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It feels like it's been a while, but I guess it's only been, I don't even remember when
we were doing this.
A little holiday break.
Happy New Year everybody.
Yeah, 2025, project 2025.
Dude, I've been saying that for everything, like at work.
It's like, what should we call this?
Our outlook, like project 2025.
It's a great thing to say.
Yeah.
I just got it.
I don't know if you'll tell me a while ago, I tried reading some of that.
It's just a long, long technical problem.
Yeah.
Like how a conservative president should run an office.
And it's obviously didn't get to the parts that aren't flammatory, but the whole beginning
sounds great.
Yeah.
So you support project 2020?
At least the beginning.
I don't know.
It could say things on page 50 that are like so abhorrent that I'm like, you know, doesn't
align, but.
Yeah, how deep did you get?
Probably 30 pages.
It's like each page is pretty good.
Yeah, I mean, it gets really technical about like the underlying theme at least again,
this is me.
I think it's close to like, it's hundreds of pages, but the underlying themes seem to be
there's so much bureaucratic inflation, meaning that there's so many roles that are made
to just exist.
And the whole system is non-married based.
They kept using that wording of it's all.
Yeah, I feel like you hear that a lot.
It's all a seniority.
Yeah, entirely.
And like they outline in detail all of the situations where this happens and it makes
a really great case for, yeah, you got to get rid of all these government things.
You have to because it's they're just made to just be.
There's no real point to a lot of it and people are just moving up and up and up and they're
growing bigger and bigger and bigger.
They're trying to gain power, right?
Truly for no positive outcome for anyone except for the government.
And so it's like, you know, I know again, they're my
happy bad things later in the document, but the theme of that is exactly what we all need
in terms of, I mean, I couldn't imagine first couple pages do they're just trying to
draw you in.
True.
It could be that they're like, they're like, they're all sign up for everything else we
have.
Like page 50, like, and we got to bring slavery back.
And you're like, oh, fuck, no, there it is.
But I would I would think that if I gave that to anyone out of context, the 30 pages I
read, they'd go absolutely anyone.
Like, dude, you write this?
God damn, dude, you should run for office.
But like anyone would probably be like, how many people do you think have even, I bet
you're in the 99.9 percentile for even attempting to read that?
Yeah, I mean, it's the same line of like, who's going to rate a fucking bill that was made
by any politician?
Yeah.
Like, you know, I think that project 2025 and maybe the time Trump was game peach are the
only times I actually like watched live events or paid attention to something because it
caused so much media up for.
And it's like, what's the truth on this?
Because you're getting fed different stories by everyone.
So then they're dropping peachments stuff.
I mean, you want to talk about like the most mind numbing shit to ever watch.
We're like, most politicians are like, have a law background.
And it's just an endless amount of someone goes, well, this is what this is.
And then it goes to their speaking time, the other side that they point the finger at and
they go, well, this is what this said.
No one admits, no one addresses what they're accused of.
They just keep pointing fingers.
There's a lot.
So just take a long accusation, completely ignore it.
Entirely just fire back.
And dude, it's impressive because they all do it.
And those hearings were four to seven hours a piece and there were multiple hearings.
So I watched two of them entirely.
And it's again, you feel like you're going nuts.
Because it's like you're talking to someone who, it's like they didn't hear anything.
Yeah.
I'd go, hey man, you did this.
You did this over here and you were really shitting and then you go, well, how about dogs?
Dogs are pretty nice.
And then it's just that for hours.
It's like the debates too.
It's like they're not even having a conversation.
They just throw stuff back and forth.
Yeah.
And I guess there is the importance of like, because they have time or strength, they don't
have time.
They want to get their points across and what they do have rebuttal like specifically.
So I don't know.
It's like, I don't know, man.
It really shines light on like, oh, this is such bullshit.
This whole system is so shitty and everyone involved is just playing their like clown
part to be like, I'm a professional person who cares about the people.
And it's just like on an endless fucking merry go round of that.
And the second you start watching it down, it's got to be lessened.
Anyway, we opened up with it was the holidays.
Did you have a good holiday?
That's fantastic.
Nice standard Christmas.
No Hanukkah.
No Hanukkah.
No Kwanzaa.
Do any of that?
No Kwanzaa.
I don't do any of that.
What even is Kwanzaa?
I think it's like an African holiday.
Funny enough, I got my sister a happy Kwanza card this year.
Nice.
Just for the fuck of it.
So you know how to cut like Jewish people?
That's not even a big holiday for them.
Like we act like it's their Christmas.
But.
Oh, I see.
They don't even know that.
Dude, what's their big one?
Passover?
Passover's bigger.
I think there's another one too.
I don't remember.
Yeah, I only know I dated a girl who's stepped out with Jewish.
And well, I guess we went to our mutual friends, Passover's too.
But I had done it when I was younger.
And I thought Hanukkah was the only Jewish holiday.
I know, that's how we're raised.
Yeah.
In school they tell us to believe.
Hanukkah is the only one.
You lied to us.
What the fuck?
Yeah.
But cool.
So a little Christmas.
Well, a little news action went to Mexico for the first time ever.
Yeah, that's crazy.
So how much time do you spend there?
Overall four days.
Nice dude.
