In this episode, the hosts explore a range of fascinating topics, from the myth of lobster immortality to the bizarre world of AI-generated horror. They also discuss cultural differences in diet and the implications of nuclear deterrence.
Notable quote: Did you know lobsters might live forever?
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And hearing all over fucking YouTube and Spotify. I think we're up to like six
consistent listeners. That's pretty good. That's not bad. We were at two for a while.
Dude, I have come across podcasts with comedians that I like and they get like 80
listeners or 80 subscribers. Oh, really? Yeah. And it's like it's tough out
there. There's so many. There's so many huge ones that it's kind of a winner
take all time. Yeah. And I don't want to name them because I like them. But it is
just like I would expect thousands at a minimum at a minimum. And I see them
like they got like 80 subscribers. Yeah. They're really making no money. And like
very successful comedians. Yes. Yeah. So I'm like, I don't know. I'll take six, dude.
I'll take six any day. I mean, and at the same time with no marketing,
not to fluff our own shit and be in the podcast. But like we don't we don't do
anything. Just pure talent. Yeah.
They're all our friends. They will come. They just were drawn to us. Okay.
Where's the lobster thing? Okay. Lobsters don't die of old age. Now I put this
on here. And the second we started talking about before we went live, I thought
I didn't validate this at all. Okay. But it's but I've seen this. The words you
said exactly were, yeah, they're eternal. Yeah. With full confidence. As if I
been researched. You threw a turtle around so lightly. Don't die eternal. It is
it is the thing. But I think there's because they have ways of validating
organic matters age. I don't know if they do that through carbon dating or some
other method. But like you've probably seen, I feel like it's been circulating in
the news for the past like maybe a couple of months and it'll come up every
once in a while. There's this shark that lives in some like it's a fresh water
shark that lives somewhere. I think in Ireland that is like 400. It's the
longest living thing that they found alive. Holy shit. That's right. That's the
carbon dating. Yeah, I don't know. But they can do with organic matter. And I
think that they have found lobsters that have gone beyond the hundreds of
years, but are like dead. And they can't they keep finding lobsters at older and
older ages being dead, but had still fresh enough to where like, oh, this just
died. Okay. So they're like, oh, they don't have an age cap right now. Okay. So
there's no typical age where a lobster will die. Correct. Saying that the only way
they die is by like actually killing them through something. So we should keep
keep catching them because they won't die otherwise. That's not how that works.
Because you can kill all you can make them go extinct if you killed all of them.
Yeah, but we got a if they never die. Yeah, they'll want the population just get
out of control. Well, that's like if nothing ate them. That's like I guess
there's lots of things in lobster, including us. Lobsters are so good. They're delicious.
Fun fact that you probably know, but they used to be like prison food. Yeah, yeah.
It was like poor people food. God, that was that was one where I'd go to a party
and someone would bring that up like every party I went to. It was just like the
thing going around. We're like, did you know that lobster? There are certain facts
that people just love repeating. And I feel like they have phases. Yeah. I remember
that one literally being like in the zeitgeist at like social gatherings. Like
just everyone knows about prisoners and lobsters now. And people just love
repeating it because it's like slightly counterintuitive. Yeah. And it's funny
too because it could totally be fake like this lobster thing I just told you about.
And no one would know. I had never valedade the prison thing with those fucking people.
But I overview while lobsters have a unique biological trait that makes them
resistant to aging. They don't live forever and can die from other causes,
but not old age. Wait, hold on. That doesn't make any sense though.
They can't die from old age, but they don't live forever. Yeah. I think it just
assumes something will kill it. But okay. So in the in the if you're to separate
other things killing it, it would live forever then. Yeah. I think if they had
no predators. Yeah. Or if it can't get sick, they could starve probably. Yeah.
So you take it's needs are met. Okay. Yeah. It just can just age forever.
That so lobsters have an enzyme called telomerase.
Telomerase, which maintains their telomeres that those are like what indicates
your age right? The length of them. Yeah. So like in your DNA, you know, the the
double helix. Yeah. On the ends of those like ladder things are telomeres. And
the length of those can typically the rungs on the ladders.
So they're run and on the. Oh, the spirally part. So the rungs. So they have the
rungs. But think like they they're on the ends. There's caps. So like on the on the
other side of the thing going down essentially. Those those I believe are called
your telomeres. And the length of those predicts health outcomes pretty well.
Okay. So I guess telomerase is probably produced by the telomeres. It allows
their cells to keep dividing potentially leading to a very long lifespan.
However, they still face threats like molting diseases. Natural predators, which lead to their demise.
