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Yo, yo, yo.
Another fake problem spot.
I guess I was forgot the name right there.
I'm not even a lie.
I was like, what was this thing called?
It's been a bit.
We're back though.
And we're more serious than a hard tech.
What?
I don't know.
That felt right.
Wasn't great.
That joke sucks.
I think it was implied when no one laughed.
Really had to add that on.
Oh, god.
Fuck, let's do it.
Let's get right into it.
All right, let's just fucking get right into it.
Is it incest if you get invited to a three sum with two half siblings?
Wait.
All right, what's the situation?
Are the two half siblings?
Two half siblings.
Full siblings?
Listen to what you just said.
What you say make any sense.
No, no, two of your half siblings.
No, no, no, no.
You're just a guy.
Oh, you're not related.
Yeah, I mean, that'd be...
Oh, you know what?
I apologize for attacking you.
That's an even crazier situation.
Let's start with the easier one.
All right, all right.
You're just a guy or a girl.
You're probably a guy.
Let's be real.
Yeah, I don't see a lot of girls being casually asked to have a three sum.
I feel like it's a lot more invasive.
Like two guys double-seeming a girl.
I've never been in a scenario where I'm even close to a three sum.
So I don't know.
Yeah.
Well, I've been in one, but not in a...
Like, it wasn't like a casual, like, I'm at a bar and people are like,
Hey, you want to just go do this?
It was like, I'd known the girls for a while and we were just...
It was just...
We were all hanging out partying.
You've been involved in one?
Yeah.
Damn.
I mean, dude, that the party in drug world has a lot to offer.
Oh, wow.
But I mean, it isn't as great as it seems.
Because if you're any one of like a...
A jealous nature?
Uh, no, not...
I mean, I was the one guy and there was two of them.
Right, right.
But like, it was more like, if you...
There's a lot of awkward moments where like, your attention is on one...
It's hard to do both at the same time.
It seems stressful.
It is, dude.
It was more stressful than that.
It's like multiple people pinging you at work.
Like, what do I...
The initial goin was nice when you're all like kind of like,
Touchy feeling, getting into it, but then when it gets to the sex part,
you can't split that between...
It's hard to like, do the fucking part and then also attend to someone on top of that.
So it's like just kind of sitting there?
Yeah, like kissing you or like trying to ride your face,
but it's all like, there's so much going on.
Dude, so it...
I mean, don't do a whole episode on this, dude.
This is fascinating.
I mean, it's not what most guys think.
I, for my experience, my one time.
But it's...
I left it being like, cool, done, but that's not what I'm looking...
Like, I'm not like, yes, I need another one.
Yeah, I need more.
No, I was like, that was more...
It was definitely more...
It's a cool resume piece.
Yeah, when you're in high school.
Like, what the fuck?
Tell it to now, I'll be like, yeah, how do you...
I had to threesome when I was like, 20.
I still think it's cool.
And that's the guy I know.
I think you're cooler now.
Alright, dude, tight.
Made up for that joke you opened with.
Yes.
Respect.
Alright, let's get back to the original question.
You get offered a threesome with two half siblings.
Are you participating in Incessed?
You're helping Incessed.
What's the word?
You're like a confidant.
No.
I know you're an accomplice.
An accomplice to Incessed.
Yeah, it's weird because they're half.
So it's less incest, but it's still on some level.
Yeah, when is incest stopped?
Like...
I think when there's no blood relation.
Second cousin, third cousin, fourth cousin.
Well, second, you're not related to them.
Second cousin is literally...
You're totally related to second cousin.
Isn't it?
Oh, you were...
But I'm pretty sure...
It's not defined.
I thought it was literally...
No, it is.
It is the kid.
So I guess you're totally related to that.
Well, that would for sure be blood related.
But that's also a misconception.
That's not what it is.
No, what is it?
No.
I couldn't explain it.
You're so...
You thought what it is?
I promise you it's not.
Because your cousin's kid is another level down.
The second cousin is on your level.
Your generational level.
So it goes like...
It goes up further and then down.
Or something like that.
Huh.
Yeah, this entire time.
I think you can do a follow-up on that.
But I'm pretty sure either way you're...
The one that always confused me was the removed.
Whenever they'd be like, oh, it's my second cousin removed.
I looked up one's.
That one's...
And it made it even more confusing.
But I thought...
I think that's the same thing.
Like your cousin once removed is your second cousin.
I don't think so.
No.
I look this up.
There's this giant chart.
It's so confusing.
Oh, God.
But when I looked up the chart, I swear to God it was...
When your cousin has a child, that is your second cousin.
It's not your niece or nephew that's only brother sister.
Like if your brother sister has a kid.
Sure, yeah.
So like that's what I'm saying is that...
Regardless.
But that's blood-related still.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
Which I thought for...
Yeah, I don't know.
So third cousin maybe not?
I have no idea.
Yeah, I don't know.
But I think...
I don't think you're doing incess.
No, I mean, yeah.
Is it incest a crime?
Like actually a crime?
Yeah, I believe so.
Yeah.
I think it's...
So would you get charged with anything if you were involved?
I feel like it's a really hard thing to like...
In court, there's...
How would you prove it?
Yeah.
You would need to have like DNA evidence and someone have to come forth of like...
It would have to be like...
Like with rate cases, the person has to come forward really quick.
You would have to be a third person and a three-some and report it.
Exactly.
In that case, are you safe?
Or do you also get charged?
I don't think you'd get charged because you're not like...
You're not committing incest.
They are.
You...
Yeah.
You're not...
No, right.
You're not committing incest.
But they...
I would think if they have blood relation and they're fucking...
If they're like...
I mean, how much can two women fuck each other realistically?
But it's...
You know.
Yeah, wait.
Can two women be charged of incest?
I don't...
It's the crime as sexual intercourse, right?
Dude, you just opened up a whole Pandora's box now.
Can another woman rape a woman?
Yes.
No toys.
Hands.
Oh, there you go.
That's fair.
I guess you could.
Damn, you're good.
This guy's got every fucking angle.
So yeah, I guess.
And then...
So you're a situation of...
If you're all half siblings, that's...
That's for sure incest.
Yeah, wouldn't I initially...
Oh, yeah, I thought it was...
You thought it was too...
