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POV: You Don't Know What POV Means

Episode 25 · 2026-04-08 · 10,676 words
In this episode, the hosts dive into the awkward social dynamics of choosing a godfather, rant about the misuse of the term 'POV' online, and discuss the irony of saying 'I'm humbled' when receiving an award. They also touch on healthcare regulations and the impact of extreme diets.

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[0:00] Man, we're back to another episode of the Fake Problems podcast.

[0:05] What up?

[0:06] How's it going, man?

[0:09] Going well.

[0:10] I thought those were tourical.

[0:12] I know, I know.

[0:15] It is true.

[0:16] There's a level of kind of, uh, fagginess in the beginning.

[0:20] I didn't even hear your intro.

[0:21] I'm just so used to it.

[0:22] You're just fucking your in it.

[0:23] Yeah.

[0:24] I always feel awkward starting them.

[0:25] I don't know how to start.

[0:27] Well, it's like we're like resimulating conversations that have already had like, it's

[0:30] not like I'm walking the door and I'm going, you write it like we just immediately start

[0:33] for it.

[0:34] Maybe we should do that.

[0:34] We should just sit right down and get on the mic.

[0:39] No words.

[0:40] Yeah.

[0:40] No.

[0:43] Just traveling.

[0:44] Not on each other.

[0:45] Just.

[0:45] Sit down, start recording.

[0:47] I think at a certain point we'll get it to where we don't even, we just, we just, I

[0:50] enter, sit down, go.

[0:54] Cut out all the bullshit pre-conversation.

[0:55] I feel like a lot of the big ones start where they, they're like talking and then they

[1:00] just like flip it up.

[1:01] At least it sounds like, are we recording now?

[1:03] Oh fuck, oh yeah.

[1:04] That's like that whole thing they do.

[1:06] Okay.

[1:07] Anyway, we're back.

[1:09] Let's open up with a good one.

[1:12] How many friends make their friend the godfather of their child and then don't return the

[1:17] favor.

[1:19] I think about this because I've seen it.

[1:21] I've seen people who go, you're going to be the god, they asked their friend.

[1:25] I want you to be the godfather and then the other friend has a kid and they don't ask

[1:31] them to be the godfather.

[1:34] Yeah.

[1:35] First of all, is that kind of a dying thing naming a godfather?

[1:39] I don't know.

[1:41] I feel like a lot of people don't do that anymore.

[1:43] Yeah, because didn't it, doesn't like the real part of it that like if your parents died,

[1:49] they supposedly the old rule was that your godfather would take care of you then.

[1:53] Yes.

[1:53] And it's like raise you in the faith.

[1:57] That's the point.

[1:58] So you're supposed to pick like a religious role model or someone you think will uphold

[2:02] that which I have to do.

[2:04] That's just declining.

[2:06] Intoxicated.

[2:07] But I have had friends who've gotten married or not married, who've had a kid and have

[2:13] named a godfather though.

[2:14] Okay.

[2:14] Because they're Christian, Catholic, that they're all about that should.

[2:19] But it is...

[2:22] There is a rule of reciprocity there.

[2:24] It feels weird if you just don't do it back.

[2:29] Yeah.

[2:30] And I don't know.

[2:32] I mean, it is your kid so you decide.

[2:35] But it's a sweet title to have.

[2:38] Oh, yeah, the godfather.

[2:39] Yeah.

[2:40] That movie series made it cool for a totally different reason.

[2:44] For sure.

[2:45] Yeah.

[2:46] But it is a...

[2:48] I don't know.

[2:49] It is one of those things of like...

[2:52] It has to come up if you're friends with somebody.

[2:55] And like, they're like, oh yeah, your kid's got five and they have a kid and they're like,

[2:59] yeah, I got Jim's.

[3:01] My kid's godfather.

[3:03] Like, what?

[3:04] Well, if you do go the religious perspective, like maybe they don't think that you're that

[3:09] person that would like...

[3:11] That's hurtful.

[3:12] Yeah.

[3:12] I get that everyone has the right to do whatever.

[3:16] But man would it hurt if I go, hey man, can you be the godfather for my child?

[3:21] And then you're like, hell yeah.

[3:22] You don't want to a bad kid.

[3:23] And you have a kid and you're like, yeah, I would never have you as the godfather's

[3:26] man.

[3:26] My kid.

[3:27] Which it's like almost assuming that...

[3:31] I don't know.

[3:32] It's like almost like you don't...

[3:33] It makes me feel like you don't know the friend as well as you do.

[3:37] Kind of.

[3:38] Like after was that mismatch there?

[3:39] Yeah.

[3:40] Cause I would like to imagine.

[3:41] Like taking it from the perspective of just like someone who will take over if your

[3:46] parents die.

[3:47] Yeah.

[3:48] Yeah, there's totally be a rest prostate there.

[3:50] Or I would expect there to be.

[3:52] If you're that close, we're someone asked the other person.

[3:55] Right.

[3:55] And they accept.

[3:56] That's the thing too.

[3:58] Yeah.

[3:58] Cause like if someone asked me and I'm like, not like, I wouldn't be like, oh yeah, this

[4:02] person should be the godfather of my kid.

[4:04] I don't think I would accept it.

[4:07] Yeah.

[4:07] Cause if you truly felt that way.

[4:09] Yeah.

[4:09] Cause I feel like you have to be very close.

[4:12] Like I'd have to be at best friend level to be like, yeah, I'll be the godfather of your

[4:16] kid.

[4:18] Granted, the reality of the burden probably doesn't come to happen.

[4:22] But I'm still like the guy of your, like I'm in your child's life in some form.

[4:29] Yeah.

[4:30] At least my own experience with it.

[4:33] Like I had a godfather and a godmother.

[4:36] Sure.

[4:36] Like neither of them would have taken over if something happened to my parents.

[4:40] Well, they're homeless people.

[4:42] I mean, no, like my, so my aunt who has now passed away, but she, she was my godmother.

[4:53] Okay.

[4:54] Absolutely did not have the means to support me.

[4:56] Sure.

[4:57] Sure.

[4:57] Like I would have, I would have gone to a different family member before her.

[5:01] So for me, it kind of felt like symbolic, not really an actual burden to that person.

[5:08] Gotcha.

[5:08] It's just a nice thing.

[5:10] You're my sister.

[5:11] Yeah.

[5:11] Yeah.

[5:12] You should be a godmother of my child.

[5:14] But I actually don't know.

[5:16] Is there any legal standing with that title?

[5:19] I don't think so.

[5:20] Are you obligated to take over if something happened?

[5:23] About I don't think so.

[5:24] It could be wrong.

[5:25] I don't think so.

[5:26] I think it's truly just to your point of religious thing.

[5:28] Because I mean, it's like what?

[5:31] Bap during baptism.

[5:32] Like my godfather was there during my baptism.

[5:35] Yeah.

[5:36] So I don't know.

[5:38] But at the same time, I think my godfather does well, but I barely know it.

[5:43] Like beyond when I was a kid, I don't know my godfather at all.

[5:46] It's just my dad's best friend from childhood.

[5:49] Yeah.

[5:50] I barely know.

[5:53] I don't know who my godfather is actually.

[5:57] I know I have one.

[5:58] Hey, what really?

[5:59] I forgot who it is.

[6:00] Yeah.

[6:02] Have you ever met him?

[6:04] No, I know it's like one of my uncles.

[6:07] I don't know which one it is.

[6:11] It's one of them.

[6:12] You have any of them?

[6:13] Yeah.

[6:13] I mean, that's hilarious to be like, I know I got one.

[6:19] No idea.

[6:20] No idea.

[6:21] I do know I have one.

[6:23] You have to get your dad online.

[6:24] I'm like, who the fuck is my godfather?

[6:29] But yeah.

[6:29] So anyway, if I ever get into the situation, I think I'll, I think I would try to do to someone

[6:35] who would also do it to me.

[6:36] Yeah.

[6:37] Like, I've known Dahmer like one of my friends, oh, I just said his name.

[6:41] One of my friends from home, granted.

[6:43] We don't know each other well enough for me.

[6:45] I probably would be like, joys should be, oh my god.

[6:47] I'll do it, dude.

[6:48] I'll say everyone's names.

[6:49] You ask me now?

[6:50] No, I'm saying I wouldn't do for you.