Is it pretty so my high school Spanish kickback in?
Oh, you're out there.
I felt pretty good about myself.
Getting spicy.
Yeah.
Some coma say Yama or cease in your.
Now that's spicy.
Ha ha.
Anything where you at like a resort or was it like
in a, in a, we were in there.
Well, we were at a hotel.
But I mean, it's not like a, it's in London.
It's not like a beachy resort type of place.
It's got you.
Desert.
It's like a massive sprawling city.
OK.
Here's something I learned.
It's, yeah.
There the population in Mexico City is roughly the same
as the population of Australia.
What's the population of Australia?
It's like 29 million or something.
Wow.
So Mexico City is fucking crazy.
It's like, it's like two and a half New York's.
Yeah, I think it's like LA is like around 20 mil, I think.
Is LA better than New York?
New York is eight mil, I think.
I think, or maybe it's the entire.
Sting California.
Anyway, yeah, yeah.
It's fucking massive.
Yeah.
So that was kind of cool.
So any like big cock culture shock stuff when you went there?
Had some bomb enchiladas.
That was the culture shock.
Holy fuck.
I couldn't handle it.
I'm going to go recover my hotel room from that.
It's so intense.
No donkey shows.
No, no donkey shows.
No, not real.
I mean, it was there for a wedding.
So we did like wedding stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
Hang out with a bunch of people you know.
Now, what are you like doing?
Yeah, I didn't get super deep into the culture at all.
Yeah, that's fair.
I mean, so is it just like desert-y hot?
I guess the summer, too.
It's high up.
I don't even know it was going to be altitude.
It's like 2000 feet higher than Denver.
Holy shit.
Yeah, it's all flat.
Now, it's like kind of in that there's vaguely
mountains in the distance, but it's not like huge mountains
like Denver, but you're kind of just in a elevated mountainous
area.
It's all hazy.
It's kind of polluted.
OK.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Remember that one day in the Midwest when everyone was like,
stay inside because we're like the wildfires or what?
Yeah, you can see it from it.
It's like always like that there.
That's fucked.
Yeah, that kind of sucks.
Yeah.
Oh, I guess LA's kind of like that.
Maybe not quite that bad, but it was borderline acceptable
air quality for forever.
Yeah, do you remember when that was all going down most
recently, the wildfire stuff?
And then there was like this period where we were like orange
outside.
Yeah.
What?
Did we see that here?
I didn't see that here.
I think it was in New York where we're at God.
New York, you could see like the blaze.
But whatever it was.
So that happened, but why would you see like we're talking
about like downtown in like New York City?
Yeah.
And it was like red.
Yeah.
Why is terrifying?
What is that?
That can't be seen.
The fire blaze.
You're not.
It's got to be fired.
Why would it be red there?
It's massive blaze about to engulf the city.
What are you talking about?
It's in a different country.
I don't know.
I remember seeing that.
I mean, like you're like, oh, it's red.
I'm like, why is it red outside?
That doesn't make any sense.
You're the only one freaking out.
Yeah.
It's camping right.
It was like someone has like a giant like red flood light
shiny entire state.
There's not a fire for hundreds of times.
I saw the picture.
It was insane.
Yeah.
What is that?
It could is a pollution that the sky turns red.
Well, there's some conspiracy theories out there.
How like, OK.
Let's hear that.
There was some chemical something that happened.
And they were covering it up like, oh, this is wildfire stuff.
And that's why there was days at a time
where there was just this red smoke.
Which, yeah, which again, I, being an idiot,
I have no explanation for red smoke.
You really got to pick and choose the things you just
believe face-failing.
What's like, yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, you could die.
That'd be interesting to dive into.
Yeah.
There's probably some stupid answer out there.
But also like, there was tons of smoke here.
It wasn't red.
Like to the point where you can't see in front of you.
So it was like, how far, how much closer to Canada
are we, or how much closer is New York
to Canada than we are?
Are we like similar lines?
Or are we way lower?
New York's closer.
They're closer?
Yeah.
Fuck out.
No.
Anyway, I just thought it was weird when it was all happening.
I'll follow up.
Is there red smoke?
Yeah, it's looking like wildfire New York specific.
Why was there red smoke?
Because I remember there was a lot of like,
some people didn't care, but then some people were like,
what, why is it red?
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Where everywhere else, it's not red.
Smoke isn't red.
Yeah, typically not.
That's a very simple question.
Yeah.
And like, you know, colored smoke typically
is some chemical thing.
Yeah.
So who fucking knows?
But at the same time, it's not like everyone was dying
in New York.
So they're like, we spilled ancient orange
over the whole city.
Just tell everyone it's fire in your coat.
That was the conspiracy.
So like, some chemical incident happened
and they covered it up by like, be like, oh, wildfires.
Crazy.
Another perk of the Midwest.
Didn't have that.
Yeah, we just got the standard smoke.
Yeah.
Which was also having never experienced that.
That was a terrible.
Because like, even in my apartment, you would still,
it still smells like smoke.
Yeah, it still smells like smoke.
Like everywhere's like smoke.
It's like, oh, this is fucking terrible.
And then you can like, just feel it as you're breathing it.
So yeah, not great.
But anyway.