So you have to imagine with that too, if if your cells never stop
replicating, your your chance of cancer is inevitable. You're going to have a
mutation in there somewhere. Okay. But but if you could if you somehow get rid of
the disease that comes with that. No cancer. Yeah. I wonder if that's going to be a
some like thing they're going to extract from them. I feel like we're starting to
hit that point where like a lot of our a lot of the things that kill us we've
figured out and then cancer just gets all of us eventually. Yeah, I think we
also die of all the age. I think but I've said this before. But I think cancer is
going to be just like how bacteria was pre. Oh yeah. We're going to figure out
some do this. Starwash in our hands. Cancer's gone. Yeah. No, the trick is you have to do
coffee enemies every morning. Oh, no, no cancer. But there's all this research
coming out in these MRNA vaccine stuff they're using for cancer. They're getting
success rates with like aggressive cancers because they're like able to
program it on a DNA level to just like either implode on itself or half the
battle with cancer is our body just do a place where it like stops fighting it
because like every day our body is getting rid of cancer cells. You'll have
cells to become pre cancers and your body's like, oh, fuck that. And something
like misfires in your system where it can no longer identify it efficiently. So
that your body's not taken care of and you'll find endless examples of someone
going through some life experience or moving to a different place and their
body is free of cancer. So like our body has the power to kill cancer and
something goes wrong and we still haven't quite figured that out. Okay. And these
MRNA vaccines that essentially just either kill the cancer without hurting any
part of you or tell your body to be like, fuck that cancer. Fuck it. Sweet. It's
how you beat it. Yeah. It's fucking sick. So I think in our lifetime we'll live a
post cancer vaccine error. We'll be like, oh yeah. People usually get cancer
and die. That was fucking gay. Dude. That'd be crazy. Yeah. And I think next
on till we'll be like dementia. But shit. Yeah. Well, there are these
shaman's tough. They're showing diet trials that are a little reversing
early stage Alzheimer's. Like literally to the point where people... Diet
trials? Yeah. Where people are eating just like low fat plant-based diet. They
already have randomized control trials showing people who have to the point
at least in the trials the because they interviewed the participants afterwards
and before the intervention which I think it was 24 weeks of low fat whole
food plant-based 60 minutes of moderate cardiovascular activity which is
like literally walking and then 30 minutes of stress what do you call it therapy
of mindfulness meditation something of that sort and community. So they're like
healthy centers with people their age. I think living alone's got to be a big
yeah doesn't help just don't talk to people you just naturally go crazy. Yeah. I
think the point of this one though is that they've tried those other things
regardless of the diet in other trials and you maybe see slowing of the disease
but you never really like the diet the biggest piece. It seems to be because
it's there's a lot it's an arterial disease that's the suspicion is that
like everything gets gunked up so blood flow to the brain is so mitigated
that eventually you start like degrading your brain and the diet like a
whole food plant based diet opens up your arteries substantially and increases
blood flow. So they put people on this 24 weeks thing they had a statistically
significant enough amount of people that like before the trial they could
literally not read a book the memory was so bad they'd like read a page and
be like I don't know what I just read by the end of the trial most people could
read a full book that's how I feel. Yeah I know too. What was that just happened
exactly but at the end of the trial they could remember a book and they could
sit the one that's open these they could sit down watching actual movie they're
like I can enjoy movies again because they see a scene be like I don't know what's
having the movie. It's fucking beautiful. Yeah so yeah I think there's hope. What
do they eat? Just poop. Beach 24 weeks. Here's the catch. It's a shit diet. No
but I mean it's mostly whole foods and then our plants but also these are
those studies too where and a lot of scientists will say that at least in the
food world the less 10% really doesn't matter that much. So like if you're
eating 90% whole food plant based sources and your last 10% is like fucking
double bacon cheeseburger which would be like literally one a week. Now your your
body is equipped to pretty solid. Yeah it's like that's fucking whatever. It's
also the majority of the high majority I guess 90% but we'll see there's still
trials being done on more of that stuff. Well again Wisconsin's tough place to live
free and healthy. Yeah ugly people. Dementia cancer. Yeah it is it is what you
make it at the same time. Oh man. I won't say names. I'll tell you after the
pie but I got into a debate over. Let me hear it. Over. I love hearing about your
debates. You always they're always crazy. You know in America I feel like we
always hear about like how Europe has this cleaner food and there's not a lot
of preservatives and like people can eat whatever and they're all they can
whatever they want their healthier and people ignore all the facts around that
stuff but the this idea that through regulation they have it better I think is
just the farthest thing from the truth because of the core of it is choice. Like in
America you have the choice to eat healthier food or each of your food. Like
that's and in Europe it's crazy to think that like they got rid of a
preservative that they used to put in twinkies and now they did that you're
gonna be healthier because that's what we're talking about here. They're banning
like certain pesticides and certain preservatives and certain like food
coloring like red dye 40 got banned here recently and all the world's like we
have been that stuff for so long ago and it's like dude that food dye is
typically in unhealthy food so saying that like banning these ingredients is
going to lead you to a healthier place I think it's ignoring the
totality of it going on. I feel like it's a cultural thing like we just we just
love shitty food like more so than Europe does and our portion sizes are
crazy for sure but I think at the core of that is choice it's like okay and with
yeah with all the shitty food we have by allowing it to be freer you do have
so many choices in from the most unhealthy part of the spectrum all the way to
the healthiest and the more you can leave that open the cheaper healthier
options get because the the more competition there is in the space it's just
cheaper and cheaper and cheaper and if you lean towards the EU way where they go
listen all of you has to be organic can have red dye 40 can do anything you
essentially just create monopolies in markets because the bar with every
organic thing reduction of that that is cost so all these players that could have
gotten into the market no longer can and so only these big dogs can keep in
the game and the market smaller and smaller and smaller and the same people who
are like yeah we got to get these regulations once those companies have
monopolies like an Amazon they go fuck Amazon like dude you you did this all
through market motion controlling of markets do you think they are healthier though
Europe in general yeah I think it depends on I can anecdotally this is not
science or data but I I was overwhelmed by when I went there I've been
there once yeah in Switzerland and Germany and everyone looks so much healthier
sure and they rip sigs like crazy like way more than us my conclusion based on
literally no data was like that their food must be better yeah because how can
you reconcile that but totally I just think it comes back to this idea of if
those people were eating the foods were all these like things were eliminated
from like twinkies and sodas and all that yeah I don't think changing that right
I move the market I totally I don't think regulation has anything to do with it
right I think it's a cultural thing because like choice you're right we have choice
but it's kind of hard when you like all your friends are going to a restaurant
and it's just all burgers on the menu and most restaurants are like that in
your area sure like that's just how we are over here yeah yeah and to your point
I think the culture here is like to go eat out all the time and do all these
like those people up there are probably not doing that as much and that's like
it that's why they are healthier or or even just eating smaller portions the