[6:51] Come on, dude.

[6:52] I love you.

[6:53] But it's that we have an, I don't know what you're doing.

[6:55] You're downtime.

[6:56] I'm reading the present son.

[6:57] I do crazy stuff.

[6:59] You'd be out of control.

[7:00] Yeah.

[7:00] But it's like, I would need to have known some for almost all of my life.

[7:03] Yeah.

[7:03] To be like, sounds.

[7:05] Yeah, yeah.

[7:05] You can take care of my kid if I fucking die.

[7:09] But like logistically, don't you, you have a brother and a sister.

[7:15] Yeah.

[7:15] Don't you think it would go to them?

[7:17] Even if you name someone else.

[7:21] I guess I don't know.

[7:22] I don't know.

[7:23] I think it's very family dependent.

[7:25] Yeah.

[7:26] Because like my sister's younger.

[7:28] Maybe that's the point of the thing.

[7:29] That's why it exists.

[7:31] Like you should name a person.

[7:33] I think so.

[7:33] It's not the obvious choice.

[7:35] Yeah, because right, truly right now, I would probably go non-family.

[7:41] Yeah.

[7:41] If I had to give some of the godfathers, if we're going by the rules of Godfather, I would

[7:44] give a friend, not family, that role.

[7:48] And it's a big burden.

[7:49] But I don't think anyone of my family could take that.

[7:54] Also me dying and having a child to take care of his crazy.

[7:57] Yeah.

[7:58] Have a kid first.

[7:59] Yeah, before dying.

[8:02] I can freeze my sperm and then have it after I've been dead.

[8:05] Ooh.

[8:07] That'd be cool.

[8:08] What did?

[8:11] Okay.

[8:13] On that same note, it's kind of similar to someone if you have someone you're wetting.

[8:18] Yeah.

[8:18] Oh, yeah.

[8:19] You're not in theirs.

[8:21] That's going to happen, I think.

[8:24] And I'm kind of like, super awkward.

[8:28] Yeah.

[8:30] Yeah.

[8:31] I have a couple people I can think of that I've been in their weddings and I came as a surprise

[8:36] honestly.

[8:37] I'm like, you sure?

[8:40] You don't need to be up there.

[8:41] But also kind of sad to use a speech to like how not many good friends people have.

[8:46] If I'm interpreting the relationship like, oh yeah, we're just casual, but they're interpreting

[8:51] like, this is a close friend.

[8:54] It's kind of fucked up.

[8:55] Yeah, that's kind of sad.

[8:56] Yeah.

[8:57] But also there's other people too that I've been in their weddings that there's reasons

[9:02] I have people that are higher priority than them in terms of.

[9:05] Right.

[9:05] It's like I still love the person.

[9:07] Yeah.

[9:07] But it's like probably not.

[9:09] Yeah.

[9:09] Like last person I stood in their wedding, I probably won't have them in my party.

[9:14] But it's like, they're great.

[9:17] But there's, I don't want to have 18 dudes standing next to me up there.

[9:22] True.

[9:23] Yeah.

[9:24] Super awkward.

[9:24] You just rank people in your life for wedding parties.

[9:29] Yeah.

[9:30] But like that one's like a, I don't know because it's like, you got the best man who's

[9:36] the number one and the rest of them are what it's like, it could be any group of bros.

[9:41] Yeah.

[9:41] And it's like, they're all, those guys are typically pretty equal.

[9:45] But there's, I feel like it comes down to it more than not of like the who's competing

[9:49] for best man.

[9:51] Because it's a bigger.

[9:52] Yeah.

[9:52] Which of you, because my one friend who was going to get married, who broke up with

[9:56] his fiance was like, he wanted me, do you want to have two best man?

[10:01] He want to have me and this other friend who has gone on to live with his ex fiance.

[10:09] So we know who won that one.

[10:12] But he was, it was going to be that whole thing.

[10:14] Or it's like, yeah, it's a new age.

[10:15] You give us a fuck about the rules.

[10:16] Yeah.

[10:17] You know, we never as many as we want.

[10:18] But who fucking knows anyway?

[10:22] Onward from the Godfather.

[10:25] Uh, but, but, but, but, but, but.

[10:30] I feel like we talked about con laws and I feel weird if we, I guess maybe let's just

[10:35] talk about it.

[10:35] If it's a repeat, whatever.

[10:38] So con laws, which stand, con is an acronym for Certificate of Necessity, I believe,

[10:44] uh, in 1961, I think they were established where, and I should point out today in the

[10:52] United States, they're still in about half of the nation.

[10:56] I think it's 23 separate states that have these rules in place.

[11:00] But what they are, and this kind of ties in for anyone listening who cares about healthcare,

[11:07] which everyone I feel like has gone through some healthcare experience, uh, essentially

[11:13] in each state, there's a board that decides if a hospital can be allowed into a specific

[11:21] area.

[11:22] So say there's an open patch of land or a lot, a hospital goes, hey, if you want to set

[11:27] up a hospital here, we see that there's a need.

[11:29] Let's bring a hospital.

[11:32] The government has created regulatory boards that need to approve the certificate of necessities

[11:39] as you can probably understand that mean that, oh, this area needs a hospital, right?

[11:45] What has happened is that in the states that these remain and historically since they've

[11:50] been made, those regulatory boards have been filled up with members of hospitals that

[11:58] have already been established in the area, meaning that when there's another hospital,

[12:03] another competitor that wants to get a chance in the market in that state, they have to

[12:08] go up against their competition that's sitting on a regulatory board saying, why do I need

[12:13] you here?

[12:14] And more than not, the board denies competition, which in result, do you have any information

[12:21] on how often, how frequently they get denied versus approved?

[12:25] No, not the percentages, but if you just look up or con laws and fraud, you'll find a

[12:31] lot of examples of, there's societies that really need another hospital.

[12:37] And the board says flat out, either they'll just keep them tagging along for a long time

[12:44] and make them spend all this money on board approvals and keeping life and then they'll

[12:48] deny it flat out so they drain the competitor of money and then they deny them.

[12:54] And it happens more than not with these things because again, it's a lesson in human

[13:00] behavior.

[13:01] If you have a market and you have the right to deny people access and you're trying to

[13:06] better the company you work for, you're going to choose to better the company.

[13:10] Survival and stuff.

[13:10] Yeah, you'd have to be truly altruistic to go, oh yeah, I'm going to let this compare

[13:15] they could potentially destroy my business in.

[13:18] And those laws are in place again in half of the country.

[13:22] So was the original intent was like you need to express your need, prove your need, I

[13:29] guess, to build a hospital in this area, right?

[13:32] Yes, let's walk through the situation where no board exists because this is what I imagined

[13:38] has happened is that you have, you have a town, right?

[13:43] A hospital exists there.

[13:45] The need is met for hospital.

[13:47] Say another investor comes in and goes, we want to build another hospital competitor and

[13:51] the town goes, we don't need another hospital.

[13:54] And what happened is probably they built another hospital.

[13:57] There's an oversaturated market.

[13:59] One of the hospital systems die, but in the meantime, people go, well, we could have

[14:04] built something else there.

[14:05] We could have been another business.

[14:06] Sure.

[14:08] I understand that grievance, right?

[14:10] That's understandable, but that when you make it so that in that situation, one hospital dies.

[14:21] Because if there's not enough customers coming to one hospital, they just won't make enough

[14:26] money.

[14:27] Like any business, it will fall apart.

[14:30] In the government situation, it's the very common thing of like we had an instance of

[14:35] a thing here, let's make a sweeping generalization to all areas.

[14:39] Because more than not, there's so many factors to this.

[14:43] If a hospital is going to take a chance on an area, they know that there's risk, but

[14:49] they don't want to take a chance where they're going to.

[14:51] So you also want to prove the need first, right?

[14:53] That's what I'm saying.

[14:54] Like you don't agree your own health, not like just to get approved.

[14:58] Yeah.

[14:58] If you're going to start a business somewhere, you want to go and knowing.

[15:02] Yeah.

[15:02] There's a base to support you and you'll survive.

[15:05] Well, that's the thing.

[15:06] Businesses don't want to fail.

[15:08] You're trying to make it like you don't want to go into a market where you know that it's

[15:10] going to be oversaturated.

