
It'll just attack people all the fucking time.
I think that, to your point, you just have to have to have, like, ways to mute the animal instinct over long periods of time until that's just like snuffed out.
Otherwise, it'll be fucking.
Yeah, I mean, maybe that's why we have dogs and cats as pets.
Maybe that instinct is less strong in them anyway.
That's why they ended up being our pets.
Totally could be, too.
That, I mean, another argument.
It's like animals that have allowed us to get close.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
There's so many things that could be true around that stuff.
Because it could be proximity, too.
We could have just evolved in places where the animal was there and it just, like, happened.
Or it could be that it was, like, the most likely animal.
No way to fucking know.
I know in Russia that foxes are that.
They have domesticated foxes?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's awesome.
You've probably seen videos of foxes.
I was like, people will have pets.
Russia has domesticated foxes.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
So you can do it.
What animal would you like to have domesticate?
Penguin, dude.
Oh, that was quick.
And the ones that are like, the Emperor penguins that are five feet tall, so you just wake up
and just stand in your fucking house.
Yeah, dude.
Just whiwit, we're walking around.
I feel like birds aren't as like affectionate as like a dog or a cat.
I can only speak from my limited experience.
with we birds sat and I had a few friends that had birds and they can be very like they'll
like come literally chill with you all yeah they'll sound your shoulder they'll like rub you they
want to be pets sweet yeah it's pretty nice but they're not the most like I think generally they're
not nearly as like a dog or cat they're a little more wizard-brained yeah and they're kind of some
of them are terrifying yeah like a cockatoo that'll just scream at you it's just terrifying it's just terrifying
penguin would be sick though penguin would be nice but again we're we're operating on the influence that this is like they're fully domesticated so this thing is like it is as if it's a dog but it's a penguin in my house yeah it like it wants to be pet it's chill you know it's weird do penguins lay down I feel like they're always just standing I think they they do only I mean they lay down to slide around to move oh that's true but but but like them chilling is standing because if you ever seen the videos of them all like going to
sleep they're just standing up and falling together just like that so yeah their chill is too you could you could set up like a little
slide like half your stairs is just like a smooth slide it would just barely slide down it
dude thinking about what would you need to host a penguin if we're talking the emperor one though
it like to had a thing barreling down your stairs and like 20 miles my stairs there would just nail the wall
dude just go through the wall because emperor penguin has to be at least 100 pounds it's a big thing yeah you can see that
But dude, you could hug that thing.
You could literally just standing and hug you back.
The pet that hugs you back, an emperor penguin.
That's a great answer.
I was thinking raccoon, but I'd be a good one.
Yeah, they can like carry things for you.
Yeah.
I don't know why I think having something that would be as big as big as you, but it's like not dangerous would be so funny.
I feel like a monkey would be pretty cool.
Oh, yeah.
If you're guaranteed no danger.
Give me a beer.
It could literally just grab you a beer.
I mean, dude, there's videos of monkeys doing so much human shit that it's like,
it's crazy how much stuff they can do.
It's terrifying.
But yeah, that'd be cool.
All right.
What are we at?
Oh, good place to end it.
Wrap it up.
All right.
Until next time.
Until next time.
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Bye, bye, folks.