portions is one of the biggest yeah I mean my girlfriend when she was
younger did this foreign exchange thing where two French siblings came to
America lived with her and her brother for a little bit and then they went
over there and she said one of her favorite stories was when they saw a
cinnamon roll for the first time like what the fuck is this they would like
their kids still and they're like I can't eat this this is too sweet yeah like
no kid over here says that yeah no I mean that's a great point because it is
down to like how we are kind of raised to eat food yeah that's just like
there's kids raised on just fucking soda sugary soda every night states right
now yeah that's what's going on crazy so but again to point to it that it's like
some controlling that red dye yeah but again just let there be freedom in market
choices and people can choose what do I and dude I feel like there's a lot of
I'll get off this tangent though because I've already gone to the government
around there's a lot of this like people are so dumb that if we don't make
regulations like they will just become super unhealthy and it's like there's
you should empower the people sure provide information with the same time I
would make the argument that most people that see when they're feeding their
kid twinkies and sodas and their kids getting fat that they can draw a
conclusion that when they're feeding your kid garbage that they get unhealthy
yeah especially now like there's so much it maybe it would be different a
long time ago but I feel like when when hyper sugary stuff first came out we
all just got fucked as a nation because no one really realized I mean even
that you could but like it's now we've we've had all this stuff for a while
yeah feel like even the most on educated people can probably right I mean it
only take literally if you have a kid who gains 40 pounds in a year from it
like and you I don't know maybe I'm being ignorant but it just seems like such
a direct causal thing yeah of what you're eating and how big you're getting
there's also the financial component like that stuff's cheaper so maybe they
do see it they're like but I can't feed my kid any other day it is not like
those things if you were to truly shop around a grocery and like from the
produce to the meat to anything that's not in the middle your your pain
substantially less there's some somewhere along the line someone fed this
information that process food is cheaper and there's exceptions because if you
are on food stamps it's subsidized through those means so you can buy those
foods with food stamps and it's you're not really paying with money at that
point you're using food stamps to get it so but to a person who's not on food
stamps if you're shopping you're getting fresh produce and meat or dairy or
eggs typically by calorie it is cheaper okay because it you just think it takes
more work though maybe that's part of it oh I mean to prepare a healthy meal
versus throw a microwave and taste I mean if you go give someone who's
typically eating like dress gets and you give them like fucking kale like this
is kale socks yeah you just got to make it probably I'll be one of those guys
you just got to do it right how do you make kale I'm only just eating straight up
kale you just no you got to cook it saute it a little bit at some moments
salt get a little crispy on the outside have it with some like chicken and
fucking potatoes it can be good I've just tried eating like handfuls of it yeah
well you which again if you're doing the raw method get some balsamic vinegar
get some lemon on it do like balsamic oh yeah it's cheat code if you're going
just raw it's tough which don't get off you eat enough it eventually you can
kind of get a taste for it but why fucking punch yourself like that
say myself all right we're gonna that later let's put that in the back
I'm making a root gold bird machine I found you dead with that I'm like fuck I
did this to him Tom about it Tom about your thought okay root
gold bird machine someone has had to have had this thought before of just like
they're going to kill themselves and they just want one last kind of
horror and they make an extravagant root gold machine for the for the audience
who doesn't know what that is it's those like really really long chained kind of
they seem primitive sometimes of like dominoes knocking over at least to
hitting a ball and the ball hits another thing and that ball triggers a switch
but at the end of the whole thing is just a shotgun and there's a string on
the trigger that the last thing pulls and blows your head off and that dude
plays a little jingle while the balls fall down but even this hear me out way
better way of killing yourself because then you you don't get any like
a trigger fear which apparently is a thing where when people go to miss the last
second they pull out in fear so like if you're locked in in a chair and
root gold bird machines is going at it God the thing is you you presumably
design the machine yourself for sure you probably know when it's gonna come yeah
but the sound true yeah I guess it comes down to how many times if you
put like gone through test runs if you if you've done it once and made sure
that it pulls the trigger then you might not have a good enough like sense of
time yeah maybe if you had one of those funnels where balls like rolling through
with those are kind of inconsistent kind of random we're gonna build one
yeah I don't want to think about this too it's funny because do you hear of
this is a while ago that like Canada started having the suicide machines that
they're letting people go like people with like terrible illness that they're
in so much pain I've heard this take that that should be allowed I didn't yeah
people are doing it I think Sweden had one they had people who actually did
these things so but it's like a tank that just like spray some gas that knocks
you out and then sprays gas that a fix you do but imagine if like one country
like we got the root gold bird shotgun the best way to kill you yeah if your
insurance is approved you can die this way just splatter your brains across
some fucking doctor but yeah it's a good idea yeah you're gonna be mad when I
get rich off it so just off killing people I mean they'd be crazy there's
enough people to get rich off of there is like please fucking put a shotgun in
my mind be sad yeah that probably end to my death I'd be I'd be dying for my
own machine I have one ready for yourself dude for when I hit a hundred customers I
just killed myself oh you know what have you read and then there were none no
else that it's like a classic I feel like it's like the OG murder mystery book
okay I'm agatha Christie and who she is yeah I'm heavy spoiler alert if he does
that at the end there it's he sets up a machine not not a machine but like let's
see what happens it's a murder mystery that they're all in an island you don't
have to do the killer is who done it whatever okay and then when there's two
people left he rigs up something so that she finds like a message in a bottle
or something okay and when she opens it it's like attached to a string that
person's machine fucking shoots him in the head well someone thought of it a long
time ago yeah fuck I guess that's not as complex but yeah I don't know if it
counts as a machine yeah and you could make it way more entertaining yeah there's
like dominoes and fun colorful things going on throughout like a 30-minute
process a little banners that come down yeah like a just kidding right before
like one barrel has a whole shit just fucking then the other one blows your head
off now we're cooking oh god that was coming off of lobster's don't die of old age
isn't that crazy we made it all that's all we've talked about oh I guess the
other one wasn't actual topic but we kind of let into it that's that kind of
what a pet lobster now just knowing how that would live me how do you take
care of a lobster you just put in tank you know what else that just reminds me
of is rollover what I said it's fine I wasn't ready to share this fact give me a
second who's the fucking evolution guy Charles Darwin yeah he had a tortoise
yeah the glop of ghosts ones yeah he had a pet tortoise named Harriet I think
okay and it I think he got the tortoise in 1886 and it died in 2006 yeah
two that's fucking crazy and and then Steve Irwin took care of it is still a lot
oh you said die in 2000 yeah yeah what is that 160 wait when do you say you got it
18 what it was 1886 to 2006 it's like 130 years yeah yeah it's like nuts it's
crazy yeah to imagine your your pet just living a whole other lifetime after you die
dude I had this exact conversation with somebody about Paris this weekend because
like the big fucking Paris Paris Paris they can live like 90 years yeah so there's