[15:12] And it's like it's almost like adding the government being like, no, we know where the

[15:17] markets need to have hospitals.

[15:19] It creates this distortion that the outcome of that is just monopolies.

[15:23] Because you have the situation that I described before of, hospital systems going, no, you can't

[15:28] come in here.

[15:28] When there might be a great need for a hospital, they just go, no.

[15:32] And then that hospital can charge as much as they want.

[15:38] It happened.

[15:38] I mean, I can go on and on about policies like this, but it happens.

[15:42] You know, we had the California Forest fires recently that burnt down like the palisades

[15:45] and all that shit and people were like, oh my god, the fucking insurance policies and

[15:49] all this stuff.

[15:50] And it's like, they don't cover anything.

[15:52] And if you drill into that a little bit, California has a long history of making the bare

[15:59] minimum bar as an entry to be an insurance company that covers for those things very high.

[16:06] So at a glance, you go, oh, it's great that like insurance companies have to have this

[16:11] amount of coverage and this amount of stuff.

[16:13] But what it does is it cuts out all of the competition that doesn't have the capital

[16:17] to do those things.

[16:18] Because those regulations, they cost money in a business.

[16:21] You can't just say like, oh, yeah, small companies have to be able to act like big companies.

[16:26] Have to offer coverage for X, Y and Z and all these things.

[16:29] What happens when you make those is that you just get all the small companies cut out

[16:34] and only the big companies remain, which can they have all the control entirely.

[16:39] And then they can go, we're not giving you coverage.

[16:40] Or we're going to charge you premiums that are insane and the people go, oh my god,

[16:44] these big corporations fucking with us.

[16:46] And it's just no, the regulation you've eliminated all of the small competitors.

[16:49] Every business is just try to survive, right?

[16:52] Yeah.

[16:52] Given the rules that are in place.

[16:54] Yes.

[16:56] So back to something you said previously, you also said those boards that decide if you

[17:02] have a valid need to be in an area or filled with the competition.

[17:08] Was that I'm assuming that wasn't the original intents?

[17:11] Did that just happen?

[17:12] No, as with most of these regulations, there's always this idea of like the perfect man being on the board.

[17:19] The guy who's detached from business interest and who is also this guy who seeks for good.

[17:23] It's always almost, oh, I should say there's the government is in void of malicious intent,

[17:28] but it seems more than not the intent is, yes, we'll have the perfect human in place

[17:33] to decide equally among these things.

[17:36] And what happens is that humans become humans and they get offered money interest

[17:42] and other things through those things, through those positions, and it just corrupts it entirely.

[17:47] Should there be some rule that says you can't be a CEO of a hospital and on this board?

[17:53] Yeah.

[17:54] Yeah.

[17:56] Just like how there should be rules that a sender can be paid money from companies.

[18:01] But then like say say that's in place and some other guy is sitting on the board.

[18:06] Like he can still be bought, right?

[18:08] But entirely, which that happens all the time.

[18:11] The lesson a lot of these things is that you're concentrating power through a regulatory board,

[18:18] through a sender writing policy, you're taking power and you're making it more focused to smaller amounts of people.

[18:25] It always ends up bad.

[18:27] Yeah.

[18:28] I'm not saying there should be toll and arki, but when you start to have the few deciding for the many,

[18:33] it makes for way more consequence that people ignore entirely.

[18:38] They go, we're solving this focused problem right here in this time frame and ignore everything about

[18:45] if we make this decision, what are the negative consequences?

[18:49] Yeah.

[18:50] With this one being the most obvious of, yo, if you make a board that can be filled with competition,

[18:55] you create monopolies.

[18:57] It's what you will do.

[18:58] You give companies government power.

[19:01] That's what you're doing.

[19:02] That's the only way that monopolies happen.

[19:05] You give a company government power.

[19:07] So going back to the original cause.

[19:11] What is a solution to do nothing?

[19:15] Just let the market play out.

[19:16] Let the market play out, man.

[19:18] And it will correct so infinitely faster than government has ever attempted to correct things.

[19:23] So in the situation I gave you before of, a hospital comes into an oversaturated market

[19:28] and poorly judges that this market needed a new hospital, right?

[19:33] It will die.

[19:35] It needs money to survive.

[19:37] If there's not enough people to go into the hospital to keep it afloat,

[19:40] the only thing that happens that makes people...

[19:42] It's bad for the hospital, but not bad for the people.

[19:45] No, it's like they have so many options.

[19:47] The only thing that's probably that would probably be bad, because there's trade-offs with everything,

[19:50] is that there might be some land used that could have been used for something else for a short amount of time.

[19:55] And that is a negative consequence.

[19:57] But the point I'm trying to make is that it feels like the main driver for it.

[20:01] What?

[20:02] Like the incredible investment that it is to build a hospital on an open plot of land.

[20:07] Sure.

[20:08] But that's on the hospital.

[20:10] And to the point of...

[20:12] The consequence from that is way less than giving a company government control through a board.

[20:18] Because the consequence...

[20:19] I mean, we're living it today.

[20:22] Where healthcare prices are so high, because of things like that.

[20:27] Because of those hospital systems.

[20:29] And again, we're talking about one law.

[20:32] There is...

[20:33] Healthcare is the most regulated industry in the entire world.

[20:36] Yeah.

[20:37] Those things create the potential for companies to go,

[20:39] I can charge you truly wherever the fuck I want, and you can either die or pay the fucking price.

[20:45] And people see that as the companies are bad, but it's because they're wielding government power.

[20:49] That's all that's going on.

[20:51] Yeah.

[20:52] And to change that, if you deregulate that allows for more competition, right?

[20:59] Which drives down prices in theory.

[21:01] Yep.

[21:03] Okay, so let's do that.

[21:05] Yeah.

[21:06] That's the goal, man.

[21:08] You know, a lot of...

[21:10] I won't go on too much longer on this, but a lot of the rhetoric around like,

[21:14] no, no, we can't treat X or Y like a product.

[21:17] You can't run it like a business.

[21:19] It is a product.

[21:19] If people are working...

[21:20] It's a product.

[21:21] And paying for it, it's a product.

[21:23] When people say healthcare is a right.

[21:25] Fuck you.

[21:26] I mean...

[21:28] You have the right to just...

[21:30] Well, to your ears...

[21:31] Someone else's labor.

[21:32] It is the most moronic statement.

[21:33] Because say water's a right.

[21:36] That's so common.

[21:37] Well, let's do this.

[21:38] Say water's a right, which is one that most people go.

[21:40] Yeah.

[21:41] Water's a right.

[21:42] You do realize that within a right, there's labor involved.

[21:46] It's not free.

[21:48] There's not...

[21:48] There's not a free...

[21:50] Like, there's...

[21:51] There's...

[21:52] Calls to...

[21:52] Go live in Colorado.

[21:53] There's no water there.

[21:54] Oh, yeah.

[21:57] The point is that there is no...

[22:00] We just get free thing.

[22:02] There is labor and cost involved in every single thing there is.

[22:06] The only one I can think of is like air.

[22:09] Like, you have the right to breathe air.

[22:12] Sure.

[22:13] I guess with the water one, there's effort in like collect.

[22:16] Like, we can just...

[22:17] You have to clean it.

[22:18] I guess you have to keep the air clean too.

[22:20] Like, there's effort that goes into it.

[22:21] Sure.

[22:22] But yeah.

[22:23] Correct.

[22:24] But, sorry.

[22:25] Keep going.

[22:25] No, I guess the point of just that...

[22:27] There's a lot of politicians that go, we're gonna have free healthcare.

[22:30] We're gonna have...

[22:31] We're gonna have water's gonna be of rights to be free.

[22:33] And it's like, dude...

[22:34] Do you know how much a CT scanner costs?

[22:36] It's a man.

[22:38] That's...

[22:39] Ungodly.

[22:39] You're just...

[22:42] There's...

[22:43] We don't live in a world where there's no cost.

[22:46] Those...

[22:46] Saying those things mean literally nothing.

[22:48] By going, we're gonna have free...

[22:49] I don't know.

[22:50] All you're doing is making it more costly by making government have control of it.

[22:54] Because you're...

[22:55] I mean, take the single payer system that a lot of the left-leaning people talk about

[22:59] of universal healthcare, right?