I'll do the pet peeve.
Yeah, we were going to start with of when people say
they are proud of you.
All right.
It's hilarious that face value to say that's a peeve.
Oh, man.
Yes, I understand where you're coming from that.
But I think, and I think most people who are saying it
are saying it in a nice way.
Like they don't intend to be.
OK, let me explain why is the pet peeve?
When someone says that to me, who is not like years ahead
of me in terms of career or life or like accomplishment,
and goes, I'm proud of you.
It feels like a pet like talking down ish.
When they're not in a plethora.
And not even talking down, but they're not in a place to go.
You don't have the credentials to be proud of me.
Exactly.
And having pr...
I heard someone else explain even deeper
that having pride in someone else's work
is that it's because you got them there.
There's a portion of you that believes that,
well, in the sentence itself, that's what you're saying.
I'm proud of you.
It's indicative of, I have pride of you.
So it's like, portion of where you are is because...
I don't know if I fully buy that one.
All right.
I buy it.
It certainly yes in many cases, that is true.
But also, I can be proud of my big brother.
Just that I know this person and love him.
And they did something cool.
It's like, I'm proud of you, bro.
For sure.
And again, I think most people are just...
It's totally fine.
But it's when people say they're proud of me when...
Like, if I...
This has happened recently?
Not recently, but it's definitely happened
where I do something where I get a new job
or I accomplish some athletic thing.
Like, I'm doing stuff in the gym that I'm proud of.
I'm proud of.
And someone's never lifted in their life
or doesn't work out.
They're like, oh, proud of you, man, for doing that.
I don't know why it hits me differently.
I'm like, why don't you say you're happy for me?
Like, oh, you did a great job with that.
I'm happy for you.
Thank you.
It's not your fault you feel.
I'm so happy.
I felt great.
But yeah.
And I would also, I don't think I would ever...
I don't know, because when I...
The weird thing for me is when I say to someone
I feel weird.
And maybe that's where a lot of this comes from.
If I go to you and I go, man, I'm proud of you.
It makes me feel weird.
It feels like I shouldn't be saying it to you.
Yeah.
I feel like it...
I feel like there's an implied...
Maybe not even like the...
It's because of me that you did this.
It's like, I didn't think you were gonna do this.
I gotta think you had it in you.
I'm proud of you.
Yeah, I think that there's some of that definitely in there.
I think there's a layer two of like...
It's almost like a fall from Grace had to happen first.
For me to be like, oh, I'm proud of you, man.
You've come so far.
If you...
If you're thinking of like an addict overcoming a ditch.
Yeah.
I see the only thing I can think of.
That's where we're like your son.
Yeah, which is so substantially less than the sense of like,
you have made them.
I know that's...
You literally made the person.
Yes. And for them to like grow into something beautiful,
you're like, oh, I'm so proud of you.
Because, and, you know, I'm gonna bring back to the definition
that we agree to disagree on.
But that is like, part of you is totally part of that.
That person becoming a grown adult, doing whatever.
It's like, it's the most direct I'm proud of you
because my pride is of this person.
What about like Big Brother to Little Brother?
Yeah, that's fine too.
But also you could go both ways where...
But that's less of...
I guess the Big Brother's like the role model
so they might feel some responsibility.
But also I could see it if Big Brother
ends up being a heroin addict all of his life
and the other brother becomes like,
a CEO of a company and the Big Brother
whose drug goes, man, I'm so proud of you.
It feels off.
It feels like there should be like a...
Yeah, I don't know.
But then also if the other brother...
If the drug addict brother becomes like,
you know, he gets over the addiction,
the other brother's like, I'm proud of you.
It still feels...
I can't share it, but... Oh, even that one.
Because then it's like...
Is the brother thinks he's better than him?
Oh, okay.
I can see as we're talking through this,
how like this is probably...
I should say this again.
It has surprised me how many more people feel how I do.
Because I would have thought most people go,
they don't even think about it.
No one cares.
It's a nice thing to say.
But I brought some friend circles and they're like,
no, yeah, that's terrible.
Most of them are weird.
It's usually split.
At least in the two situations I think of,
it's been pretty split.
I think I'm with you.
Family ties are weird.
I don't think that if you're related.
Even if it's older, younger, older, whatever.
Yeah.
But if it's not someone you're related to,
I think I'm with you.
It feels weird.
Unless you are literally like their teacher.
Like a mentor or something like that.
Yeah.
It's just a strain.
Yeah.
And go on and on.
It feels strange for me to say to a friend.
Again, not saying anyone's wrong for doing it
and if someone says it to me,
I'm not thinking twice about it.
But it's like feels weird when I say it.
If I go, oh, I'm proud of you, man, for doing that.
It feels like I have no right to be prideful
about what you did.
I don't know.
What if I achieved something and you said
you were proud of me?
I wouldn't.
How would I?
I just told you I wouldn't.
I'd go, oh, I'm so happy for you, man.
That's great.
Yeah, that is.
But then I've heard the flip though that people,
but then I'd be like, why aren't you proud of me?
A dad.
I've heard people say that I'm happy for you.
Feels like just kind of dismissive.
Like, oh, I'm happy for you that you did that.
It did.
When you said it just now, it did.