people there's people around the world who get these things this past somehow and then
I'll live some and then you just get someone's like 80 year old you know our buddy Brian
blip his name yeah he's the one time I ever went to his house he was like picking up
something for a road trip and I was just sitting in the kitchen with his dad yeah and we just
hear this bird like calling in the background his dad's like yeah I got it from when he
was a kid what didn't know they live this way wait this the brain we all know yeah yeah he
got a his dad got him as a parent as a kid I don't I don't think it's a parent it's like
parent adjacent maybe a pair of keys but it's just okay but it's definitely not a
parakeed he's like he's like I had no idea they live as long or longer than humans so the kids
the kids left yeah they just have a bird still yeah I could see the agony on his face
like fucking thing just terrorizing you all fucking day yeah oh now we're pot oh god that
one sounded fake that's crazy great Joe I've only ever heard of people having parents and I've
heard of you get you should ask him if it's still alive I will talk to Brian a decent
mountain yeah online you still haven't jumped in the fuck shak dude text me what else also what's
your username in that I think it's it mr. boobs I think it's father okay yeah cuz I'm the
night one time I checked it and I just see all these names like I don't know any of these people
oh yeah yeah cuz we all have like aliases yeah so like I think I'm father Dom is gay adopted son
black gay adopted son Brian's something but then it's like when I when I first got in there
I just named everyone else like a different version of my son like retarded son or autistic son
okay son and I think Tim is abused bio dad don't remember how that happened all right but
anyway all right if I see father in there I'll check out yeah that are Dom's black just okay
up in there we're it's mostly us in there for the most part I don't know who mr. boobs is
the picture was hilarious it was always a doctor doctor Phil with tips yeah okay yeah okay we're
good I thought for sure those you know I'm not that cool I'm not that funny it's
unfortunately if we got that kind of pot goddamn elephant enters convenience store in Thailand eats
everything so I feel like this is something that I would have seen typically and not really cared
about but if you're in Thailand and you have a convenience store like you're a local mom similar
how like inner city if there'd be a lot of like local convenience stores were like this guy this
is his business this is all he owns if this falls out he has nothing and just to think that you're
in a convenience store the one you own and an elephant I saw the video of this but we just bust
down the doors and eats all of your inventory for the day just like we're like blowing shit going
in the fucking bridges and then just leaves and you're like hopefully explain like an insurance company
yeah it's like you worry about like natural disasters like theft from like people yeah that's such a
fuck you I guess that's more common yeah I got to imagine in Thailand but it can't be that common
right that elephant's like I'm going to the fucking store and you just have to deal with it like you
can't do anything yeah that sucks yeah I feel like elephants can't eat that fast though right
because they kind of grab stuff with their trunks yeah and just but they they can grab a lot of
some damage yeah I mean I it's probably got to be that situation more about the damage I would think
but it was eating stuff just full packs on my arms eating parts of the counter like it's just
fucking going to town it's just hilarious the videos insane thing as I I kind of love elephants
so I don't know how bad I feel for that guy kind of happy for the elephant yeah it's hilarious
you're the problem of this country yeah it is a being detached from it does maybe go like it's
just a fucking elephant like it's kind of cute it just wants food and there's this guy who can't
feed his kids anymore I mean there's that famous elephant that like I don't know what the reason
was but it like found this lady's funeral and like destroyed all the feet like you had to
bend dead out for this woman in Africa you've ever seen this video no I forgot what happened either
like she something happened with this elephant tribe in her were like she came across its
its baby I want it just it hated this woman and so what what did the lady do I don't remember but
she died and the elephant found her funeral going on and just destroyed every she doesn't deserve
respect yeah it's not a good one yeah this is on video holy shit well I mean the videos want I
feel like you see the video like a crazy elephant but there's a whole bad story like this name
been following her it's like the elephant John wicks yeah that's awesome but yeah it's they
do they're fucking they remember I guess they I people tell me they're smart yeah which again I
don't know how you I guess you can if you're around you're like oh these are smarter than dogs but
you ever when scientists put out these like this thing can remember stuff for 17 years you're like
but are like any of these metrics how the fuck you don't you don't know like I've heard that
about dogs too they're like dogs of a three-year memory it's like what memories is a dog forming
yeah doesn't make any sense all it just it recognizes me I feel like that's all it remembers yeah
it's like I know this person or I don't yeah beyond that I've who knows I mean again I guess it
remember when I went to that field that was awesome dude all questions I wish I had the answers I
have no idea yeah I don't think I don't think anyone can I'd like to extract what I'm but it's like
how do you even how how would I even know if it's remin I don't even know what it's thinking I would
have to know what like what it thinks about to start with to think I guess if you bring your dog
to the same dogs get excited for walks so they know I feel like they probably remember their walks
I'm with remembering but reminisce is like yeah that's another I don't know whether I don't know
animals think they self reflect that dude that's that I've heard that's one of the biggest arguments
in separation from like human consciousness yeah that's like another level of elections look at
past things with like a different view as opposed to just like we have a memory yeah dogs just
like man I shouldn't I shouldn't a bit that yeah I feel really bad about that goes on just a
tour giving seminars I will dogs do feel guilt I mean that's well documented like they know they
did something wrong yeah yeah that I think it goes to its room is like I fucked up yeah I'm so sorry
I mean it's funny there's a famous there's a video going around right now but like
these people take their dog to a doggy daycare or like a doggy daycare it must be consistently
enough and then they have a voice mail on their phone from the doggy daycare and the video is just
of the dog and like so this lady's like saying at home puts the voice mail on so it's the doggy daycare
person and the dog's in there it's like looking like this and once it hears the lady's voice he's like
oh shit and the way he's like yeah he's doing fine he's re-social but he just all he does is hump other
dogs and dogs like he's just a hamper and literally the dog hearing that like you know it looks like
it knows it's such a good video yeah it's just like all fucked dude I think they for sure know
tones like tones avoid they can tell of good or bad sure yeah based on how you're saying something
oh dude I'm just nice let her rip other funny animal story yeah this week in Chicago yeah a sheep
this the first of all I didn't know this happened but a sheep escaped from a butcher shop
and was just running around the streets okay I didn't know they had live sheep in downtown Chicago
yeah the I if I'm being honest didn't know that either but the only reason I go hmm kind of make
sense is I've heard of in New York they have entire like you can go get live chickens killed in
for like there's places to have live animals in the middle of the city that are mostly like
what you know when you have like a china town or you have like a spand like when they're
all these little sex of different cultures that have like they've stayed with what they do from like
Mexico or from China and all exist in one spot but now I'm wondering is that what a butcher shop
is like do all butcher shops have live animals typically no okay no I assume they would get me
shipped in yeah yeah you get it like syrton frozen or you get it it's usually butchered before you
get it right the ones I've been to I don't I've never there's definitely not live animals I don't
think I've ever been to a butcher shop really there's pretty good meat to like a local place there's