[23:01] You are eliminating all competitors.

[23:04] You're letting one thing have control over all of healthcare.

[23:08] And that takes the quality down as well.

[23:11] Massively.

[23:12] Dude.

[23:14] You could go take a macroeconomics course, 101, and understand that when you have one business controlling an entire market,

[23:23] they have no incentive to do better.

[23:25] The government is that example.

[23:27] Yeah.

[23:27] It's like, why would...

[23:29] There's this assumption that like...

[23:30] The government is altruistic or like they don't care about business.

[23:34] Like, they've only proven again and again that they have made everything worse.

[23:39] So, anyway, I will get off my soapbox, but...

[23:43] Man, is it...

[23:44] I'm going...

[23:45] I actually...

[23:46] I have a question for you.

[23:48] Yes.

[23:49] Because you're a big free market guy, right?

[23:52] Yes.

[23:52] And if I mischaracterize your views, just tell me.

[23:55] But I've heard you say capitalism isn't perfect, but it's the best we have.

[24:01] Sure.

[24:02] And I think your main point was you have to provide value to get value in return.

[24:09] Yeah.

[24:09] That's why it's a good system.

[24:11] Because like, no matter what your intentions are, it could be malicious or altruistic.

[24:16] You still have to provide value.

[24:18] Yeah.

[24:20] So, my question is, what happens...

[24:22] Like, the amount of value people deliver to society, drastically different, across the board.

[24:28] Right.

[24:29] It could take a billionaire versus some low-level worker.

[24:34] Bill Gates made Microsoft.

[24:36] Crazy amount of value.

[24:38] What happens if the average person doesn't deliver enough value to get like a decent amount of value in return, such that they can live a decent life?

[24:49] Like, what if everything was truly free and it turns out the typical person or like just a lot of people, they don't pull in enough value?

[25:00] How do we resolve that?

[25:02] Or should we resolve that?

[25:03] Well, my question would be that part, the definition of they don't pull in enough value mean like what they're homeless.

[25:12] Like dollar amount.

[25:14] Because in theory, if everything was free, value is kind of measured in dollars.

[25:21] Yeah.

[25:22] I guess my question is...

[25:24] Or to answer your question, there's never existed a time in humanity where we didn't...

[25:34] Like, value isn't created from nothing.

[25:36] So, say you take the people who are creating nothing, or choose to go, you know what?

[25:44] I'm not doing anything.

[25:45] Or just...

[25:46] I'm thinking of just like a really small amount, like fast food worker, not to rip on them, but like...

[25:51] Yeah.

[25:51] They're putting a small amount of value in, they don't get paid a lot.

[25:55] Yeah.

[25:56] Yeah, sorry.

[25:57] Keep going.

[25:58] Yeah, yeah.

[25:58] I would say that...

[26:01] There's a level of choice to that of...

[26:05] You can choose to become more skilled and increase your...

[26:10] What is it called?

[26:12] Human capital, I think in the economic areas.

[26:16] Or you cannot.

[26:17] You have the choice as the key.

[26:19] True.

[26:20] But I think you bring up a good point in that there's always this question of...

[26:26] How are the people who can't provide value?

[26:30] Like people who are disabled, or people who have...

[26:32] Let's just say disabled.

[26:33] It's a good one to start with.

[26:35] Okay.

[26:35] And, you know, people go, well, welfare, or things that they are providing to those people.

[26:41] And I think I brought this up with you before that people tend to...

[26:46] When they have a lot of...

[26:48] I don't even say a lot of well.

[26:49] Most people donate to things that are already providing services for...

[26:54] The people who need it the most in the private market.

[26:58] Comparably with the government already as it stands.

[27:00] When you reach a certain level, you start giving?

[27:02] Yeah.

[27:03] Well, that's the same market.

[27:05] I forgot the economist, but he says...

[27:06] The one way we can make the world cleaner is make everybody richer.

[27:10] Because people start...

[27:12] Fuck yeah.

[27:12] Well, dude, if you look at the statistics around places that are extremely polluted,

[27:19] they have the poorest people.

[27:21] Because people care about the environment.

[27:23] The hierarchy of needs, right?

[27:25] I care about my life first.

[27:27] Yes.

[27:27] Once you get to a place, then you care about the environment.

[27:30] It's not...

[27:30] I can't care about the environment when I'm rolling around and shit.

[27:33] And I can't feed myself.

[27:34] Yeah.

[27:35] That's just the truth of it.

[27:36] It's like you have to understand that there's a progression of values that happen.

[27:39] And within that, the people who are at the bottom who need support,

[27:44] typically get it through charitable means.

[27:48] I mean, the public education system we know today was started by the Rockefellers.

[27:53] Initially, it was a private endeavor to go, there's all these kids out and about.

[27:57] They need education.

[27:58] We need to fund this thing.

[27:59] And then the government took over at some point and ruined it.

[28:01] But you can find more charitable things than not from private interests

[28:06] than the government has ever done for anybody.

[28:09] People want to help other people.

[28:11] And typically, it's people who are doing well.

[28:14] So it's like taking that to the free market as well.

[28:17] Like those people will be helped.

[28:19] They will.

[28:20] Yeah.

[28:20] I mean, it shows today still that we're still helping people

[28:26] comparable to the government return on dollar through private donation.

[28:30] Yeah.

[28:30] I mean, think of all the private organizations that are like Salvation Army or Goodwill.

[28:35] There's so many of those organizations that have no tie to government

[28:39] that our businesses meant to help people who have nothing.

[28:44] Imagine if you took the tax dollars we pay, 30 to 40%,

[28:49] and how much more people would donate.

[28:50] How many more of those companies would exist?

[28:54] Yeah.

[28:54] Yeah.

[28:55] Yeah.

[28:55] When I lose a ton of my paycheck, I'm less likely to donate.

[28:58] Yeah.

[28:59] Everyone is.

[29:01] And it's even more fucked up when you look at the numbers of who's don't need the most.

[29:05] It's the richest people.

[29:07] It's like, because most people are trying to fight for themselves.

[29:13] And the richest people go, oh, I have all this money.

[29:14] I just give it to the people who need it.

[29:16] Most rich people are doing that.

[29:18] Yeah.

[29:19] I think a lot of people would say, well, they're only throwing scraps.

[29:23] Oh, yeah.

[29:23] Hundreds of millions of dollars.

[29:26] But for them, that's nothing.

[29:28] So people still get mad at them.

[29:29] So people will always say, insane arguments.

[29:32] I agree.

[29:33] Especially, it's common.

[29:35] It's very common.

[29:36] Totally.

[29:37] But especially being the person who doesn't have millions of dollars and going,

[29:40] it's just scraps for them.

[29:43] What a retarded fucking cake.

[29:45] It's still a fucked on a money.

[29:46] It's no better.

[29:48] There's so much emotion involved in that kind of rhetoric.

[29:51] It doesn't make any sense.

[29:53] Yeah.

[29:53] So anyway, we should go on to the next thing.

[29:55] I feel like I've taken up so much talking.

[29:57] No, it's a good discussion.

[29:59] It's a genuine question I had.

[30:02] I think you gave a pretty good answer to it.

[30:04] Hell yeah.

[30:05] I'll take that.

[30:06] Okay.

[30:09] This is a joke from another comment.

[30:12] Can you burp out of fart?

[30:15] We've had to have talked about that, right?

[30:17] We have.

[30:18] If all you have is a hammer, you have to make every problem look like a nail.

[30:23] I think that's government related to.

[30:24] We shouldn't do another one like that.

[30:26] It is a good phrase, though.

[30:28] I've heard that said about Trump.

[30:30] Yeah, it's very common.

[30:31] Like the way he just insults people.

[30:34] Sure, yeah.

[30:35] It's just a hammer.

[30:35] It's like smashing everything.

[30:37] Okay, I think it's separate from that.

[30:39] Okay.

[30:40] That's right.

[30:40] Because this one's taken the context of it's usually used for referring to the war's

[30:45] America's been in where in the Middle East specifically, there's like World War II happens.

[30:52] We do that war.

[30:53] We have Vietnam.

[30:55] And then we start to have all these problems in the Middle East where we're like we're

[30:58] trying to bring peace but establish dominance and we don't know what to do.

[31:04] And the military leaders and the neo conservatives go well, just use war.