You thought it was too...
Too half siblings, yeah.
Yeah, that's absolutely incest.
Yeah.
I wonder what the punishment is for incest?
I don't know.
Should do it live.
Yeah, if I can fucking check it out.
We got time.
We can edit around it.
All right.
I'll just...
I'll sit here and drink this music.
Start monologuing.
All right.
I'll drink this beautiful liquid death that I know...
In the future.
In the future.
Oh, my...
I mean, I was already saying something.
You just kind of caught me off.
Come on, man.
I was going to talk about this beautiful liquid death that eventually we will have a sponsorship
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I am.
So it is...
It is if not the top sponsorship of all podcasts.
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Did it come up?
Incest is often charged as a felony as crimes like rape and statutory rape that are related
to it.
This means that a defendant who has convicted may face years in prison.
If it is charged as a misdemeanor, the defendant may spend several months in jail.
So I guess...
How does it go?
It's weird that they're saying rape is related because I feel like that's very different.
Well, it's just a category of sexual crimes.
Yeah.
I mean, they're not saying it is rape.
Dude, yeah.
I mean, there's...
I've read of some incest stories and how they play...
There's so many weird places on Reddit where people like...
And you never know if they're making up the story or not.
But of people like growing up in terrible situations and they just found like...
What's the word for it?
Safety and their sibling that ended up in like mixing romantic relationship because they're...
You know, they're in like this terrible, poverish, abusive place.
And the one story I'm thinking of was this guy saying he essentially grew up in this terrible
situation in the South, abusive father and mother, father sexually abusing them and then
that turned into like...
Then finally, he saved two in each other, ended up having like a sexual relationship
with each other.
And the whole thing was...
The guy is now about to get married.
Does he tell his wife about his...
Like...
That passed because it's such a...
Like he's...
He recognizes awful even to therapy like it happened and it's...
It happened, but...
What do you do?
Do you tell your wife?
The person you're about to marry?
Oh, you gotta.
Do you?
No.
But...
I'm gonna do something that could definitely end it.
That's very...
All right, to be fair, I was reading incest laws.
Will you start that story?
No, I'm gonna start.
But wait, so what was...
What we can add up?
But what was the scenario?
All right.
Guy grows up in a terrible situation.
Abuse everywhere, extreme poverty.
The only...
Has parents or...
Parents...
Yeah, everything, but he has a sister.
And him and his sister...
The only safe place to our each other, essentially in this world.
There's just both kind of going through it.
And eventually that relationship with a sister develops into a sexual relationship.
And call it a result of sexual abuse from their parents or whatever,
like the abuse ended up in them finding safety,
but then also ended up having a romantic relationship.
Romantic relationship ends when they're like late teenagers or early teenagers
somewhere around there, but it went on for multiple years, right?
He's now an adult.
He's about to get married.
He's never told anyone about this.
Does he tell his about to be a wife?
How do you know about this?
Read it.
Which I was...
Anonymous, both.
The preface of this is like, it could be fake,
but it also...
This is one of those threads like, what's a secret you've told nobody?
Yeah, that's the thing.
So, but to the degree that he told...
The story was huge, and it's like to make all this up,
it could for sure be fake.
But I guarantee that is a situation that has happened.
Yeah, that's the truth.
And it usually happens from like, you know,
not having the right guidance, abuse, all that shit.
So, the question is, do you tell your about to be a wife,
or do you just bury that down forever,
and you just...
You marry your wife, or marry the person you're going to be your wife?
I'm very much like, things that are buried like that
are just going to kill you in the long run.
Like, it's going to wear you down.
Hold that in.
Yeah.
But also like, you get that out.
I guess, I don't know.
Do you want to date someone or marry someone
who would leave you after hearing that knowledge?
I think anyone has the right to leave someone
after hearing that knowledge.
Think so?
Yeah.
Hypothetical.
You're about to marry someone,
and the day before you're wedding,
they go, listen, I got to tell you something.
He used to fuck my brother.
That'd be a little late.
Was that the post?
It was...
They're engaged.
They're about to get married.
Oh, shit.
Yes.
So say, three months, six months, I don't know.
You guys are engaged.
They go, listen, before we do this, I have to tell you this.
I fucked my brother for six years growing up.
Do you think that's something you'd be like,
you know what?
We're going to get through this.
Maybe this doesn't matter, but like,
are they still in touch with their sibling?
Probably, right?
I don't know.
Like, they're going to go to Thanksgiving,
and...
Yeah, that's another layer.
I could...
But before we get...
That'd make it tougher.
Before the details.
For face value.
Say, say, say, say, you'd never have to see the sister again
or brother or wherever the fuck.
But you just know that your wife to be used to fuck her brother
for multiple years.
That'd be wild.
It's a tough pill swallow for anyone.
There's probably people who would totally be like,
you know what?
You were a child.
That was abuse.
It's fine.
It's in the past.
But it's like, it's a hard thing to...
It's tough, man.
He also has to...
Or, do they say it doesn't matter?
But they also have to justify it.
I was abused.
That's why.
Sure.
Yeah.
I mean, in his case, it seemed like it was not like a...
Oh, yeah, we just started fucking each other.
It was like a...
Yeah.
But that's also something you can't verify.
For sure.
Yeah.
There is doubt.
Yeah.
Like, there's no...
No one was charged with anything.
No.
There's no written documentation.
There's like no one...
What if his life was fine?
He's like, it was so tough.
It's just fucking a existence.
That's what I'd be worried about.
Yeah.
I would...
Call me a pessimist.
I think most people would probably back out.
Really?
Yeah.
That's...
That's a tough one.
I feel like if you're gonna say that, that's got to come out before you're engaged to the person.
Like, when it's getting serious.
Yeah, but when's the right...
Yeah.
When's the right time to say you've been fucking a existence?
I would argue it needs to be serious for you to say that.
Right.
So, serious, not engaged yet.
Okay.
That would be...
If I were in that, that would be my level of like, is this gonna happen?
Can she accept this?
Yeah, I don't think I'd propose to someone if I had that in and I was thinking about telling her.
Yeah, that'd be crazy.
Yeah, that's...
It's a little nuts.
I mean, I say that having never been an answer to your relationship.
I mean, obviously we can't truly...