this Polish one back warm from and yeah but never live animals yeah I think that's a very like
it's crazy to have a sheep in the city in the morning to the sheep look so scared it literally
looks like a kidnap victim just escaped Jeffrey Dahmer's house yeah which is quite literally what
happened yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and then I read some reviews of the place okay so I was talking
about this wasn't just alone but people are like dude I can smell the blood when I walk in like
the shit is fresh yeah they're killing things there it's got a it's crazy that's insane dude yeah
fuck that it's kind of fucked up yeah it's it's nuts it always bring you back to like the would we
eat as much meat if you had to kill the thing you eat burgers to think about burgers you actually kill
a cut I mean number one that's to be hard I guess if you haven't gone yeah but it is just oh you're
saying if you had to kill all you have to kill all your food essentially but yeah be a be tough
or be a lot more friction to the process instead of just buying up just a little bit
uh cursed a subreddit makes me feel like we're just simulating God oh sounds deep
you've ever been on the subreddit called cursed AI no it's like the most her
people who are looking to make it do the most horrific things are on that subreddit so they
they'll prompt it I don't know what they're prompting there's someone they've like subverted
the rules around certain ones okay well they'll produce like full-scale horror movies or
situations that are like it is it's just it's the most insane thing you'll ever see in your entire life
I found what I've saved a handful because they're just like one number one they look cool because
I like horror you love that horror yeah and like just as insane but there's ones that are like
like the one I think of recently is the prompt must have been like find a future where humans and
machines it can truly bend one but humanity humanity has been lost from every human and
it's mostly machine and it's like it is the darkest most insane looking thing you'll ever see
in your entire life is it just videos that it makes yeah it's videos and it looks real it looks
so real it's crazy it's like yeah dude but every time I see it I think of like
if there is God or whatever made this created this that feels like we are God you're like literally
making this universe of yeah you're just living breathing claims that you're speaking it into
existence yeah it's it's bananas and when you see how like human and weird everything looks like
oh this feels feels wrong on some level but it's so cool dude I think we're like
maybe not even a year away from literally not being able to tell a difference yeah
I can barely do it now you have to really you gotta be like that looks weird and then fine
some inconsistency around the edge yeah or something but yeah it's fucking insane but we'll see
it's only getting better I mean dude I the place I work we've started leveraging Gen A I stuff to
the degree were like it's doing things that would have taken me like weeks to do yeah it's stupidly
insane I mean it makes me a better programmer but it's like I don't know man there was a couple
weeks ago when we first put this stuff in place we used this thing called Rue which is like has
all of these AI agents that can work as like an engineer an architect or a more debugging setting
like all these different guys and you can have them working unison or you can have them work
separately and I've fed it this problem that involves a really complex pipeline of data and it
spit out a model with them like it analyzed the entire pipeline and gave me a model that I'm like
that seemed to work as I needed it to and I was like fuck yeah man things were really good
taking our jobs yeah but at the same time it broke the first time I used it so nice it can like
think too hard it'll like because it'll take what you ask it and think and then it'll like create
a subtest be like okay I have to go look at this first to like make an ant test happen and so I got
so deep in subtest that it got back to the place of like what do you want what's going on
literally it was like what models do you want me to update yeah like no it's your job to find
the models in this folder and it was like I don't I don't know what to do yeah what I what I have
found is the AI that I've used is like very it's like a yes man it's like it's every question you
ask it's like yes certainly yeah it's always on yes here's the answer yeah and like often it's right
but then it's a lot of times it's not or it'll forget context from earlier and then you'll kind of
be in a loop of like it's like how do you not put all this together but yeah sure that'll be
worked out very soon I think so and I think like you just said I think for the most part it gets 98
percent things correct but it will have bias in your favor of like if you're talking to certain
wayers if you want certain things to happen because I've definitely had to be like no that's wrong
because there there was yeah I think it's called deep thing and they got rid of it but it was
like a research based one that was like asking to compile all this data on like supplementation
around vitamin D and long channel mega three is like what compile all the data that's available
and tell me the answers and like it things that I would ask it before and I would go like this is
probably right it now like proved itself wrong like no this is this bullshit huh so it's okay
but anyway so we talked to animal things lobster's mouth and what time do we got in sheep
30 okay we got time uh what else do we want to do we already talked about P Diddy
mostly peaceful applied to OJ Simpson what does that mean I don't know I don't know what that's
about how about legacy is bullshit that's a good one legacy yeah what do you think about it
actually what does it mean to you for when you think of legacy like I say you up here just
be like fuck you I'd say something beautiful you're just gonna sweat you leave behind I guess
after you die yeah that's I think that's correct now so what's your what's your opinion on it I guess
I mean I read the other part of your yeah kind of your props yeah you don't get to experience it
yeah right that's that's a downside big one I I feel like having a fear of not being remembered
is very common and that I don't get it all I don't give a shit about that yeah yeah but I do
I do get like wanting to like leave a family behind okay I feel like I get why that's important to people
I guess but also I don't I get yeah doesn't that one won't be there fall into the same trap is the first
point you made though of like this that is your that of just a different version of like being
remembered except it's the kind of is yeah yeah again I'm not one to say people who think that
way are wrong or right but it is and I even to play devil's advocate about what I'm about to say is
I think the mentality of wanting to leave a legacy has led people to some great innovation in places
from been like I need to leave something huge and has led to like them doing things to an insane
amount to leave some imprint like the things we remember about yeah typically were monumental and
impact some better for the than others Hitler you may be arming that not a good like a heck of a legacy
but this idea of like to me when I think of people remembering me I just like what I won't
not if it will matter once the lights are out let me fucking gone yeah like to me like
nothing sounds selfish but the only things that matter in this world are things that matter to us
whether it be you can't perceive anything else yeah so it's like and and I don't know it's
weird to be like I want this to matter to other people when it doesn't matter to me anymore because
even the person today who goes I want this to matter to other people it's because it matters to you
right now it's because then remembering you makes you feel good yeah you could argue that I
what about just like the I want to put something positive into the world like I want to I want to
make an impact on this person and then I want that person to take that and make an impact on someone
else and you know pay that forward maybe that gives you a good feeling I think that's great I
think that that's the best version of it yeah and I kind of see that with like having kids to it's
like I want to it's still my values in them sure and then they have that pass that down yeah I think
that's I think that's the best version but but as far as like I want to build a company that changes
the world like that I guess that would be kind of cool yeah because to your point if it's positive
then it's nice if you're like I want to leave something that makes this world a better place
that's because that kind of is selfless at that point right it kind of depends on your motivation