[31:11] It's like they use this tool that if the goal is to provide peace in the area, they just

[31:19] keep using the hammer.

[31:20] That's the only tool they have.

[31:21] Every problem is suddenly terrorism or a conflict or it's always a nail now where the

[31:27] problem was never.

[31:27] Smash it and blow it up.

[31:29] Exactly.

[31:30] For peace.

[31:31] Yeah.

[31:31] And it's, I thought it was a good phrase.

[31:33] I forgot who said it.

[31:34] But I'll try to find a non-government one in here.

[31:42] Pet peeve having debate over a topic and when the other side is losing, says the topic

[31:46] is to abstract.

[31:46] It's also government.

[31:48] No, I mean this one's, it was related to a debate.

[31:51] That's about government.

[31:52] But have you had this happen?

[31:54] We're like, you're winning an argument and the person, they'll use the throw away of

[31:58] it.

[31:59] Well, you can find a study for everything or there's so much opinion on it.

[32:05] It's like how would you know the truth on that?

[32:08] Yeah.

[32:08] I mean, I feel that way about so many issues.

[32:14] Sure.

[32:14] I feel like more people should feel that way.

[32:17] That there's a lot out there.

[32:20] I think, I mean, we were just talking about this.

[32:22] Like so many people will see a headline and then just use that to set their worldview.

[32:26] Like, they don't actually look into it.

[32:28] Sure.

[32:29] That's a great point.

[32:29] I think more people should start from a place of, this is so freaking complicated, especially

[32:35] politics and economics and all that.

[32:38] Like, people should be more humble coming into discussions about that.

[32:42] Totally.

[32:43] But to use it, I think that's different from what you're talking about.

[32:46] Like to use it to discredit a point you're making, I think, is kind of bullshit.

[32:51] Especially if they don't have a counterpoint.

[32:53] I think both things can be true.

[32:54] I think what you brought up is that most people are operating in the, they're not reading

[32:59] 40 books on a subject.

[33:01] No.

[33:01] They're seeing an article headline.

[33:03] But I would think though, when you start to read about, I don't know, economics, physics,

[33:12] anything that's been well studied, right?

[33:15] There is a general consensus.

[33:17] There's something that people agree on in those fields.

[33:20] Okay.

[33:20] Yeah, sure.

[33:21] And that it doesn't take too long reading about those fields to find the general consensus

[33:26] things.

[33:27] There's always the new ones.

[33:27] Because then you have to decide, okay, are all these scientists, economists, whatever.

[33:32] Are they all lying?

[33:33] Is it a conspiracy or do I trust them a little bit?

[33:37] Right.

[33:38] Even I'm not an expert.

[33:39] And we're talking about, for the most part, if you're not getting from total crap sources,

[33:42] people who've dedicated their lives to these subjects.

[33:45] An economist like Milton Friedman or F.A. Hayek literally have been like, there's two

[33:52] kind of in my head and other economists have said, there's social science economists

[33:57] and there's mathematical economists.

[34:01] So like Milton Friedman would be an example of a mathematical one with Ludwig von Mises

[34:05] would be a social science one where they're not crushing the numbers necessarily, but they're

[34:10] seeing large patterns in society.

[34:13] I've heard economics as a study of human behavior.

[34:16] For sure, but there's a mathematical sense to it too.

[34:18] That milka.

[34:19] In my opinion, the mathematical one grounds everything.

[34:22] You can draw a conclusion.

[34:25] You can almost make it experimental on a mathematical degree as opposed to Ludwig von Mises would

[34:29] be like, well, here's all this information.

[34:32] And I feel like you got to combine the two.

[34:34] Absolutely.

[34:35] I mean, that makes for the best conclusion and hypothesis at the same time.

[34:39] Point being is that if you take yourself today and you start reading about economics, you'll

[34:45] find there's 70 to 80 percent stuff that's agreed upon.

[34:50] Unless you read an extreme, if you recarl Marx, he's going to say, hey, man, look, the value

[34:55] in everything is actually human labor.

[34:57] So if I take four hours to make something and you take one hour to make something, mine

[35:03] costs more because I spent more time doing it.

[35:06] That's this theory.

[35:07] That's insane.

[35:08] Yeah.

[35:09] A lot of you will fall in line with that.

[35:12] That's his big thing.

[35:13] Absolutely.

[35:14] And I've seen that happen in my own work.

[35:18] Yeah.

[35:18] It's like it.

[35:20] You can take as much time as you want to do something.

[35:23] It's not going to be different.

[35:23] Yeah.

[35:24] I mean, it's a, I've read Karl Marx's capital, which is like about a thousand pages.

[35:29] It's just that regurgitated over and over and over about how, if you work longer, this

[35:37] thing costs more money.

[35:39] So it, I mean, every college in our country has a group of Marxists who are like,

[35:45] advocating for which I grant they probably haven't even read.

[35:47] They probably don't even know what they're talking about.

[35:48] Yeah.

[35:49] It's, it's pretty bad.

[35:50] And again, I'm not an economist, but if you read that, it smells, you're like, this

[35:56] doesn't make any sense.

[35:57] Like right away.

[35:59] Yeah.

[35:59] You don't have to get too, you've been to be like, none of this adds up.

[36:03] Like if you apply this to a real situation, you can't make it happen.

[36:07] The only way you can make it happen is by trying communism and destroying, how did that

[36:11] work?

[36:12] It destroys everything.

[36:14] So, wait, where were you, that was a side thing.

[36:17] What were you saying before?

[36:18] Uh, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, any economist besides Marx, you're saying agree

[36:23] on the same things.

[36:24] I'm saying that there's a, there's a way more stuff they agree on than disagree on.

[36:27] Okay.

[36:27] I'd say it's, it's always like, well, I can only speak for economics and like psychology

[36:32] and there, there's always, there are you in a lot of nuance.

[36:35] There's like, some things that work a little marginally better than other things.

[36:38] Again, granted without the extremists like a Karl Marx, but you read an economist, most

[36:43] economists agree that like a freer market is a better thing.

[36:46] With Milton Friedman and F.A. Hayek being like, no, it should be entirely free.

[36:51] And they make great cases for that.

[36:53] But again, it's coming to this place of, you're debating with someone and you go, I've

[36:59] read 10 books on the subject and they go, oh, but, and they've read none, by the way,

[37:04] they've read zero books on the subject and they go, dude, you, you don't even, it's so

[37:09] complex.

[37:10] They haven't read anything about it.

[37:12] Yeah.

[37:12] They just truly feel like, well, I'm closer than you.

[37:16] It's like, I'm way closer to the answer than you are.

[37:19] One of the people I'm thinking of I was talking with about this.

[37:22] I said, what makes you the authority on economics?

[37:25] If I'm the person who's, and you have not read, it's like, how can you decide that

[37:29] it's so complex?

[37:30] It's like, we actually shouldn't even be having this discovery.

[37:34] What are we talking about here?

[37:36] So anyway, we'll go to the next thing.

[37:40] You're making me want to read about economics too.

[37:42] Dude, I got some good stuff to recommend if you ever want to.

[37:45] And some, I feel going back to like my first point, this last election, I literally

[37:52] was like, should I just not vote?

[37:54] Because I truly felt, I don't have the time to understand the implications of one candidate

[37:59] for the other.

[38:00] Because there's so much.

[38:01] Yeah.

[38:02] And then I look at the typical voter and it's like, okay, no more than this person.

[38:05] Sure.

[38:06] But it's tough.

[38:07] I feel like the general voter truly is super unformed.

[38:12] Yeah.

[38:13] Because if you're listening to an ad that says, four words about.

[38:18] Four words about.

[38:19] Stop abortion.

[38:19] Yeah.

[38:20] So one of the hot button topics.

[38:22] It's never based in like, what's actually going to help anyone?

[38:25] Right.

[38:26] So no one's really in for, yeah.

[38:28] And you know, to people average person for it.

[38:30] And they fucking lie.

[38:31] Like ads, candidates.

[38:33] Yeah.

[38:33] It's all lies.

[38:34] Yeah.

[38:35] A lot of it is.

[38:36] Yeah.

[38:37] And dude, I'm privileged to have the time to read about these things.

[38:42] A lot of you aren't.

[38:42] Yeah.