Like, say what we do.
I could totally also see...
I'm just gonna bury this for the rest of my life.
Well, it's like, dude, you think about it like this too.
It's almost like that, what happened to you, is robbing you of like having a good life potentially.
Yeah.
If you are like, I have to tell people this, you're letting that thing...
Dude, I'll say it ruined everything.
I think about...
The fact that...
Say this is real, the fact he made a post about it anonymously, it is killing him inside.
Yeah, oh my...
What's it gonna get better?
No, it's not gonna get better.
He's gotta say it.
That's gonna eat away at him forever.
Yeah, but also like, you could have so much taken away from you by telling people that.
It's in this weird area of extreme thing that like,
people could just...
Which you can make the argument, people that would disown you for that information you present are not the people you want in your life.
But a lot of people would not...
I don't know, man.
This sounds very shitty.
I mean, obviously if someone was like, I was severely sexually abused, can I fuck my brother or sister?
I would try to come from an understanding standpoint.
But if it's like my significant other, it would be hard to be like, you know what?
We'll get through it.
Let's get married.
It's certainly tough.
Yeah, dude.
Certainly.
It's extremely tough.
Certainly a real problem.
I'm glad you've identified it.
Thank God.
Really cleared the air.
I mean, I don't think we're gonna have a definitive answer.
I just wonder.
I think I can say definitively, I would have to say it at some point if I were in that.
If you were the guy.
I would have to say it.
Yeah.
I'm trying.
Gilt doesn't go away.
I don't think.
For something that big.
But that is like a...
What are you guilty for?
Like say, say you're this guy.
You're not.
The guy isn't actually guilty, but he probably feels like immense guilt and shame.
Hence why he's holding it in.
And I don't think that'll just go away.
If he never tells anyone about it, he should go to therapy first.
That's what he said he has.
He's like worked on this stuff, but it is just a thing in his past that like...
Has he told anyone but his therapist?
I don't remember.
I think it's just therapist.
Okay.
So like he's in a place now where that part is done.
But he's...
This is maybe a better way to spin it.
He's in a place of saying, does my significant other...
Should they know that this is this happened?
I'm over it.
It's done.
It happened.
And it is what it is.
But should I be telling...
So he told them.
He's like, I'm in a good place right now.
Yeah, it is in the past.
It's done.
And he's worked with a therapist.
He's like, does my significant other deserve to know that I fucked my sibling for years?
Sorry, I should have given you that.
Yeah, context.
That's different.
It is a little different.
But I feel like just the fact that he's thinking about it that much.
There's still some level.
I don't think he can just...
Yeah.
I hear you.
Maybe he's over it.
I hear you though, because he...
To your point, he is feeling guilty enough of not telling his significant other.
Where he's thinking about...
Should they know this?
Yeah, maybe that's where the guilt is.
He has a secret that to this person he's claiming I'm sharing my life with.
I'm sharing everything with.
He's keeping something.
And the impact it could have had if someone finds out second hand and then they know that this person married me,
even though I fucked my sibling kind of thing.
But that's...
I mean, this is just like a more extreme level of, do you have to share all your relationship
history with your significant other?
I mean, he has one.
It's extremely extreme.
It's...
My patrillation ship, my...
It's a past relationship.
You're not right.
Does he have to disclose that?
I don't know.
I mean...
It is incest though.
You don't know the answer to this.
But like, how's the sibling doing?
Have they been in a situation?
Do they talk about it?
I don't know.
I mean, that's...
I would be...
Oh, God.
I mean, imagine you were that guy.
Do I feel like that is so weird to still be close with your sibling?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I think...
I'm trying to remember the story, I wish I had it saved.
But I think that no one from his family, he no longer associates with any...
Like, that's not in their life.
The sister, the family, that's out.
He's separated from that.
It is just a thing that I...
I can't imagine having the relationship I have now with my siblings.
You could never.
Yeah.
You can't...
What you're thinking of is so far away of the possibility of this man's life.
You can't just be cool with each other.
Even if you like, kiss to your sister.
You...
You do.
You just...
It would never be normal.
Never.
Dude, it's so...
It's so funny.
I don't think there's certain things I don't think people can come back from in life.
I don't...
I think that's one of them.
That being one of them?
I think you fucking family.
You can't come back.
It's over.
You can't be friends.
It can't be fun living.
I'm sorry.
You can't make up.
You can't get over it.
It's just...
It happens to get over you.
I mean, it's like you can't be friends with your exes.
No.
It's not like that.
It's totally not like that.
I mean, definitely be friends with your exes.
Then it's totally okay.
Yeah, maybe.
There's definitely some that doesn't work out.
But you can for sure...
Come on.
If we're being serious on this comedy podcast, you can definitely be...
Are you not friends with any of your exes?
No, I am.
Okay.
All right.
So, just playing Devils Advocate on yourself.
I mean...
I'm trying to think now.
I don't know.
I can be civil with with the exes.
I'm going to say, at least for me, that's what it is.
I'm not like...
But if I got to a point of being like friends again, that would either escalate back and to
be and back together or it...
It just...
I don't know.
I feel like I couldn't be close with...
Close in a friendly relationship with an ex.
Yeah.
And dude, I feel exactly the same way.
But I think it's just a maturity thing.
Because people pull it...
Dude, people pull it off to a degree where I'm like, holy shit, we're like...
Yeah.
People like...
Literally, they're continuing to be friends with them.
They're friends married and everyone's like...
Super friendly.
It's just like a level of respect and maturity that eventually people are like...
It was a thing that passed.
It was great.
Life has changed.
But we still value who like each other are.
Like it's a person.
It's like you're a sign fell down a lane.
In some...
Exactly.
That's an example.
Very friendly.
So, not like you fucking your sibling...
I think that one's...
I can't go to Thanksgiving.
Yeah.
Which I think I put this at the end of the list but I think it's worth talking about of
things you can't fix.
Has anyone ever reversed pedophilia?
Like has anyone who ever got to the point of being like, I want to fuck kids.
Are we pivoting?
Hold on.
Oh, sorry.
I find my question that maybe sparked this.
Because when does incest stop?
I think I found an answer.
All right.
When does it stop?
Apparently there are degrees of relationships.
So, I don't...
And it's based on the amount of DNA shared.