This podcast is all about learning that.
How do you say it?
There's different people.
Everyone's different.
What do you want to achieve in life?
I don't know.
Have a family.
Successful in business.
Okay.
What if you had your first kid and I call you up
and like, I'm proud of you?
That would be so weird.
Especially for that.
I have no kids.
Yeah, I'd be very confused.
I mostly think you're joking.
If you call me, I'm probably going to go,
I'm so proud of you.
Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
I'm totally going to do that.
All right, I'm going to do it to you.
The first, when we have our first child,
that's something we're going to,
we're going to create a child.
When us and our separate families create a child,
you have to call the other one and say,
I'm proud.
How about this one?
Can you, you're married to a woman she brings a kid
to term gives birth?
Okay.
Do you say I'm proud of you to your wife?
Oh God, oh no.
No.
That sounds way worse than you saying to me.
It's like, I don't know.
I've never thought through it.
That feels like, again, this could be an entirely
methane.
If I'm saying that to my wife, it's like,
it's like almost like I know what they went,
like I have experienced what they've experienced.
Like, oh, I'm so proud of you.
Like, it feels like I have,
grand, there is some sharing of that experience,
but like to say it to someone,
it feels like I'm implying that I have so much credit.
Like, I'm giving myself credit for whatever they went through.
Yeah.
That's what it feels like to me.
At least the best way I can just try.
I'm trying to think of a way,
because how do you acknowledge
like that they overcame some hardship
and did a good job?
More words.
With more detail.
But I feel like the phrase I'm proud of you
has to be in there somewhere.
It's like, what would you say?
To my wife who gave birth.
Like, you really want to acknowledge how hard it was for them,
how good of a job they did and they got through it.
Right, say all those things.
I'd probably be like, I'm so...
I'm so proud of you.
No, I know.
I was gonna say it.
I was gonna say it.
Full disclosure, I was gonna say I was, I'm proud of you.
I think that that closes the case.
Oh, okay.
But when I think about it, when I do it,
yeah, I don't know.
I feel like I just flipped it all on the side by doing that.
There's definitely different context.
Yeah.
But that might, that feels like a knee jerk thing.
Were you put me in the position?
Well, yeah, that's it,
because I was trying to think of something
and I can't think of a way to not say that phrase.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a good point,
because I'm definitely not saying I'm happy for you
to my wife who just didn't say it.
Yeah, I'm happy for her.
Or you could say I'm happy for us
as if you were an equal part.
Well, that's, yeah, that's fucking bad.
Yeah, I don't know, man.
But I also don't know if I'd be like...
I don't know if I'd be talking about the situation like that.
Like, I'm proud of you.
I just be like,
I don't, if my first child's my baby,
I can't, this is unbelievable.
It's like, I don't know.
It just doesn't feel like a moment where I'm saying,
I'm so proud of you.
I'm so happy you did this.
Yeah, I'm more like, I don't say that.
I'm happy you did this.
I'm happy you did this.
I'm happy you did this.
Yeah.
No, no.
We'll see when it happens.
Yeah.
I'll call you until you...
I'll tell you for sure that I'm proud of you.
Okay, I mean, that's a deal though,
when, when either of us have a child,
one has to call the other.
I'm down with doing that.
Hell yeah.
We'll make a blood pack later.
No, I gotta tell you to kid him.
I'm proud of them too.
What the fuck?
That's even more fucked up.
Tell me, my kid, you're proud of him.
I'm gonna mentor your child.
That's fucked up, dog.
No.
No, dude, he'll have some cool uncles.
That's for sure.
I don't know what it's gonna be.
All right.
Do do do.
Oh, man.
So, do you ever use Amazon?
So Amazon Prime, because they...
Amazon bought whole foods long time ago,
you can get groceries delivered through whole foods
because you're an Amazon member.
He...
So...
I've never done that.
Okay.
So, I've been doing that for quite some time now,
living the city.
Well, up until recently, I had to park blocks away
so walking groceries across city blocks
is just not ideal.
So I get stuff delivered.
So, all of your information is attached to, like, delivered, right?
Email, phone, a whole list of things, credit card number,
and every once in a while,
they will send you emails about recalled food items,
because it happens, like, ecoli and whatever or something.
And I've been buying baby carrots for six years
from this place.
And there's a big ecoli outbreak for baby carrots
from the specific farm.
I think a couple of farms.
And they sent me an email for every time I've ever bought baby carrots.
Oh, shit.
I got...
For the past six years?
It had to be some error,
because it was like day after day, 80 to 100 emails.
They just went nuclear on that.
Literally, they're like, we need to legally cover our ass
by just being like, the baby carrots are bad.
Don't eat the baby carrots.
So for literal days, just like...
I granted Gmail groups them into one after a certain amount of time.
But it was just like...
It was just baby carrots for a week.
I've just...
They're bad, man.
Don't eat.
And I, you know,
I ate a bunch of baby carrots.
I didn't get sick.
I ate a ton of carrots while that was happening.
Yeah, dude.
Like, I ate so many carrots, not so many,
but I eat them every day with a salad.
So it's like...
If there was a coli...
Past.
Fucking house did, dude.
Yeah, dude, I guess.
I always wonder with those things, how like...