[38:43] So it's like, you know, and to that's decision you're talking about.

[38:48] I don't think it matters a lot.

[38:51] I think we live kind of in a unit party system.

[38:56] There might be an illusion of people going against certain things.

[38:59] Oh, because they're so similar, amen.

[39:00] Yeah.

[39:01] And there's our system and so similar.

[39:03] Parties do things from their opposite party way more than you would think.

[39:07] And it's, I don't know.

[39:09] I don't know.

[39:09] I don't say that.

[39:10] I wouldn't put weight on you if you're like, oh man, I'm making the right choice.

[39:14] When at the end of the day, you could probably vote one or another.

[39:17] Maybe once more.

[39:18] Right.

[39:18] Yeah.

[39:20] I know that.

[39:20] But I'm thinking about myself and then thinking of every voter.

[39:24] Yeah.

[39:24] It's like most people don't think that way.

[39:26] I don't know.

[39:27] No, they're probably going there going.

[39:29] I have voted Democrat on my life.

[39:30] I'm voting for that.

[39:31] Or I'm voting Republican either way, which might be more beneficial because they just.

[39:37] It's almost like you can't change it.

[39:40] So like, don't worry about it.

[39:42] Yeah, it's really bad.

[39:43] I'm just going.

[39:43] I hit the button and sign the thing.

[39:45] You're good.

[39:46] I don't know, man.

[39:48] I can tell you this from my own experience.

[39:50] It has only made my neuroses worse in terms of like, like, I just know how fucked a lot

[39:57] of things are from reading about them.

[40:00] And it seems more hopeless because of the direction everything goes.

[40:05] Like I don't, I truly have no idea how to get out of the problem.

[40:09] I don't.

[40:10] What is that problem?

[40:13] There's nothing.

[40:13] We're not any, but it's like in a place where a government continues to go, hey, we need

[40:16] to spend more.

[40:18] And the American people go, we don't want to spend more.

[40:20] And then they go, well, we're going to make you spend more.

[40:21] Fuck it.

[40:22] We're doing it anyway.

[40:23] And they do it.

[40:24] There's been no shift.

[40:25] You look at a chart from like, I don't know, 1970 to now, since we got off the gold

[40:29] standard.

[40:31] The government alone has inflated the dollar by so much by just their spending.

[40:37] That's it.

[40:38] And every year they go, we're going to cut taxes, but then they spend another place.

[40:42] It's like, it never ends.

[40:45] I don't know how to stop it.

[40:47] It's scary.

[40:49] It's like we're going towards a cliff.

[40:51] And we just keep going and not even trying to course correct.

[40:55] Yeah.

[40:55] And there's all these events in like 2008 recession, right?

[40:59] They move a ton of money to the richest people in the country through bailouts during

[41:05] COVID.

[41:06] Same exact thing.

[41:07] They go, we're doing all these PPP loans for small businesses.

[41:10] What do they do?

[41:11] They move a ton of the money, like 90% of the money, to big businesses and super rich

[41:16] people that are involved in the government.

[41:18] And they're doing that over and over until the super rich people get extremely rich.

[41:25] Again, through government means and the poorest get even poorer.

[41:28] And they do another one of those, shit might break.

[41:32] And then there's the whole deficit issue.

[41:34] There's so many layers to like, bad shit going on.

[41:41] There's a country.

[41:42] Well, dollar just becomes worthless because no one trusts our credit.

[41:45] And then shit gets really dark, right?

[41:47] It says anywhere where a loaf of bread is $100, stuff like that.

[41:51] So then what?

[41:52] We start bartering.

[41:53] Well, it's going to be the current case.

[41:54] It's going to be the same price actually.

[41:56] It'll be $100 for a flow pack.

[41:58] But inside junk.

[42:00] Inside junk.

[42:00] No one has any context about it.

[42:01] But that's what will happen.

[42:02] Essentially, if you owe a bunch of money to a credit card company and you default in

[42:06] it, no one trusts you.

[42:07] So they go, oh, wait, your money's not shit, dude.

[42:09] So the dollar just fucking explodes.

[42:12] Yeah, it kind of blows my mind that people are still like, I would not trust the United

[42:19] States as a lender.

[42:21] But people still do.

[42:23] People are still taking out government loans.

[42:26] Yeah, I think there's other countries are still buying or dead.

[42:30] I think there's like a, there's a security level to it because America is still kind

[42:36] of the superpower.

[42:38] There's some security in knowing that we have the power.

[42:41] Not because of our military.

[42:43] Does that is like you take the dollar off the gold standard.

[42:47] Yeah.

[42:47] Does the standard then become just how powerful we are militarily?

[42:52] Could be.

[42:52] I mean, it's how empires have ruled previously where it doesn't matter how much money

[42:57] we're making.

[42:57] We'll just go take something.

[42:59] Yeah.

[42:59] Which that's also how you don't want to do things because it creates enemies.

[43:03] Right.

[43:03] We've done that already.

[43:04] Yeah.

[43:05] I mean, 9-11 is a great example of that.

[43:06] Through those means of us going and taking things for no good meat.

[43:10] And even those you could argue, those attempts at taking things were like meaningless and didn't

[43:14] help anybody other than like Dick Cheney.

[43:17] And they've only made us more hated and had threats of terrorism and thousands of people

[43:23] dying because of those actions.

[43:25] So we'll see, man, I mean, in 1971 when we went off, you know how the gold standard

[43:31] thing went away?

[43:33] I know Nexon did it.

[43:35] So what so we had been promising the gold standard to everyone, meaning that if you go

[43:42] to the government and you go, hey, I want to exchange this cash dollar for gold.

[43:47] Like, they get fuck without a gold.

[43:49] What happened in 1971 is Paris and France or Paris and oh my god, France and England went,

[43:57] hey, we want to call your bluff America because America had been spending insanely to where

[44:03] they're like, no, we're not even close.

[44:05] Yeah.

[44:05] And when when France and England went, hey, we want gold for this, Nexon went, we're

[44:10] off the gold standard that moment.

[44:14] Damn.

[44:14] Yeah.

[44:15] So someone tried to call those, they're like, oh, you thought we had gold.

[44:17] Yeah.

[44:18] Oh, by the way, can't back it.

[44:20] Sorry.

[44:22] So, yeah.

[44:24] Yeah.

[44:25] I feel like that also kind of comes back to our military.

[44:28] It's like we can do that and be like, what are you going to do?

[44:31] Sure.

[44:32] Yeah.

[44:32] Yeah.

[44:33] You're going to invade us for your gold.

[44:36] You're not wrong.

[44:38] The only thing, again, the consequence of being that thing is that you make enemies though.

[44:44] Make enemies and you're people, people work better through cooperation.

[44:49] Like when people have the choice to work with you, things go way better.

[44:54] When we go, we're going to use force, you create for every one person that goes, this

[44:59] is right, you have 10 people going, fuck that guy.

[45:04] True.

[45:05] Yeah.

[45:05] It's human nature at the end of the day.

[45:07] Yeah.

[45:08] So anyway, on to the next thing.

[45:10] It's time to stop.

[45:11] Four, two, three, four, four, five minutes.

[45:15] All right.

[45:16] We'll find something.

[45:18] All right.

[45:19] Well, that's from Monipython.

[45:24] You're just tempted to just recite jokes.

[45:27] Well, dude, I don't know if you ever watched Monipython's flying circus.

[45:30] They're like sketch stuff before the Holy Grail.

[45:34] It's some of the funniest stuff you'll ever watch your life.

[45:36] But one sketch in particular is there's this CIA guy, or it's MI6 because they're British,

[45:44] right?

[45:45] So he's looking for this guy, Teddy Salad, who's supposed to be the top MI6 agent to

[45:52] have ever lived.

[45:53] He's like James Bond of the MI6, right?

[45:55] And he's trying to find this guy.

[45:58] And he goes to some very northern cold place and he finds this like Eskimo dude who has

[46:07] this dog.

[46:08] And he's like, I heard Teddy Salad is here.

[46:11] And he goes like, he's right there.

[46:12] He's like, what?

[46:14] He's right there.

[46:15] And he points to the dog.

[46:17] And he's coming to find out that the top MI6 guy was so good that he cut off all of

[46:22] his limbs and has been put inside of a dog.

[46:26] And Teddy Salad is now just the dog being that.