Oh, no.
You're about to say identical twins.
Identical twins is 100%.
Oh.
Parent offspring, 50%.
Full sibling, 50%.
Three-quarter sibling.
Or sibling cousins.
I don't know what a three-quarter sibling is.
Three-quarter sibling.
What does that work?
Um...
But that's 37.25%.
Yeah, no idea.
I'm going to Google that.
Uh...
Grandparent Granchial, 25.
Okay.
Anyway, most laws regarding prohibited degree of kinship concern relations of R equals 25%
are higher.
So...
What was the...
A half-sibling is 25%.
Oh, shit.
So that would barely fall into that range.
Yeah.
Still...
Yeah.
And Uncle Nafiunis, that's 25%.
Okay.
So, great-grandparent, great-grandchild, only 12 and a half.
Oh, God.
That's disgusting to think about.
Disgusting illegal.
Things for clarified.
First cousins, 12 and a half percent.
Well, that's like the same as a great-grandparent in a great-grandparent.
Yeah.
Great-grandchild, damn.
Triple-second cousins, what on earth is that?
Trit...
Dude, what are these numbers?
Half-first cousins.
First cousins once removed.
Dude, what is...
Double-second cousins, what is this?
Triple-second cousins share more DNA than double-second cousins.
All right.
All right.
We're going to follow up on all this.
Yeah, it's going to say a lot of it's just starting to make less and less sense.
But...
But...
The first one you say...
So half-siblings, that's...
It's a felony.
Okay.
Identical twins fucking...
I didn't even have any thought about that.
That is crazy.
What are the chances of their offspring being mutated?
Like you're fucking yourself.
That's nuts.
Wait, wait.
That's actually...
It's impossible.
What?
Wait.
Hold on.
This might be an idiot moment.
Can you be identical twins with an opposite gender?
Uh...
No, I don't think so.
That's paternal.
I think...
Or maternal?
Yeah, because identical is when the fertilized egg splits, right?
Yeah.
So then it's...
Yeah, that'd have to be the same.
So that it's like, I guess they couldn't fuck.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
Okay.
Wait, but why did it say that first?
Maybe we're wrong.
Maybe just to illustrate the point.
This is also Wikipedia.
Huh.
That's fucking...
Yeah.
I don't even know me.
I mean, yeah.
Degree of relationship is zero for identical twins.
I don't know if I'm ready.
Um...
So yeah, first degree is parent offspring or full sibling.
Gotcha.
Yeah, that's fucking...
There's a world where that had...
Like, there's a lot of people that have been affected by that.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah.
But here's...
The point I was gonna make though...
Not about the pedophilia thing.
This guy in the story that we're talking about...
It's possible that you've met people that...
Have had this happen to them.
Just holding it down?
Yeah, dude.
Because they're...
Like, they're never gonna tell anyone.
I would argue most people probably never tell anyone about that.
If it happens to them.
I think Dom would tell us.
Well, I've got to edit that name out, but yeah.
I mean, I don't think Dom...
Oh, fuck you, man.
I don't think he would be himself if he was like...
Rate.
He'd be a different person.
He doesn't be...
He'd be really shy.
Probably.
Or a rapist.
Sexual abuse typically ends up in the abuser...
Abuser, which is terrible.
Rape to people, rape people.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
That'd be...
Again, we've probably met people who've been sexually abused for sure.
Abused for sure.
Insessed?
Yeah, I don't know.
We've met a lot of people, I feel like.
By 30 years of age, you've met a lot.
I've met tons of people.
And some people that I'm like...
I can tell you've had him.
It wouldn't surprise me if they'd fucked their cousin.
I mean, cousin fucking, I feel like it's a very common thing.
In the South, yeah.
Yeah.
I would just say rural areas.
It's probably way more common and way more accepted.
And I think, like, is that why there's just less options?
Yeah, for sure.
It's like small town stuff.
Wow.
But also, this is kind of fucked up.
It's not encouraging incest, but if you fuck your cousin, you have like a two to three percent
more chance of having like a genetic mutation.
So it's not a...
Oh, it's so you're good.
Yeah, essentially you could fuck your first cousin.
And second cousin, it's like almost nothing from fucking your second cousin.
Trust me, I know.
I've done some research.
Yeah, I just re-up...
I've also heard that.
Yeah, because I thought it was like way higher.
I thought it was like everyone's saying...
Yeah, everyone's saying...
You're gonna have a mutated fucking child.
But it's just...
It's more like if you fuck your parent or your sibling, then it's probably gonna happen.
You're flipping it coin at that point.
To wrap this around, I mean, we won't stand for too much longer.
Patifiles.
Has anyone been cured?
I don't even know how we measure that.
Because you can't be inside someone's head, but...
Any of the people that get that far, is there any undoing them?
Well, cured as in...
Like they don't want to do it anymore.
Yeah, they're not attracted to children anymore.
Has that ever happened?
Or is it like, is it again, is it a place where you can't come back once you've gone that far?
You're just there.
I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, you're getting into like...
Is it...
Are you born with that?
Is it a choice?
I think it's an orientation for sure.
Oh, no, no.
Not a choice.
It's an orientation.
I think it's an orientation.
Okay, kind of thing.
Damn, that's a fucking tough draw.
Dude, yeah, if you're born that way.
I just...
How does one learn it is the real question?
Say it is a learned behavior.
How does someone learn it?
I don't know.
I mean, weren't you saying a while ago, like these people who run pedophile rings, like Epstein, those people,
it starts with like porn addiction and then they keep going further.
Yeah, but you think they were?
They have like a predisposition?
Yes, exactly.
I think it's just like with an addict.
You and I can drink alcohol, but some people, they'll drain.
They literally cannot stop.
And eventually it devolves to them drinking a handle of vodka a day, as opposed to us being able to have like five drinks and be like,
I'm not gonna drink for a month.
We're like the porn addict, or it's probably not every, because case of porn addicts, because priest touched children all the time.
And they're not looking at porn.
That you know of.
Yeah, but yeah.
And one could argue that it's situational for them, or they're just...
That's a whole other thing, like, are they?
But why a priest touched children?
Okay, if it was like the situation bred that, why don't they just fuck other adults?
That's a priest?
Yeah, because they can't for their faith or whatever.