Do people get food poisoning?
Like, what is like an eat coli infection?
Is it just like a standard food poisoning sick
where you're like vomiting?
I imagine.
Yeah, people.
Because I think I've ever gotten...
I've never gotten like from a grocery store food poisoning.
I've gotten like fast food food poisoning.
That's the only thing I've ever had.
Yeah, yeah.
But never like, I went and bought something from a grocery store
and I got violently sick at home.
Yeah.
But...
Anyway, it was nuts.
The baby carrots emails.
They probably like burnt down some servers from just sending...
Dude, yeah.
If I'm one of these people, imagine just the millions that are eating baby carrots.
Like, that's got to be up there with like, top most common items.
That like, baby carrots.
To staple.
Yeah, to.
Most people are eating that shit.
All right.
Can you not serve mentally handicapped people booze?
What's your initial?
And this is a complex conversation, I think.
I want a new thought just hits your head then.
I've never thought about that in my life.
Actually, hold on one second.
Actually, you know what?
I think I probably make it.
Okay, so first thing.
I think it depends on the level.
How do you gauge that?
Well, there's ways.
I mean, if someone comes to...
As a bartender, just visual inspection?
Well, yeah, there's some visual, maybe some conversational.
And I'm gonna say, if they are in the bar, they can drink.
Okay, at the point being they made a passive bouncer.
They made a passive bouncer or like, they clearly don't need a helper.
Or a songboard.
You know that.
You can have someone who escapes a mental home and just walks into a bar.
Then they deserve it.
Oh, I see.
So you're the bartender.
This is the reenactment we're doing.
And you see...
Do your order.
What?
You're mentally handicapped.
Oh, man.
You're gonna do that to me.
Mahay.
That's it.
Mahay.
What did you say, sir?
Mahay.
Yeah, I'm not serving you.
Oh, big man was so sure.
So I think you should be...
Well, you have to be able to say an order.
That's another rule.
I mean, we'll make the rules as we go here.
Okay, that's fair.
So there's got to be a level though where you go.
Why?
You just said no in the reenactment.
But I'm saying like, there's got to be a level where you go.
Yeah, I'm not giving this person out.
I mean, because you know as a bartender that booze is an accelerant for whatever the person is.
Typically.
Yeah.
I feel like that's just a, you know, if you've drank enough in your life, you know that.
Whatever that person is, I'm an expert.
That's for sure.
We're a vets.
But if you see someone walk in who has like...
I mean, a schizophrenic would be a great example of someone I would see and they're like talking to themselves.
Same things.
I would not give that person out call.
But then there's like...
If you have someone with Down syndrome come in who physically looks...
Like you could argue this schizophrenic looks way more...
They don't look mentally ill necessarily.
You can tell you see them do some crazy stuff.
Yeah.
With a person with Down syndrome, there's a genetic defect so you can see like all this person has Down syndrome.
But they can be a fully functioning human adult.
And there's also degrees of that too.
There's people Down syndrome who are like literally they need to live an award because they're so mentally ill.
So it's like what tests are you giving the person or what...
I mean, what you said is...
The character you just reenacted.
Yeah.
I don't think that person's in a bar without some supervisor.
Unless they literally escape.
Well, you can make the argument this...
I was just a deaf person who knows nothing how language sounds.
You better sign to me.
Oh, you know sign language that, huh?
No.
But...
I don't know.
Yeah, I feel like you have to be able to order and be there by yourself.
But if you're there with a helper, like they're gonna cover that for...
They're gonna be like, yeah, he's fine to drink.
Which is...
But that's even...
I mean, yeah, that makes me...
Maybe you have a really cool helper who's breaking the rules.
Which also freaks me out.
Which is also like...
Yeah.
I think of the movie...
Oh my god, what's the movie with Johnny Knoxville?
The Ringer.
Where he's like...
Never seen a...
Really.
Yeah.
Top five movies of comedy.
You need to see.
Wow.
It is one of the best movies out there.
And PG-13.
Oh, I guess dodgeball.
Is it an actual movie or is it like, jackass?
It's a movie.
Where Johnny Knoxville, he literally...
His dad is a degenerate gambler.
And Johnny Knoxville pretends to be...
In the Special Olympics.
So his dad can bet on him and win a ton of money.
My god.
And Johnny Knoxville.
And it's him and a bunch of actually like meant...
Like, down to...
Like, people who are...
Would be in the Special Olympics.
On the mental yel side.
This is literally a self-park episode.
It is one of the funniest movies.
And the people like the Down syndrome guy.
That's one of the like the co lead you could say.
Hilarious.
It's so good, man.
And yeah.
So, I don't know why I got that tangent.
But...
Fuck, what are we talking about though?
How does that pull back to the...
I don't know.
Fuck.
I have some way to tie it back and I lost it.
Did you have a helper?
Uh...
Yes and no, I guess.
Because like he's...
There's in this...
They have something like guiding them around stuff.
But they like...
Oh, this is...
I mean, I've said my criteria.
But what's your criteria?
Uh...
For serving someone.
I don't know, man.
Because if someone comes in and...
I mean, if it gets a prank...
If it's like obviously a crazy person.
Like you see homeless people who you know are obviously crazy.