are you doing it to be in the history books and have your name never erased that would be like a
selfish motivation yeah yeah yeah but if you're doing it just to like leave your mark on the world
maybe slightly selfish to feel like you accomplish something but also on selfish to like
I don't know it just feel like you added something yeah I'd say it's it's a weird thing where I
think it's both are okay it can be selfish and it can be positive at the same time right I think
yeah the the wrong part for me is the part where people go I just want to do it for the sake of being
remembered and not benefiting like yeah you don't want infamy which I think some some people go for
that and then some of the people just do it truly for like I don't know they want to have they want
to be better than the rest which even in that situation if it ends up being positive I'm like
none who gives a shit yeah I mean the people who are purely like I don't I want people to
remember me it's like dude people are gonna forget like yeah everyone's gonna forget like two
generations does it take long do you think about even like we don't know people from 5,000
years ago yeah they're probably monumental people in those times that we have no idea there it doesn't
take that long for people to be wiped from memories at the current day right even even your own
family it's like I yeah I never met my grandpa even I hear stories about him I'm like that's nice
I like to hear that maybe I'll I would tell my kids about them but like they would stop there right
and then the older you get only two or three generations yeah yeah it takes a pretty big impact
for things to stick or it's weird if you're like and this price not a good instinct but like
things in the future in the past to a certain degree should not matter as much like the weight of
if if someone's two generations away from you in either direction like two generations dead I
should say not not living I feel like those things almost shouldn't apply unless there's like life
less than someone like they should matter to you yeah like I shouldn't be basing my actions off
of someone who was two generations either into the in the future doesn't matter but into the past
you know yeah live in the present thanks man sage advice I guess the case maybe for the past like
like yeah I never knew my grandpa don't think about him that much yeah but like he raised my dad
for sure my mom you know I'm sure they got something from him that they passed on to me so I guess
it's still there well yeah that's still within two generations though yeah so like I'm thinking
like in my head my great grandfather my great great grandfather no that shit matters to me yeah
and I'm like they did shit and then yeah I don't know but at the same time those thoughts don't
really come to me actively like yeah there's like no time I'm just sitting at my desk just
fuck my great great don't matter I'm alive now just point it out there just so you can hear it yeah
and then there's this separate thing of like legacy's in school systems which is just crazy
what do you mean by that like a lot of the fucking Ivy League schools you know about like the
legacy like you get in cuz you're getting because your dad was there your grand which is like
the craziest way to go about stuff I guess they're banking on the kid being just like royalty yeah
truly he's just banking on jeans which maybe there's something to be said there yeah probably a
little bit it's probably a little like a your smart person odds are your kids smart probably
bright I mean statistically yeah cuz you probably regardless of like from nature and nurture yeah
yeah which you have to one could assume that's going to happen but I still think it's a weird
system to have in place of like super weird super weird just get like all the other applicants
they're like high achieving just get subverted by some guy who went here like 1960 for something he
didn't do yes and probably one of those ways here to get in yeah it's a weird thing but two different
flavors as well so what do you want to leave a legacy do you care now that we talked about no
no shit I mean if I could leave a positive impure on the world but it's not something I'd be like
if I don't it's gonna bug me yeah yeah I think I think and this is my own bullshit I think we're
just put here to there's there's we all have a purpose to some degree or another and I think you
can either lean fully in and do great things and I think everybody has a capacity or you can not
and either way is truly great it's just like this is this is get you live in life either way
yeah yeah spend it how you want and regardless of all you know I want to get Christian about because
I'm not think I'm a devout Christian or anything but this idea that like if we are created by something
and this thing is it's love to us is absolute free will then our existence of living do what we want
grand there's varying degrees of what we I feel like we have an innate moral compass to some degree
so like we when we see someone get killed we're not elated by someone dying but I think if we
lean in the direction of doing not terrible things in general then this is it that's good if you
yeah yeah just just not doing horrible things that's pretty good yeah I think as long as you're
not being a bad person pretty solid you're doing better you're just doing what you should be doing
in this time here again this is my theory bullshit none of this could make any sense no I'm with
you on there's at least some innate moral compass you ever think about how easy it is to just do
something horrible like horrifying yeah but I think also that there's a I shouldn't say a lot but
we know that there's consequence too but I was so there's a selfish motivation there but I
I lean towards what you say though more in that like it feels better to be good like it yeah I
would make the art and you are demented like unless you're a Jeffrey Dahmer who from a young age
you get abused in your wires crossed and then you're getting sexually aroused by horrendous things
except for those rare cases I think most people it feels good to do good and bad to do bad and so
and even even if that's self-at-like doing good makes people like you which feels good yeah it's
like so I don't know as you've gotten older I have because when I was younger I did a lot of bad stuff
and the dark side and as I've gotten older it's like the good things lead to better outcomes which
you could crunch that to physical statistical stuff or you could put in this like more I don't know
ethereal realm of philosophical yeah spiritual but like generally the more good I do the better my life
is anyway you want to cut it whether it be through helping other people doing something for myself
that's you know productive or good it's like everything gets better in that direction the second
you start doing things that are hurting other people or hurting yourself it gets worse it just does
and that's again my lived experience but I would imagine almost everyone living on this earth
has experienced those directions in different degrees it's like you volunteer for something like
oh my god this feels great it's the best feeling you'll ever have I yeah I didn't want to do this at all
yeah and then the second that ripples to how many different people like that not to get all butterfly
that's your legacy yeah just to fucking volunteer and help yeah I mean I would advocate for everybody
go do it I mean it's it's one of those things that I always I'll go online and look at
opportunities for volunteering I'd be like fucking not ready yet nope tired not today not doing it
but it is that thing of like you could truly go work at a soup kitchen and make someone someone who's
homeless changes their entire life because they got a meal that day yeah like just small things like
that could change and that guy could go on become the next Hitler and then we're all good oh yeah let
that guy die wait a second you don't get any soup today look a little Hitler you just got the
stash that was that was beautiful for a second but really really tripped up that court dude you know
I I haven't valedict this that why Hitler had that must that or why that message was common
that was just normal wasn't it I think World War One when they had to wear gas masks a standard
mustache would cause an issue with the seal and say that Hitler was in World War One there's a
generation of people who like had to make that kind of kind of probably became like a the side of
respect like you fought the war like you which again haven't validated but it is a unique choice
that mustache I'm gonna tell three people before you validate thank god until they got the soup kitchen
well great all right let's see what else we got oh cash Patel uh we could talk about him or not