But they can't fuck kids for their faith.
That's also...
Okay, I see what you said.
But I feel like they do some mental gymnastics where that feels like a loophole.
Like if they have a relationship with adults, they think that's wrong.
I think they think both is wrong.
But I don't...
That's where in my head I go, how was the fucking kid one less wrong?
Dive.
Dude, I would imagine if a priest came to their other priest and said, I had sex with an adult or whatever.
It'd probably be less crazy than if they went, yo, I'd touch Billy last week.
Oh, for sure.
That's why I'm saying we're like, how does it end up in pedophilia and not just them fucking another?
Yeah, how is that not the first valve that breaks?
Yeah, it's never that.
You never hear of this priest was fucking slinging dick all around town, and then he started fucking kids.
It's always straight to the kids.
Yeah.
I've heard theories on this.
I think the one I truly think is probably is that it's all a power thing,
because their kids are young.
You can manipulate them.
You can essentially make them into something, whatever you want.
As a person of an adult, they see your bullshit coming a mile away.
If I get the fuck away from me.
So I think that has to play into it.
I've just like proximity.
We're here.
It's easy to just groom this person, and then they just do it.
So isn't there a common like chicken or egg debate where it's like to...
Does the situation breed it or do they go there because they are that?
Do they become priests because they are?
It has to be they breed it.
The chance that...
I think it's started that way, but I feel like it's gotten a reputation now to the point where
if you're a pedophile you go and become a priest.
True, but I would think that there's a lot less natural pedophiles than there are people wanting to be priests.
Overall, the percentage of pedophiles that...
Actually, that's a good question actually.
Yeah, it's like...
I think that the situation probably breeds it more than there's like pedophiles going...
Ooh, I could be a priest.
It just seems like...
I don't know.
It seems like the numbers would be so small that we wouldn't have such a large organization being like the Catholic Church.
Yeah, I think I agree on that.
Yeah, it's...
I mean...
It is also crazy that we can...
Everyone just knows this about them.
I know.
And it just continues.
It's out there.
Yeah, and people are still Catholic.
And they just laugh it off.
They're like, no, yeah, that doesn't have...
The shores are just killing me.
And riding up pretty high.
Every time it's like just staying in place.
It feels like a priest.
Yeah, I don't know.
Like, and the law doesn't apply to them.
That's the craziest part too.
We find these things out and the priests don't get arrested.
They don't.
Yeah, they just get moved.
And the police...
If you ever want to get rid of the conspiracy,
the Catholic Church has control beyond what feels like anyone.
Where they can truly subvert the law.
Be like, no, no, no, no.
And subvert the law over a heinous crime.
Repeated...
Yeah, the worst one.
Yeah, the worst one.
Millions of times.
I'd say in the past 100 years alone.
Yeah.
It's, dude, talk about darkness, man, like this.
Yeah.
That is, has to be the worst side of humanity.
Catholic priest?
Yeah.
I'd say it's in the ends of like along the lines of war and rape and pillaging.
It's almost worse because you're like...
You just mean like pedophilia up in general?
Yeah.
I mean, with the Catholics doing it at a magnitude that's so organized level.
Yeah.
Organized pedophiles in sight.
Yeah, it's probably the darkest.
One of the darkest things that's ever happened.
Yeah.
It's a fucking free will, baby.
Okay.
Be that, or...
Give me an easy one.
That dead child horse.
Girls with male names on dating apps.
Pass.
Yeah.
That's the...
Yeah.
I'd be waiting.
Do you feel that way?
I was kind of joking.
I mean, I don't even know what kind of name I'm trying to...
Fuck, I don't know.
There was...
I saw one and it was literally like a guy's name.
And I was like...
Call me, shall I just don't know if I could...
If like your girl's name is Dave.
She's a woman.
But her name is crazy.
Dave is crazy.
I mean, that's an absolute...
That's an absolute...
Yeah, I just thought...
What's the weirdest female name?
Dude, I'm trying to remember.
Uh...
Dude, there was...
This is one.
Short for Carlie.
Literally, how their name is Carlie.
I have a female friend that we all call Carl.
There you go.
I fuck Carlie up.
But it's kind of like a joke though.
Like she doesn't...
Sure, sure.
She doesn't actually go by...
It's like all of your close friends call her Carl.
Okay.
In a situation where this girl's like...
My name is Carlie.
Like, hey, I'm Carlie.
Like, whoa.
Oh.
Getting hot and heavy with Carl.
Is she hot though?
It's pretty cute.
Yeah, that I don't care.
Yeah, it's fair.
Yeah.
It's all talking till you're in front of a kid.
You know, like, uh...
It's a guy I can get behind that.
Yeah, I can get behind Carl.
I met a girl named Logan once.
That's a tough one too.
That is a...
Have you ever heard of her strong male name?
No.
This is like one of the manliest names.
Not short for anything.
Just Logan.
Not Logan for a...
Can't even think of a name that would be short for.
Yeah, no.
That's a tough one.
Again, if I was in front of a beautiful woman,
they're like, my name's David.
I'd probably be like, I'm gonna get fun.
But...
But I don't...
David's might be the most male name.
Yeah, like, there's no...
I mean, Logan.
Logan.
Yeah, Logan.
I mean, there's no Logan here around.
I was shocked.
Yeah.
Where'd you meet this person?
Uh, at a job.
Internship.
A while ago.
Dude, it's weird too,
because in this day and age,
my first instinct is to go,
oh, maybe they're like,
trans.
If someone told me their name's Logan,
I go, oh, maybe they're just...
Hot trans.
And it's weird, like,
after hanging out with her for a while,
like, every day for a summer.
It's like, I started thinking of it as a female name.
Right.
Yeah.
I feel like that just will happen.
Yeah.
Trying to think it...
I've definitely had met female...
I'm about to say female women.
But...
Yeah.
For the context of the trans stuff.
For a female woman,
I've met them that they have a guy's name you forget.
Yeah.
A little bit into the relationship.
I grew up with...
Not to...
It grew up sounds weird.
I went to school with two female twins.
Their names were Carson and Dylan.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Those are dude names.
Are those even female names?
No.
I've never heard of that outside of...
No.
I've only met male, Dylan's,
and Carson, I've never met a Carson in general.