[46:31] And I'm doing it in no justice.

[46:34] But this is a sketch, right?

[46:35] It's just a sketch.

[46:36] And it's just like the idea that the top level of MI6 agent is he's so committed to his

[46:41] job that he cut off all of his limbs and put his body in a dog.

[46:45] He became a dog.

[46:46] And he's just operating in covert means as a dog in Alaska.

[46:52] It's hilarious.

[46:52] It's so good.

[46:53] We'll watch it someday.

[46:55] I had to bring it up because I dude it was one of those things where I'd wash and laugh

[46:58] alone.

[47:00] Like very few things.

[47:01] Those are rare and beautiful moments.

[47:02] Yes.

[47:03] It's so good.

[47:04] Okay.

[47:05] Man goes on carnivore diet.

[47:06] He needs six to nine pounds of cheese a day along with hamburger meat.

[47:10] Ends up oozing cholesterol from his hands.

[47:12] Yellow goo.

[47:13] Literally coming out of his hands.

[47:15] They take his total cholesterol, which I think an average total cholesterol should be

[47:19] like around 200 milligrams per deciliter.

[47:22] His was a thousand milligrams per deciliter.

[47:25] I didn't realize that that was possible.

[47:27] I realize you can eat food.

[47:28] I don't think anyone did until I had it.

[47:30] That's why I was a story.

[47:32] That's true.

[47:35] Oozling.

[47:35] I saw the pictures.

[47:37] It looks like you have like like cheese whiz coming out of you.

[47:40] It was like coming out of like the creases and these fingers right.

[47:42] Oh dude.

[47:45] How do you eat that much meat and cheese?

[47:48] That's just impressive in its own right.

[47:51] Six to nine pounds is a lot of cheese.

[47:53] That's so much.

[47:54] You probably never pooping.

[47:55] I'm a huge cheese eater.

[47:56] Like after a certain amount, you just stomach is just like dude.

[48:01] That's so much.

[48:03] Well they have four pounds.

[48:04] I mean, dude, I gotta think like how's that?

[48:08] That's hard.

[48:09] Yeah.

[48:09] If you have a dude, you're arteries, you're like, you're just filling your arteries

[48:14] with a fucking cholesterol.

[48:15] I can't call.

[48:17] All right.

[48:19] All right.

[48:20] Sorry.

[48:20] I wanted you to have to pee.

[48:22] I was thinking about it while I was in the bathroom.

[48:24] The opposite side of man eating six to nine pounds of cheese that I've read about is

[48:30] people who've eaten, they've decided to just eat only carrots and they get hyper-vitaminosis.

[48:35] Oh my god.

[48:36] Which is-

[48:37] They turn orange?

[48:38] Yeah.

[48:38] From the beta-carotene, you literally just turn orange.

[48:40] It looks like you got like a spray tan.

[48:42] I had a coworker who would drink carrot juice every day.

[48:46] He went on camera.

[48:48] He literally looked orange.

[48:49] Dude.

[48:50] That's crazy.

[48:51] I'm like, I told him.

[48:52] We acknowledged that he's like, yeah, I mean a lot of carrots.

[48:58] But is that condition dangerous or do you just look orange?

[49:02] I feel like carrots are very good for you.

[49:05] Yeah.

[49:06] I think it's okay because if you take-

[49:08] I'll take that over cholesterol.

[49:09] Yeah.

[49:10] Yeah.

[49:10] I mean way less damaging than eating six to nine pounds of cheese.

[49:15] But like if you took, I don't like synthetic vitamin A's, really bad for your liver.

[49:19] But beta-carotene, which is the natural form that you find in foods, there's got to be

[49:24] an upper limit.

[49:26] But not to the degree where it's like you're eating six to nine pounds of cheese.

[49:29] What's that?

[49:30] Dude, it has to be melting your insides.

[49:33] Oh, here's a cholesterol hand.

[49:35] Oh god, so fucking crazy.

[49:36] You can just shake and handle that and just getting cholesterol.

[49:38] Oh yeah, does it?

[49:40] Does it ooze off of it?

[49:41] Oh yes, it's fucking, it's like the inside of an egg.

[49:44] That's like, it's like that way because it's just mostly cholesterol.

[49:48] He said he had, there were no warning signs.

[49:51] He had high cholesterol until that happened.

[49:54] It shows the guys never going to the doctor.

[49:58] You know, Jordan Peterson is, right?

[50:01] He's hardcore carnivore guy.

[50:04] And he claims it has caused many benefits in his life.

[50:08] I will always push back on that because there's a lot of problems with people going

[50:15] any extreme diet or you're excluding a lot of stuff.

[50:20] You're just chalking up to the things you're eating.

[50:23] Which it's usually a result of you excluding process things.

[50:28] It's bad things.

[50:29] You removed the thing here.

[50:31] And now you're eating one thing, which

[50:35] the science around those things shows that you're getting an immediate relief from symptoms

[50:42] because you're not adding anything necessarily like aggravating.

[50:47] There's no dietary fiber in fucking meat.

[50:50] So you're not really making your gut work.

[50:54] Think of fiber as if a workout for your gut, truly.

[50:59] Yeah, because it makes it super important.

[51:01] Yeah, how do you go without fiber?

[51:03] Well, you can, but it's just you're literally like detoning your intestines.

[51:07] They're muscles.

[51:08] It is a muscular structure.

[51:10] So when you don't add bulk like that, it just doesn't need to be toned.

[51:15] It's just because you're just putting calories just go right through you.

[51:19] So when people like go on those diets and they go, oh, I feel great.

[51:23] I don't have brain fog.

[51:23] I wake up in the morning feeling fantastic.

[51:25] It's like, A, you probably excluded things that were fucking with you.

[51:28] And B, you're getting really short lived benefit.

[51:31] If you keep eating carnivore for five to 10 years, I promise you,

[51:36] you're going to start seeing some nasty cardiovascular symptoms.

[51:38] High cholesterol, bad triglycerides, heart attacks, stroke.

[51:43] It's not going to be good.

[51:44] You're going to have high cholesterol.

[51:45] It would go against everything, all the nutritional science out there.

[51:48] What are how long he's been doing it?

[51:51] I don't know.

[51:51] Didn't he do it because his daughter had a bunch of autoimmune condition stuff

[51:54] and she did it and she felt relief.

[51:55] And then he was like, I'm convinced it's the thing.

[51:58] Yes.

[51:59] And I think he initially did, okay, only meats and greens.

[52:04] And then he's like, he's like, I felt better, but I still had some issues.

[52:07] I think he has the same autoimmune thing.

[52:10] Gotcha.

[52:11] Maybe I might be getting better.

[52:12] But then he's like, and then I got rid of the greens and I got even better.

[52:16] Which is nuts.

[52:18] I mean, that's it's just, there's something to be said about, hey,

[52:24] you, everyone's individual.

[52:26] We have our own experiences.

[52:27] Try and see what works for you.

[52:28] That was my takeaway.

[52:30] Like maybe your actual biological needs are very different on an individual basis.

[52:35] Sure.

[52:36] There's a, there's an understanding that it has to be around.

[52:40] If you, if I suddenly put you on a hundred grams of dietary fiber,

[52:43] which the research would suggest that, that is so protective in terms of cancer,

[52:50] cardiovascular health, because of things that typically come with fiber, right?

[52:53] Yeah.

[52:53] Yeah.

[52:54] That you're going to experience a lot of discomfort initially.

[52:59] There's going to be a shift.

[53:00] And the reason for that is that your microbiome, the, the bacteria that digest food,

[53:03] for the most part, they're not used to doing that.

[53:07] There's going to be a period where it's going to take some time to get used to.

[53:10] Yeah, because you're so adapted to whatever you're currently eating.

[53:13] Exactly.

[53:14] And if you start eating meat, you don't have any adaptation going on.

[53:17] Other than you'll create bacteria that produce things like TMAO is one of the more common ones

[53:22] that eggs and red meat spike this enzyme up that is directly damaging arterial linens,

[53:30] which is, it's the new thing now that used to be high cholesterol.

[53:33] And eggs and red meat, eggs are red meat.

[53:35] Make your TMAO go up.

[53:36] You need a fuck ton of eggs.

[53:38] Yeah.