They're like taught as shouting and saying random things.
I'm not gonna get that person to say that.
But then like the Down syndrome person...
I might...
It's gonna sound terrible.
I might err on the side of no.
Because my brain goes...
They have more likelihood to be mentally handicapped
to the point where they couldn't handle booze.
So...
I don't want to be the guy who causes a catastrophe.
Because the chance of causing catastrophes
wave higher than...
I don't know, a person who doesn't have a mental illness.
But...
Probably.
Yeah.
But then, you know, I'm saying this outside of the context of being the bartender.
Like, being in the situation and seeing like a guy come up and be like,
Can I have a beer?
I probably just get in the beer.
Again, aside from being like severely mentally ill.
But then it's like, dude, is there a liability with that stuff?
Like, is there...
Like, is there any laws around like if they're of age?
I don't know.
This is crazy.
Because there's got to be something.
If someone's like...
Like, is there any laws about serving?
If someone can't nauseate, can I have a beer?
It'd be very hard to not serve them.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
And then, but also on the flip side of all this.
And you say no, and they're like, why?
Oh.
Oh!
Damn.
Yeah, that...
Yeah.
I'm gonna have to put it next to him like, just give him a beer, man.
Oh, dude, you're giving me stress just thinking about that situation.
Oh, dude, that's terrible.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, that's...
I don't know, man.
Then he'd give him a beer and just have a great conversation with him.
Or they end up taking off all their clothes and letting the plays on fire.
You know?
You know.
I gotta imagine that situation's very rare.
Yeah.
But it has to have happened before.
Or someone walks in that like, you don't know if they're...
I imagine crazy homeless people walking a bar all the time.
True.
True.
And you gotta imagine too that like, for every mentally handy cat person who probably shouldn't be drinking...
There's like hundreds of thousands of normal people who shouldn't be drinking,
because they're just a problem when they drink.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, you know, I'm not trying to fixate on mentally handy cat people.
I'm just trying to get more of the like, if that comes...
If this situation happens, because the normal person who becomes a problem,
you're still gonna serve them until they become a problem.
Right.
Like, there's no being like, no, I'm just not gonna give it to you.
Yeah, camouflage.
Yeah.
Help.
Okay, this is...
I'm just on-educated on the subject, but are there people with Down syndrome who can just go about their lives and like...
Listen to this.
Pretty much just do what normal people do.
I was on educate in this for... I thought that all people with Down syndrome needed someone taking care of them.
I thought that was just... I thought that was just it.
It's a genetic defect.
They all have an IQ that's so much lower that it's like, they're not...
Come to learn, because Spain elected...
Oh, yeah, I forgot.
They elected a political official like a senator and their parliament,
who has Down syndrome to work in public as a senator.
And then I was like, initially I was like, why would anyone do that?
Thinking that all people with Down syndrome have a severely lower capacity for mental process or cognitive process, I guess.
Come to learn that there's plenty of Down syndrome people out there that have average or above average IQs across the board,
and that it can be just a physical deformity and a lower life expectancy.
So they can totally out...
There's a good amount that are just totally normal.
Wow.
Yeah, so yeah, you learn something new every day, right?
Yeah, I remember learning that one being like, holy shit.
I just totally thought they all could have...
I know, when you said that lady out elected, I was like, that's not...
My first reaction was like, why would...
I think we talked about before of like...
People get taken advantage of in that environment that have like law degrees and stuff.
Imagine putting that in someone who has a mental illness like that.
And like, that's terrible.
Yeah.
But it seems like that's not necessarily the case, I guess.
But anyway, so I guess what we know will...
I guess we won't know until it happens, but I think we...
Until we try to serve someone?
And until we become bartenders and have someone who's like mentally handy come up to us.
I still think if they're in the bar...
They can drink.
You just said that sometimes homeless crazy people walk into bars.
Not them.
Anyone with Down syndrome in my bar?
Port them a drink.
I'm down with Down syndrome.
That's what you're saying.
Yeah.
Okay.
Italians getting castrated for singing.
So like, you've heard of...
You know what a unit is, right?
Yeah, Lord Varus.
What about what?
Is that word for it?
Game of Thrones.
Oh, Lord Varus.
Yeah, Lord Varus.
Gotcha.
The spider.
That is a word for it.
I thought he's like someone telling me we're like, Lord Varus.
I don't know that it's man.
I didn't know that like a lot of the reason that happened Italy at least
were to have choir boys.
Like, they were just like, oh, you can sing well, we're going to cut your nuts off.
And like, that was just...
So your voice stays like that?
Yeah.
That happened, that's Michael Jackson, right?
What?
I don't think they cut his nuts off, but they like chemically castrated him.
So his voice would like stay like that.
Really?
I'll fact you.
That sounds like a red smoke conspiracy theory in New York.
Because, I mean, don't you wrong.
Joe Jackson was one of the most abuse.
Boy, is that beautiful?
Yeah.
And the dad was like...
It's no way you have nuts.
There's no way!
There's no way you have nuts.
Voice that high.
I mean, he was like six years old singing.
But then, yeah, to your point, he got older as voice is still like.
Stayed up there.
Yeah.
Could be.
But also like, I just don't...
Because like that...