It kind of...
It's a guy.
It's a guy.
It's a guy.
It's a guy.
Weirdly worked, though.
Yeah.
I mean, again,
you meet the person in their hot.
You're like...
Or they're just...
They're obviously a woman.
Yeah.
And eventually,
it's just all the names it fades.
So...
New fucking nose.
But it's a good point to bring up.
I have to say,
when I see the names,
though, I do swipe left.
They're for...rightness.
How about a...
How about a roof?
You've heard of that one?
I mean, that's a woman's name, though.
Is it?
Yeah.
It's just a...
It's like up there with like a...
Edgar and like...
It's like old-timey names.
Root.
Yeah, it is old-timey.
Is that more of a girl's name than a guy's name?
I've never seen a...
I've seen more girl...
I've never seen a guy named that.
I've seen tons of girls.
But like, elderly people.
I guess, yeah.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Yeah.
Yes.
Hmm.
But I've never seen a guy named Ruth.
Ruth Aphah.
I'm just thinking of Babe Ruth.
That's probably why I think that.
Who's...
That's his last name?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Do-do-do-do-do-do.
Company chatbots using chat GPT premium.
I feel like I talked about this one, but there's a snapshot of a guy who is...
You know, everyone's using chat GPT for like chatbots everywhere.
Like, all these companies go on their website.
The back ends now becoming just all chat GPT.
And so the guy's on Ford's website, the car company.
And he's like, acid about Python code.
And he's just like putting his Python code into a Ford chatbot.
And it's just giving him back revisions.
And he's just on Ford's website.
Because it's just chat GPT in the background.
Why is he using Ford's website?
He just thought it was hilarious.
Okay.
He just...
Him knowing that a lot of these are chat GPT.
I see.
I just went there.
He's like, give me a function that like reverses a binary tree.
And he's on Ford's website.
And it just does it for you.
That is kind of fun.
Pretty great.
Short, quick.
Pet Peeve.
Oh, there's many.
Questions with obvious answer.
Like...
Stupid questions.
Yeah, I mean, that's an easy one.
I have the situation I'm thinking about.
That same guy was bitching about before at my work.
It's like...
It's almost insulting when someone...
It would take the person, you know, ten seconds total to answer the question.
I know they know that.
But instead, they ask you for you to solve.
To answer their own questions.
But then it then requires me to pull back from what I'm doing.
Focus to what they're doing and then give them an answer.
I think the question I had here was...
Oh, he was like...
Has the data been copied to both of these places?
And literally him querying...
Check both the places.
Literally, he would just have to query one table and see that the council line...
...got one table.
And instead, he went...
Did you copy this over?
Like, dude.
And I'm pretty sure he had done testing that like, validated that already.
I'm like, dude, you were so fucking head, man.
Do something.
Yeah, it's all...
It's your work remotely, too, right?
Yeah.
That makes it work.
Because in person, that's not as bad.
If you just like, threw that out there.
Like, if you were sitting right next to a person, be like, do you do this?
Yeah.
When you send a message, it's like, it's way worse.
Like a tap on the shoulder, be like, hey, give me attention.
My buddy who works totally in office, we were talking about this yesterday, he's just off-engineered.
And he's like, yeah, dude.
It's so much easier being the office for stuff.
But I'm like...
I've been in situations at work where...
Say someone messes up, and then you gotta go them and be like, hey, man, you mess this up.
And then they do it again and again.
And I feel less inclined.
I hate...
In person, going back to them and going, it's still not right.
And it's as opposed to messaging them.
It's so much easier to be like, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
You don't have to see there.
Yeah, I just shoot the message out, and it's just out there, and they know that they're wrong.
It's supposed to be going like, I try to be nice every time in person.
Yeah.
Or I'm like, listen.
I know it.
I know you like jackass.
Yeah.
And then like, you keep...
Obviously, you probably...
I would imagine both of us probably be continuing to be nice, even after the fourth time.
Like I'm not going to yell at someone at work.
But like inside, there's rings.
Oh, yeah, but then I'm just going to have to die of a heart attack at 40 because of that.
So it's like messaging, man.
It's the way.
Yeah.
Right.
Just cut out the human components.
Yeah, I want all robots.
By the time I'm like, 35, which is coming up.
Already there, dude.
You know, I'm already 35.
That's fine.
It's five years, dude.
I know.
It's coming up.
It's going to fly by.
Sorry.