[53:38] I mean, we all got to pick our battles and trails at the end of the day.

[53:42] But it's, it's one of those things where when people go, I got off, I'm eating only meat.

[53:46] It's like, yeah, you're, you're not making your gut work out at all.

[53:50] And it makes sense why you're not feeling any symptoms because if anything,

[53:54] you eating plants and going, no, I feel terrible.

[53:57] It means you're not, you're not enough.

[53:59] You need to increase that.

[54:01] You have a weak gut.

[54:02] I've tried to get my parents to eat more fiber.

[54:05] Yeah.

[54:06] And my, both of them are like, we try to do that and we just start farting so much.

[54:11] Yeah, initially.

[54:12] Yeah.

[54:12] And that's what I keep telling them.

[54:14] And then they stop because they see those symptoms.

[54:16] I'm like, just power through it.

[54:18] Like you should.

[54:19] And if you ever, it typically takes two to three weeks,

[54:24] closer to a month for some people who are extreme, but it's your body truly adjusting to a healthier environment.

[54:29] That's what's going on.

[54:30] And funny enough, not to keep going on about the science of this.

[54:35] Very few things in nutritional literature or medical literature are like hard to track.

[54:41] Dietary fiber is one of the very few that across the board, you can go for every

[54:46] gram I increase healthier outcomes happen.

[54:49] A crawl for all of our big killers, type 2 diabetes, cancer, heart disease, stroke, infection, dietary fiber.

[54:57] So just by increasing that and granted, there's the exception of if you go buy a fiber supplement,

[55:03] you're probably not going to seem the same benefits.

[55:05] If you just start eating like 100 grams of fucking like, I don't know,

[55:08] benefit a day as opposed to getting that from plant foods.

[55:13] So anyway, don't even remember how I got on that.

[55:15] Eat more fiber.

[55:16] Eat more fiber.

[55:17] It's good for you.

[55:18] Jordan Peterson.

[55:19] It's more plants.

[55:22] It's not good that you're eating on the meat.

[55:24] But also it's one of those things to like, you guys any like cardiologist,

[55:29] Hey, man, what should I do if I have heart disease?

[55:31] He's going to tell you to eat less meat, less fatty foods.

[55:36] It's not controversial.

[55:37] That's the crazy part of people been like, oh, this is what all these doctors did.

[55:40] So it's like, no, most cardiologists who work with the vascular structure,

[55:45] specifically, go, you should eat less meat.

[55:48] The and red meat is worse, right?

[55:51] Yeah, because of the saturated fat content, but also the TMO thing.

[55:54] It has a bunch of other compounds in that just are even worse for our arteries for some reason.

[56:00] But then the fish one, the fish one's getting as worse now too,

[56:03] where they're like, because the oceans are so polluted, you get things like pfAs.

[56:07] Mercury is always a problem.

[56:08] Heavy metals being led, mercury, cadmium even.

[56:12] But there's because they're in the ocean, they're filled with plastic typically now,

[56:17] which we're finding that starting to have an issue.

[56:19] And I've been here a lot about microplastics lately.

[56:22] Yeah, it's ended up in your brain.

[56:24] It's the new thing where, yeah, I mean, it's around everything.

[56:29] Most things in this apartment, plastic.

[56:32] Yeah.

[56:32] This material, plastic.

[56:34] We're eating it.

[56:35] Plastic.

[56:36] Yeah, dude, our clothes, probably plastic, polyester.

[56:39] Yeah.

[56:40] How do we escape?

[56:42] You got to find, you got to either use natural materials or

[56:46] not eat, I mean, don't eat canned food.

[56:48] Don't eat, don't microwave stuff in plastic.

[56:51] So I don't know, but it's one of those things too, like,

[56:54] it's everywhere.

[56:55] I don't know how you're going to avoid it.

[56:57] You're kind of fucked.

[56:59] All right, we got time for one more.

[57:01] Let's end on.

[57:03] People not using POV correctly.

[57:07] All right.

[57:07] Now, when I say that, what do you think of?

[57:12] POV is in point of view.

[57:14] Correct.

[57:15] I honestly don't know what you're talking about.

[57:18] All right.

[57:19] I've seen countless videos on the internet where they go.

[57:23] The caption is POV, you just start working out.

[57:27] And it'll be a camera looking at the person working out.

[57:33] And it's this is the most nitpicky peep.

[57:36] Oh, man, I mean, it sits so dumb.

[57:38] No, dude, it's like,

[57:40] pardon me, things they don't even know what POV means.

[57:44] Like they're just someone.

[57:45] It's like POV, a jack walks up to at the bar and it's just some dude being an asshole.

[57:50] Like, talking to a POV though.

[57:53] Yeah, it is.

[57:53] It's used correctly.

[57:54] That one, I'm like, hey, you're doing it right.

[57:56] But I've seen more than that.

[57:58] I've seen an example of that mess used.

[58:00] I see it so much on Reddit where people go POV, I'm taking a walk and it's a video of them walking.

[58:09] Yeah, they're really saying like, this is what it looks like when I take a walk.

[58:13] Yes.

[58:13] Not someone else's feet.

[58:15] Not their point of view taking a walk.

[58:17] It's one of the things I've just, I think there's,

[58:20] that happens with a lot of things where I don't think people,

[58:24] they see a video of something and they think they understand and they don't even try to,

[58:30] yeah, are they here a term repeated?

[58:32] So like, I'll tack this on.

[58:33] Yes.

[58:34] And they just use it without even thinking about it.

[58:36] But then they come across someone like me.

[58:37] And they go, you are retarded.

[58:41] You are one of the people that doesn't read anything.

[58:45] Yeah, which most people, I don't think care.

[58:47] And at the end of the day fine it gives me a laugh when people are like, POV,

[58:51] I'm going for a jog.

[58:53] It's a video of them jogging like from far away.

[58:56] Okay.

[58:58] Well, on that note, I'm looking at my peves now.

[59:03] Okay.

[59:03] I haven't said a peeve in a while.

[59:05] Dude, give me a peeve.

[59:09] Yeah.

[59:13] There's some good ones in here.

[59:15] Okay.

[59:15] Give me one.

[59:17] One that I heard recently, I actually don't remember where it was.

[59:21] But when people wind an award,

[59:24] and they say, I'm humbled to receive this award.

[59:30] Okay.

[59:31] Yeah.

[59:31] Is, isn't that the exact opposite of being humbled?

[59:36] Why are you humbled to receive an award?

[59:41] Yeah, because wouldn't, wouldn't being humbled be like,

[59:44] you go through something like shameful almost?

[59:46] Yeah, being humbled is like,

[59:47] it's like taking you down a patch.

[59:49] Yeah, I got rejected for a second day.

[59:51] Like that's humbling.

[59:53] That's a great point.

[59:54] I never thought about it.

[59:54] Why do people say I'm humbled?

[59:56] It's like you are designated as above the rest.

[59:59] And they're humbled by it.

[60:02] It just feels so ingenuine.

[60:05] Hey, not to say that this connects directly to the POV thing,

[60:08] but I think people just don't understand what they're saying.

[60:10] People don't know what.

[60:11] I truly think they're just going,

[60:13] they have no idea what that actually means.

[60:16] To your point, it doesn't make sense.

[60:18] I would feel any award I've won,

[60:21] not that I've won a ton of awards.

[60:22] Oh, I mean, you've won so many.

[60:24] It's the opposite of humbling.

[60:26] It makes you feel awesome.

[60:27] You're grateful.

[60:28] That's like, you know, that kind of one.

[60:30] Humbling is like bullied.

[60:32] Like sorry.

[60:34] Like you've been like,

[60:35] yeah, you're trying to do something

[60:36] that you're essentially not what you thought you were.

[60:39] In fact, it would not win the award.

[60:42] Yes, that would be humbling.

[60:46] That's a great point.

[60:48] Everyone says it though.

[60:49] Whenever you watch the Oscars,

[60:50] they don't know.

[60:51] I'm so humbled to receive this award.

[60:52] They're all full of shit.

[60:53] Oh, man, they're all dummies.

[60:57] Well, that's a good one to end on.

[60:59] Yeah.

[61:00] Living in a dumb world.

[61:01] Everyone sucks.

[61:03] All right.

[61:04] Until next time, your dummies.

[61:06] Bye-bye.