cash Patel your friend no no trip yeah it is crazy I have a friend named cash Patel
that's yeah it's just more government crap um buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh
another hur well this is the most right got more animal stuff yeah I was just about to see
the chickens legs yep yeah yeah yeah apparently I didn't know this I knew that like we
mutate we do terrible things to the conventional chickens in this country like growing them
but I didn't know that at two months it is standard for their legs to break from their weight
like it's not before GMOs no no no this is all that's from what we did
them filled with shit but at two months their legs just break there's no like this just kind of
happens is like oh no no like most of them are not moving because their legs break at two months
and then they just kill them they kill them yeah for food oh yeah this is like a like giant
fucking meat plants cheese well like there's literally just you just get to a certain age that
you're so fat that your legs break yeah their legs are tiny dude they're literally chicken
legs that would be like if we we got you to 1500 pounds and your legs snap and then that's your
life the chickens that we know are fucking insane like they're a normal chicken is just like a normal
looking bird yeah dude they're like the the breasts that we get they can get like Walmart you're so
you do you get like fill in entire center plate with just the breast it's nuts but yeah talk about
if anything's hell on earth it's those situations oh yeah I hope we can make that better
sometimes soon because like just live breeding things just like oh it's just hell we truly see
them as just objects yeah which yeah do you know chickens cost like seven bucks like a
like a live chicken from where where you looking at chicken prices my sister has them I don't know
oh okay I mean that's a good source she has like 10 chickens they cost less than a carton of eggs
in some days forever yeah oh shit gotta get some chickens yeah they keep dying too like animals
get in their pan and just oh just fucking ravage like foxes and raccoons yeah actually
raccoons probably wouldn't do anything right they don't have a raccoon something fox fox for sure fox
in the chicken hen what else do we got gray come up for air your hands are stretched to
homeless guy I don't know I do what that is oh this is a funny one though I forgot who I was
listening to who's talking about this but you know the whole phrase hung like a horse yeah until
like a guy has a giant dick if you do the actual horse calculations hung like a horse is an
average person's dick right compared to its body yeah yeah yeah like a horse is literally just like
I guess in the situation if you're saying hung like a horse you're saying that it's relative to
the human body it's a horse cock yeah which is insane yeah if you have a horse guy they're like
20 it's like as long as your arm yeah dude I mean yeah it's a big cock it is crazy to
who did that math I don't know I forgot I was listening to but it's literally just like the the
horse having the 20 inch cock it has the equivalent of having like a three inch dick as like an
average man so it's actually a small smaller than average dick on a horse okay so it's an insult
to be hung like a small dick horse yeah that's calling someone hung like a horse and yeah they
don't know you're like got them they have no clue oh dude have you ever done this have you ever
had a charge that you've disputed on your credit card that you've actually paid for like it wasn't
a fucking fraudulent thing oh I disputed one thing why and it was like some some gift I got I think
like I got my mom for Mother's Day it's like flowers or something and I think I dispute
as something and then like right after I was like oh I think I actually bought that
oh okay so it was a mistake yeah yeah but they gave me the money anyway which was awesome pretty
tight right yeah so I was you're talking about yeah yeah yeah because I've I've never done it on
purpose I've done that situation and I've done it for fraud before we're like someone bought like a
fucking TV with my credit card yeah but I wonder how long you can go disputing stuff until your
credit card because you can like just you can straight like if I go to Best Buy today and I buy
something for four thousand dollars and I go no I didn't fucking buy that they would definitely not
pay it I have wonder how long they would ask some questions for a bigger purchase like the thing
I disputed was pretty small it's like charge it bucks yeah yeah so there is probably a dollar amount
that they're like hold on a second yeah we can't just let you fucking have it but is it's such a
weird because in my head it's like once I pay for it there's no way to like undo that
oh aside from returning the item but it's hilarious be like go home have it and go to my credit it's
almost like you have like a mob guy be like no or he's not fucking paying you because like the
credit card was like no not doing that yeah you probably do that for a lot of small things so they
just eat that caught yeah I feel like they must I wonder if that factors into your credit score actually
if you keep disputing things probably like if you have a good credit score and you dispute something yeah
that must factor in if they like give you that or not maybe because the fraud one I feel like
is where most disputes come from but for someone got their credit card stolen they go I'm not I
didn't fucking do that yeah but then also because then if it's not for all you think most disputes are
people lying no I think most disputes are our fraud was committed on them someone
brought something with their credit card they go I didn't pay for that I think yeah it's got to
be a dollar amount thing so I got to imagine if I go to a best buy and I go I'm not paying like a
pay with credit card not paying for that I doubt they're gonna like chase me down for 40 bucks
some like that but also with Amazon customer service if you get something you're like do there's
a little dang on the side of this they'll just fucking refund you dude I had which is awesome I think
I've told you this they sent me I bought Dyson vacuum they sent me accidentally two and I went
hey you guys sent me an extra one they're like all right we'll give you a box to return it never
sent that follow up again like hey I still have this vacuum like oh it says you shipped it I was like
I didn't they're like well it says it shipped it it's like yeah the rep doesn't care I was like oh
okay and then I just got there's like a six hundred dollar fucking vacuum they just sold
to some guy on Facebook marketplace oh nice yeah like they have so much money yeah I mean not to
be all marketing and capitalism but that's what you get when you get extremely successful companies
you get customers yeah that's awesome so when you have monies that have
or monies you have companies that have so much money and do so good by the customer you get
customer service and that's part of their brand like they are that indirectly does make the money
because their their brand is so good people love Amazon it's almost like doing good things
legacy fuck that's their legacy yeah dude that's fucking bananas all right we probably got time for
one more let's make it a good one make it a banger yeah well you still haven't found a banger for us
man I've put so much government stuff in here towards the top Libya one line Libya
tell me about Libya I mean it's the whole it's a government thing there's this
impolitics they call it the Libya example or the Libya blueprint we're like
Libya is apparently the the reason why all these companies like you fucking makes this shit up
why all these countries they need to have nuclear weapons otherwise they get invaded
I was at the Mohmari Qadafi thing yeah yeah okay that was it so like literally the the second
they got rid of their nuclear weapons the leader gets killed and then everybody invades them
and so that that's it's now known in the political sphere and the historical spheres like the Libya
I think it's the blue printer example or whatever but it's like you have to have some deterrent
there's even uh it's either Murray Rothbard or Milton Freeman who says because whenever we get to
these places of like how much how big an army should a country have because of this whole idea of
like free market and capitalism it's like well how much force can't should we be able to apply
and I've heard again camera of the economist but he says if you just had a country with a handful
of nuclear submarines as we do now you wouldn't need any army ever because it is no one is going to
do anything when there's nuclear weapons just appear deterrence yeah because number one people you
can't find nuclear submarine so you never know where they are yeah for other countries obviously