We're making things up here from our last long video, which is like two doctors to go
and help their parents and children who have been from closest績 and繩 and other
Many times you're
dollars and they go it's like one last fuck you before he graduated that and the calls about
donating oh my god if I've ever wanted to burn down anything more it's been in those instances of
the transcripts on them asking for money knowing they have tens of not hundreds of millions of dollars
as as a university it's talk about fucking like blood boiling madness man dude yeah I forgot
until literally probably a month ago when I was like do you need your transcripts yeah yeah why
looking at master's programs just oh shit yeah there's some good options out there that are like
literally turning life around yeah finally finally getting uh what my worth is after a while so
people start accepting me now I just feel I don't know it's probably a more of an insecurity of mine
even though I'm already in the field and established of like it's exactly what I did I mean you already
had a computer oh no you had an engineer degree but that goes way farther in general too I don't
have an engineering degree at all I was like college degree yeah so I'm like in the back of my head
it's like oh man if I even if I have five years of experience as a software engineer they're going
to look and see not a bachelor's in computer science it's just be like no not this guy which is not
the reality at all considering uh no I've had every source tell me it doesn't work like that once
you've you've had experience yeah no it ends up giving you shit and unless you're entry level if you
so yeah it's an insecurity of mine that I'm I'm probably just gonna need a master degree it's an
expensive insecurity well dude some of the options I found and we don't talk about this too long but
a lot of these colleges now like reputable college are doing this like self-paced thing where you
pay a flat fee for a semester and you can take as many courses you want oh you're just gonna
cram a bunch yeah so like I for one college is looking at is like four four five hundred for an entire
six months of whatever you can finish like dude I can I could just fucking grind my ass off
until I get well working still oh yeah oh dude dude I got nothing better to do man I'm gonna
die dude yeah but I can't even handle I can handle one class at a time that's fair if I did more I
would probably be dead that's fair and I I'm also coming from a place of like I haven't been in
school forever so in my mind I'm like oh it'll be easy but it's probably just not so bad yeah
it's just misery it's gonna take ten or two to try it though yeah just spend a bunch of money
probably but it's cool I mean I like the idea it is a cool idea dude see if you could like get some
time off work uh no and now start up dude not not to be like dude listen that's start off
it would it's like there's if anyone left right now it would be an issue yeah so for me to be like
yeah I can't like it would just not work out but no no we'll see something I'm gonna try to get
a master's we'll see what happens nice um I think I feel like I told you about this but I had a
a ride with an Indian Uber driver I don't know why that context needed I guess it is needed
picks me up getting the car this guy has like five stars on Uber which is rare it's you know
sometimes most of the times it would get like a four eight to a four nine but to have five stars dude
you have to have given such good service isn't that like zero no one gave you under five I think so
I was I but he had like thousands upon thousands of rides so I was like this is insane getting the car
uh driving like how's your day of a boy and then he was so cool yeah I mean not no I mean yes yes
but he starts talking about this thing called cloud seating which I just heard about this okay
I've never heard about this he just starts I don't even know he just started talking like
literally I think was it was snowy out he's like no why it's like this and I was like oh
and he's like because cloud seating you know they fill the skies with these chemicals around certain
times to create snow for around like Christmas and holidays I do crazy and I was like this guy's
fucking crazy and he's just talking about the entire ride back to my apartment get out of the car
like thank you sir go inside look it up it's totally legitimate well it's a real thing yes
the science you can do it they do do it it's literally they have states that say it's either
legal or illegal to do it in certain places it's in America oh yeah dude literally there's laws
and Wisconsin and Illinois around these things and Wisconsin definitely doesn't what the fuck yeah
okay this is interesting I just saw something about it like in Saudi Arabia they were
talks of doing it just to like not have it be desert sun all the time yeah no they do it
here all the time that's insane these put things like barium in this guy that if it affects the
the water presence or whatever and they can create snow and they do it and it can also be used
for farming and stuff like that it's gonna say I feel like farming would be the primary reason but
it sounded like some QAnon crazy shit but I was like okay man when I saw it I was like this is
bullshit I thought it was yeah because essentially it is the government's controlling the weather
this literally what it is yeah pretty much yeah and when anyone says anything it sounds like that like
oh you're fucking insane and this guy was super intelligent I forgot how it works I remember it was
pretty cool I think it was something I know barium was one of the main chemicals but I thought
that was talk about judging a book by its cover and being like it's probably why as five
did you give them five stars after that I give everyone five stars unless I've never had
experienced that so I've deemed anything less than five stars they'd have to be like doing some
fucked up shit like fucking their sister brother or something in the car yeah while they're driving me
skin fucking roadhead fucking sibling head a little I got one I want to talk about all right you might
have seen this it was on right a few weeks ago okay basically this guy this guy got his works
sabotaged by an IT guy for like a decade did you or I right I know I threw it on the list okay I
think I totally saw some right it did you talk talk about a little more all right all the I
screenshot it I'm gonna read a little bit from it because it's crazy okay this guy I work medium-sized
firm between 2014-2024 I found myself constantly making mistakes while working calculations and
Microsoft Excel were wrong data inputs on spreadsheets were wrong booking the wrong days on his
vacation or yeah like realizing you booked the wrong days on vacation typos and documents that
changed words like counts to counts felt like he was going crazy so he would do things like
screenshot what he had calculated but then he found later his screenshots had disappeared the
next day so he would question if he took him in the first place dude what the fuck and if
February 24 their IT guy left them after facing a disciplinary this guy's from the UK so I guess
was disciplined okay they hired another guy within two weeks he approached him and showed him a
series of records their old IT guy had been accessing his system editing his work changing the
information that he had put on his his annual leave sheet and other things the guy had been sabotaging
his work for over a decade consequences consequences I faced are he was not allowed to work from home
all his colleagues because of unreliability resulted in all the transport costs was overlooked for
promotion had his professional life credibility damaged had to undergo treatment for ADHD and early
onset Alzheimer's other cognitive tests and was put on a performance improvement plan
all because of this IT guy because this guy fucking what does he say anything about a reason
no there's no reason this guy was just doing never got and the whole post is him asking if he has
like legal standing to go after this problem IT guy wished 100% he does super almost anything
in this nation that's more than enough reason I mean yeah he's he's sabotages reputation
and his mental health yeah dude what the fuck that's like the purest evil I mean there's
worse evil but like but like literally doing it for it's concentrated there's no reason no
just doing it to do it to make so watch someone for 10 years he made he made a person think they
were less of a person do pardon me feels like that's stories 10 years you wouldn't yeah how do you
not figure that out after a couple of weeks you're like this is weird yeah how would you
still have a job after 10 years I don't know yeah he was on a performance improvement plan but like
dude that happens way quicker than than take 10 you they'll let you go if you're fucking up
consistently he's he's like I've spoken to HR the issued an apology allowed me to work from
home again and removed his performance improvement plan dude that just like oh shit sorry that's insane
I just I wish god I want to interview that IT guy I'd love to know like that that'd be like
interviewing a serial killer on death row just like insanity yeah just saying he did it for the love
yeah yeah yeah that's I mean it could totally be fake you know I'm talking from a place of being
technology tech while I can even talk being good with technology so maybe you'd be your average