I guess I don't know the history well enough, but like that family, the Jackson's...
Joe Jackson...
Like, it doesn't seem like a family that was like...
Had the wherewithal to chemically castrate their child.
Like, it was like a standard family.
Like an American family.
Who like...
Was like, oh, and then Joe Jackson just abused his family into being able to just perform.
But thinking...
I don't know.
It seems too strategic outside of like...
I don't know.
I feel like nowadays, it's more things where we have like these engineered pop stars.
Like, these big producing labels like get a hold of kids when they're five.
And there's like a lot of...
But maybe that happened with them too.
Just, I don't know.
What are you looking up?
Looking up if he was chemically castrated.
What's coming up?
There's a lot of articles.
Damn.
I mean, it could be possible.
But also, how do you fact check that?
Other than a doctor going, yes, I used to prescribe like, estrogen to the child.
As they were growing up.
Now, y'all, I'll do a follow-up on that.
Okay.
We got a lot of follow-ups.
Oh, man.
This requires me to say someone's full name on here, but I think it's worth it.
Okay.
And I think I might have brought this up even because it was so crazy.
In high school, I went to school with a girl named Nancy Hyman.
Okay.
Like, Hyman, the vagina part.
Yeah.
You know, live with that name and doing her own.
Super hot.
But she, you know, it's just like, I went to school there from like kindergarten all the way through Hyman.
And I went to high school.
Like, so just, you know, everyone makes a...
I used to it real fast.
Yeah.
Like, people were making jokes about it.
I go on Facebook not too long ago.
You know, they have the recommended friends every once in a while.
I like scroll down and has that part.
I see.
She got married.
Oh, she keep the Heim in the middle.
No, no, no.
It gets even better.
Okay.
She gets married and she changes her last name entirely.
Okay.
Her last name is now Mick Gusson.
I kid you not.
It went from Nancy Hyman.
Oh, Hyman was better.
No, dude.
Nancy Hyman to Nancy Mick Gusson.
You couldn't write something better.
Mick Gusson is beautiful.
What a name.
It's like the evolution of Hyman.
Like, it's like she leveled up.
It's like Charmander to Charizard.
It's, I'm so sorry, Nancy Mick Gusson.
But your name's going to be on this podcast because, dude, I couldn't believe it.
That's like, again, it's something that I thought was...
Also a dude with the name Mick Gusson.
Hilarious.
Also living around the arrow of Mick Loveon and just being a Mick Gusson.
I mean, that's unbelievable.
I know, dude.
So I thought it was worth sharing.
I apologize, Nancy, but...
Man.
I would take that name, too.
Yeah, dude.
Mick Gusson.
Yeah.
Yeah, also, too, you got to imagine, like, if you're last...
You're like, well, I just give this other one a shot.
Well, it's well doubled down.
True.
You're gonna get Mick Gusson now.
We're a Mick Gusson family.
Fuck with me.
It's fair point.
Own it.
Do any straight guys watch Lesbian porn?
What?
So...
You're me out.
When we are young men.
Like...
I'm gonna say yes.
Well, hold on.
There's a lot here.
We're young men, or technically not men yet.
We're teenagers.
And like, we just start kind of experiencing porn.
And it's not near to the level that I like it is today, right?
It's like, I don't know.
Pornhub is just coming around.
I know you're a little bit younger than me, but it's like...
It wasn't like, I have a phone, and I have porn all over my phone.
Yeah.
And like, girls gone wild was a big thing.
Yeah.
And it was like, girls making out maybe some boobs and stuff like that.
And it was purely girl...
Maybe some boobs.
Maybe some boobs.
But it was purely girl on girl stuff.
And there was a long time where like...
That was the thing.
When I was a young teenager, I was like, oh dude, girl on girl.
I was after that era, I think.
But that was a big...
So you never had like a...
That was the hot thing.
Like that...
Girl on girl?
Yeah, it was like, girl...
Essentially Lesbian...
Yes, always hot.
Okay, but hear me out.
I don't disagree.
As I've gotten older, I only have ever gone and watched a Lesbian porn video.
I only have ever watched a girl on girl porn in my entire life.
Other than the time when I was a teenager, there was like, girls gone wild and stuff like that.
Yeah.
I must ask you, have you...
I have gone...
No, I don't look it up.
Yeah, it's like not...
I feel like when I was younger, I did.
Yeah.
And it's just an...
Because I thought that stuff was made for guys.
It's like two girls.
It's like it's made for young kids.
Which is fucked up.
Because it's like a...
It's like a...
For middle schoolers.
Yeah.
It's like a fancy version of the real thing of like...
Like you don't know the practicalness.
The whales...
The whales...
The Europeans are watching that.
True.
There's definitely Lesbians watching that.
But also, I feel like...
I feel like not many though.
That's when I have no idea.
Are Lesbians watching heterosexual or they're watching homosexual porn?
Do gays, dudes watch it?
Just for the art?
What?
They're just so like...
It's beautiful.
It's so elevated and called body.
I feel like they bullshit a lot about that.
Yeah.
Like...
And you know what?
I can validate that.
Because I have some gay friends who are like...
They think of pussy's gross.
It's like the chance of them...
And you know, that's anecdotal, obviously.