and so if you have those no one will do anything you do not need an army do you believe that
yeah I mean it's what about Russia Ukraine like
Russia could just wipe them out completely Ukraine got rid of all of its nuclear weapons I know
well so yeah that's not the best example but I feel like right a point where the deterrence is so
I feel like we're both using deterrence and also calling each other's bluffs at the same time
to where like normal war can kind of resume because it's like you're not going to fucking
nuke us but we can still do military stuff well I would say the second that a country invades
another country nuclear weapons then I can hear that argument out but till this day but it hasn't
had it hasn't had it has happened so the the deterrent has proved itself since nuclear weapons have
been put in place the cold war was cold because of it yeah this continued since the cold war
where no nuclear power has ever invaded another nuclear power so everyone needs nukes yeah I think so
at this I just don't think I don't think humanity's in a place where you can get rid of them because
someone will build them and then they will start invading countries that don't have them I mean
that situation has played out over all right let's imagine a world where everyone has nukes yeah
you think war just stops yeah all the wars that have happened in the past I mean since the
cold war even had been all involving countries that don't have nuclear weapons again you can't
find a situation where a country had nuclear weapons and there was any information I'm just trying
all right let's imagine imagine Ukraine had nukes the whole time yeah Russia invades I mean they
would be much less likely to invade but say they do okay how what does it take for Ukraine to
actually drop a new column these are a lot these are we don't know right yeah no it's interesting
yeah I think again and also like especially a neighboring country you got systems in place
that say hey as soon as Ukraine launches missiles we're scattering countermeasures we're also
scattering our own nukes the whole mutual you sure destruction thing that we're all kind of we've
been living in since they've been put in place and and both sides know that those systems exist
yeah kind of means both sides might not do it well like you're gonna hesitate even if there's
an invasion again I would bank on the last 50 years that there has been most first-world countries
have nuclear weapons and there hasn't been a nuclear weapon launch since World War II yeah and
there has been there's there's definitely conflicts between countries that have nuclear weapons but
no one has done any military action right yeah we China's arrival but holy shit we're not
kind of no because I think at the core of if you're leading a country the I think the main fear
with the nuclear stuff is that if like a extremely underdeveloped country somehow got a hold of
nuclear weapons that they don't understand the consequence and they're willing to blow it all
away but it takes a good heavy amount of like research and science and resources to get to a
place where we have a functioning nuclear facility yeah you're not a barbarian with a nuke you're
not an afghanist like you're not like you know sam up in ladden doesn't get to a place where he's
developed nuclear weapons it's just not and a site to launch them from animals that can traverse
like defense systems like that's just it's it's it's a weird thing that there's a barrier to entry
for nuclear facilities that typically when you get there you have the understanding of what it can do
and the consequence that follows so again I can be totally wrong and it could be that at one point
a country launches it and then it's all over but so far it's never happened yeah no it's that's a
great point and I again I hope that that's the case I do it's I I'm fully on board that if you
crane still had nuclear weapons this whole Ukraine rush war would have never had yet night I believe
that yeah but then you could also say like all it takes is one like like 99.99% of people countries
leaders are going to be responsible with nukes but one guy is crazy enough to push the button dude
if you heard of the story of Richard Nixon who ordered new king of a country yeah he was drunk
yeah he was drunk yeah and the operators were like yeah right now Kissinger was like one good thing
that guy's crazy too but he's like I'm gonna wait till morning did not bomb a country like
imagine if he didn't have that guy yeah that's the US too I know I know I mean we had the
Cuban Missile Crisis where we are like literally same kind of situation where we're so close
to doing that and we're like yeah but but here's the thing Pandora's boxes are already open
nuclear weapons aren't going away I don't know there's this whole sense of the cold war there's
been a commission yeah there's been it where like people have gotten but there's still tens of
thousands of nuclear what like no one is giving them up I don't think and anytime somebody does
another country invades them so I just I think we can't put it back now I don't unless we hit some
no absolutely yeah so it's like if I believe we could I think I believe we've de-escalated I feel like
that has worked like there's less nukes in their were at like the height of the cold war but yeah
absolutely because I think I also don't know like everyone could be keeping the secret oh I think
there's good enough commissions and systems in place that we know tracking these things that
yeah because I think during the cold war at the height there was like we're talking tens of
thousands per Russia and per United States and that's not talking about other countries either
so I think by now there's maybe in the 10,000s in general but even then it's like dude until it's
sub 10 nothing makes a difference if there's thousands of nuclear warheads it's like dude you want
to hundred those you want to blow up the universe yeah it's like we're not it's like they're big enough
now it's a number of nukes doesn't really matter as much well I'm just saying that there's we're
not even close to the number that would like de-escalation it doesn't matter until you're close to
stand yeah but but even then I'm out of fucking physicists yeah it's just like anywhere near the
thousands there's been no de-escalation there's been less but the the threat of nuclear damage to
the universe and blowing at the planet still very there there's a documentary called command and control
guys about I think during the height of the Cold War yeah um some nuclear facility in Arkansas I think
it nuclear war like active nuclear warheads engineers working on them yeah
a dude some service technician drops a wrench and he's like in the chamber with the warhead
drops a wrench falls like multiple stories is all underground yeah bounces hits the fuel tank
starts filling up with fuel it's it's like a disaster story okay eventually the the
fucking nuclear warhead explodes and launches literally it I don't remember where landed it landed
in a desert somewhere but it was like a coin toss of if it exploded it would have wiped out the
entire south wait what the entire south yes no to their huge dude no way because yes they've been
testing these things in the desert in Las Vegas like they test them they test them in the ocean too
yeah it wouldn't take out the entire south one good chunk of this I think they said like a third of
the country would have been blown up no what I want to look up this story because I from my
understanding again and my understanding is literally just reading stuff online watching these
test views like they they test them in parts of the country so I have to imagine that they're not
if it was going to blow up a third of the south would be and that's they're that much stronger
I think they got pay once I don't know I should verify if that if that's true that's a proud so
that that's a case for less nuke's that's what I'm getting like if there's so many one fuck up
could be insane yeah but that but again then it's the tradeoff thing of like okay we can have
that fuck up but then we can also have a world where lot of war yeah no one's gonna right like
it's if you look at the trajectory of how much wars existed in humanity overall this is the time
where there's the least amount of war by far it's beautiful yeah and it's mostly due to nuclear
weapons unfortunately so that is the reason it's not some we're more altruistic and better it's
because there's so much deterrent there was she might took one for the team dude truly and
Nagasaki and Nagasaki they both everyone was like oh okay we're we're not going to do that again
because it's pretty bad yeah yeah well that's a good way then that's a good one all right well
we'll see you next week see you next week bye bye