person maybe just wouldn't catch it I guess maybe like I feel like I would know I would know so
quick but think he got to the point where he was taking screenshots so he's inside he's like I
know I didn't but how is he not taking screenshots with like something other than his computer like
taking a picture something with his phone yeah like totally could done that yeah there's a lot of
holes here there's some holes but it's also it definitely could happen I feel like I feel like it
happened this guy was exactly a little bit thanks like 10 years just seems insane years so
long to be like well guess I'm just crazy you have to be it's shocking yeah I mean you're right I do
really what comes out of this I want to know what was in that IT guys yeah any any situation like
that where there's a guy doing it for the fuck of it what like because 10 years it could be funny
once he changes counts to const one time hilarious shows someone also probably dude if someone does
that once you could still get fired for that if you like sent a document so I just had
couldn't ridden all over yeah like dude you were totally get fired that's not like over it would
be crazy read red 100 times but he had to be subtle so he could keep it up for 10 years sure
huh you got to be so he fought with his vacation too did so you would think the person is literally
like you wouldn't keep them as an employee if that if it was truly that crazy they probably felt
bad maybe they thought he was like disabled or something and then didn't want to fire him for that
either way any example of someone like that tormenting for the the fuck of it it's crazy
like how it's pure torment I can't think of a way to defend this IT guy no I mean
I'm trying to unless there's like some context left out like the guy fucked his wife or you know
like something oh shit he probably did he probably fucked his wife how many people just do that to do
that I've never I've never cut I mean talking about meeting tons of people I've never come across
to even for revenge just ruining a guy's life people do that I mean I I buy way more into that
yeah then someone literally for no reason other than to just do it
because he thought it was funny I mean yeah I guess that's a reason so easily
for 10 years that's the thing 10 year even like if someone does some big act of revenge it's usually
like a one big thing right yeah usually don't sabotage someone for 10 years that's like torture
yeah emotions are so fleeting man it's that's what I'm saying like that it'd be hard to keep that up
that yeah most people just hatred let's just get over it so quickly but I don't know I mean there
I mean there's to your point there's serial killers out there I think he he has to be a psycho
right he's probably just that he's not killing people but he's just doing that
yeah that's just what it is which could argue as a healthy outlets if you're a serial killer
it's way better than killing people we can agree there but that guy sucks yeah fucking I mean
it it is funny though that's even funnier all right see what we got it was that that was okay
that's it on that one but but but but but at what point okay you're this is kind of a work
thing but it could be for anything does incest stop yeah we're back to incest that maybe it's just
the work thing you're in it you're in a meeting right say you're the first person there show up
with the meeting studio do you all about the meeting I mean this one's more like what do you do
than like a frustration you're the first guy or girl first person comes in you go hey how's it
going blah blah second person comes in hey how's it going third person comes in do you say hi
how far into every say there's 20 people in the meeting you say hi to every one like two two
and then you're done yeah in person or virtual virtual in person is different that feeling
hi everybody then because they're walking physically in a room yeah yeah if it's just me and
another person I say what's up yeah for another person comes in I usually say what's a third person
mute the mics for silent I fell into a trap either probably a couple weeks ago I'd say where I like
I got to the third person and I just end up saying hi to like 10 people and I was like at the end
just felt so weird you felt used yeah but I felt like the people who would like bend there in the
beginning saw me do this oh hey they're saying hi either yeah I'm just the guy like hey hey hey hey
hey just having this like small talk for you running the meeting no yeah wait we're the
fuck are you doing oh man I'm lonely just having conversations with people in
fuck this black now yeah just stuff like that I feel like there can be bits written just about
that stuff or they're like sign felty and almost where you're like that's very sign fel yeah you
when does it stop yeah incess what time are we at oh show we're 58 on here yeah do like one more
yeah give me one more uh steamy one I mean this one's pretty steamy man jailed raped and be
in after being falsely accused using AI facial recognition software that is steamy wait so what did
he do you got falsely so just you're just a guy okay please put me in the situation I understand
a better you're the guy please department departments head started putting in facial recognition
software used on like camera footage to be like oh this is our guy if they have you in the database
and you've been like a criminal before and so they literally just use that software it said it was
this guy it brought him in he would in the small the short amount of time this guy was also like
either he wasn't a criminal or his only crime was like it's very like a we charge or like something
sure in the time the short time he was in prison got beaten and raped holy shit yeah and so there's
a whole court case now because the software is wrong yeah that's our future man it's just I
feel like this is like the test argument it's like well like self-driving cars it's like you know
some will fuck up and kill people but sure over the overall it probably helps that sucks for that guy
though yeah the only thing I could say with the test the one is that like relative to non-automated
people driving cars they kill a lot less clearly way better way less people overall as
well yeah that's what's the benefit of this recognition kind of an isolation of like there's
nothing like this that we used to go oh it's this guy like we really make sure it's the guy before
we do it as opposed to them just trusting the software and going it has identified from this blurry
that you know cc tv footage yeah that it is this man I guess it would be like how many people does
that catch that wouldn't have been caught sure which I don't know I just know that they pulled all
these systems from a lot of police departments because they put them in but most of the reason is
that the software is extremely biased towards minorities because there's more minorities in the system
it just would default more just the training data exactly and it's like you that's how human
minds work too that's like yeah it's like literally profiling yeah I mean it's fucked up because
the statistics say more minorities aren't prison but that doesn't mean that more minorities are
gonna commit crimes should have been in prison yeah no yeah they probably will and then just
says so it'll probably get better like the software will but for now it's like
it's hard when the data is suggesting that it's mostly the software doesn't assign blame that doesn't
the software just recognize a face yeah so how how does it bias towards minorities I guess it's my
question that's a good question yeah I just know it is I just to the point where they took it all out
dang yeah I assumed it would be like you you know what this criminal looks like you see them walk
into an area with a camera software picks up and says this guy's here yeah which that I don't know
well so say you're black you're not a criminal but because the software leans towards mostly criminals
it could literally be like oh this is the guy so it just isn't more likely to mix up minorities
that's and yes we've got people yes so like it's way more likely to be like oh you're the criminal
because you're just black and the criminals black see that I would think would have the opposite
effect if it's trained on more black people data you'd think it would be better at distinguishing
the nuances that's a good point it should but it doesn't yeah just racist AI yeah I don't I'm also
so outside of the world of like image recognition software so I don't know how good it is when
they're like is it this person's face it must just be bad enough to wear at least for minority
groups it doesn't work well yeah but and also it's like the level footage you're working with
is it like it's not a straight on because they're like yours you're using video from like
stores to be like oh yeah so I don't think it's quite there yet there's also a thing with like
iPhone face recognition wasn't it like it didn't work well on Asians
pretty sure that happened I mean I could have I think they've addressed it but I remember
thank god someone's out there doing God's work yeah addressing these issues yeah it's a big problem
I wonder why just because maybe they didn't have enough Asian data like Asian faces to train with
yeah I mean I guess there's a period like any Asian could open any Asians phone it's pretty awesome
just kind of funny they are the skeleton key of racism all right well good no-tang down
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