It's the gay people I know.
But like...
I've heard them be like...
Oh, God.
Like that's to them like...
Us watching gay guys have sex.
If you're heterosexual with man.
Yeah.
That'd be wild.
To watch gay sex.
You're...
What if I was like...
I see what I watched it all the time.
And I had a justification for it.
Like an artsy...
Like an...
Yeah, like...
It's the human form.
It's masculine.
Look how jacked these guys are.
Puttin' a lot of work for it.
I don't think I've ever...
Well, I mean...
I've never suck out gay porn in general.
But there's been the accidental like...
Meetspin.com.
We were growing up...
To say if you've watched it.
I mean...
It's one of those things...
Growing up, there was enough...
Gotcha.
Gay porn things.
Like meetspin.com...
Like someone would send you something...
And be like like...
Literally, just gay sex.
Yeah, and you'd be like...
No, fuck.
So I've seen it.
But it is funny when you're going through the categories.
I'm like...
PornHub looking for something.
You'll just see like...
The guy gay was just like...
Just...
Dude, it's getting pwned.
I'm like...
Oh, what the fuck?
It's really fine line.
Yeah, yeah.
But...
I'd be interested to know if any adult men have continued the...
To women...
Just do stuff.
It just feels not as like...
I don't know.
Because I can't put myself in it.
Yeah, it's probably...
There's probably a lot of that to it.
Like it's just...
I'm like more of an observer.
I'm not really...
Living the thing.
But...
Who knows?
That was just interesting.
Yeah, I mean, if you saw it in real life, you wouldn't just stand on the sidelines and keep watching.
You just want to dive in there.
It's funny when you imagine like...
You've come across so many of these situations.
You're just stumbling upon it.
He's like, oh my god, more lesbians.
Just hooking up.
And also like the reality of a lot of lesbians is just never like too really hot.
I mean, don't even know what's right.
Hot lesbians out there.
But like...
All the lesbians I know are just like...
Either just average women are like just bush ladies that like...
They're like cosplaying men essentially.
And nothing wrong with it.
I'm just saying it's not like...
It's not whatever that porn is.
It's like two absolute tens just going at it.
Okay.
Anyway, that was an important one to cover.
I'll tell you about that one.
Everything has a payment plan.
Where did that?
Oh, the powder movie.
Have you heard of this movie powder?
It's from like...
I think it's like early 2000s or late 90s.
And it's just like...
This old bino guy who's like...
Lightning hits him or something.
Doing a very bad job of explaining this.
But he's like...
I don't even know why I put this on here.
But it's just...
I saw it once when I was a kid and freaked me out.
It's not like a scary movie.
It's just a guy who's a full L bino.
And something has to do with like...
He got struck by lightning when he's young.
And it's like...
So lightning's attracted to him.
And the whole movie is just like...
It's similar to like a forest gump or radio where like...
There's locals in this ignorant town.
Well, forgot about that.
You heard the rest of it.
It's a great movie.
But like the locals of the town,
like ignorant locals,
the guy that's like different.
So like that lightning powers the whole time.
I mean, you couldn't use...
It was just like...
Something like that.
But he's so...
The reason the movie is called powders,
because they give him the name powder.
He's so white.
And it's such a weird movie.
I want to know if you saw it,
because I was like...
I just remembered vaguely watching it when I was...
And I've never seen ever...
Like did this actually happen?
It feels like one of those.
Like what the fuck?
But I looked it up.
It's definitely...
So...
Do you have any more men in L bino?
Matt one?
Yeah.
No.
I mean, you do.
I've seen L bino squirrel.
That's about it.
That's...
It's pretty crazy.
Yeah.
Definitely pretty nuts.
Didn't have lightning powers.
A tie version of what?
Oh.
Okay, we need to talk about...
How democracy is flawed or...
Or...
Three minutes?
Or a funny ad I saw that said...
You know what's really fun?
Making a website with wicks.
Which is...
Talk about that one.
Okay.
What'd you like about it?
I mean, it's funny how ads will like go to these...
These places where anyone's idea of fun
would be making a website with wicks.
And they go, you know what's fun?
Making a website with wicks.
And they turn around.
They have this video of them like...
Like...
The guy having the best time.
Yeah, like a montage of you making a website with wicks like...
Yeah.
It's like...
I feel like anyone who would have fun making a website
is like a developer who would want to just build it from scratch.
Yeah, but like fun.
I feel like there's a...
Do you think...
Yeah.
There's like a purpose as like...
Fun feels like something that happens.
It happens out of like...
And don't be wrong, there's intentional ways to like produce fun.
But to be like...
Fun is spontaneous.
It should be, I think.
Making a website isn't spontaneous.
No, it's just not spontaneous at all.
But yeah, it's just one of those things that...
It feels so brain dead.
Because you're like...
Is there someone out there going?
Oh yeah.
That's...
Who is this reaching?
Yeah, who's listening to go like...
Oh yeah, websites are...
Really fun man.
Yeah.
Yeah, no.
Well, good one and done.
You see that on a billboard?
No, it was a YouTube ad.
I mean, wicks, bullshit, but...
It is.
Alright, well, good place to end.
I'm gonna cap it there.
Until...
Next...
Good night.